TEW2020 Attribute Suggestion Thread

[St. Templar]

On 3/18/2023 at 9:39 AM, MisterSocko said:

Not trying to invalidate your idea as a whole but in Savage's case wasn't it just the Steamboat match because he wanted to be absolutely sure that they'd steal the show?

Savage reportedly liked it for all of his matches, but not everybody would go along with it.

DDP is another one who would have that attribute. I remember Bischoff or someone saying that when Savage and DDP had a feud, both guys were in Heaven because their desire to script everything meshed so well.

St.T

 

[Jaysin]

Notable Manager- Would apply to the likes of Heyman or Heenan. Basically the manager counterpart to the Notable Referee attribute. 

[MisterSocko]

Freak Attraction: this worker has a physical particularity that is sure to draw a crowd regardless of their Popularity, just out of sheer curiosity, as long as they're advertised in advance. When Pre-Booked on a card, attendance at the show will be significantly higher than normal for their first 3 appearances in a region over a period of 12 months, and up to 12 appearances over a period of 12 months regardless of the region. This attribute disappears after the 1970s, as "giants" become more common in wrestling and audiences have started to wise up to the fact that their matches will most likely suck anyway.

(the idea is to simulate something like the McGuire Twins, who didn't really have the appeal and star power of an Andre, were not likely to rise to perennial main event status anywhere, and were too limited in the ring to be featured regularly, but that promoters could hire to steal a house every now and then, as long as they were used sparingly. If all of that is already supposed to be simulated by the Star Quality skill, my bad)

Internet Novelty Act: this indie worker has come up with a character or move that has the internet buzzing after a video trended online. They get a temporary Popularity boost and, regardless of their Popularity and Skills, companies with a Product like Wrestling Nerd Nirvana, Memetic Wrestling, Absurdist Entertainment, Campy Fun, Skit Based, or Stoner Entertainment, are more likely to hire them at least for a short-term contract. This attribute only appears from the 2010s on, for workers who use a Gimmicky/Cartoonish or Comedy gimmick, is automatically temporary, and disappears after six months or 3 televised appearances, whichever comes first, as the novelty wears off fast.

(the modern quasi-equivalent of the Freak Attraction idea, in order to simulate something like Luigi Primo getting to appear on AEW before fading back into obscurity)

[MisterSocko]

You Know It's Fake, Right?: the polar opposite of Extremely Old School, this worker doesn't like to treat wrestling too seriously since every fan knows it's phony anyway, and so is more likely to sign deals with companies that focus on crazy stunts and comedy spots.

[MisterSocko]

Body Positive: this Flabby/Bulky/Obese worker likes their body just as it is, and will never agree to get into shape when asked.

[MisterSocko]

Competitive Bodybuilder: this worker will occasionally compete for bodybuilding championships  and will be away from wrestling for a short period of time. Will become Muscular or Ripped without being asked to.

[St. Templar]

On 4/27/2023 at 7:07 PM, MisterSocko said:

Body Positive: this Flabby/Bulky/Obese worker likes their body just as it is, and will never agree to get into shape when asked.

 

On 4/27/2023 at 5:09 PM, MisterSocko said:

You Know It's Fake, Right?: the polar opposite of Extremely Old School, this worker doesn't like to treat wrestling too seriously since every fan knows it's phony anyway, and so is more likely to sign deals with companies that focus on crazy stunts and comedy spots.

I love these suggestions, but the only critique I would offer would be that these two attributes probably shouldn't be available until fairly recently (maybe the Body Positive one could have gone back to the 1970's or so). These are attitudes/attributes we've only really seen (at least widespread) in the last fifteen or twenty years.

St.T

 

[MisterSocko]

For the 2nd one, definitely not until the mid-2000s or even 2010s you're right, but for the 1st one I don't know, the term "body positive" itself is recent but I think there's always been wrestlers who would have never agreed to try to go from obese or bulky to muscular or ripped if asked to.

[ColdBloodedSausageMaker]

Weekend Warrior: Worker will only sign one-night only deals. Designed to accommodate wrestling personnel who view wrestling as a hobby.

Notable Collegiate Athlete: Worker gets a small bonus to legitimate gimmick ratings and in-ring performance in "Western" companies located in either the Mid-South or the South East with a "Wrestling" focused products. Designed to accurately depict notable pro athletes who went on to wrestle professionally. Gimmick bonus would stack with "plays Legitimate well".

Notable Collegiate Wrestler: Workers gets a gimmick bonus when using Legitimate gimmicks and a small in-ring performance bonus in Technical Masterclass bouts in Western companies with "Wrestling" product basis. Gimmick bonus would stack with "plays Legitimate well".  Designed to represent athletes like Kurt Angle.

Notable Combat Sports Fighter: Workers get a gimmick bonus when using Legitimate gimmicks and a small in-ring performance bonus in Technical Masterclass bouts in Eastern companies with "Wrestling" product basis. Gimmick bonus would stack with "plays Legitimate well". Eastern equivalent to Notable Collegiate Wrestler. 

