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The Entourage, clearly.

For the love of God, why would this be a request? Do we really need to reflect people's IRL sufferings in the game?

TLC, given that the collapse of joshi puroresu in Japan in-game somewhat mirrors OTL (though I guess here it collapse a little bit ahead of schedule with AJW and GAEA), who've been your most pleasant surprises in the joshi regarding ratings from the younger Japanese wrestlers? Obviously you've got some of the best joshi veterans around with nobody but Vince to steal them away, but what's been your general impressions? (May or may not be mulling a big money investment into joshi in 2001 game).

For those who have been booking women's divisions, have you been using them purely on an A-Show? Is it more feasible in 2020 to run a women's division purely on a B-show?

Clearly suffering from Alzheimers, that RDJ.

Don't know why being under the 30 mark matters. Most wrestlers don't decline by 35, and it's not like anyone of us will regularly run 5 year+ games...

> Tomko Losing I'm not a body or size guy (total lie, heavyweights forever), but Tomko losing has been a thing since the start of the game. He's about as intimidating as 2000 Tank Abott. > Respect I think you might need to catch yourself using this word. TNA famously overused it in promos between guys talking about how much they respected their opponent and it got very repetitive and very old. > Okada He only wrestled 18 matches for TNA, so you can't do any worse. Personally, might I suggest the Goldberg Push? > Mick Foley Man, this really was the Mick Foley episode, wasn't it? I can almost hear Bryan and Vinny ranting about this on the B&V Show. > Title Change! Huh. Still digesting that close out to the show. Not sure how I feel about MCMG getting their run cut short. Maybe I'm being worked? (nah...) Everything else was fun, especially AJ Styles and Samoa Joe. Joe's path back to the World Title has been long in the waiting. (That tattoo though...)

You're picking up those two unsigned GCG guys, right? Can't leave those young boys out in the cold...

Part of the problem there is that they've just never really grown in any appreciable way despite having great regular talents around. And while maybe you can put it down to New York not being a great place for independent wrestling, the number of guys they've had stick around long term and be valuable names only not to grow the product is something else. I used to excuse it in the older versions as Stomper running a lot of charity events for local schools and the like (like how SMW did in Kentucky and Tennessee) that were nice enough for reputation and word of mouth but weren't really a return on investment. And then cheap-ass Larry Vessey took over, and he just cut out the charity events only to fall flat on his ass trying to promote his old school product without any good will.

Rereading through the first dozen pages of this thread is fun. It goes from 'EVERYTHING IS TERRIBLE' to 'No wait, everything is fine, we can work with this' so quickly.

@ JON - Is there anyone you're looking at that's a homegrown guy to push from the ground up? BHOTWG this iteration around seems really more of a WCW-WWE company where they're just buying talent to push without a lot of homegrown stars.

> 8 women wrestling a 10 minute match. Brother Russo, where art thou?

> Signing 28 women in one go. Damn. And here I think I'm a big spender when I bring in six people.

