Hyde Hill

HoooYah!

Just to make it clear that was not my suggestion just the one of the most obvious option the E could go for.

According to TNAsylum Sky has confirmed that the most popular BRAVO programs will be moved to other SKY channels, including TNA Impact. Good news for the UK fans and TNA.

Credit PWI. Start dusting off those resumes and start applying!. Would love it if they ran an online competition for one of the spots. The IWC would explode.

Even-though a lot of people are not fans of TNA's current product, like me, I would advise everyone to see the guns vs bucks empty arena fight/match reaction style. Part1 part 2 Such a shame it remains. TNA does and has so much good it just gets mired by all the bs. BTW I do think the reports of TNA's financial troubles are exaggerated. Dixie's mom is just helping out with the finances as Panda has done in the past and the belt isn't too expensive. PS the rumours about Dixie's mom came before the belt. PPS Ugly Belt but it fits Hardy and the Storyline. Shouldn't have trashed the old one though simply replaced it.

How about the most unoriginal one possible? They make it that Cena is fired from RAW so he shows up on Smackdown to boost the ratings there at their new home. Cena vs Edge and Kane vs Taker for WM. Orton vs HHH on the raw side.

Will do. Combine that with the Dixie shoot and you should get a good view of TNA inner workings at least pre Hogan/Bisch.

This should be interesting if I can get my hands on it.

<p>Great piece on TNA about halfway threw here. JP Prag and his Hamilton Avenue Journal will be missed.</p><p> </p><p> <a href="http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/columns/162598/News-from-Prags-Place-11.18.10:-Second-and-Final-Edition.htm" rel="external nofollow">http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/columns/162598/News-from-Prags-Place-11.18.10:-Second-and-Final-Edition.htm</a></p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Blackman" data-cite="Blackman" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Hogan as an asset in a non-wrestling role is different then a bunch of other ex-WWE people in an active wrestler role. In that role they are all has-beens. Hogan has the aura and the credibility and the mic skills (though limited)</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yep but he and other nostalgia acts are still too much a focal point in general and as it comes to on screen airtime. It's Hogan's Immortals and Flair's Fortune. Instead of Hardy's Immortal's and AJ's Fortune. This is similar as if for instance in Evolution Flair was the head guy instead of HHH.</p><p> </p><p> I wouldn't be as radical as to cut them all but I would definitely reduce their roles heavily at least until international distribution and other such sectors where their name power can be useful have been near maxed out. Say for instance the Middle East deal. They now have it, after 1 year of having the relevant talent being the stars of the show and the nostalgia acts the garnish the relevant talent will be over enough so as to make a longer deal without future use of the nostalgia guys. Once this is completed in all relevant markets then totally cut them out.</p>

Middle East Deal, South East Asia deal and new France deal. All made post Hogan signing. But yeah as soon as all international deals are done and TNA has somewhat full coverage its time to phase the nostalgia guys out. If they don't do it then they never will. They are getting too much relevant screen time as is already.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Stennick" data-cite="Stennick" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Except Austin is booked up doing movies and can't even find time to stop by RAW and say hi nor does he want to come back and be full time like that. <p> </p><p> <strong>Honestly this isn't a storyline thats going to get paid off until their ready to end it. When their tired of the whole mystery GM they will reveal someone, they won't make much sense, I'm sure they'll get fired or beat up and it'll be onto someone else.</strong></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It's either this, with Adamle or Coach being a good patsy, or it's Cole or Trips imho.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="juggaloninjalee" data-cite="juggaloninjalee" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I like Jay Lethal in the ring. Didn't like the Black Machismo character though. His short feud with Flair was very entertaining and I liked that a lot. Not sure if I would have pegged him for World Champion anytime soon but he should have been used better after that feud.<p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> I can see why people have had arguments about my posts in this thread. It's natural for me to kinda stick up and counter most arguments when I feel they are more on the negative side. I will try not to do that anymore as I do agree with a lot of the negativety sometimes but still find myself taking the opposing side.</p><p> </p><p> I still like Hardy as a heel. By the way hated the face paint he wore.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Oh it's no problem to be on the opposing side or to want to argue the other side of the coin but it is the way you do that that is more important like Peterhilton gave an example of how it should and should not be done.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="PeterHilton" data-cite="PeterHilton" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>This is a "Discussion" thread..not a "blind fanboyism" thread...whether you like it or not it's not our job as fans of wrestling to agree with everything that every promotion does. <p> </p><p> People who defend all of anything only encourage mediocrity. </p><p> </p><p> Your "Jeff Hardy bought the title belt" defense was just plain ridiculous..so it's hard to value your opinion or take what you say seriously when you defend everything no matter what. <strong>Hyde used to catch flack for being the TNA homer but at least you could always have a fair discussion with him because he admitted faults and was reasonable, even if people didn't share his opinions.</strong></p><p> </p><p> But if you're going to post in a way that you blindly defend everything TNA does with no real logic or reason behind it, you kind of have to expect that people are going to tear your posts apart. </p><p> </p><p> Which is too bad because it seems like when you think your posts out you have some stuff worth listening to.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Thanks mate. And I actually do still have many of those opinions and do still see a lot of good in TNA. Like Papa wrote earlier that is why a lot here write about TNA because they care about TNA and criticise it. Its not just to bash but to look for improvement.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="juggaloninjalee" data-cite="juggaloninjalee" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I am saying he had a belt made. Then they worked it into a storyline after Hardy ordered it more than likely. I dont think Hogan and Bischoff or whoever writes storylines said... lets make a belt just for 1 guy so that we spend the money on 2 new belts in the next year. 1 for this guy and 1 for a TNA World Title.<p> </p><p> If they couldnt get a new TV belt made in place for the legends belt why would they be able to get a personalized belt and a new world belt approved? Do your bosses at your jobs work that way? I highly doubt it.</p><p> </p><p> Oh and Top Rope Belts isn't the company that does the TNA belts as far as I can tell. <a href="http://www.topropebelts.com" rel="external nofollow">http://www.topropebelts.com</a></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Huh? This makes no sense.</p><p> </p><p> Order of events:</p><p> </p><p> 1. Old belt is busted up.</p><p> </p><p> 2. To get heel heat and replace old one decision is made to unveil new belt for the heel stable champion.</p><p> </p><p> 3. Said champion (helps) pick who makes the belt as it will be a personalized belt.</p><p> </p><p> 4. TNA ok's the design and after completion pays for the belt.</p><p> </p><p> 5. TNA runs the angle.</p><p> </p><p> What you are saying Hardy went and ordered a belt for himself just for kicks. TNA found out about it and then decided to make it into an angle to replace the old one?</p><p> </p><p> Sorry I think the first scenario is way way way more likely and if the second one happened I need proof.</p>

