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WCW SUPERBRAWL II PREVIEW
The second edition of WCW SuperBrawl will be live on PPV this Sunday.
The WCW World Heavyweight Championship will be on the line, with champion Sting making his first defense of the title against the leader of the Diamond Mine, Diamond Dallas Page. DDP has been making Sting's life hell since Sting defeated Lex Luger on Saturday Night. Sting, in his first reign as champion, has stated that he aims to be the "Franchise" of WCW and is proud represent the company. DDP aims to end this reign before it truly gets started.
The NWA World Heavyweight Championship will also be defended, with Harley Race's unstoppable beast Big Van Vader defending against New Japan Pro Wrestling stalwart Hiroshi Hase. This will be Vader's fourth defense.
The two sets of tag team titles in WCW will be unified. WCW World Tag Team Champions Arn Anderson & Bully Blanchard, representing the Dangerous Alliance, will face The Steiner Brothers, who hold the WCW United States Tag Team Championships.
After two straight time limit draws against Junkyard Dog, Steve Austin will again defend the WCW World Television Championship against him in a match with a special thirty minute time limit.
Jushin Liger will defend the WCW Light Heavyweight title against Gran Hamada. Hamada is a Japanese junior heavyweight icon who has helped fuse the Mexican and Japanese styles of wrestling in his home promotion of Universal Lucha Libre, based out of Tokyo.
In other action, Ricky Steamboat & Dustin Rhodes will take on the York Foundation duo of Richard Morton & Thomas Rich, Meng will face Marcus Alexander Bagwell, and Barry Windham goes one-on-one with Terrence Taylor.
0. Brian Pillman vs. Steve Armstrong
1. Terrence Taylor vs. Barry Windham
2. Meng vs. Marcus Alexander Bagwell
3. WCW LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP: Jushin Liger © vs. Gran Hamada
4. York Foundation (Richard Morton & Thomas Rich) vs. Ricky Steamboat & Dustin Rhodes
5. WCW WORLD TELEVISION CHAMPIONSHIP: Steve Austin © vs. Junkyard Dog
6. WCW WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIPS & WCW UNITED STATES TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIPS: Arn Anderson & Tully Blanchard (World) © vs. The Steiner Brothers (US) ©
7. NWA WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP: Big Van Vader © vs. Hiroshi Hase
8. WCW WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP: Sting © vs. Diamond Dallas Page
BONUS: Which tag team legend makes his return to WCW?
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3 minutes ago, The Blonde Bomber said:
Why are you insulting people as “dorks” and being in my view condescending with your remarks towards people on here?
I'm clearly referring to the dork grifters?
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AEW simply existing and being a very successful number two wrestling company in the US has broken so many brains. Being the biggest nonsports program every week, this week included, somehow requires thinkpieces and open debates on how to turn around a sinking ship, etc. Maybe when they sign the next TV deal that will stop the dorks from complaining, since making money is the most important thing to fans for some reason? Probably not though.
AEW is far from my favorite wrestling promotion currently, maybe my fourth?, but there is so much wild discourse surrounding every show, more than any promotion maybe ever, that there's an entire grift economy that AEW has created. Countless podcasters, YouTubers and websites get their biggest engagement and thus make the most money when they have an angry Tony Khan thumbnail and negative AEW title. It's hard to separate real criticism from those hopping on for the grift.
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52 minutes ago, guyver3 said:
I think the thing is TK doesn’t care about being a successful business he only cares about having great wrestling matches which to him is success. After their next ppv I’m sure he’s going to say they’ve been having great shows and great matches, plus the cagematch ratings say they’re doing great so everything is great.
Posts like this are why I love this thread so much. The billionaire wrestling promoter caring more about putting on great wrestling matches than making money is Bad, Actually.
Incredible take.
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22 minutes ago, Matt_Black said:
How is that ANY different than when the BCC teamed with former rivals PAC and Takeshita for last year's Blood & Guts?
