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The problem with that is that Canada will be dominated by 2 similar work rate promotions. In my head canon, CGC is the real reason why NOTBPW has not had a problem with sports entertainment promotions. It gives Canadian fans their entertainment fix without having to consistently import SWF or USPW to Canada. The DeColts falling apart makes sense given they’re the parallels to the Von Erichs

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41191" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><img alt="w8DKZyO.png" data-src="https://imgur.com/w8DKZyO.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> I had no idea that even legends in the game could still get boosts from their mentors. It makes total sense...but this is a nice surprise. Koiso was just giving psychology help to his own protege on the last show too. I wouldn't mind an eternal loop of this <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It's super important if you play GCG. If Gakusha is not on Time Decline, pillaging back Maeda from BCG does wonders for him. He can get a psych boost all the way up to A*.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Skywalker1976" data-cite="Skywalker1976" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41392" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>For a storyline purpose who could eventually buy CGC and lead it into a new direction?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Idaho Punisher, using his book royalties would be funny.</p>

<p>Any chance I can get this guy:</p><p> </p><p> <img alt="WFlVPre.png" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/WFlVPre.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> With an announcer's earpiece?</p>

Imo, the way to bring BHOTWG back to #1 in the world relies on hanging on with B ratings until around 2018, where both GCG and PGHW are close to bankrupt. PGHW provides some of the best workrate heavyweights in the game, and GCG provides you with some secondary main event talent. WLW almost never gets bankrupted so you probably will never get your hands on Kobe or Angel, but you can snag anyone who goes on an excursion or isn't loyal. Reverie has a Japanese expansion, and as long as you remain nationlal, 2018 is your year to shine. With a non-decline Yoshimi, Kozue, the Golden Trio, all of the original BHOTWG guys plus anyone you might have pushed up the card (Razan, lol), you could take on SOTBPW in workrate and 21CW/USPW in global popularity.

I’ll be happy to contribute. CVerse is basically the MCU for me, it’s really crazy how many people get the game and go for the real world mods without playing CV. There is so much time and love put into this universe, and an updated Wiki could get more people into it.

<p>So Keneko is really running PGHW down into the ground. This happened 3 months after he took over</p><p> </p><p> <img alt="GukK4IT.png?1" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/GukK4IT.png?1" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Previously, he signed a bunch of journeymen to the roster on writtens (always dumb if you're bleeding money) so this is what post-cut PGHW looks like:</p><p> </p><p> <img alt="Ucx3Nux.png?1" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/Ucx3Nux.png?1" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Cool part is, Golden Kingdom is next month for me, and the card just got 300% times beefier, especially after poaching Greg Gauge back from Burning Hammer.</p>

Because CV Japanese feds (much like real life)mostly run like real sports (outside of WEXXV and WLW) there aren’t defined heels and faces. Think of how everyone hates Kevin Durant or Tom Brady but they are hated for being them rather than being booked that way. There’s still a measure of kayfabe but the Booker doesn’t go out of their way to make sure everyone has a clear alignment like WWE. That lets you build multiple factions without worrying about alignment which is really liberating. If you watched recent WWE, there was a bunch of 3v3 matches with Balor, Strowman and Lashley vs KO, Elias and Ziggler or something like that. Those matches usually suck because there are no stakes or actual alignment outside of face vs heel and the product is a lot harder to book. Think of it less as a battle between good and bad but rather one of different and diverse personal interests. A guy like Kikkawa might be like Brock, holding the company hostage as the figurehead. Horri is obsessed with beating Kikkawa, Nagasaki wants to be figurehead himself and Hoshino wants the Burning World as leverage for his run as Japanese Prime Minister. There’s a lot you can do, and you can have face vs face stories without worrying about penalties.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Luchador Canadiense" data-cite="Luchador Canadiense" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41191" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>And the plot thickens. This looks like a massively fun save!</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It's gotten even better. Kikkawa, who didn't re-sign with BHOTWG in 2017 (and signed with me in July), got the head booker job from his buddy Tetsuzan. Likewise, we have ceased our hostility with BHOTWG thanks to Komine's friendship with Kudo (I'm playing the head booker Dread). Kudo won't let me do a working agreement with them, but it doesn't really matter because BHOTWG hasn't touched a single one of my workers since Komine returned to power. </p><p> </p><p> If you're interested, I'll make a post on the "What is going on in your game" thread, there is so much to talk about in this playthrough tbh.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Luchador Canadiense" data-cite="Luchador Canadiense" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41191" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>There really is something more awkward than a Grade 8 dance! <p> </p><p> This might be my favourite ownership change in CVerse history. I'm curious how dramatically he is going to change things in your save. If I recall correctly, he likes to run things on the cheap.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Oh boy, it gets even better...</p><p> </p><p> <img alt="E48S058.png?1" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/E48S058.png?1" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> <img alt="dNj3nZs.png?1" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/dNj3nZs.png?1" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Just jumped on this save again. This is gonna be one hell of a save, especially as GCG</p>

