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Did you call a So. Fla station yesterday and get berated by the host? Because that's what a caller said and the host was "Is this a prank call? Because bringing up those 3 players is making it so difficult for me to take you seriously." He even closed by saying that the Heat don't even know who those guys are.
Naw..I was being facetious (shoulda thrown a winky face in there)
The point I'm making is that they are going to have to fill in the cracks with some pretty questionable names. Any 'talent' that comes to Miami to chase a ring are going to be broken down vets or headcases no one else will touch (ie "hey...wonder what Steve Francis is doing these days???")
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I have been hearing reports all day at work talking about Beasley being traded to the Wolves for the TPE, then after the big three are signed and sealed trading the TPE back to the T'Wolves for Kevin Love.
That would be awful and stupid for the TWolves. But since it's David Kahn that's pretty believable.
Love would be a perfect fit. Hed rebound, play D, hit open jumpers, and is a terrific passer to start the break. Like a younger Brad Miller.
I think you HAVE to dump Beasley because he's valuable to teams looking to re-build and there are quite a few reports that paint him as a total jack ass that can't get along with teammates.
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Don't think the fact he was "in Miami" was what generatd the speculation. I mean..he's got a private jet. He attended his camp in Cleveland and the studio he's doing the show from is 7 minutes from the Knicks practice facility. So it's not his location.
Apparently the Buchers and Broussards of the world are getting info from in his camp and from teams that have already admitted they're out of the running.
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Heywood signed with the Mavs already.
I think its "possible" to put a decent team around these guys ( I mean the Heat's last title came with guys like Gary Payton and Antoine Walker and Zo all clinging on for the ride). You could possibly get TMac or AI or hell call Stephon Marbury and see what he's up to.
But until I see the complete roster I don't think signing Lebron guarantees the Heat anything more than being a 2 or 3 seed in the East.
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Most comics are written for people in their teens and early 20s.
You know those kiddie comics where all the superheroes are infants or whatever? That seems to be closer to what they're going for.
Which can be incredibly frustrating when they have guys like Edge and Jericho who are at their absoulute best working with more mature material. Even Miz and Morrison have shown on their web stuff that they can be incredibly funny playing off of grown up pop culture references.
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Bill Simmons makes a couple nice points in today's article about why a Lebron-Wade-Bosh trio isn't a guarantee to win a title:
10. Let's say LeBron signs with Miami. Can you even make the Finals with LeBron, Bosh, Wade and nine minimum-salary guys? Because that might be next year's team … and if that's what happens, the answer is "no effing way." You don't win titles just because of your top three. That belittles the meaning of guys like Derek Fisher, Robert Horry, Steve Kerr, John Paxson, Brian Shaw … you could go on for hours naming role players who swung a title. The 2008 Celts lucked out by getting James Posey, Eddie House and P.J. Brown for practically nothing; Miami wouldn't have that luxury this summer, not with so many role players jockeying for contracts one year before the possible lockout. Nobody is taking less money to showcase themselves for a summer that might not happen. Even if Miami could spin Michael Beasley for a fourth guy (say, Trevor Ariza), that's still not enough. They'd need one more rebounder, point guard, a 3-point shooter and a center. Good luck.11. Another problem: You realize how many minutes these guys would log on a three-man team? 42-44 minutes for 100 games … and if anyone missed an extended stretch of games, then that would put even more pressure on the other two. Crazy. No way they win more than 50, especially with teams gunning for them every night. We've also never seen two perimeter superstar alpha dogs coexist for an NBA title -- not even when Jerry West and Elgin Baylor teamed up with Wilt Chamberlain against the aging Celtics in 1969. LeBron would have to accept becoming Mega-Pippen to Wade's Jordan. (Yeah, right.) Even during the final quarter of the 2008 gold-medal game, when everyone on the American team was staring at each other wondering who was going to step up against a red-hot Spain team, there were a few minutes of tentative, "I don't want to step on anyone's toes here" basketball before Kobe said "Screw it, get out of my way" and took over the key portion of the game.
That's my opinion basically. Unless they get some guys to accept far, far, far below market value, I don't see that team being a title team.
Gator has mentioned Jermain O'Neal and Haslem and even TMac..so maybe they can get some people around them, but that's a huge if and until those questions are answered this Heat team still has a lot of work to do.
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Beyond the points lazor and other have brought up, I'd like to add this:
If you look at the rosters that Heyman had to deal with in ECW, and consider the fact that he had to deal with his biggest stars constantly being poached, he has WAAAAYYYY more talent in TNA to work with.