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PAC? He had never (and still has never) been in any AEW match with Bryan Danielson. He had never been in any AEW match with Claudio Castagnoli. He hadn't faced Moxley in three and a half years and that while a feud, wasn't a generation-spanding blood feud like the well-established Claudio vs. Kingston rivalry.
Takeshita? While he had matches with Danielson, Moxley, and Claudio, NONE of them were in any direct feud between them. In fact, I believe all three of those matches were face vs. face. Not to mention, Takeshita also teamed with BCC the month before at Forbidden Door.
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On 5/12/2024 at 9:15 PM, Matt_Black said:
What drove me nuts was the promo from Claudio complaining about Eddie. So we might be getting THAT feud again at some point. Remember at Grand Slam, and Claudio said win or lose, that was the LAST time? Turns out that was a big fat lie.
I'm a bit confused with this take. Isn't it good booking that Claudio is upset that Danielson is wrestling in a dangerous match, teaming with Claudio's eternal rival? Isn't this the kind of booking and storytelling that the doomposters in this thread constantly claim they want to see?
It also doesn't mean there will be another Claudio/Kingston feud. It's well-established in kayfabe that Claudio and Kingston will always hate each other. I'm glad they're not ignoring this and insulting the intelligence of the audience.
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Awesome to see this. NOAH is finally coming out of the rut they've been in post-Muto (and most of Muto tbh) and they actually feel hot right now. As long as you treat Kaito well (low bar, I know) and make him a proper champion and a proper ace, the rest will fall into place!
Junior division I agree is rough and it's not like there are many unaffiliated talent out there to grab. Naruki Doi is a favorite of mine and is technically freelance so there's one option. And you could always grab a couple Americans. NOAH always has a random grab bag of foreigners so virtually any indie talent are acceptable. Titus Alexander should already be on the roster and NOAH very clearly has plans for him as well.
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WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP WRESTLING
SATURDAY WEEK 4, FEBRUARY 1992WCW MAIN EVENT
1. Z-Man def. Pat Rose
2. Brian Pillman def. Sgt. Buddy Lee Parker
3. Can-Am Express def. Jim Boss & Van HammerThe final episode of World Championship Wrestling before WCW SuperBrawl II gave us hot matches and crazy segments. The main event saw Ricky Steamboat defeat Terrence Taylor in a preview of the tag team match at SuperBrawl between Steamboat & Dustin Rhodes and Taylor’s York Foundation mates, Thomas Rich & Richard Morton.
Jim Ross interviewed Diamond Dallas Page, who gave the final build to his WCW World Heavyweight Championship match against the current titleholder, “The Franchise” Sting.
In a huge preview of two title matches on the PPV, Ron Simmons and the Steiner Brothers faced The Dangerous Alliance trio of Larry Zbyszko, Arn Anderson & Tully Blanchard. Simmons and Zbyszko are facing off for the WCW United States Championship, and a double tag team title match between WCW United States Tag Team champs Steiners and the WCW World Tag Team champs Anderson & Blanchard. In this six-man match, the referee completely lost control and was forced to call for the bell to declare a no-contest due to the competitors not following the tag rules.
In a great opener (that will surely be a tape trader classic), Jushin “Thunder” Liger defended the WCW Light Heavyweight Championship over Eddy Guerrero from Mexican promotion CMLL. Later on the card, Japanese lucha libre pioneer Gran Hamada defeated Arachnaman, thereby earning a title match against Liger at the PPV. Hamada is credited with bringing the high-flying lucha libre style to his native Japan, where he now runs the Universal Lucha Libre promotion, giving smaller workers in Japan a place to thrive.
Junkyard Dog had a heartfelt interview with Jim Ross, warning WCW World Television Champion Steve Austin that this old horse still has some kick. He said he’s taken Austin to his limit twice already, and the third time’s the charm come Sunday.