<p>Honestly, the best way I’ve found to make money with BHOTWG is using a commercial, promotion-owned broadcaster. The only issue with making one early game is that the company canon-wise wants to expand into the West (specifically America), but your Japanese TV network stupidly covers shows in Hawaii so it’s seen as a competitor to your network (LOL!). You can expand into Canada/Mexico and hope for spillover, or do a realistic playthrough and start with Australia given its geographic proximity to Japan. </p><p> </p><p> An alternative would be to run a second event each month. It hurts your main PPV in buys but you’ll make a cool million each month if you play your cards right. The issue is, one you’ll burn through your matchups pretty quickly (given how Japanese product tends to sepearate important matchups for a prolonged time) and the need to hit a B minimum show to beat PGHW in a National Battle which only so many matchup can produce. One bad PPV can set you back big time. </p><p> </p><p> Lastly would be to cut the fat on he roster. Get rid of anyone over 35 that isn’t an upper midcarder or main eventer and all the bad influences. It would be a bit immersion breaking, but the most successful BHOTWG playthrough is basically a KC Glenn-Razan Okamoto-Keith twins show (so basically everyone’s TEW 2013 playthrough). But that ruins the immersion and the best part of BHOTWG is the massive rosters and the crazy diverse roster of characters.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BHK1978" data-cite="BHK1978" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41359" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>It is funny how different people have different people have different tastes. The very first thing I do is get rid of all of those renders and replace them with the older renders because I hate how they all look nearly exactly alike.<p> </p><p> In regards to BHOTWG, I have tried playing as them a couple of times and I get frustrated because I always end up losing money hand over fist with them. I am not sure what I am doing wrong but it always happens. The same thing happens to me when I play as TCW.</p><p> </p><p> The only big company in the C-Verse that I have ever made a profit with was the SWF. Which is odd because I usually run a massive roster (Much like BHOTWG) and yet I always make a profit.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> SWF makes most of its money off of merchandise and sponsors. As long as you’re strolling along with B minimum shows, you’ll be making a massive profit much like real life WWE. BHOTWG relies on its PPVs being incredible (just like NJPW), and it provides a more diverse product than PGHW and WLW, providing both juniors and heavyweights, instead of choosing one or the other. Wrestling reliant promotions mean that you can worry less about how your workers are on a mic and more on their in-ring performances. </p><p> </p><p> To be fair BHOTWG is a bit infuriating because it’s easy to eat a loss at the end of the month while CPU Burning Hammer at cult with half of the Japanese wrestlers in the world signed to writtens will still somehow make a profit</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Voeltzwagon" data-cite="Voeltzwagon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45658" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Odd on Martyr. He is Liberal and I have been using him in a PSW save. He was doing high risk matches without issue, but very high he would complain if I remember. Not sure how well he would do in GSW, but PSW he pretty much always ends up under Madman Boone's wing which only benefits him.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Ended up hoarding rookie talent in my SWF save. Martyr was on a good roll and ended up at B brawling and B- flashiness at 23 years old. Depends on how he develops tbh.</p>

Very cool KB!!

Any rerenders of the National School of Wrestling graduates? I have a good Beskov, but it seems like there is a lot of untapped potential in some of these guys. Right now, most of them are bald white guys haha.

<p><img alt="iuAzpHs.png" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/iuAzpHs.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Oh man, this is going to be awkward.</p>

<p><img alt="hGbyd3B.png" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/hGbyd3B.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Joey Minnesota/Morgan ended up getting a movie role and got bumped up from 80~ some SQ and B+ pop to A* and 99 SQ. It's pretty awesome. Plus he was cast into a psychological thriller/mystery so it's perfect for his Randy Orton-esq character.</p>

Devyn Reynald is one I haven't seen mentioned. Pretty bland worker but he has one of the highest selling and flashiness stats in the game available. Plus he's not even 25 yet. He can be the back bone of a cruiserweight division

