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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Stennick" data-cite="Stennick" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="26724" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Jeff Weaver, Joel Pinero, Brad Penny (so far), even guys like Jeff Suppan and Woody Williams performed above and beyond their average career stats for us. <p> </p><p> Thats not to say we've not had our failures Mark Mulder was an expensive and huge one.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Mark's biggest thing is the thing that happens to all A's pitchers, they are used as race horses until they hit the 6 years and there arms have been used then they are casted off. Zito seems to be just hitting form again, Hudson has battled injuries as had Harden, and Mulder couldn't fight back from them</p><p> </p><p> A's are like the Dodgers of the 80-90's trading away top talent that ended up not really being that good of talent for better players (not saying those four pitcher were useless)</p><p> </p><p> Mark did nicely for you his first year if I remember right, until the injuries hit</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="SHaynes23" data-cite="SHaynes23" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="26724" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>In the first one I was talking about a season series, not a postseason. LaRussa's big philosophy is not huge streaks, but just make sure you get 2 of 3 from every series you play. With our pitchers going at the rate they are now, there isn't a good chance that a team will take many series from us throughout the year. And it's never too early to look forward to the playoffs, that's the ultimate goal, and that's what this years team is built for, a better playoff showing than they had last season.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> only thing that worries me about Carp is the arm, it's been hurt twice before and you always hold your breathe when he pitches hoping such a talented player doesn't get hurt again</p><p> </p><p> But Cards always seem to find a pitcher if one of theirs gets hurt, think of Jeff Weaver a couple years ago</p>

<p>why is it with New York media always paints there teams to be in trouble when really everything is fine?</p><p> </p><p> Holmes gets in trouble but everyone is reporting it's just a simple misunderstaning, but New York media makes it sound horrible</p><p> </p><p> Sanchez wont be back till June, But New York media makes it sound horrible</p><p> </p><p> Giants need a WR even though Steve Smith, Manningham, and Nicks did a very good job this year</p><p> </p><p> Jets are the bad boys...... well yes but that's just cuz they wanted to get better.</p><p> </p><p> They remind me of the Hurricanes, they sucked then started getting the right players (even though their past history isn't the best) and became champions lol</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Stennick" data-cite="Stennick" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="26724" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Carp went seven innings pitched, TWO hits, and 8 K's. He's started out the season 4-0, meanwhile Wainwright is 4-1. <p> </p><p> Wainwright - 4-1, 38 IP, (7.6 avg per start), 2.13 ERA, average of 5 hits per game. </p><p> </p><p> Carp - 4-0, 2.84 ERA, 6 1/2 IP avg, 4 hit average per game, </p><p> </p><p> In short with talk of Linceum and Cain, or any other one two rotation punch in baseball Wainwright and Carp deserve some respect. They came in 2 and 3 in Cy Young voting last year and this year they have picked up where they left off.</p><p> </p><p> Meanwhile Rasmus is tearing the cover off the ball and Freese has finally found a stroke with 3 homeruns in this last homestand. Ryan's defense is sick, Schu should be finding his swing any time now.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> lol i would have thrown in Penny and Garcia as well as they have pitched even better than those two lol</p><p> </p><p> but I believe that th Cards, Rays, and Yanks hold the top three rotations. the Red Sox have shown that you can have three top of the line starters but with out some run support and defense (that they said they fixed) it doesn't mean much, I don't care that Jacob and Cam are hurt, you should be able to find people who defense wise can hold over tell they get better.</p><p> </p><p> This is shaping up to be one of the best MLB seasons in awhile</p>

I am so happy, the Rays have the best record in baseball and they offense, pitching, and defense are all clicking...... heck even pat burrell is hitting

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5151435 Lol something tells me The Jets are going to be the bad boys of the NFL

so you want Tony Romo?

I was sitting at my favorite pizza place today, eating a nice pie, when a rather large woman walks in with her two husky kids and demands another pie be made because this one was no good Now, if the food is bad then I agree you should have it remade no charge, but when you eat the whole thing then complain, sit down and shut up That really grinds my gears

My only thing is, i never truly thought they were good QB's. (similar to Dilfer) they knew how to mange and game, could make a play every know and then, but relied on Defense and a good run game to win. Both Bradshaw and Namath had either more INT's than TD's or were right there with it But they were great showman, and knew how to control the game. but in today's game, they would be considered as a Trent Dilfer type of player, mange, control, handoff, let the D play great and keep the score close

Bradshaw and Namath both barely had 50% compl. so are you saying you wouldn't take them on your team if given the chance between them and Romo???

thanks for explaining that, I figured it had to be that, but wasn't for sure. I just always thought Rogers was cut because he couldn't stay away from injuries and the law problems came afterwards, plus Rogers failed a drug test all four years in college, so it's kind of like you should have known type of thing And that is odd, early this offseason it was talking how Russell lost all this weight and know he is huge, hell move him to O-Line or D-Line see if he can play there:D Also I know people say Leaf was the biggest bust ever, but i'd have to go with Russell, with the contract and all the hype. Leaf's biggest problem (besides being a diva) was injuries, Russell's biggest problem is weight. I hope he bounces back.... but i doubt it