Also, in a shocking video, it was announced that SuperBrawl would see the WCW debut of Meng. He is formerly known as Haku in the WWF.
1. WCW LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT: Jushin Liger © def. Eddy Guerrero (2nd defense)
2. Ron Simmons & The Steiner Brothers NO CONTEST Dangerous Alliance (Larry Zbyszko, Arn Anderson & Tully Blanchard)
3. Gran Hamada def. Arachnaman
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WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP WRESTLING
SATURDAY WEEK 3, FEBRUARY 1992WCW MAIN EVENT
1. Can-Am Express def. Joey Maggs & Italian Stallion
2. Abdullah the Butcher def. Arachnaman
3. Brian Pillman def. Bob CookA huge championship match main evented World Championship Wrestling, with Big Van Vader retaining the NWA World Heavyweight Championship over Dustin Rhodes in a fantastic match. Vader didn’t win the match clean however, as the York Foundation interfered just enough to distract Rhodes, allowing Vader to slam him for the win. Vader stood to the side as Thomas Rich and Richard Morton put the boots to Dustin Rhodes until Ricky Steamboat made the save.
In the second semifinal of the mini WCW US title tournament following Rick Rude’s vacating of the title, Ron Simmons defeated Bobby Eaton as Larry Zbyszko watched from ringside. The two will meet at WCW SuperBrawl II to crown a new champion.
Steve Austin and Junkyard Dog went to a second time limit draw in three weeks, therefore giving Steve Austin his sixteenth successful defense of the WCW World Television title. After the bell, Tony Schiavone exclaimed that he received word that a third match will take place at SuperBrawl with a special thirty minute time limit.
Jim Ross also interviewed WCW World Heavyweight Champion Sting at ringside, leading to Diamond Dallas Page coming out and the two dueling on the mic. The match was then made official: Sting vs. Diamond Dallas Page for the world title at SuperBrawl! Additionally, a video package for the Can-Am Express tag team of Dan Kroffat & Doug Furnas aired, highlighting their victory in their debut on WCW Main Event the night prior. The two are veterans of the All Japan Pro Wrestling tag team division, and are coming back to America to take over WCW.
1. WCW WORLD TELEVISION: Steve Austin © DRAW Junkyard Dog (16th defense)
2. Ron Simmons def. Bobby Eaton
3. NWA WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT: Big Van Vader © def. Dustin Rhodes (1st defense)-
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8 hours ago, MightyDavidson said:
Yet all Jack managed to get was mockery. I'm just sayin', if he thinks he can ride this CM Punk business to superstardom he might be in for a rude awakening.
Just curious here, did you watch the match before you commented on it? Perry had the crowd in the palm of his hand. They were living and dying by his every move, and by the end he had actually turned them in his favor. It was electric; the atmosphere was incredible.
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What's the point of commenting on the randomness and logic of something while simultaneously saying you don't watch?
Three of the four women in the "fatal" four way have been feuding for quite some time and the winner gets a title shot at the fourth person in that feud. Struggling to wrap my head around how that's random whatsoever...?
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3 hours ago, Jaysin said:
Did that many people genuinely only tune in for MJF? Such a weird thing if true. I like him and everything, but so many of his promos were typical edgelord stuff.
No, that many people did not only tune in for MJF. That is a take that is fabricated out of thin air.
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OOC: I sent Rick Rude to rehab after showing up high to TV. I might have been able to take the title off of him but putting him out there would probably be a bad idea. A rough two weeks for the top two champs, with Luger leaving and Rude being gone for the foreseeable future. Oh well, time to push those young guys now!