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="d12345" data-cite="d12345" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41303" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>2 words. Champagne Lover. Steal him and 50% of your problems with them go away. Also don't let them steal away any high SQ guys and you're good.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I haven't been able to poach Chanpagne Lover yet. They usually will outbid you no matter how much you spend. The best chance to get him is to hope he gets into a scandal</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41343" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Cruiserweight had an upper limit of Lightweight.<p> All Action(horrible name...) has an upper limit of Middleweight.</p><p> </p><p> Question of my own. I just started a TCW 2005 game and I'm wondering how to have a successful Hardcore division?</p><p> </p><p> You start with Genghis Rahn and Madnman Boone in the division and neither is all that great or that bad even. Boone is the champion and is young enough to become the star of the division, but just looking to see who everyone else thinks I should sign for a successful Hardcore Division.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="a0161613" data-cite="a0161613" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41343" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>My favourite save in actual TEW 2005 was with DAVE. I would start there.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Agreed. Poaching from DaVE would be the best idea given that the roster is synonymous with hardcore matches. It's also a good way to bring up guys like Leroy (Sayeed Ali)</p>

<p>SWF's biggest competition isn't USPW or TCW, it's SOTBPW. It's a really one-sided ordeal too, with their ability to poach almost all of your top stars while theirs are basically untouchable unless you're international or you are the owner and overpay their guys.</p><p> </p><p> TCW is honestly more of a service for SWF than anything. They build up good in-ring workers for you to poach. USPW's usually self-destructs with its bad booking. But SOTBPW books highly rated matches, re-signs almost all of its talent without resistance and poaches half of the biggest stars in the US and basically anyone notable in OLLIE, EMLL and CILL. </p><p> </p><p> I found the only way to deal with them are through national battles. If you add on guys like Marat and Rocky and retain Bruce and Remo, you should have enough to beat them handily, and push them to cult. Also, building young stars that can't work in Mexico is really handy in not having to worry about SOTBPW.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="cappyboy" data-cite="cappyboy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="44552" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Since 2005. I remember him being Prince Adam and thinking how doomed he was. Ridiculous look complete with the Beatles impersonator hair. Boring character. No discernible talent that stood out. I must have neglected to look at his star quality back then because he certainly had nothing else to recommend him. Honestly would have figured him for a career of jobbing to DeColts rather than a major player in a marquee promotion. Best thing that I can say about Golden is that his success demonstrates how realistic the C-Verse is for better or worse.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Wait, that's unfair criticism for C Verse. Mean Mark, Prototype, Terra Ryzing, Leakee, there's a bunch of main eventers that are straddled with bad gimmicks when they're climbing up the card or wrestling in the indies. Especially since you have a large plodding heavyweight wrestling in a cruiserweight company, there's definitely not very high of a ceiling for Rocky in CZCW. </p><p> </p><p> I equate him to Roman because he's the heavyweight face of a roster mostly comprised of smaller, more skilled workers.</p>

<p>If you're playing a 1997 save:</p><p> </p><p> Mikey James: Ricky Steamboat (talented, regional guy with a martial arts gimmick)</p><p> </p><p> Everest: Post-Japan Albert/Tensai (boring, slow worker that just returned from Japan but looks menacing)</p><p> </p><p> The Stones: The Harts</p><p> </p><p> The Elementals: The Tiger Masks</p><p> </p><p> Optimus: Jushin Thunder Liger</p><p> </p><p> KC Glenn: AJ Styles</p><p> </p><p> Sammy Bach: CM Punk (Bach has great mic skills but you need to bank on a good roll for him to have Punk-like talent)</p><p> </p><p> Nicky Champion: John Cena</p><p> </p><p> Rocky Golden: Roman Reigns</p><p> </p><p> El Patron: Santo</p><p> </p><p> The Monteros: The Guerreros </p><p> </p><p> Puerto Rican Power: Ricky Banderas/Mil Muertes, with a side of Batista</p><p> </p><p> Henry Lee: Sandman</p><p> </p><p> Greg Black: Shelton Benjamin</p><p> </p><p> Steve Decolt: Heavyweight Chris Jericho</p><p> </p><p> Killer Shark: Braun Strowman</p><p> </p><p> Primus Allen: Moose</p><p> </p><p> Your best bets for a Punk parallel would be either Bach or maybe an anti-authority character with good mic skills like Citizen X. For Orton, I would use Jay Chord, but Cameron Vessey or Brett Starr can work as well.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="NewbWoody" data-cite="NewbWoody" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41359" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>A quick question for anyone that is a bit more familiar with the company. I'm having a hard time getting even B rated matches. The product is the same I haven't made any changes. Are their any road agent notes that will help with matches?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Nobody's answered your question so I'll go ahead. For TV shows you want to have 20+ minute, multi-tag matches. Usually, regular match is fine, high-spots is good for midcard Super Junior matches. </p><p> </p><p> If you're playing the company like its real world counterpart NJPW, you rarely have main eventers go one on one, and you don't have a world title shot every PPV. If you're struggling to pull good grades, choose an avatar with high motivation and low creativity, raise locker room morale, and make sure you're booking matches longer (15-25 minutes is typically good enough).</p>