eayragt

Right, time to read back and see who that poisoner is. Not too many options...

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="ShadowedFlames" data-cite="ShadowedFlames" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I leave you with this thought, though, Don Destiny and cronies:<p> </p><p> <em>If no one targeted you, then how could you point yourself out in writeups?</em></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'll be honest, we're past "pick yourself out of a write up", and more into "what abilities could a Don or serial killer have". Which is why you and Destiny are coming up trumps. But you're not the only ones where that would work...</p>

You were outing who had active roles, not exactly what the roles were. Giving scum a good list of potential trackers, watchers, investigators, doctors...

The specific question had an effect of outing active Town roles. There are other questions...

Well, your questioning of trying to find out who had active night abilities certainly raised eyebrows....

If you're going to heavily deny being the poisoner, I might just believe you. You're being very specific about what you're denying...

Arrows, if you have been poisoned and we lynch SF, are you willing to test your theory tonight to give us some more information even in your death? No need to confirm right now, but if you do, I'll be watching. And if you don't, I don't blame you!

Personally, I still think you're non-town

Trouble is, if your role is part Army Vet, part scum/poisoner, you could quite happily hint at an Army Vet from early on... I'm going to change vote: ShadowedFlames, but we can come back this.

Actually, switch that round. Any evidence Destiny isn't the poisoner? SF claiming not to go out as the poisoner would be bold, but less so as Don. Destiny could be a poisoner / pho variant. vote: Destiny

I've read back on the write up where he claims to have investigated me, and I can place that. At this stage I have no idea who the poisoner is. Can't shake that the Don is either Destiny or ShadowFlames.

<p>Sorry, middle of the night bad for me actually reading.</p><p> </p><p> 1misread both the write up and BHKs post</p>

We do know that Emark targeted Arrows, and someone targeted the Hit man...

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BHK1978" data-cite="BHK1978" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>What in the actual hell is going on with that assassination attempt? <p> </p><p> From what I see Arrows is being attacked by the Poisoner, Emark saves Arrows from the Poisoner. Emark then dies by the Poisoner having been poisoned the previous night.</p><p> </p><p> But that does not make sense since the Poisoner has not used a gun up until this point. Or am I missing something?</p><p> </p><p> So is it the Poisoner did not do anything last night and there is one member of the Mafia left? Can/has a killer ever changed their M.O. in the write-ups before?</p><p> </p><p> I just do not get it.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Remark was poisoned the previous night.</p>

No poison last night?

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Two" data-cite="The Two" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>By my count, if Leon is legit, I'm already dead.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Well, you just have to play to your win condition now - is there anything you can say that you think will help your team about you, or your thoughts on others?</p><p> </p><p> Unless, of course, you die, you lose, in which case you may as well keep schtum...</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BHK1978" data-cite="BHK1978" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Yes. I had a series of one shots at my disposal.<p> </p><p> Night one I looked into him and got a result informing me that he was not town.</p><p> </p><p> I did not post the result because the whole Derek/Astil thing happened the next day. The way I looked at it was I had a kill at my disposal, I might as well use it on someone who I was pretty (this is Mafia after all, you cannot be completely sure) sure was not a member of the town.</p><p> </p><p> On the third night I was one of the ones following Arrows as I chose to protect him. This is mainly because I felt confident that both he and to a lesser extent you were both town. </p><p> </p><p> However, I did not want to risk targeting you because of what I thought your power might do to me. Also, they tried to kill Arrows during the previous phase so I decided I might as use it on him because I did not know if they would try to kill him again.</p><p> </p><p> I am now vanilla, all I have to offer is my vote and my gut feelings about other players. Right now my gut is telling me the Two is either Scum or the SK. I have felt that way since the Derek lynch.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Good job. You clearly should have been on my list of possible poisoner, even though you have shown that you're not. </p><p> </p><p> Down with staying on The Two. There's risk, but it's an easy fake claim, the daytime suspicion justifies it.</p>

Change vote: The Two Cause, as previously discussed and inaction...

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Destiny" data-cite="Destiny" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>When I first heard the claim I didn't believe it but that write-up does seem to fit for now. <strong>Change Vote: The Two</strong></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> At the moment that's my thought to. Save a counter claim (which is why I could understand scum being frustrated as fake claiming abilities is blimin' hard here) The Two would be my next port of call (because we can save the don for later I guess). No idea where we are on votes so I'll leave mine where it is at the moment.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Archer" data-cite="The Archer" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>results n1 imarevenant no result<p> n2 eayragt unsuccessful</p><p> n3 leion no result</p><p> n4 teh showtime no result</p><p> n5 the two unsuccessful</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You couldn't point to where we appear in the Night 2 write up could you?</p>

I sould point out that I typed that post then was distracted, so crossed with the claim...

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Destiny" data-cite="Destiny" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'd agree with you that we need to be looking at the names on that list. However, we're in danger of splitting the votes too much now.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="ShadowedFlames" data-cite="ShadowedFlames" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The first time Destiny was suspicious of me, I quite clearly said I don’t go out. That hasn’t changed. Go look at my post history if you need to since I’m at work right now and don’t have the time to do so.<p> </p><p> Arrows—“in the box” was me trying to guess what you were. You seemed to have way too much info for a single role so I was hoping you’d get the hint, without coming full out and saying it, of confirming you were a JOAT. JACK of all trades, JACK in the box. Probably too subtle on my end. I was wrong anyway, so it’s no matter now.</p><p> </p><p> Looking over my list, I’d have Archer as my top pick to be the poisoner. Which means I’d have to be lucky tonight as my ability only works on odd nights and this is t one of them.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Missed that. That'd put us down to two.</p><p> </p><p><strong> Vote: The Archer</strong></p><p> </p><p> Can you prove you're not the poisoner?</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Leion" data-cite="Leion" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>So did your name on purpose or was that a mistake?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Absolutely - unless anyone has done something that I don't know about, the only person who can prove I'm not the poisoner is dead, so you should be suspicious of me. I can sort of clear myself (not 100%, this is mafia after all) if needs be.</p><p> </p><p> Well, the poisoner can clear me as well, but they're not going to, are they?</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Leion" data-cite="Leion" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I honestly don't know why I am alive as well.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Because there's a lot of active, dangerous roles. Your role isn't as dangerous until we're approaching lynch or lose, so you're safe for a while.</p><p> </p><p> So, does the poisoner have to be one of the below, or have I missed someone:</p><p> </p><p> The Archer</p><p> The Two</p><p> ShadowedFlames</p><p> eayragt</p><p> </p><p> Out of those, some of them could still be the don as well, but the suspects for that role are suspiciously longer. For example, just throwing a name out there, Destiny's role could very much be a don add on...</p><p> </p><p> Of the above I know nothing of ShadowedFlames. The Two was high on my list, due to when he's been voting, but yesterday's aggressiveness, even in a mislynch, made me doubt myself.</p><p> </p><p> So</p><p> </p><p> <strong>Vote: ShadowedFlames</strong></p><p> </p><p> I think him and The Two are the best way to go for now.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Arrows" data-cite="Arrows" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46026" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Behind someone he couldnt target?<p> </p><p> Hows that work?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Derek's role was clear. </p><p> </p><p> Astil's role was not...</p>