I've never dug the idea of a committee because it creates too many moving parts along with the above managerial system. I prefer a Dana White, a likeable douche who blatantly has favorites among the managers and wrestlers based on who he thinks is a star or less trouble to deal with. Most of the older guys get to be analysts as a result. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="20LEgend" data-cite="20LEgend" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="49021" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>As for Traci, it's a complete mystery... I couldn't possibly say <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote> Uh huh... <img alt=";)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/wink.png.686f06e511ee1fbf6bdc7d82f6831e53.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> I think this is one angle the in-game dirtsheets were calling for weeks. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Makhai" data-cite="Makhai" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47616" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>TCW isn't the product to be using vanity titles. They toyed with concepts like Juniors divisions, to diversify their cards, but I don't consider secondary belts like this "vanity". The 24/7 title is a vanity belt. The Million Dollar Belt is a vanity belt, etc. Products like their's have to keep their belt over to make stars, and they've started shrinking, so a simplification makes a lot of sense.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> For me, the titles that make the stars are the TCW World Heavyweight and TCW World Tag Team titles, but even then a star has more leeway to get to those titles than otherwise. The other titles in TCW I use a little bit more akin to the multitude of titles in boxing across 4 worldwide governing bodies and across multiple promoters, which are a little bit more politically contested and fraught? </p><p> </p><p> So for example, maybe Floyd Goldworthy has a lock on the Hardcore Championship title scene, and occasionally he gets an hour block on TCW SNS where he's the third man in the booth and he's 'presenting' a title defense and so on. That said, 'his' Hardcore Champion obviously wants the top title, and a champion vs. champion match getting inked where his guy puts over a Tommy Cornell or whoever is perfectly fine in the 'business of TCW'.</p><p> </p><p> Another guy might be involved in the International scene, bringing over talents from Europe or Japan. Maybe a Koshiro Ino has room to play here as an outsider looking in on the World Title scene, or maybe an Eddie Cornell is holding this title to complement cousin Tommy as the World champion. </p><p> </p><p> To me, I do it like this with a national promotion because I don't like the sports entertainment model an SWF or WWE necessarily has, the model that WCW helped pioneered. If TCW is Wrestling the Sport, where the '10 Pounds of Gold' really matter and make the stars, then just like in real sports, there's gonna be developmental leagues, there's going to be farm leagues, there's going to be sports managers who aren't throwing a pair of brasses knuckles into the ring but instead making the major plays for their talents and shaping how the on-screen product is actually being produced. </p><p> </p><p> A part of that for me is always the lesser championships. Perhaps I have a different identifier for 'vanity' (to me, a Million Dollar Championship is a 'prop' title and a 24/7 title is a 'crash tv title'), but I do think there's merit to my madness within the confines of a TCW. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

Does anyone here use vanity championships in TCW TEW20? One of the things I used to like about having the Cruiserweight, Hardcore and International titles in TCW (or the National and Television Titles in USPW) is that you didn't necessarily need to keep a division going to make them interesting. You could just sort of push guys who happened to have those titles around, making title defenses incidental or supplementary. I'd even pattern it to specific 'programming blocks', where an hour of television once a week could be 'presented' by a specific manager whose involved with that specific champion. Now in 2020 you've only got the Television Title going which simplifies things a lot as the booking and pop systems get more complex, but I figured I'd ask if people were doing anything like that.

If I'm not wrong, Knocked Out! uses the same database as you. Could be working look at his recent shows and see who's delivering ratings a few months down the line. Also, Frankie Kazarian is obviously Traci Brook's client. He's her husband, he's an X-Division champion and he's been involved in his storyline.

The Universal Wrestling Federation.

What a pleasant surprise. Welcome back!

Rampage Brown with Steven Regal makes perfect sense, though. He could be Regal's heater vs. Daniel Bryan. And I could see Sekimoto rebranded as Shogun Sekimoto. Steal a page out of NJPW's book, and form the Royal Quest stable! How exactly is your partnership with NJPW set up? I suspect you've formed a promotional alliance to create something like the Unified Junior Heavyweight Title, because deactivating the junior heavyweight title is pretty much a Riki Choshu move contemplated in 2000 as he looked to move up popular juniors into heavyweight contention that had serious backlash.

Hm. Did you try him with Harry Smith or Steven Regal?

I'm surprised that Carol Midori isn't decline. Also, PUSH SEKIMOTO. Make him Bill Goldberg's new buddy.

<p>Cheers for the shoutout, lol. </p><p> </p><p> I didn't realize that the in-game NJPW didn't run touring, but I suppose that makes sense given touring is kind of iffy in a Real Verse context. </p><p> </p><p> I'll admit to being very curious as to how you run NJPW in the context of a WCW partner. I imagine there's a part of you that's very tempted to get whoever you can off their sizeable roster.</p>

Well, here's food for thought: Who's around on the open market that's a recognizable star that could come in for a month or so to win the Brawl without pissing off your homegrown guys, job to Andrews and then do a couple of more jobs for momentum's sake before leaving?