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WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP WRESTLING
SATURDAY WEEK 2, FEBRUARY 1992WCW MAIN EVENT
1. Michael Hayes def. Todd Champion
2. Terry Gordy def. Marcus Alexander Bagwell
3. Brian Pillman def. George SouthComing off the heels of Sting winning the WCW World Heavyweight Championship from Lex Luger last week, the road to WCW SuperBrawl II truly began. In unfortunate news, Jim Ross and Tony Schiavone announced that due to injury, Rick Rude has been forced to relinquish the WCW United States Championship. There will be a four-man tournament to crown a new champion with the finals taking place at SuperBrawl. The first semifinal was tonight, with Larry Zbyszko defeating Big Josh. The other semifinal will be next week between Ron Simmons and Bobby Eaton.
In the main event, Ricky Steamboat defeated York Foundation’s Thomas Rich, which led to an all-out brawl between Ricky Steamboat & Dustin Rhodes and Thomas Rich & Richard Morton. It seems as though they are on a collision course for the upcoming pay-per-view.
The Steiner Brothers retained the WCW United States Tag Team Championships against Vinnie Vegas & The Diamond Studd, in small part due to the shenanigans at ringside. Diamond Dallas Page attempted to aid his Diamond Mine brethren, but was thwarted by Sting who ran down to the ring to prevent interference. The distraction gave Scott Steiner enough time to recover and roll up Diamond Studd, who was too busy watching what was going on at ringside. WCW World Tag Team Champions Anderson & Blanchard then came to the ring and confronted the Steiners, and both teams held their titles high in the air. Is there a double tag team title match upcoming?
A promo aired for Harley Race and Big Van Vader. Vader has been tearing it up in both WCW and NJPW, fulfilling obligations as the NWA World Heavyweight Champion. After the video finished, Jim Ross was with Dustin Rhodes and announced that the two would face off next Saturday night in an NWA title match.
Other happenings on the show included Barry Windham beating Cactus Jack in a wild brawl, and Steve Austin hyping up a WCW TV title rematch next week against Junkyard Dog.
1. WCW UNITED STATES TAG TEAM: Steiner Brothers © def. Diamond Mine (Vinnie Vegas & Diamond Studd) (1st defense)
2. Barry Windham def. Cactus Jack
3. Larry Zbyszko def. Big Josh
4. Ricky Steamboat def. Thomas Rich-
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The returning talent was Terry Gordy, who became a two-time Triple Crown Champion for AJPW during his time away from WCW. Giant Baba's plan was to make him the next foreign ace after Stan Hansen, but a drug problem that ended his second title run permanently ended those plans. A really big "what if" in Japan. I actually tried signing both Steve Williams and Terry Gordy, since I love Dr. Death and I planned on having the two go on a long tag run (just like IRL in 1992) but AJPW signed Williams to an absurd exclusive contract even though I was trying for non-exclusive. I wanted Williams to be a main character in this diary but oh well. Maybe in 95 or something!
As for the world title changing hands on TV, Luger put in his notice, and I had very limited time to take the title off of him. This was basically the only time it made sense, and losing it to the Stinger seemed like a perfect way to stabilize the title and WCW as a whole.
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WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP WRESTLING
SATURDAY WEEK 1, FEBRUARY 1992WCW MAIN EVENT
1. Ricky Steamboat def. Steve Armstrong
2. Abdullah the Butcher def. Jim Boss
3. Dustin Rhodes def. ArachnamanA giant main event between two long-time friends and rivals, and WCW has a new world champion. After Luger’s shock return last week, the title match was made for the main event of this episode of World Championship Wrestling. It was a classic, with Sting picking up the clean win over Luger. His celebration would be short-lived however, as Diamond Dallas Page rolled into the ring and attacked Sting alongside Diamond Studd and Vinnie Vegas. The Steiners (who the Diamond Mine tag team will be facing next week) made the save for Sting, finally allowing Sting to celebrate his title win.
As previously matched, Vinnie Vegas & Diamond Studd will be facing the Steiner Brothers in a WCW United States Tag Team title match next week, a challenge they earned by defeating Marcus Alexander Bagwell & Scott Armstrong in a number one contenders match.