Hey I loved Raven operative word is past tense though. He could become a good Road Agent or writer/booker but his active talent days in a non short nostalgia ways are behind him.

EY is back though thank god that Raven and Lacey are gone.

No proof he paid for it in the non kayfabe sense. It was made FOR him by a friend of Moore, but TNA most likely paid for it. If you have proof it wasn't in that link.

Don't hope she is a total failure but do hope she remains miles away from a wrestling ring. I wonder who is responsible for the apparent resurgence of the booking of the KO's its not just Mickie's signing but general it seems from what I have read more focus on the girls that can wrestle with the good looking ones as the anti Knock Out's/garnish.

<p>I don't think fanatasy booking is that bad as long as it is not revisionist booking. It's a lot easier to work in hindsight. Not detracting from the excellent diaries out there but more that it is easier to say: "well they did that wrong and they should/could have done that"</p><p> Instead of : "Going forward this is what they should do and this is why".</p><p> </p><p> One problem is is that we lack a lot of information. What do the talent contracts look like? What are the demands of Spike TV? What where the results of the survey and how was it set up? What do the minute by minutes look like? Etc etc.</p><p> </p><p> As far as the PWG/ROH/Other indies argument goes: Production Value and Storyline minimum they just don't reach that for me. TNA does and has the potential to give me X style wrestling for instance as they have shown they can deliver that in the past.</p>

The order of importance right now in TNA: 1. Nostalgia acts. Hogan, Sting, Nash, EV2, Jarrett etc 2. Guys who are still relevant but got most of their exposure elsewhere. Angle, Hardy, RVD, Anderson VERY VERY BIG GAP 3. Guys who are relevant and got their most exposure in TNA. AJ, Joe, Abyss. Gap 4. Up and coming talented guys. Morgan, Pope, Kaz, Terry (crap). Gap 5. Women's division. Within division sex appeal and ex e rule. 6. Tag division. Gap 7. Gimmicky/sympathy stuff. OJ, EY, Ink Inc, Robbie E etc Gap 8. X Division. How it should be and how I would like it. 1. Still relevant and exposure elsewhere 2. Relevent and exposure in TNA. Small gap. 3. Up and coming talents and head-liners different divisions. 4. Tag division 5. X Division 6. Women, with focus on in ring skill and sex appeal secondary and as anti what the division is about. Gap 7. Nostalgia 8. Gimmicky sympathy stuff jobbers. If you want me to explain the why and the assumptions behind it please ask or read my TNA diary lolz.

Also ad into this the fact that many possible solutions have been given by many different people and they, or at least I, don't want to keep repeating them. I know it's a big thread but if you look at the complaints lodged by me, Peter, Stennick, Bigpapa, DJfunk then you get a good idea at problems and solutions. I will just copy paste one of the big ones I did after BFG give me a sec to find it.

To sum up we complain because we care and one of the main complaints is they are not what they are because they are all over the place. And this is the TNA <span style="text-decoration:underline;">discussion</span> thread. Plus all of the people complaining have also pointed out the good and or potential in TNA so its not all negative plus good valid reasons are given or it is made clear it is personal opinion. This is not mindless bashing or Dirtsheet writer copy pasting.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="crownsy" data-cite="crownsy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>you cant afford to be paying actually useful talent with the money allocated to super over acts like the dudleys and hogan <img alt=":rolleyes:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/rolleyes.png.4b097f4fbbe99ce5bcd5efbc1b773ed6.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Or better yet such great lights as: Terry, OJ Von Erich, Rayne, Chelsea, Tessmacher, Kiyoshi, Okada, Eckos, Bayless, Raven, Richards and Gunner and Murphy.</p>

Also if they absolutely HAD to dump a title in the trash on tv wouldn't the women tag titles be a better target? Plus didn't Robbie E promise to make over the X belt Jersey style? So two new look belts so soon after one and other?