Hyde Hill

Source PWI: Hmm methinks a certain company might be (re)debuting some wrestlers soon.

Then I would rather move Morrison to Smackdown lolz. Anyway I understand your points and hope you understand mine. Not that it matters as we have to see how everything pans out.

Because he is closer in terms of overness to those guys as opposed to the RAW crowd. Although now that Edge has moved and Jericho is gone it has gotten less. But with Nexus vs/+ Cena and Orton vs Sheamus and Miz vs Bryan being the top three stories atm Punk would slot in at no4 (and don't forget trips). On Smackdown there is really only one story atm and others are taking shape like Rey vs Del Rio and Edge vs Swagger. Add into that past precedent with guys moving to RAW and getting lost who where doing well on Smackdown.

Maybe or he will get lost in the shuffle.

Paraphrased from Bisch's facebook. "Talentless johnny come lately expletive" When asked by a fan about Vampiro.

In Cide's case. And Being an original or most identified with tna =/ same thing imho. Sorry I did not make that clear.

As he has had his greatest exposure as part of TNA. If you put: "been there from the beginning" as a rule then you rule out a lot of talent.

I know I know hehe:p

Agreed. I thought Edge moving back didn't need a return trade as they moved so many guys out because of the tv deal ending and now with the new SyFy era having started they moved Edge back. I would sooner see someone move to Smackdown from RAW then the other way around. Especially once trips returns. Edit: hope this didn't pain you to read saba:p

That last part was his own fault to eaygrat. On Stennick's point yeah I agree that is why in the end I move towards "Originals" vs "Originals" and both trying to dominate the company. No more holding down talk but we rule talk. Also note that I always put "Originals" in parenthesis as it is really in the eye of the beholder. To me Angle is as much TNA as E now for instance. So to an extant was Christian Cage. Morgan and D'Inero definitely so.

Not only was he hit hard he decided to take care of the family that was left after that passing. Monty's first and second E theme song was so so bad.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="masterded" data-cite="masterded" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Wake me up, Wake me Up!</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> *Throws bucket of water on masterded's face*</p><p> </p><p> That help?</p>

That or Cena getting out from under them ala Michaels.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="ampulator" data-cite="ampulator" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Everyone uses old ideas. Yes. But TNA had a good thing going focuses on a more modern-style product that had.... HAS.... a better chance of something different from WWE. I sometimes hear from TNA fans: "this isn't wrestling, this is SPORTS ENTERTAINMENT". Not all of them say this (or agree), but that aggravates me. If TNA's goal is to be ECW, WCW, or WWE, it's never going to get anywhere. Trying to be something it can't won't work. <p> </p><p> TNA has potential, it's just extremely mismanaged.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Ok if you put it like that I semi-agree. Just gotten sick of the TNA steels ideas, TNA just rehashes bs you see in a lot of other places.</p><p> </p><p> In TEW terms TNA definitely has Mainstream set to key just as the E and their goal is to become mainstream. TNA just differ too much on what they put as heavy and medium, with many TNA supporters wanting that being modern.</p>

<p>Everyone uses old ideas.</p><p> </p><p> And as we don't know who "They" are and what shape or form it is going to take it is kinda hard to judge that it is "just" a "rehash".</p><p> </p><p> Hogan/Sting dynamic yeah that is but not to address their past would have been weird as well. They have gone too far with it though for my tastes.</p><p> </p><p> And is anyone lauding? We can only judge that once there is pay-off. So far I am around 50/50 on the good and bad balance of the Hogan and Bisch regime. If "They" flops in my eyes it would put them in the negative.</p>

Vampiro is a definite no no as long as Bisch is around. Bisch hates his guts. Still a AAA/lucha invasion as They is possible, just read someone post on facebook that Mistico is unhappy with CMLL if that is true he is a must sign imho. Dude would pay for himself with Merch and better Mexican tv and ppv deals.

<p>This might be a retread but still.</p><p> </p><p> What does everyone hope "They" is/are?</p><p> </p><p> What does everyone think "They" is/are?</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Chris Harris hasn't tweeted since September 24th. So, either he deleted it or you're following a fake Chris Harris account.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Or you are lolz. Anyway it doesn't matter much.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Celt" data-cite="The Celt" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>If what Hyde Hill idea happens I'd be somewhat dissapointed. I mean, just how many times can you portray your home-grown talent as heels? It's a bit sickening.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Actually I kinda like it and eventually the storyline will be home grown vs home grown which is the true evolution so to speak.</p>

