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I loved the NBA players segment, I get what Goldie is for. He is the presentation factor for UFC.

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Here is the biggest question for the C's win or lose do you bring back Ray Allen next year? I say yes, just at a much reduced price. He is consistent shooter who is going to knock down high 40% of his shots. Thing that scares me about the C's after this year though is their age.

Always hated how one fighter could destroy the other, but because he can't stop a takedown the judges rule against him Also another thing I hated that Joe said was about Brilz and how he could be apart of the future of the Light Heavyweight divison...... Joe he's 35......

He didn't sign an extension, he just accepted his player option (I use the sense that an extension is a new contract) and tried to get traded but no one could take on his 12 million dollars. Houston performed for the first two years of the deal just failed the rest . I believe the Thunder could be a player for Lee at 27 coming off a year which he did 20ppg and 11rpg he'd be a welcome addition. Good thing for the Thunder is after this season coming up they only have 3 million on there cap (they have more, but they'd have to execpt options and sign players. which they will no doubt). They then could sign free agents to join their team and then sign their guys afterwards and have a nice set team. I like the Thunder if they could get a big man (Bosh, Lee or Amire) they could compete with the Lakers year in and year out for the number 1 spot in the west.

yeah I don't think either of us care, I believe we were just stating (to each other) who we believed are guys who deserve to get max deals. I have never understood why you come into conversations and start spewing out the mouth something we never mentioned. I believe we both know GM are going to be dumb and give out max deals to make sure they get their guy. CQ brought up the fact he believes the Max is meant for certain people and then I gave my list of who I thought were Max guys. Not for you to run in like a damn chicken with his head cut off talking about why guys get max deals. when Vince Carter gets a max deal and someone goes "What the hell were the Nets thinking" then you can come in with your knowledge CQI13 He's not a max player guy (much like Boozer and Bosh). Still, they'll get their money somehow. His best bet would be a sign and trade, or he loses a bunch of money (the team you play for is the one that can give you the most money, right?). But then, Phoenix is stuck with someone equal or lesser than Amar'e for the same money. Letting him walk would upset Nash (they got this far this year, but I don't think he'd want to rebuild). What..... no way...... CQ already said what you felt you needed to comment on, very interesting.

you mean brand, which I can agree with. The year before he signed the contract his numbers had dropped and a shoulder injury the first year of the contract didn't help.

Tracy at one point was a max deal guy. J. O'Neal just went downhill and quick but there is also a difference between Max Deal and Team Max deal. Also when did the 76ers over pay Miller? I don't ever remember him getting a contract from them, at least not max.

lmao, well they pay for his paycheck

okay, then I will continue to listen to Rogan . Most of the time me and a friend just mute it and talk ourselves.

Okay so to you there are only three max guys in the NBA (LeBron, Kobe, and Wade?) Also think about when Gilbert got the deal he was one year removed from scoring 28pg, 6 AST, and 4RB. Now he knee injuries caught up to him, but there is no doubt he could still put numbers like that up (depending on if he plays again). Once again Amire is a 20ppg 9Rpg type of guy (IMHO) all three are worth max deal. (granted Arenas I am dating back to when the contract was given to him not now) Here are players (to me) who are max guys Lebron James D. Wade C. Bosh D. Howard S. Nash K. Bryant K. Durant C. Paul D. Williams (10 apg + 18 ppg) C. Anthony T. Duncan A. Stoudemire R. Rondo (Young, improved each year, and against the cavs looked like the best player on the court) D. Rose (young but getting better each year, plus what he has done in the playoffs) D. Lee (the sleeper in this year's free agent class) D. Nowitzki

They need a host which Rogan gives (remember he did Fear Factor). I think there is a difference between host and broadcaster. Broadcaster is someone who tells you things like who won. Host give you insight and inform you on different aspects (like Rogan) he entertains the crowd while giving facts and explaining things. Rogan plus a fighter would make a great team. I Love Stephan Quadros though. But also if we are going to get a fighter as an annoucer I want someone who isn't going to pull punches. I hate when Rogan and Goldberg say "Fighter A is really tearing into Fighter B" when fighter A isn't really landing anything big and B is blocking most of it. For example (now I am doing this from the best of memory so I could be mistaken) Rampage vs Evans, Evans rocked Rampage, but they don't talk about how Rampage didn't fall, wasn't knocked out, and didn't lose compsure. He got rocked and lost his footing, but when Rampage rocked Evans all it is was "Ohh, Evans took a shot".......... okay so you are saying Rampage got rocked and Evan's was just a shot I just hate how they get on one guys side and make him look dominate. Then what happens is the average joe listens to this and they take that guys side. Then if there is a difference on the scorecard than Rogan and Goldberg's people question it and go... "Hey, but, how, Joe and Mike said it was fighter B who won, not A" I can see why a lot of people got pissed at Nog, personally I thought it was a good matchup that could have gone either way. Like I said though, the average Joe listens to Mike and Joe and think Brilz dominated all three rounds and should have one 30-27.

