Mammoth Posted May 22, 2020 Author Share Posted May 22, 2020 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="TheWho87" data-cite="TheWho87" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="49495" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm expanding the European locations in my mod and there are some more European countries missing from the map.<p> </p><p> Andorra - Western Europe</p><p> Armenia - Eastern Europe</p><p> Azerbaijan - Eastern Europe</p><p> Cyprus - Southern Mediterranean</p><p> Kazakhstan - Eastern Europe</p><p> Liechtenstein - Central Europe</p><p> Luxembourg - Western Europe</p><p> Malta - Southern Mediterranean</p><p> Monaco - Western Europe</p><p> Montenegro - Southern Europe</p><p> San Marino - Southern Mediterranean</p></div></blockquote><p> All have been added to the original post, except Montenegro because there literally isn't any space for me to add it. Kazakhstan is obviously a lot larger too but I didn't think it was necessary to do the whole country since the whole idea behind these maps is to just give people an idea of which "region" each country comes under in terms of TEW, it isn't supposed to be 100% accurate.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWho87 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 <p>Oh yeah, it's just me being a bit pedantic really, I'm working on my venue and location file and expanding Europe to include as many stadia from each country as possible so I can then convert venues into locations and build up a big location resource.</p><p> </p><p> The concept I'm working on is that if the largest stadium in a location is X, I'll round that number up and use that as the largest ammount that area can draw. For example, based on <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_stadiums_by_capacity" rel="external nofollow">stadiums by capacity on Wikipedia</a>, the Cotton Bowl Stadium in Dallas, Texas has a capacity of 92,100, I'd translate that as Dallas, Texas having the potentual to draw a maximum of 95,000. And since in the developer journal locations cap at 100,000, any stadia over 100,000 will cap at 100,000.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitarzu Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 You forgot the Vatican City. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWho87 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Kitarzu" data-cite="Kitarzu" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="49495" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You forgot the Vatican City.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> So they have any sporting venues there?</p><p> </p><p> Even the Vatican City national team play in Rome.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neoteros Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 So they have any sporting venues there? Even the Vatican City national team play in Rome. Hailing from Italy, I went to both Rome and Vatican City quite a few times and let me tell you, Piazza San Pietro would be one hell (heh) of a location for a makeshift wrestling ring. I want garbage matches over there, with broken chalices and flaming crosses. San Marino, it'd just be the homeland of the world's quirkiest foreign wrestling heel, whose most heinous crime would probably be tax evasion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d12345 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="TheWho87" data-cite="TheWho87" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="49495" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Oh yeah, it's just me being a bit pedantic really, I'm working on my venue and location file and expanding Europe to include as many stadia from each country as possible so I can then convert venues into locations and build up a big location resource.<p> </p><p> The concept I'm working on is that if the largest stadium in a location is X, I'll round that number up and use that as the largest ammount that area can draw. For example, based on <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_stadiums_by_capacity" rel="external nofollow">stadiums by capacity on Wikipedia</a>, the Cotton Bowl Stadium in Dallas, Texas has a capacity of 92,100, I'd translate that as Dallas, Texas having the potentual to draw a maximum of 95,000. And since in the developer journal locations cap at 100,000, any stadia over 100,000 will cap at 100,000.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Heads up that I've went around the world and added so many locations already in my Locations Extended mod (check it out lol).</p><p> </p><p> For the venues it's better to look at the capacity it holds for concerts or its record attendance. For example the Cotton Bowl's record is 96k.</p><p> </p><p> Also a great resource I used in addition to Wikipedia lists is - <a href="http://www.worldstadiums.com" rel="external nofollow">http://www.worldstadiums.com</a></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWho87 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 Heads up that I've went around the world and added so many locations already in my Locations Extended mod (check it out lol). For the venues it's better to look at the capacity it holds for concerts or its record attendance. For example the Cotton Bowl's record is 96k. Also a great resource I used in addition to Wikipedia lists is - http://www.worldstadiums.com I already had a pretty solid venue file, a little over 2100, most of what I was doing was just checking through and updating names, now it's a little over 2800+.mostly expanding to cover all the new regions, it's the smaller venues that are more of an issue to find info on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusionfreak Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 Wow, totally awesome work. It has helped out a ton. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWho87 Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 <p>Also another small correction, you have Okinawa not covered in the game area, yet it is covered by the Kyushu region.</p><p> </p><p> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_regions_of_Japan#Table" rel="external nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_regions_of_Japan#Table</a></p><p> </p><p> The same could also cover Alaska being in the North West since it's the most north western state there is, it's just seperated from mainland America due to Canada.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mammoth Posted May 24, 2020 Author Share Posted May 24, 2020 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="TheWho87" data-cite="TheWho87" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="49495" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Also another small correction, you have Okinawa not covered in the game area, yet it is covered by the Kyushu region.<p> </p><p> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_regions_of_Japan#Table" rel="external nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_regions_of_Japan#Table</a></p><p> </p><p> The same could also cover Alaska being in the North West since it's the most north western state there is, it's just seperated from mainland America due to Canada.