<p>Had one of my Q's answered by Bischoff on his monthly MondayNightMayhem Q and A. Excellent. The question was on the ranking system and if it would be brought back and improved post BFG. Short answer Yes to both. Otherwise wait till tomorrow and you can download it from their site.</p><p> </p><p> <a href="http://www.mondaynightmayhem.com/" rel="external nofollow">http://www.mondaynightmayhem.com/</a></p><p> </p><p> My name will be Hidde Gaastra (real name). And the interviewer will apologize for the pronunciation.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="crownsy" data-cite="crownsy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I think that has to be about what the thought, though i'm sure they hoped it would pull a 2.<p> </p><p> But considering the "star" show with the big draws drew a 2.7 on a monday, They can't complain that it drew a 1.7 on a friday, which is traditionally not a good drawing night with it being the first night of the weekend.</p><p> </p><p> The only concerning thing ive seen is that Vince wants Smackdown to be more "entertainment based" since it's on a major network like raw. </p><p> </p><p> I watch smackdown because it's not like raw and more wrestling first, entertainment added in.</p><p> </p><p> Not looking forward to all smackdown's matches being 2 minutes long with a cheap finish because they want to get another plug/promo in.</p><p> </p><p> hopefully they will let smackdown keep a bit of it's identity as the "ring work" show i think it was developing, Taker-Kane fued aside.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Well Smackdown's 52 week low was a 1.6 and high a 2.2. So with it being on a better network, a live show and a "debut" show I think that a 1.7 is lower then expectations.</p><p> </p><p> rating's source:</p><p> </p><p> <a href="http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/columns/155465/The-Hamilton-Ave-Journal-09.30.10:-Volume-2-%E2%80%93-Issue-157.htm" rel="external nofollow">http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/columns/155465/The-Hamilton-Ave-Journal-09.30.10:-Volume-2-%E2%80%93-Issue-157.htm</a></p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="MasterJ" data-cite="MasterJ" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I read raw got a 2.3 from PWI</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That was wrong as that was the total population rating and not the household rating which is the one that matters and is used.</p>

<p>Source TNasylum. So Rumour just as the Torch:</p><p> </p><p> News on who "they" aren't and BFG</p><p> A TNAsylum source believes that they definitely is NOT Hulk Hogan, Eric Bischoff or Jeff Jarrett. The identity of "they" has been planned out since Abyss starting mentioning it in his promos. Furthermore it is believed that Bischoff and Hogan will be turning heel with Sting, Nash and Pope actually being the faces in this storyline. Very few people know anything about when Hogan, Bischoff, Sting, Jarrett and company make references to WCW. </p><p> </p><p> Furthermore, TNA believes it will do a good buyrate compared the the rest of their PPVs this year. One of the main reasons is because TNA was counting on Hulk Hogan returning to the ring but unfortunately due to back issues, that may not be happening. A replacement will likely be booked on Impact this week if Hogan isn't able to compete.</p><p> </p><p> Posted by Talon.</p>

<p>Excellent I am still hoping for an "Originals" group.</p><p> </p><p> Still hope my senario plays out. </p><p> </p><p> 10/7 Sting makes clear he suspects that Hogan and Bischoff are trying to take over from Dixie and has some "proof" eg the deception/them storyline. </p><p> </p><p> 10/10 Post Sting/Nash/Pope vs Hogan/Jarrett/Joe, after Joe turns on Jarrett, Hogan and takes out Nash and Sting and walks away to give Pope the pin, Abyss's "They" appear incognito and lay waste to Sting, Nash, Hogan and Jarrett. </p><p> </p><p> Post Lethal Lockdown and Fourtune win. "They" lay waste to EV2.0 </p><p> </p><p> "They" interfere in RVD vs Abyss costing RVD the win. </p><p> </p><p> After the title match Abyss comes out and "They" reveal themselves to be TNA originals and Joe. </p><p> </p><p> Post BFG </p><p> </p><p> 1. "They" lay waste to some of the minor and midcard faces and heels in TNA and Joe makes clear "They" where the ones that abducted him. OJ and Terry and Sharky etc are eliminated never to be seen again. </p><p> </p><p> 2. In light of "They" and Fourtune dominating and Hogan being out, Bischoff convinces Dixie to hand him full control to deal with it. </p><p> </p><p> 3. Fourtune realises Flair is the only old guy left and turn on him but Fourtune remains heelish. </p><p> </p><p> 4. Sting returns and claims Hogan and Bischoff are behind "They". Bischoff claims innocence. </p><p> </p><p> 5. It is revealed Bischoff is in cahoots with "They" and "They" now dominate TNA. Question is what side is Hogan on? </p><p> </p><p> 6. Hogan comes back and is revealed to not be on the side of "They". </p><p> </p><p> 7. Hogan's attempts to stop "They" with the help from veterans and other faces fails. </p><p> </p><p> 8. Hogan turns to Fourtune as a last resort and convinces them he really wants to help and that Fourtune is the premiere group in TNA etc etc. </p><p> </p><p> 9. Fourtune turn face leading to Fourtune vs "They". </p><p> </p><p> Done. Although I can go on.</p>

Dalles Texas according to Wiki. Also of note last years main event DX vs Legacy. Man the roster has changed. 1 permanently gone, one semi gone and other 2 split up and different gimmicks and down the card.