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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Cards1125" data-cite="Cards1125" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="49686" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Just downloaded yesterday, and I'm having an absolute blast so far. Thanks for all the work you put into this!</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Awesome! Glad you like it!</p>
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I wonder, now that there's a Carnival Days product setting, will Southern Pro Wrestling use it, or will Monaghan's Marvelous Traveling Carnival come back to life? :D By the way, I found a company that's in the picture files (Britannia Wrestling Alliance) but not in the actual data, I tried searching for it to no avail.
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="WakandaWarrior" data-cite="WakandaWarrior" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="49686" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Seems like the latest patch has made it so every company early in the game is stuck at 30 popularity and Tiny.<p> </p><p> Im in 1940 and every single company is still 30 popularity and Tiny except DPW which starts at 40 popularity.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You may have found something. From 1936 onwards none of my bigger promotions are gaining any popularity at all</p>
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I am having fun with this. I also have the companies not progressing in popularity, but i think this has to do with Adam's new criteria, basically he needs a patch to fix it.

 

The thing that scares me the most is the game getting very slow with lots of companies and workers, so i have removed all non-USA and reduced the Dojo's to just the essential to see how it goes. 20 years into the game and it is working very good. Much faster than the CV database.

 

For me on my computer, the ideal database size is 20-25 companies with 2000ish workers.

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Capelli King" data-cite="Capelli King" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="49686" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I am having fun with this. I also have the companies not progressing in popularity, but i think this has to do with Adam's new criteria, basically he needs a patch to fix it.<p> </p><p> The thing that scares me the most is the game getting very slow with lots of companies and workers, so i have removed all non-USA and reduced the Dojo's to just the essential to see how it goes. 20 years into the game and it is working very good. Much faster than the CV database. </p><p> </p><p> For me on my computer, the ideal database size is 20-25 companies with 2000ish workers.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I posted this in the general game play questions thread: <a href="http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2449145&postcount=1971" rel="external nofollow">http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2449145&postcount=1971</a></p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="49686" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> Quote:</p><p> Originally Posted by Vocalite View Post</p><p> Well that is incredibly gamebreaking, I hope Adam Ryland (or whoever is in charge) reads this because it's astoundingly problematic and needs to be fixed ASAP. I wish I could rollback my game a few months so I didn't waste all this time</p><p> So the latest patch added this option:</p><p> </p><p> Quote:</p><p> - Added a Natural Growth Limits option for people who want a more fantasy-based experience with regard to company popularity growth</p><p> If you don't use that option, if less than 5000 people see your show (that's including attendance and broadcasting you were capped at 30 pop). For the CV that basically means you have to get on WrestleWorld as soon as possible. Basically once you hit 25 popularity you need to increase your production values and get a deal with WrestleWorld.</p><p> </p><p> It also means mod makers need to ensure there are broadcasting options available for tiny companies</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="49686" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>- Added a Natural Growth Limits option for people who want a more fantasy-based experience with regard to company popularity growth </div></blockquote><p> </p><p> This is really to vague for me to say how it affects the game. Does it only affect this from patch 1.12:</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="49686" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>- Added new code that capped how high a company's popularity can reach in a region by the number of viewers there to stop companies getting to high levels whilst on small broadcasters</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Or does it affect some of the earlier popularity/attendance fixes as well?</p>
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Started a watcher game today. It's now 1935. All promotions stay at 30 pop. Most of them could sign broadcast deals but they just don't do it. TWA was the only promotion to sign one for touring highlights. They have 30 pop in two regions now but thats it. This can't be right.
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<p>Year One</p><p> </p><p>

I'm in December of the first year. Unfortunately, Danielle Loiselle died in a rabid badger attack in the second month of the show, and another died in a car accident a few months later, while being groomed as Loiselle's replacement. Crazyness. however, only being able to have 4 matches per show is really killing my ability to grow - I really need another road agent - Just read here today about needing to turn on the balancing, so hoping to draw one soon.</p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BiffJordan" data-cite="BiffJordan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="49686" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm really excited to see where this goes. I'm in 1928 on a watcher right now. It's taking forever to progress a year so I may end up letting it advance while I sleep tonight and start a company in the 80's or wherever I wake up.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> What is this 'watcher' I see so many people posting about? Sorry if it's common knowledge, I'm new here.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="cruzacsvoice" data-cite="cruzacsvoice" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="49686" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>What is this 'watcher' I see so many people posting about? Sorry if it's common knowledge, I'm new here.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It is where you don't control a company and just simulate ahead - ie you watch the game world evolve without your interference.</p>
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What is this 'watcher' I see so many people posting about? Sorry if it's common knowledge, I'm new here.

 

Yeah since this Mod starts in 1920. You can watch the AI take all the info given from the mod maker over time to create a very organic hopefully balanced game world. Warning though, it takes a long time to advance years! I started yesterday afternoon and I'm still only on 1933. I stop every few years to try and learn the history of what's going on in the business.

 

Eventually I'll pick a time to start my own promotion or join an already existing one.

