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Massive misconception about Brock. He's not a yes man but he will do business with people willingly. He will put people over but he won't do it in the stupid ways WWE creative want him to. It's ironic. Austin left the company in 2002 because he wanted to put Brock over properly and not on Raw with no build and for no money. Brock is able to have that sort of power now because he is so good and doesn't need the job. I don't understand the Brock hate. He is the best in the world right now, IMO, and I'm no WWE fan.

Thank you. I mean, you'd think it would be easier to find, haha.

Maybe I'm being thick, but how do you release workers from contracts?

Don't think I've had success with Dirty Tricks in 13, 16 or 20

Not sure if you were aware, but your mod starts in 2021.

Give him a contract that is set to expire after the PPV and people can either resign him or not.

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In short, as it stands, products can't be edited in the database which some have argued takes away a lot of fun for them and a lot of freedom for mod makers. I'm not sure whether Adam is going to change anything because I have't actually seen him respond to the criticism. Everything is a bit hush-hush at the moment for some reason.

Wheel decide?

I don't think Genadi has any plans to release any mods at this moment because of the product customisation debate. It would be a tremendous shame if he didn't but he has the right to not work with a product he doesn't agree with. Hopefully compromise can be reached before release or in a post-release patch.

Any word from Adam on where he stands on product customisation?

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="TOTKingNothing" data-cite="TOTKingNothing" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="48323" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Read as: "I can have my version of fun, so I hope other people can't have theirs. Even though if they could have their version of fun, it wouldn't actually affect my ability to have my fun."<p> </p><p> People aren't asking for the presets to be changed for <em>everyone</em>, they're asking to be able to change them <em>themselves</em>.</p><p> </p><p> If this was an online game where a change would affect everyone, you'd have a leg to stand on.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You're welcome to your interpretation, mate, or you could read it as I intended it. If the customisation of products/presets cannot be integrated without fundamentally changing the game we have currently, it should not be implemented as it would ruin it for the majority. If it can be implemented without affecting the game, then I have no problem with it being implemented. It doesn't matter to me how people play. What matters is my enjoyment and I won't tacitly agree to sweeping fundamental changes to please the few who like to tamper with the settings. Like I say, if everyone can be satisfied at the end of this, everybody wins and we all get a pleasant, enjoyable experience.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="marcstephens123" data-cite="marcstephens123" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="48323" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Fully agree with you, i think the game has come under so much unneeded criticism, just after tips to see if anybody found working method for a at least a few 70 rated matches.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It's hard to say in such a small window. Two months doesn't really give ample time, like Historian said, to establish any sort of heat or build any sort of momentum. Additionally, the mods still aren't going to be in a place where they can properly utilise game mechanics because there hasn't been enough time. More patience is required from those of us who main RW mods, I'm afraid, but like I say, when the mod makers are able to get everything properly in place, I think the game and the mods will make for some brilliant gaming, so the wait is well worth it.</p>

<p>Seems like a more organic pop growth is at play which is brilliant imo. Just had a test game with CWW and their pop is twelve and I got 39 and 42 in my two shows with no pop gain. Looking at it realistically, how quickly is a fed that draws 60 people to Peter Kay's Working Men's Club going to grow? I think a better gauge at this level would be attendance increase or decrease as surely word of mouth is the primary means of exposure for such a small company, by 'eck. I saw no pop gain after my first show, but more people attended my second.</p><p> </p><p> True immersion would be the removal of pop ratings altogether with only ticket sales, tv ratings, event buys and merch sales the only way to track success or failure.</p>

The potential to create anything is infinite, I agree, but what percentage of created products actually succeed? Wrestling fits a certain mould. Always has. Were there minor deviations within what we define as wrestling? Indeed. Compare the territories. However, historically, wrestling has been a relatively restrictive product in terms of what we can expect to see. Now, I understand that there are people who enjoyed the customisation aspect of prior games. I get that. I don't fully understand the appeal, but then I like sims. I like realism and immersion. However, I do respect the rights of others to like what they like. However, this community has long been calling for greater immersion and greater realism and Adam has finally given us that. This game has been rebuilt from the ground up to meet the demands of the community. Sacrifices have to be made. To create a realistic, immersive simulation, some customisation needs to be removed, in my opinion. The terms of what constitutes wrestling need to be narrowed to truly reflect the realistic definition of wrestling. If this game works best by removing the customisation of one element, then that element needs to be removed. I'm sorry that you can't create a Japanese comedy fed where every wrestler is based on anime and every loser gets ejected from the arena in a cartoonish manner, but NJPW is the top dog in Japan for a reason. It's wrestling. I'm loving what I've seen from this game so far. Dave Meltzer would give it five stars, but he still prefers Okada v Omega. I hope the community can come to love the game for what it is and find enjoyment in what we have been given and not get hung up on this one point. But, who knows, maybe Adam will put it back in.

The game has been made more realistic and immersive from what I've been able to tell. I don't think it will be possible to play as WWE and automatically get great ratings in everything that is booked unless mod makers edit their database to make WWE outstandingly and unrealistically good. Properly made mods have the potential to be brilliant. Got a bit boring booking the Attitude Era and getting 85+ on every show guaranteed. I want it to be reflected that sometimes, even in that period, Raw and Nitro were terrible TV. I want to struggle against my opponents and not get a guaranteed win because Austin is red hot and the AI can't book for shit. I believe this game will finally be the one to get us as close as possible to the reality of wrestling which is why I am so concerned with the recent criticisms of the game. I sincerely hope Adam stays true to his vision for this game and doesn't backtrack due to an overly vocal minority.

I might start manually raising my company pop when my show is over my current pop level even if it isn't enough to normally see growth. Why? Because it's fun to play a sandbox wrestling experience... Where does the simulation/sandbox line get drawn? Can't have it both ways. I'd rather the game reflect the world, and the products available are and always have been narrow. It's wrestling. Not create a wrestler with every stat and physical proportion set to max. That's my humble opinion.

Nothing worse than a game accurately reflecting how bad WWE is now... Why would you want to tweak anything? Book your way out of it unless there are ridiculous penalties being applied.

Hint: real world mods aren't going to work properly unless properly setup. You can't just convert a database and expect the mod to work. They won't, but that is no reflection on the game itself. Try playing the default database for the time being.

This...

What's with all the aggression and hostility? It's a trial/beta, not a chance to play for free. The point is to identify issues with the game so they can be resolved. Anything highlighted will be sorted, I'm sure. Adam could have put the game on hold for months for extensive testing. Hell, he didn't even have to make the game. Show a little gratitude, show a little humility and show some patience. I've played one week and booked one show and the game seems so different that I don't feel I can give any sort of constructive criticism or praise at the moment. It all feels so overwhelming with all of the changes, but I'm excited by all of them. Just need to get out of the habit of looking for a worker's push I will just say, I can understand why some are struggling with the UI, but I don't have a problem with it. The information I need is easily accessible and that's all that matters to me. However, I don't like how I have to move segments up and down the card. I preferred being able to select a segment and quickly move it. I wasn't paying attention before and ended up swapping two angles over and over again. Just a small thing. Oh, and I love that I can use road agent notes in angles. Much better system, in my opinion. Looking forward to playing more tomorrow.

I'm struggling to login and join your page. Already have an account which I can't access as Discord keeps pushing for me register my jean-vic account, but then it won't take my e-mail as it's already registered. I'll try to login to my original account and join with that.

Tremendously excited to see what you can do with 2020.

Playing Lukkearthur's 2008 mod before he converts it to 2020. That and wishing time would move faster. Damned temporal perception!

Welcome back!