PeterHilton

Well no..obviously the overall product is more important than the individual quarter hour rating and who was on screen at that time. If the show sucsk, all the quarters will be low regardless of who's on screen..but if that's how networks look at that show...

It's how the industry loks at TV numbers. Even if you don't agree (and I don't think they're entirely 100% reliable) it's something you can't ignore entirely Also...if the quarter hours showed Benoit wasn't a draw, I'm not exactly sure that's proof they're 'wrong' per se. Benoit as a draw was very..meh.

It would be hard to prove that, and a little unfair since Pope's segment was noticeably longer. Love the Pope. Hope this doesn't reflect negatively on him (IIRC Raw had Christian/Dibiase during that quarter hour so it's hard to explain)

You're making a decent point, but like you said, it's nitpicky: Here are the quarter hour breakdowns Too bad about the Pope..but the argument that Raw won so handily because of HBK's retirement seems wrong since the rating for TNA actually went up while Shawn was doing his farewell address.

I tuned into Dancing with the Stars last night JUST so I could see Adam. Good stuff. Big fan of both guys. As for Swagger, I'll say the same thing I said with Sheamus: his talent won't matter and how good a move this is will be determined by how it's booked. Sheamus' title run did nothing for him (he's looked better and gotten more over in the feud with Trips than with anything that happened while he had the strap) and if Swagger is booked in the same way - wins over midcarders and nobodies, running away from confrontations, holding onto your belt against big names through flukey count-outs and DQs - this title win won't mean anything either. I'm hoping they play up his athleticism and wrestling acumen.

That's actually a bad sign. Networks schedule commercial breaks during the last 10-15 minutes of a TV show only if they know you will stay tuned in.

This is another one of those cases where you live in a different version of reality than I do. First, Masters was AWFUL. God AWFUL. In the ring and on the mic. Just a total botchfest. Secondly, he was nowhere near over. He was given months and months of time with the Masterlock challenge, was put into a program with HBK and Cena off the bat, and yet everytime he talked the crowd completely turned on him. He got X-Pac heat. The only person who was less over than him at the time was Rob Conway. I have no idea what you were watching if you thought he was 'fairly over' He wasn't getting booed as a heel. People wanted him off TV.

The number, length, and timing of commercial breaks is usually set up by the network.

I understand your point, but you responded to my post by saying "so 0.9 is not close to a 1.0" And again..it wasn't a 0.9. And again..it wasn't close. The difference between a 0.86 and 1.0 is several tens of thousands of viewers. Those 0.1's mean something in TV terms.

It wasn't a 0.9. It was a 0.86. Rounding up is for people who don't understand TV ratings. (so no, even if it were a 0.9 it wouldn't be close to a 1.0)

Wow..there goes your credibility. lol

More than watchable. Last night's episode was really good and the few weeks before that were definitely above average But like you said..really bad timing. The booking was really bad in the months before..but other than a few nitpicky things, last night's show was well booked. Ummm..you'd be off. It raises slightly when it's live, but it hasn't been "close to 1.0" in a month.

Yeah, I was about to say...when was the last time you had a dominant heel in the E? One of my biggest gripes is that they turn every heel, no matter their look or character, into the typical 'cowardly heel.' Used to bug the crap out of me...couldn;t stand watching guys like Angle and Jericho (especially Angle) scurry away from Cena at every confrontation. Trips as The Game and Lesnar never get over in the WWE with the way main event heels are booked right now.

I agreed with almost everything you said til you said this. Red's not in his league. Not even close. Rey in his prime in WCW wrestles circles around Red.

I have to disagree if only because the the top performers AREN'T all faces. Jericho and Punk have been stellar, and I know you're not excited about him but Dave is doing his best work in years since turning heel. Orton can't be heel...not with the current product. He's just getting too many pops from the crowd.

Batista?

Sarcasm not really big in your parts?

THAT was a really good episode of Raw.

Yup. like I said, you stick him back in the E and let him work THIS gimmick (which seems like a natural extension of his personality) and the only person who sniffs his potential is Morrison.

Orton is INSANELY over. Have him beat Batista and Cena in a three way and you could ride his popularity to damn near Summerslam.

Little disappointed by this match tonight but I agree with you on Wolfe and Dinero Matter off act...Vince & Co have to be kicking themselves for not letting Dinero do this with the E. His character could've been PG pretty easy and if you put him in Killings place on SD you would've had ten times the return...he's younger, a better wrestler, a bettter promo, and he can work as a heel where the 'hip-hoppy' thing doesn't transition well to the bad guy thing. The screwed that up big time. Put Dinero on the WWE roster and he's the most talented 'young guy' in the company.

HA! Everything you say is 50% lies while all thommohawk speaks is the truth! If you don't think so you weren't paying attention. Who knows where you got that pciture from. It could be any black guy with glasses...Malcolm X..Raj from What's Happening..Junkyard Dog (in glasses)..ANYONE!

Impossible. He's a rock star. A JOE SIGHTING!

Everything Lethal does is pure gold.

HAHA..Swagger was tremendous!