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="cruzacsvoice" data-cite="cruzacsvoice" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="49686" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm in December of the first year. Unfortunately, Danielle Loiselle died in a rabid badger attack in the second month of the show, and another died in a car accident a few months later, while being groomed as Loiselle's replacement. Crazyness. however, only being able to have 4 matches per show is really killing my ability to grow - I really need another road agent - Just read here today about needing to turn on the balancing, so hoping to draw one soon.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Just get another wrassler to do it. You'll get penalties but it's 1920, what <em>isn't</em> going to get you penalties?</p><p> </p><p> Lutter isn't a very good road agent anyway because he has 0 experience.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="cruzacsvoice" data-cite="cruzacsvoice" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="49686" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm in December of the first year. Unfortunately, Danielle Loiselle died in a rabid badger attack in the second month of the show, and another died in a car accident a few months later, while being groomed as Loiselle's replacement. Crazyness. however, only being able to have 4 matches per show is really killing my ability to grow - I really need another road agent - Just read here today about needing to turn on the balancing, so hoping to draw one soon.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Autofix imbalance doesn't generate road agents, only retired wrestlers who meet the skill requirements of becoming agents so there won't be any for about 15-20 years</p>
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<p>Road Agent</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Blake Trask" data-cite="Blake Trask" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="49686" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Just get another wrassler to do it. You'll get penalties but it's 1920, what <em>isn't</em> going to get you penalties?<p> </p><p> Lutter isn't a very good road agent anyway because he has 0 experience.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I've been asking all the wrestlers i come across to work as a road agent -- no luck yet :-/</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="tryker2710" data-cite="tryker2710" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="49686" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Autofix imbalance doesn't generate road agents, only retired wrestlers who meet the skill requirements of becoming agents so there won't be any for about 15-20 years</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Oh, then I don't think I understand how to make a 2nd agent, so that I can work longer shows - Going into my second year, I've decided to do a weekly show, so that I can showcase more talent and work with a deeper pool of talent.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="cruzacsvoice" data-cite="cruzacsvoice" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="49686" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I've been asking all the wrestlers i come across to work as a road agent -- no luck yet :-/</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You can just select someone on your roster as the road agent during the match setup.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="cruzacsvoice" data-cite="cruzacsvoice" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="49686" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Oh, then I don't think I understand how to make a 2nd agent, so that I can work longer shows - Going into my second year, I've decided to do a weekly show, so that I can showcase more talent and work with a deeper pool of talent.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You can do the Quick Fill if you want to generate random road agents.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Blake Trask" data-cite="Blake Trask" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="49686" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Just get another wrassler to do it. You'll get penalties but it's 1920, what <em>isn't</em> going to get you penalties?<p> </p><p> Lutter isn't a very good road agent anyway because he has 0 experience.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I was also wondering what I needed to do for him to get better -- I'm assuming that the lack of experience is the issue. You've helped me a ton already! Thanks so much for your time/info!</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="i effin rule" data-cite="i effin rule" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="49686" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You can just select someone on your roster as the road agent during the match setup.<p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> You can do the Quick Fill if you want to generate random road agents.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I tried this one, but got an error about there not being any available names/pictures.</p>
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<p>As effin mentioned, if you turn off roles on the booking screen, you can then select literally anyone.</p><p> </p><p>

Unfortunately experience doesn't seem to increase with road agenting only, so Lutter will always be a bit naff. The only stat that might increase is his respect.</p><p> </p><p>

If you want the authentic experience, it's a long term problem that will only <em>start</em> to be mitigated once the first set of gens/workers start to gain more experience and respect, which will take some time. Still, this is the birth of wrestling so it kind of makes sense that there is a lack of expert agents to help put matches together.</p><p> </p><p>

The penalties aren't insurmountable and it will be a very very long time before match grades are ever high enough for poor road agenting to be a meaningful penalty. I've had the penalties on every match I've ever booked on the save I'm a couple years into, but the workers are poor so it doesn't really matter.</p><p> </p><p>

However, like effin said, you can use quick add in the editor/import roadies in if it bothers you. Or even use the in game editor to set workers up as road agents. That's less realistic to the game state but it's your game and y'know, getting roadie penalties for twenty years might not be your jam. XD.</p>

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<p>Thanks for the info! I'll probably just use the game editor and set someone as a road agent - similar to the way that an unemployed wrestler started a company Year 2, with 3x the money that I started with, hah! As with the rest of the game, I'm sure I can come up with a story in my head <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> (since the quick add didn't work)</p><p> </p><p>

Thanks again!</p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="cruzacsvoice" data-cite="cruzacsvoice" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="49686" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I tried this one, but got an error about there not being any available names/pictures.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Are you playing with the picture pack? You shouldn't be out of free pictures yet. Also, it sounds like you have selected the option to only generate workers if there is a picture available. If you turn that off you can generate as many as you'd like and not have to worry about the pictures.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="i effin rule" data-cite="i effin rule" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="49686" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Are you playing with the picture pack? You shouldn't be out of free pictures yet. Also, it sounds like you have selected the option to only generate workers if there is a picture available. If you turn that off you can generate as many as you'd like and not have to worry about the pictures.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I thought that I was... I'll admit I'm super new to this so I may have done something wrong -- i'll have to figure out how to tell which packs i have installed - I have all the SPW logos, as I'm playing as them -</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="cruzacsvoice" data-cite="cruzacsvoice" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="49686" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I thought that I was... I'll admit I'm super new to this so I may have done something wrong -- i'll have to figure out how to tell which packs i have installed - I have all the SPW logos, as I'm playing as them -</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Do any of your workers have images?</p>
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