Active Professional Athlete: Lasts between 5 and 10 years. Worker is an active professional athlete and gets a small bonus to promos for USA based companies with an Entertainment basis. May go off to participate in sports for 3-6 months at a time. For pro athletes who participate in wrestling like Dennis Rodman. 

[LordofGustav]

Stunt Double: This worker will ocassionally accept jobs as a stunt double in movies and tv shows and will be away from wrestling for a lengthy period of time. Will keep being a stunt double until they become too old or physically broken to do so. Because of this job, it may harm it's abilities as a wrestler, depending on how dangerous is the stunt itself.

[The Blonde Bomber]

Hometown Hero: This worker performs especially well in their home region.

[LordofGustav]

Olympic Athlete: This worker will ocassionally accept to represent his/her country in the Summer Olympic Games or other regional multi-sport events and will be away from wrestling during the period that his sport will last. He/she may get minor to mayor popularity boosts depending on how well he performed and if he/she get a medal.

Former Olympic Athlete: This worker used to participate in the Summer Olympic Games or other regional multi-sport events, but has retired since then and he won't participate on such events in the future. Apropiate for people like The Iron Sheik, Kurt Angle, or Bad News Brown.

Edited May 15, 2023 by LordofGustav
Found out that Volkoff never participate in the Olympics at all

[MisterSocko]

Celebrity Fighter: This worker got famous as a pro boxer or mixed martial artist. They will increase the ratings and attendance for shows they're pre-booked for, as they draw casual fans who wouldn't normally watch the show. They will not work for companies smaller than Medium in size, are more likely to request short term deals or deals that limit their appearances, will ask for a big amount of money, will only get involved in matches with main event level workers (unless they have a positive relationship with somebody of lesser importance), and are highly likely to refuse to do jobs. Wrestlers who are involved in a match with them will get a popularity boost from the publicity, and will not complain if they have to lose the match. This is only for fighters who have actually achieved mainstream celebrity (think Mike Tyson, Floyd Mayweather, Connor McGregor, Ronda Rousey...), not just any worker with the MMA Fighter/Former MMA Fighter/Boxer/Former Pro Boxer attribute.

Celebrity Athlete: This worker got famous as a football player or basketball player. They will increase the ratings and attendance for shows they're pre-booked for, as they draw casual fans who wouldn't normally watch the show. They will not work for companies smaller than Medium in size, are more likely to request short term deals or deals that limit their appearances, will ask for a big amount of money, will only get involved in matches with upper midcard or main event level workers (unless they have a positive relationship with somebody of lesser importance), and are likely to refuse to do jobs. Wrestlers who are involved in a match with them will get a popularity boost from the publicity, and are slightly less likely to complain if they have to lose the match. This is only for workers who are/were big names in their field (think Shaquille O'Neal, Dennis Rodman, Lawrence Taylor, Rob Gronkowski...), not any practice squad guy who became a wrestler after getting injured or failing to make it big (like, say, Top Dolla).

A-List Celebrity Actor/Musician: This worker got famous as an actor or recording artist. They will increase the ratings and attendance for shows they're pre-booked for, as they draw casual fans who wouldn't normally watch the show. They will not work for companies smaller than Medium in size, will only agree to sign short term deals for 1 to 3 appearances, will ask for a huge amount of money, will only get involved in matches with main event level workers (unless they have a positive relationship with somebody of lesser importance), and are likely to refuse to do jobs. They will need to be heavily protected during matches (limited involvement, no crazy bumps or stunt bumps). Wrestlers who are involved in a match with them will get a popularity boost from the publicity, but may still get upset if they have to lose to the celebrity. This is only for celebrities who appear semi-regularly and get involved in storylines and matches (think Snoop Dogg, Bad Bunny...), not any singer who showed up once to sing America the Beautiful at WrestleMania.

Minor Celebrity Actor/Musician: This worker got mildly famous as an actor or recording artist. They will slightly increase the ratings and attendance for shows they're pre-booked for, as they draw casual fans who wouldn't normally watch the show. They will only agree to sign short term deals for 1 to 5 appearances and may ask for a big amount of money. Wrestlers who are involved in a match with them will get a small popularity boost from the publicity, and are likely to get upset if they have to lose to the celebrity. This is only for celebrities who appear semi-regularly and get involved in storylines and matches (think David Arquette), not any game show host who showed up once to wave at the camera from the front row.

Edited May 19, 2023 by MisterSocko

[Mattywood]

Bad To The Bone: This worker will never complain about turning heel no matter how popular they get, and may even request a heel turn depending on how long they have been a babyface. Can possibly generate higher than normal merchandise numbers as a heel, and can succeed as a figurehead of a company while working as a heel.

[Jaysin]

You still got it- A temporary attribute that gives a small bonus to ring skills for veterans after a particular good performance. 

[Mattywood]

No Politics: This worker will never take time off to go into politics, no matter how popular they get.

No Movies/TV: This worker will never take time off to film movies and/or TV shows, no matter how popular they get.