Steve Austin faced perhaps his toughest challenge yet in Junkyard Dog, but he retained the WCW World Television Championship after the fifteen-minute time limit expired. The two were in the middle of trading punches as the bell sounded, but they continued throwing shots after the bell until they were both too exhausted to continue.
This week’s World Championship Wrestling also saw the return of Terry Gordy to the promotion, as he picked up a victory over The Italian Stallion. Gordy was last seen in WCW in 1989. Since then, he has become a two-time Triple Crown Heavyweight Champion in All Japan Pro Wrestling. He looked dominant, and will surely be a force to be reckoned with going forward. There was also a hype video for Big Van Vader with a voiceover from Harley Race.
1. Diamond Mine (Diamond Studd & Vinnie Vegas) def. Marcus Alexander Bagwell & Scott Armstrong
2. Terry Gordy def. The Italian Stallion
3. WCW WORLD TELEVISION: Steve Austin © DRAW Junkyard Dog (15th defense)
4. WCW WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT: Sting def. Lex Luger © (NEW CHAMPION)-
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Super interested in how you handle this, since most modern UWF-style matches IRL are cheap imitations of days of old, or just flat-out bad. I have faith this will go way better than GLEAT's UWF stuff. 😀
Nakajima (the best wrestler in Japan right now, and the TC champ ain't losing a singles match here)
Suzuki (Kind of a toss-up but Suzuki is a good opponent for Nakajima)
Barnett/Sakuraba DRAW (That Doesn't Work For Me, Brother)
Abe (I almost want to go Nomura as a future-focused pick, but Abe is otherworldly at the moment)
Hashimoto (maybe this is the future-focused pick. Feels wrong picking against Ishikawa though)
TM4/Tanaka/Kashin (completely random pick, choosing based solely on my affinity for Tanaka)
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ALL JAPAN PRO WRESTLING
JANUARY 1992 - JANUARY 1997TRIPLE CROWN HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP: Mitsuhara Misawa (def. Kenta Kobashi, October 1996)
AJPW WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIPS: Stan Hansen & Steve Williams (def. Akira Taue & Toshiaki Kawada, January 1996)
ALL ASIA HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP: Kensuke Sasaki (def. Dan Severn, September 1996)
ALL ASIA TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIPS: Scott Steiner & Rick Steiner (def. Yoshihiro Takayama & Takao Omori, October 1996)
AJPW WORLD JUNIOR HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP: Hayabusa (def. Tsuyoshi Kikuchi, September 1996)CHAMPION CARNIVAL: Kenta Kobashi (April 1996)
REAL WORLD TAG LEAGUE: Dan Kroffat & Doug Furnas (December 1996)-
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Moxley and Danielson worked a total of three hardcore-stip matches together in AEW. May 2022, May 2023, December 2023 (the final was a tribute match that wasn't all that crazy).
I wish I lived in the reality where Moxley and Danielson spent months doing outlaw mudshow matches together. That sounds awesome.
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A big episode of World Championship Wrestling coming up for reasons that will become clear, so may as well run predictions before it goes up.
1. Diamond Mine (Diamond Studd & Vinnie Vegas) vs. Marcus Alexander Bagwell & Scott Armstrong
2. The Italian Stallion vs. ??
3. WCW WORLD TELEVISION: Steve Austin © vs. Junkyard Dog
4. WCW WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT: Lex Luger © vs. StingBONUS: Which former top champion of a Japanese promotion debuts (technically returns) against The Italian Stallion?
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WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP WRESTLING
SATURDAY WEEK 4, JANUARY 1992WCW MAIN EVENT
1. Cactus Jack def. Bill Kazmaier
2. Brian Pillman def. Bob Cook
3. Dustin Rhodes def. Firebreaker ChipA snappy-but-newsworthy episode of World Championship Wrestling aired this past Saturday night. If the wild six-man tag team main event wasn’t enough, the WCW World Champion Lex Luger made his return after the match. After Sting, Barry Windham and Z-Man defeated the Diamond Mine group of Diamond Dallas Page, the Diamond Studd and Vinnie Vegas, the losers jumped the winners. Lex Luger then made his triumphant return and stood next to his storied friend and rival, Sting. But as they stood tall, he turned and knocked out Sting with a punch! He then dispatched Pillman and Z-Man and yelled at Sting some more. Jim Ross then entered the ring and asked what Lex Luger is doing, and Luger responded by saying that he will see Sting next Saturday night!