They could get a trade exempt. for him. Similar to the Magic last year with Hedo, you trade a player for money pretty much to use in another trade. Problem is I don't know how it works, how you get one, or if the team the Suns would trade would have one (Magic have one ). I do know it only last a year. Also I agree with Boozer not being a max guy, but you don't see Bosh as a max guy? He's 26 (wont be 27 till March of next year), he's a double digit guy (20 points and 10 rebounds) and his numbers imrpove every year. He's a high % type of guy who can shoot the 3 and make FT. You put him and Howard on the same team you're talking about the Twin Towers all over again. I think Bosh is a def. max type of player (IMHO)

I just think someone with MMA experience (who has fought in a UFC fight or 2) would be better. I think (IMO) that Rogan and Goldberg both at times will say things to make one fight look better than then other. But a real fighter (once again some who has fought in the ring) would be able to explain it better. So even if they added a thrid announcer to the team to more explain what Fighter A is feeling right now and what his next move should be or what Fighter B is doing (etc.) Would be more entertaining then a comedian and show host (and yes I know Rogan has a brown belt in BJJ, and a Black in Taekwondo)

Can someone explain to me why M. Goldberg is an announcer for MMA? Listening to the announcing of all PPV it's pretty much Rogean talking and Goldberg at the end just restating what Joe said. I always hoped the would replace Mike with a true MMA former fighter and let Joe be the host.

uhh, I don't think he'd have a problem with that part http://i951.photobucket.com/albums/ad360/Flashman_album/misc/tigerbolt-Hot_20dogs_20and_20beer_s.jpg But I agree, I think it is nearly impossible to compare players of different gens. to each other. I just think Ruth was probably the best (all-around hitter) of all-time. 3rd in HR's (cough Bonds) 10th in batting 2nd in RBI's 1st in Slugging % 2nd OBP% 1st OPS% 4th in runs 6th in Total Bases 3rd in BB

Did you mean Carter? Carter had better stats then Hedo did, he had a higher FG% then the last two years Hedo was with the Magic and a better FT% as well. (the 3 was only of by 1%). I didn't understand how Carter was the best Offensive weapon for the Magic game 1,2,3 and 6 but couldn't score in 4 and 5 our only 2 wins.

Along with clutch doesn't composure come into play. Carter has show he's been clutch in the past games. You could say he lost his composure shooting the two FT. Composure plays just a big of a factor as anything. QB lose composure and Pitchers lose it, so wouldn't composure be an add on with clutch?

lol I was talking about as a pitcher, as a hitter he probably have better stats, babe Ruth was probably all around the best hitter in baseball history. He had a high average (believe in the top 20 in baseball history) great power (in an age where parks were much bigger) his only problem was he wasn't truely and athlete just to big and couldn't run well.

C's have been the best team in the east for three years now. the reason the magic got passed them last year was because of the simple fact that KG wasn't in the lineup. That means Orlando us still 2 and Cavaliers 3. The key to the magic offense is Howard, he has an offensive game (granted not where it should be for all the hype people give him). When teams are forced to double team Howard it allows for the quick passes to one of the open men on the perimeter But hands down C's proved they were the better team and no not because hedo wasn't there.

lol different time, how would he fair now? Remember most pitcher stats back then are better than those of todays, pitchera aren't pitching every three days and now have a pitch count. Plus we were talking about hitting not who can do the most, silly rabbit lmao (jk bhk)

The house that ruth built use to be bigger (many forget those black stands had people in them and the legends park and statues were in the field of play). Homeruns are sexy it's what people want. Also I hate when people say this player is one of the best ever. How can you compare B. Ruth to A. Pojuls? Babe played less games a year, he played in bigger ball parks. I think when people compare players to others of different times you have to take fact of this.

was that to me? I didn't argue about clutch. Clutch does exist, think Brady, Kobe, the shot Lebron made last year against the magic to win or send it to overtime. Maybe what he means by clutch is it doesn't exist because anyone can be clutch? but you'd have to ask him that one.

Also last thing, people who say Hedo not being there was the difference for the Magic I give some points 1) We won 7 more games in the regular season this year 2) Magic only gave up one more point per game on average than last year 4) Our points per game went up by one this season 3) The C's vs Magic last year went 7 games with the Magic winning game 7 up there in 09 playoffs. KG didn't play in that series.

That and the fact the Clippers have pretty much sucked. Lately I give it to them for spending money, but they still have a crap load of holes plus horrible coaching. A better example could have been the Wiz (a couple years ago) vs the Lakers Wiz just didn't hit key shots (like the magic this year and finals last year) it really hurts not having a clutch player.