I have an interesting question. Falcons got money back from Vick, Lions got money back from Charles Rogers, and the court decided that the teams should recoup some money. So here is the question, isn't it about time some of the judges hold these teams responsible? Hey ATL didn't have to give VICK that entire bonus, but they did and they paid the price, Rogers was a rookie who busted for the Lions and never finished. My whole thing is, if you are going to give players this big money, who have to weigh the cons to it, these two teams didn't and judges helped them, but IMHO believe it's time for the judges to hold the teams responsible for this

i cant wait to see how J. Cunningham does for them, not as talented as Dunlap but still very productive. Also they got two steals in Spikes and TE Aaron H. Aaron dropped for the fact of not going to the combine, and Spike was considered a top 15 pick last year and 1st rounder this year, but a horrible 40 time dropped him, I still expect both of them to produce for that team

personally I think they should make it more travel friendly, but that's me You have teams like Marlins playing Mets and Phil's and teams like Texas playing in the West. It could be good for baseball but bad at the same time, a lot of New York and Boston player/fans live in Tampa, in return it helps in attendance for those some odd games

if you're jimmy clausen you really hate McNabb right now lmao probably lost 30 million gaur. plus another 50 million I wonder how the Panthers handle his contract, maybe low base pay with high reward?

love the fact Gruden dropped the dumb*** and they picked on Mel's hair lmfao

wow big Z to the pen. this is truly interesting, he now his the highest RP and isn't even the closer, smart move? I don't know even with Lilly coming back this is still hard, you pretty much are giving up on him as a starter but not making him the closer. He's been a reliable starter even last year when he struggled he posted a 3.77 ERA which is about his avg. (3.56) I guess the biggest thing I don't get is he's truly only had one bad game (the season opener) and besides that just pitched his best game giving up only 2 ER's over 6 innings I just don't understand this move and persoanlly think they just want to get rid of him, either that or Sweet Lou is losing his mind Edit: remember how I said Joe Maddon doesn't make sense sometimes, well tonight against the White Sox's Wade Davis is pitching a gem, and has 86 pitches through 6, but pulls him even though we are up 12-0, doesn't make sense to me, why not let him go into the 7 and see what happens...... oh god what if he gives up one runs but finishes the 7, oh my god, the horror

personally I can't wait till the draft I am a Bucs fan (from Tampa and have always been a hometown guy even when they lose) and I hope Rams go Bradford, Lions Okung. But the thing I love about comparing Suh to McCoy was is everything But mainly when people bring in Stats. they do 4 years Suh to 3 years McCoy, and it's like why not do three three But I also love how both are being compared to Warren Sapp, and my one thing is Sapp was a monster, but one thing that made him great was size, speed, and strength. Sapp had some of the fastest hands I have ever seen at the position and would do "what in Tampa we call" the Ghost smack. Pretty much when he popped up and the lineman would go to block, Sapp smacked his hands away and had the O-lineman off balance, being then able to colapse the pocket Suh has Sapp's traits of speed, size, and strength, but McCoy has those hands that remind me of Sapp, either way this could get interesting Personally I hope both are gone by the third and the Bucs trade down and collect more high picks

might get traded..... hm Rams?? he is still young, and him and jackson with the improving o-line and a deep WR class might be a good move for them

I agree. I believe karma plays a part (espically players who hold out for huge contracts) But at the same time, I remember talking to a business man once and he told me that the biggest problems with players is, their need to have top things and going into certain ventures to make more money and how it often times fails more then profits. He told me if they would just take half the salary they made through their career and put it away ( so you make 10 mil through your career put 5 mil away) and let interest grow on it, you could live a nice life the rest of your life, your house would be paid off, you could get a new car every 5 years, you would live nicely but the problem is players don't do this, they spend carelessly

I'll have to find the article, but I did read somewhere once that within four years of retirement, players (all four big sports) are bankrupt

Bills have a good secondary though

im just saying, you never know with the Yanks, plus the mets don't lose either way cuz Carlos Pena will probably hit the market, but he could be another guy the yanks target. they still need help in the DH position as well as LF (please don't do it Carl Crawford)

Thomas Jones: 2 years, 5 million http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4980364 LT: 2 years, 5.1 million, maybe up to 5.6 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4994748 So Jones is cheaper, after looking at everthing I agree it was smart to cut him, for the money, but I read on ESPN after he signed that he took that same deal to the Jets and they refused And it's not a man crush, it's the fact that LT is coming off his worst year, while Jones just hit his best year, he knows the system and if you are worried about him tiring out......... then why the **** would you sign LT? Jones has 600 less carries, and is just .3 yards under what LT avg. for his career per rush. And Jamaal Charles isn't unproven, he had a monster season last year, Greene is the unproven one if anything So now you can say it's an upgrade at the position, but is it an upgrade in production? But we will have to wait until after this season is over, it's the only way we will figure out

not with the broke down Lexus in the shop..... lmao sorry I had to, im still a believer Jones will do better this year than LT and at a cheaper price