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Not sure that has anything to do with him wrestling a Lucha style though, imo he's that good of a worker he would've made a great addition to any promotion.
True. But if you take away his lucha style or character I think you take away what makes him realyl special.
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hears the thing though, unless they use the MLE and the Bi-ann correctly, they are still looking at scabs for back-ups. Can they win a championship with scabs as back ups? Also now they are in a pickle because Bosh will have to play Center, unless the resign O'Neal and make Beasley their 6th. Bosh biggest issue was he doesn't want to gaurd Centers and I doubt he's gonna like covering Centers like Howard, Chandler, and Horford 4 games a piece.
I honestly don't think so. I think they'd need a decent C and back up PF and an above average PG.
Unless you find 3 or 4 vets willing to take waaay less than their market value to chase a ring, I think they win a ton of regular season games and then bog down in the conference finals.
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It's not like I'm asking for a big change. Are little changes here and there actually DECREASE profit? I doubt it. That being said, WWE is experiencing with a tiny bit of Lucha Libre, if only a tiny bit (Rey Mysterio, Dos Caras Jr.), but I wish it was a bit more.
So do I. If Mistico had been even a slightly better English speaker he would've made a great addition a couple years back.
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I'm hoping that's where he goes. LeBron being there and taking all the pressure off of Rose for running the offense could really help him develop without having to be the only go-to-guy on the team. In his rookie year he had to do virtually everything just to get them to an eight seed and push the Celtics in their great series. Boozer will really help out Noah too. He can focus on just hitting the boards and playing great defense now that he won't be the primary front court scorer.
When you look at a possible lineup of Rose, Deng, James, Boozer and Noah that's a team that if those three that have been with Chicago step up and develop into above average players that could contend for a long, long time. They'd still need somebody to be a potent outside shooter, but they could easily scoop up somebody like Mike Miller for the mid level exception to fill that role.
Yeah...thinking exactly the same thing (even about adding Mike Miller)
Im a huge Lakers fan, but even I can see how good that line-up would be. Boozer and Noah are perfect compliments to each other,, and Lebron would be that much harder to deal with when Rose i on the floor because both men are good distributors.
What's interesting to me is that Deng and Taj Gibson give the Bulls a lot of line-upflexibility because you can play big with Lebron at the 2 and Gibson up front with Noah and Boozer, or go small and flip flop Deng and Lebron at the swing positions to take advantage of match-ups.
And Miller would be a no-brainer. A career 40% 3-pt shooter who would take the midlevel and slide in as your primary scorer off the bench instantly? that's perfect.
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Boozer to the Bulls for 5 years
That signing has me thinking Lebron goes there.
It gives Chicago a crazy good roster. The dollar amount leaves enough for Lebron to sign for the max (esp with the announcement that the cap is like $2 million more than expected). And everyone is young enough that Lebron could conceivably make several runs at a title with this core group.
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The problem is, there's a better way to go about it. In TEW terms, their product is:
Key Feature: Mainstream
Heavy: Comedy
Medium: Traditional
The problem is, the lack of even basic variety hurts a lot of their performers. So far, the only wrestler that THRIVES on their product is the Miz. He pratically fits like a glove with it. Everyone else, including Cena, doesn't fit well enough. Miz fits so well he looks too darn good for his own good sometimes.
What I would like to see is a bit more Modern and Lucha LIbre to mix things up. It's not like either hurts the WWE in terms of stability. It's like McDonald's vs. Burger King again. McDonald's is too mainstream... Burger is also Mainstream, but with more variety. I'm not asking for much. Just some more variety.
Better is a relative term. Better to who? I'm sure you see how hard it would be to please the always changing tatses of the net fan.
I get what you're saying. I do. I'd love to see a little more Lucha or indy hustle style, or edgier storylines, or more hardcore matches. I mean...the product is so predictable that I can literally go weeks w/o watching and be completely caught up after one episode of Raw.
But if you're a billion dollar company with stockholders to answer to and a public image that has been brutalized in the last few years, how willing would you be to try something different?
Would you sit there and try to create risque characters and storylines in order to push the envelope in order to please a target audience that is just as likely to watch UFC and has -for the most part - very little disposable income? Or would you do everything you could to put togethera safe product that you know will please a segemtn of the viewing audience that are proven spenders?