</p></div></blockquote><p> Neither are specifically mentioned in TEW, thus they're both (Okinawa and Alaska) left much to the modification makers discretion. While I'd personally agree with you in both cases (especially the former, as proven with your link), I'm happier leaving them as they are - which is listed as being possibly different depending on the modification - because I'd hate to misinform people. You could argue I should educate modifications makers but unfortunately, we're not the smartest of people... we just like to pretend we are. xD <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattduck Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 How is Tennesse southeast and Texas mid-south? The mid-south is Memphis and expands out from there to all western TN, western KY, northern Mississippi and Alabama, most of Arkansas, and southern Missouri. Texas is Texas, you don't need to add anything to it. California is west coast wrestling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Historian Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 How is Tennesse southeast and Texas mid-south? The mid-south is Memphis and expands out from there to all western TN, western KY, northern Mississippi and Alabama, most of Arkansas, and southern Missouri. Texas is Texas, you don't need to add anything to it. California is west coast wrestling. I don't necessarily disagree -- but the geography of TEW has never been entirely perfect. The maps are made off of the locations specified in the game. If you go to book a show in the South East -- that's where you'll find Tennessee. The regions were done, I believe, to speed up processing time, because it's easier for the game to handle the regions as they're grouped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitarzu Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Kazakhstan is in Europe? Really? <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/confused.png.d4a8e6b6eab0c67698b911fb041c0ed1.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NexxusDrako Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Kazakhstan is in Europe? Really? Only because they're a former Soviet state, really. I mean, they're in UEFA because of that. Continents are just human borders anyway and cultures vary between there being anywhere between 4 and 7 of them... so yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoredomTM Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Did Serbia reannex Montenegro and Kosovo? Oh no Jokes aside, really good work! I think I saw Okinawa locations as part of Kyushu in the default database, or was it the Thunderverse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryptonite Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 this is a great find.. not sure how i never saw it before. Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillyWillyWilly Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 great work, but how do you define the regions? In europe in particular, some things seem a bit strange to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mammoth Posted October 1, 2020 Author Share Posted October 1, 2020 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="WillyWillyWilly" data-cite="WillyWillyWilly" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="49495" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>great work, but how do you define the regions?<p> In europe in particular, some things seem a bit strange to me.</p></div></blockquote><p> I used the maps (and descriptions) in TEW20. They aren't all completely accurate to real life but I believe Adam has said numerous times that this is to make mechanics in the game easier. Strangely enough, Europe is probably closest to real life because it's a hot mess in real life as well as in the game, in terms of how different countries fit into specific regions. xD</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnal881 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 There is anyway to change Latinamerica instead of Mexico? There are a growing industry in South America:Chile, Brazil, Peru, Argentina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprout1883 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 There is anyway to change Latinamerica instead of Mexico? There are a growing industry in South America:Chile, Brazil, Peru, Argentina. Not as far as I know. The only thing you could do is to add various locations in the editor under the southern most region of Mexico Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnal881 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Not as far as I know. The only thing you could do is to add various locations in the editor under the southern most region of Mexico You mean add Venues? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprout1883 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 You mean add Venues? Either venues or locations,. But they will all be classed as Whatever the particular region is for Mexico in the game world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juce Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 Looking forward to the new WCW 2001 mod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foryst Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Mammoth" data-cite="Mammoth" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="49495" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I used the maps (and descriptions) in TEW20. They aren't all completely accurate to real life but I believe Adam has said numerous times that this is to make mechanics in the game easier. Strangely enough, Europe is probably closest to real life because it's a hot mess in real life as well as in the game, in terms of how different countries fit into specific regions. xD</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It still could be adjusted a bit to add a bit more realism while keeping the easiness. History brought prowrestling back to the "countries East of the Iron Curtain" late. First Polish promotion IRL started in 2009, Hungarian in 2010, Czech in 2017... yet these countries landed in the same region as way more established Germany etc, possibly being the only reason for "Central European language" to exist ingame. </p><p> </p><p> This map of Europe, if implemented, would be able to reflect the wrestling in the region situation a bit more: <img alt="dMjCcUL" data-src="https://imgur.com/dMjCcUL" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> <strong>EDIT:</strong> ...heck, that could even give an option to simplify the language system. In place of three languages (Central European, Scandinavian and Eastern European), we could go for only two, named after the language families: Germanic (Scandinavia, Central Europe for DE/CH/AT) and Slavic (Russia, Eastern Europe, Southern Europe, Central Europe if PL/CZ/SK/HU are there).</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blonde Bomber Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 I feel like Kansas should be in the mid west. Especially since Missouri is in the mid west and they’re basically sisters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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