Part Time Acting: Movies and/or TV shows are only a side gig for this worker, so they will not take as much time off as a Movie/TV star would. Popularity boosts from the movies and/or TV shows they film will be greatly reduced.

Make Over: This worker has received a make over and will get a boost to their star quality and sex appeal.

[The Masked Orange]

Overhyped: (Hidden Attribute) The game will always treat their potential as higher than it is, and overstate to the player their potential. This effects things such as scouting and Next Big Thing/Hot Prospect reports.

 

Can't See It Myself or Can't See Prospect: (Hidden Attribute) The game will always treat their potential as lower than it is, and understate to the player their potential. This effects things such as scouting and Next Big Thing/Hot Prospect reports.

 

Thought this could be a fun couple to add a bit of randomness to how we are used to 'determining' or figuring out potential and destiny rolls in game. Could also be used by Real World mods to better simulate certain wrestlers that just didn't pan out, or who were always looked down upon by the establishment.

[LordofGustav]

Nevermind

Edited June 24, 2023 by LordofGustav
MisterSocko was right, i'm overthinking

[MisterSocko]

Isn't that already in the game as Keeps Kayfabe?

[The Masked Orange]

Category: Misc. Attributes

 

Celebrity Wrestler: This wrestler is a celebrity who doesn't consider themselves as part of the wrestling business. They will only ever accept short-term bookings and will take lengthy breaks between bookings. However, as they aren't expected to wrestle frequently they aren't impacted by ring rust the way a regular worker would be.

 

This is part of my one-man campaign to have Ross Henry play an active role in the C-Verse again. It was always so fun to book him as a short-term storyline in the previous TEW, but I get how that kind of character didn't really work in how ai promotions hire (he'd just sit in USPW's main event forever dragging down match ratings in my experience) and that freelance mechanics don't really cover what celebrity wrestlers look like irl.

[The Masked Orange]

The Greater the Obstacle: (Hidden Attribute) This wrestler's mentality is such that if they develop a long-term injury their skills will not decline as much as usual, and on their return they receive a performance boost in matches.

 

I Still Hear The Screaming: (Hidden Attribute) This wrestler's mentality is such that if they develop a long-term injury they will be shaken and their skills will decline drastically, and on their return they receive a performance malus in matches.

 

 

Back to thinking that hidden attributes like these would be a great way to increase variance in games, which is something I'd love to see more of. Also more attributes that give historical RL modders a chance to reflect better a wrestler's injury narrative (Flair's plane crash has become a part of wrestling lore, but think of all the wrestlers that just couldn't find that magic again after a bad injury) without having to force it with an in-game Narrative which can sometimes make it feel too prescriptive.

[MisterSocko]

The Fans Deserve My Blood: This worker is obsessed with showing what a legitimate bad ass they are, no matter how much success they've already achieved, and will always be willing to consider offers from hardcore/deathmatch promotions for short-term deals, even lowering their financial expectations considerably for the pleasure of hemorraging in an armory.

Wrestling Fans Are Not My Only Fans: This female worker offers racy content online for a fee. Family-friendly companies will likely not want to work with her, or ask her to delete her content to keep working with her (which she may or may not do, depending on her personality). She might be eligible for small popularity boosts. She may go on a long hiatus/retire from active competition/leave the business as she's getting enough revenue from her generous admirers. This attribute only starts appearing in the mid-2010s for female workers with a minimum Sex Appeal skill of 70 and minimum average popularity of 20 in at least 1 game area. Workers who already have the Highly Moral and/or Prudish attribute can not gain this one. (might be a bit redundant with Outside Interests though)

[MisterSocko]

On Uncle Dave's S*** List: This worker is strongly disliked by the most prominent reporter in the business. Any negative incident they get involved in will hurt their Reputation even more than it normally would, and any Scandal they get involved with will be more severe than it normally would.

Has Uncle Dave on Speed Dial: This worker is a favorite of the most prominent reporter in the business. Any negative incident they get involved in will hurt their Reputation less than it normally would, and they are likely to get workers they have a negative relationship with On Uncle Dave's S*** List.

(I'll admit to not being very familiar with the C-Verse but I'm guessing the name would have to be something other than "Uncle Dave", but you get the idea)

The Way It Sounds, "Vice President", It Just Turns Me On: This worker has held a position of power in a company, and the creative freedom it gave them is now something they can't live without. They will never sign with a company that doesn't offer them the Creative Control perk, no matter how good the money is. (Obviously the name is too long but how often do you get an opportunity to quote a movie about former WCW star RoboCop while discussing TEW ideas?)

[SkyCrasher]

Top Traitor - This worker is known for changing sides often, and knows just how to maximise a turn's impact. Their turns are much more likely to be successful; the time they must spend between turns is shorter than usual; and segments in which they turn have improved ratings.

For guys like Edge and Big Show who seem to switch between face and heel on the regular

[Jaysin]

Student of the Game- A talent with this attribute actively seeks out mentors to learn as much as possible.