Take your example: Burger King vs McDonald's. You say that McDonald's is 'too mainstream' and BK has a better variety. Probably true. (i think McDonalds food is awful) But look at it this way: Too Mainstream McDonalds generates roughly twice the annual profits as BK and is so far ahead of them in the fast food industry that magazines like Forbes don't even bother comparing the two ..(McDonalds is generally examined alongside other 'industry leaders' like Starbucks or whatnot)
If 'too mainstream' equates to an extra 3 billion dollars a year, would you turn that away if you ran McDonald's?
Do I personally think it's a great product? No. (referring to both the WWE and McD's)
But I GETwhy the WWE does what it does. And I'm not sure a lot of fans try to see that point of view. (not saying that you don't...just a general statement about the concept of profit vs creative integrity)
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I'm not saying WWE is doing it wrong. I think a more important complaint is, even if WWE internally lacks diversity in terms of style (it does), WWE was one of the players (though not the only one) that brought about the lack of diversity in wrestling generally. In both cases, it hurts them in the long run.
I do not take issue with WWE being Mainstream, but I take issue with it catering too much to it. It makes their wrestling tasteless and bland, something akin when you compare McDonald's to In-N-Out Burgers (like their food), Johnny Rockets (love their food), or the Heart-Attack Grill (where I haven' been before). If WWE was more like Burger King, that would be more acceptable.
The lack of diversity has also hurt WWE's own product. Unless you are really talented (Kofi Kingston) or very determined (the Miz), or both (Kurt Angle), you never really develop the skills necessary to be much. To WWE's credit, a lot of their wrestlers are pretty safe, pretty consistent, and enough of them know their fundamentals. To their discredit, their other skills are lacking.
I'll give Ted Dibiase again, as an example. He's average in size. He's got a decent look. But he's about dull as a piece of cardboard. He can't get any heat, especially by himself. He's also a very basic, if consistent, worker. Or Dolph Ziggler. Your cookie-cutter good-looking heel. or Drew McIntyre, whose long talks makes C-SPAN look interesting. Or Sheamus, who is your typical selfish prick who is cowardly most of time who talks mostly a big game.
It's just that, I've seen all of this before, but not only that, they don't feel like they are BEING a heel or a face, but they feel like their acting AS one, with a lot of emotion drained out.
Don't disagree with anything you're saying.
But - again - I'm sure that the people running WWE would say that everthing they've done was done in order to make their business stronger and more stable.
They dumbed down the product, simplified the storylines, and gone with incredibly generic characters, which all pissess off the net fans. To the WWE, those decisions were made specifically to cater to a younger, easier to predict, easier to please(and much less fickle) audience.
They also spent a decade buying out competition, purchasing video libraries, and diversifying the revenue streams.
That means the E will get much less low points and - admittedly - much less high points.
So there you go: everything you said is true and valid and to the people running the E I don't think they care. They probably don't thinks its possible to spend too much time catering to the mainstream
I'm not saying I think its a great idea. I'm just saying that's what it is.
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The problem with the WWE, as Cornette has said, it's that WWE has been "sanitized, homogenized", everyone talks the same, looks the same, acts the same, and everyone sounds as if they were reading off a script. Cornette attributes it to the nature of scripting, I would agree, except some people can pull this off (the Miz, Chris Jericho), but most can't (Ted Dibiase Jr., Jack Swagger).
That's a totally fair complaint, but the people running WWE would tell you that they need to be able to create a certain amount of predictability for business purposes.
They know - in general - what works and what's always worked and that's what they're trying to create.
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="GatorBait19" data-cite="GatorBait19" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="27836" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> Gortat, Bass, Carter, Nelson, TPE and future picks</p><p> </p><p> for</p><p> </p><p> Paul, Peja, Oakfur or Posey.</p><p> </p><p> This would rid the Hornets of some crappy contracts while keeping them contenders next year with two guys who started of a 59 win team and two Big Men, plus future picks.</p><p> </p><p> Magic could then trade Redick, Anderson, and maybe Shard (it's been rumored for a week now) to Utah for Boozer and Kirlenko</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Ah, how I love offseason trade rumors <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I actually like the second deal more than the first...but I think the Magic would actually be improved just by starting a real PF (either Bass or Gortat) next to Dwight and running more of a traditional offense and cut down on those 3s. </p><p> </p><p> I agree Paul would be a no-brainer, but you're taking back a lot of flotsam and jetsam in that scenario to make it work.</p>
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So I am lost, why do people believe the 2010 free agent class is the best ever?