The other big news was the Steiner Brothers winning the WCW United States Tag Team titles from The Young Pistols, and they did it in quick fashion. This is Rick & Scott Steiner’s third run with the belts.
Junkyard Dog earned a bit of revenge on the York Foundation, scoring a victory over Richard Morton despite interference from Thomas Rich at ringside. After the match, JYD challenged Steve Austin to a TV title match, and said he hoped for an answer tonight. Steve Austin then made defense number fourteen of the WCW World Television title with a win over Johnny B. Badd, before accepting the challenge from JYD.
1. WCW UNITED STATES TAG TEAM: Steiner Brothers def. Young Pistols ©
2. Junkyard Dog def. Richard Morton
3. WCW WORLD TELEVISION: Steve Austin © def. Johnny B. Badd (14th defense)
4. Sting, Barry Windham & Z-Man def. Diamond Mine (DDP, Diamond Studd & Vinnie Vegas)-
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I noticed that CMLL's Japan pop being 30 across the board allows the AI to sign on with TV Osaka, which leads to them (at least in this save) reaching 72 pop in Japan by mid 1996. Thought this was worth mentioning.
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WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP WRESTLING
SATURDAY WEEK 3, JANUARY 1992WCW MAIN EVENT
1. Brian Pillman def. Bob Cook
2. Cactus Jack def. Sonny Trout
3. Z-Man def. Sgt. Buddy Lee Parker
Major news coming out of this week’s episode of World Championship Wrestling, as we have new WCW World Tag Team Champions. Dustin Rhodes and Ricky Steamboat said they didn’t want to wait to take on Arn Anderson & Tully Blanchard after Blanchard’s return at Clash on Tuesday, so they would put the belts on the line in the main event. This turned out to be a mistake, thanks to the help of Paul E. Dangerously. A whack with the cellular phone on Dustin Rhodes, along with the continued distractions by Bobby Eaton and Larry Zbyszko, gave Anderson & Blanchard enough leverage to take the victory and steal the titles. The Dangerous Alliance, led by the dastardly Paul E. Dangerously, now hold the world tag team titles, the US title, and the television title.After Diamond Dallas Page’s attack on Sting at Clash of the Champions, Sting took on and defeated The Diamond Studd in singles action. After the match, a six-man tag team match between The Diamond Mine, and Sting’s team of Sting, Barry Windham, and Z-Man was made for next week.
The monster Big Van Vader continued his hot streak, destroying The Italian Stallion with ease. Harley Race hyped up his monster after the match, claiming that there is no man in the world that can stop him. After the attack on Junkyard Dog last week, Thomas Rich & Richard Morton defeated JYD and Van Hammer with Rich picking up the pin on Hammer. Steve Austin also defeated Big Josh to retain the WCW World Television Championship.
1. York Foundation (Ricky Morton & Thomas Rich) def. Junkyard Dog & Van Hammer
2. Big Van Vader def. The Italian Stallion
3. Sting def. The Diamond Studd
4. WCW WORLD TELEVISION: Steve Austin © def. Big Josh (13th defense)
5. WCW WORLD TAG TEAM: Dangerous Alliance (Anderson & Blanchard) def. Dustin Rhodes & Ricky Steamboat © (NEW CHAMPIONS)-
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The All Elite Wrestling Discussion Thread
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Posted · Edited by Dalton
This is the first time I've ever seen someone refer to Swerve Strickland as just an ex-WWE guy