My boss and I were talking about this and he believes the 2010 class is the best, because it could change the NBA for years. I came back with "What about 96, you don't believe that class couldn't have or did? You have Shaq who made LA viable again, Jordan, Reggie Miller, Juwan Howard, Tim Hardaway, Dennis Rodman, Sprewell, Horace Grant, Dikembe Mutumbo, Allan Houston, and Kenny Anderson."
Juwan Howard is the first player in the NBA to sign a 100 million dollar contract.
he still believes that the 2010 is better and that's cool with me, I just don't see it to me.
The simple answer is that people/the media cover everything as if everything today is the greatest thing ever.
I think the reason the 96 season isn't as 'memorable' is because not many marquee players actually changed teams. Shaq was a HUGE deal but there were just as many historically bad deals signed (Juwan, Houston, Jim McIlvaine) as any big movements. So that sort of detracts from it.
To be fair, 2010 is going to be a lot of empty hype unless James or Wade move to different teams.
So we'll see..decades from now no one will be looking back at 2010 and talking wistfully about Drew Gooden and Steve Blake signing new deals
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Is it official, I have been told that it hinges on Lebron and that even when July 8th hits a formal contract won't be given. Only until after the Lebron situation will it be.
EDIT: NVM I guess it is official
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/news/story?id=5356502
Well it's being reported as being 'official' but the deadlines and whatnot mean nothing can be signed for a few days.
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In pro sports ownership, you can't just gloss over that fact.
I would say that you're overstating how bad these owners are.
Look, we don't really know if these teams are losing as much money as they say they are (if any). And there's a HUGE difference between 'a bad contract' and gross negligence.
If you're going to dummy proof the league and the cap rules, then you might as well take away all control from the teams and just allow the league office make all roster decisions.
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I'd say that's part of the job description of the commish.
And I'd disagree
The cap is meant to ensure competitive balance. The loopholes are there so that teams have some flexibility when it comes to signing players.
But after that..barring some kind of gross incompetence or intentional negligence, I'm not going to agree with the idea that "hey we need to change the cap rules/CBA because the owners are too dumb to control themselves."
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I never said the owners were at fault either. I stated the fact that the cap structure is so messed up is a reason why teams like Cavs, Magic, Heat and others who win can still lose money during a season. They can spend money to make sure they win and make deep runs in the playoffs, yet it still affects their income to do so.
I never said owners weren't stupid with money, so get over it Peter.
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I'm sorry ..still don't really understand your point.
It's the league's job to protect the owners from themselves?
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LOL Hawks. Same goes to whatever team offers Amare Stoudemire a max deal.
This.
Plus the Bucks just gave Drew Gooden a 5 year, $32 million deal and the TWolves gave darko a 4 year $20 million deal.
THAT'S why i find it so hard to listen to anyone who wants to blame the "cap structure" for the financial troubles of some of these teams.
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What's going on?
Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff are not backstage at the TNA Impact taping in Orlando. No word on why they aren't there.
Credit: PWInsider
DUN DUN DUN!
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Ratings are back to where they were before the move to Mondays. Which is pretty damn good considering they've been going up against the NBA.
Quality wise, in my opinion for the last year or two, Impact has been pretty quality. Then again, I'm not a pretentious cynic like the majority of wrestling "fans".
Yeah, you are. You're pretentious cynicism comes out every time you talk about the WWE
In terms of recent history, TNA has been pretty solid since about two weeks before the move back to Thursdays. The stoylines are still paced incredibly quickly (which leads to a lot of rushed heel/face turns) but it's not a total clusterf*** like when Hogan first came aboard.
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He should do the announcement wrestling style:
Lebron James walks to the podium. After a few tearful words, he announces that he's staying at home with his friends and family. Lebron James has re-signed signed with Cleveland!!!
Cleveland owner Dan Gilbert appears from the crowd and hands Lebron a jersey. but just as Lebron is about to put the jersey on...
JR: BAHGAWD IT'S D-WADE AND CHRIS BOSH!!!
'Welcome to Miami' plays and the two stars walk down the aisle towards the podium. The are accompanied by Pat Riley, wearing a blonde and black beard/fu-macnhu moustache combo
JR: BUSINESS IS ABOUT TO PICK UP!
Gilbert and Riley begin trading insults..when out of nowhere...LEBRON BLASTS DAN GILBERT WITH A STEEL CHAIR!!!
Lebron steps into the aisle, throws the Cavs jersey aways, takes off his dress shirt and...HE WAS WEARING A HEAT JERSEY THE WHOLE TIME!!!
JR: DAMMMMNNN YOU LEBRON!! DAMMMNN YOU TO HELLLLL!!!