Undertaker666 Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 [QUOTE=Jennie Bomb;430719]Can't you make him do it before he goes to bed? :p[/QUOTE] lol, anyone would think you're anxious to get your hands on the demo.... :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtCabana Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 [QUOTE=NickC13573;430706]why did I jump to the conclusion of Hogan when I read this part of the feature outline?[/QUOTE] :D :D I have no idea why you'd think of Hogan when you read that. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipshirt Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 I really like the new negotiation feature. One of my complaints about the old ways was that it really boiled down to matching what the wrestler said...there was no negotiation. You either gave him exactly what he wants or don't sign him. With the new feature it sounds like there are actual negotiations. Would you take less money per appearance but a bigger downside guarantee? Stuff like that makes the game more dynamic. I'm really looking forward to tomorrow's trial release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thriller Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 [QUOTE=Undertaker666;430721]lol, anyone would think you're anxious to get your hands on the demo.... :D[/QUOTE] Eh, I don't mind waiting. Probably enjoy it more if it's released at night actually. Reverse psychology working on you GDS folk? :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeemuFoundation Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 This sucks. I just remembered that it's just the demo being released tommorrow. Not the game. And now with no more journal updates coming up next week, waiting for the full version will be hell. Unless Adam makes it so that the game clock can be altered in the demo and I can actually try out my 1997 mod in the trial version. But I doubt it very much. Well, I guess I can wait a week longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurrikane Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 [QUOTE=TeemuFoundation;430738]This sucks. I just remembered that it's just the demo being released tommorrow. Not the game. And now with no more journal updates coming up next week, waiting for the full version will be hell. Unless Adam makes it so that the game clock can be altered in the demo and I can actually try out my 1997 mod in the trial version. But I doubt it very much. Well, I guess I can wait a week longer.[/QUOTE] Could you not replace the default data with the 1997 data? Then run a month with that data, and while the date will be off you can still check how everything works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladamire Dracos Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 [QUOTE=Hurrikane;430741]Could you not replace the default data with the 1997 data? Then run a month with that data, and while the date will be off you can still check how everything works.[/QUOTE] Half of WCW's M.E. scene would retire within the first week. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeemuFoundation Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 Technically yes, but no. It's a problem I have. If I can't play the data with the correct date, I can't play the data. It's the same with everything I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedraem41 Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 The last feature is awesome, it definitely cuts down on cheating and adds substance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisen-verse Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 [QUOTE]The last feature is awesome, it definitely cuts down on cheating and adds substance[/QUOTE] I agree. I was hoping that we would see some sort of overhaul when it came to contracts and I'm really happy to see this as the last feature! The game is all set now.... Lets fast forward to tomorrow, shall we? haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedraem41 Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 It could add in some drug suspicion as well if someone refuses to take the physical, which could add some huge drama. It just adds a ton to the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Cobra Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 [QUOTE=TeemuFoundation;430744]Technically yes, but no. It's a problem I have. If I can't play the data with the correct date, I can't play the data. It's the same with everything I do.[/QUOTE] What do you mean? You know you can set the date by going into "database info" and the Demo goes over the trial editor, so as long as your data is in a different folder from the default and its set to start in 1997, then I don't see why you can't try it for an in-game month....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeemuFoundation Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 [QUOTE=Cold Cobra;430769]What do you mean? You know you can set the date by going into "database info" and the Demo goes over the trial editor, so as long as your data is in a different folder from the default and its set to start in 1997, then I don't see why you can't try it for an in-game month....?[/QUOTE] Oh. Hmm. I do remember trying to do that with my 2002 game in the last TEW and it didn't work. But maybe I missed something. I'll try that tommorrow, thanks for informing me! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoganRodzen Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 The last entry was definitely [I][B][U]NOT[/U][/B][/I] a mediocre feature. The negotiations did need an overhaul and I'm happy Adam has addressed it - because it was flawed. I didn't expect this to be the last feature but I'm impressed and happy. :) I say we somehow move Arlie's clock forward 24 hours and he'll think it's June 1st and will release the game now. ;) Oh, Jobby McJobberson should make an appearance in the CornellVerse, Adam. I would sign him for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Cobra Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 [QUOTE=TeemuFoundation;430770]Oh. Hmm. I do remember trying to do that with my 2002 game in the last TEW and it didn't work. But maybe I missed something. I'll try that tommorrow, thanks for informing me! :)[/QUOTE] No problem, it's handily labeled "Please enter the month and year that the database is set in...." :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ping von Erich Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 I'm beyond psyched. This last entry is the definition of substance over flash, a solid fleshed out revamp of a feature they was always lacking. Bravo Adam, I have zero work tomorrow, all I'm doin is sitting around waiting to download this your latest masterpiece. Woot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matto Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 I've played TEW 2007, WRESpi, WRESPI 2, and WMMMA but haven't been a regular poster here on the forums. But with TEW 2008, quite literaly nearly here I just wanted to join the excitement, I've counted down the journal entries with everyone else, and been seriously logging onto the site twice a day for the last month. What makes this exciting is not just that its an improvement and sounds like a great step forward for an already peerless game, but the fact that GDS and ADAM have built on the creativity in the community. The fact that they have offered and accepted feed back, that Adam has been available on some issues, and has recognised the value of all of those within the TEW playing community who put together their own Mods, or Cuts or Logos and renders. As someone who plays without the talent to do any of those things, I'm just going to congratulate Adam on what looks set to be a great game, and congratulate all of you who by playing or modding or being on these forums have contributed, Just my bits worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D16NJD16 Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 a big step forward and no steps backward always makes for a great game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisen-verse Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 [QUOTE]#100: Overhauled Negotiations [B]The third, more dynamic key concept is that of patience. Along the bottom of the screen is a patience bar that shows you how willing the worker is to negotiate.[/B] Every time you make an offer that gets rejected, it goes down. Where it gets interesting is that the amount that it goes down depends on multiple factors, including their personality and the situation. For example, if you're the biggest promotion in the world and you're negotiating with young Jobby McJobberson who would give his left arm to work for you, his patience will barely go down at all, as he really wants to work for you. But, by the same token, if you're a cult promotion and you're trying to lure a huge star into your promotion, his patience may go down massively with each failed attempt as he simply doesn't care all that much. [/QUOTE] Does this mean that you can negotiate with anyone no matter how large/small of a company you are? In the sense that no one can turn you away saying that "You aren't big enough" and will at least listen to an offer? If so, then I'm in love with the new feature! This makes it so you can possibly land a momentum shifting superstar for your promotion where as in the past they would have said no right away. Like if you're a cult company can you still negotiate with a guy who may be an A for popularity? He would just have a lower patience level so you really have to get it right on the first try? Just thought i'd ask! This game is going to own my life! haha. I can't wait to take hold of SWF (hence, my name on the boards here). Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hixx Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 [QUOTE=Eisen-verse;430811] This game is going to own my life! [/QUOTE] I have been a lurker for a long time and usually don't post often, but when I saw this post I couldn't resist. This game is going to own ALL our lives. Can I get a amen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zinkywinks Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 [QUOTE=Adam Ryland]Added to this is the fact that negotiations now only happen once, there is no "let's come back tomorrow and try again" any more, and you cannot exit negotiations once they've started. All of these items means that there can be a lot of tension when trying to cut big deals, as if you mess up, you mess up - there's no second chances.[/QUOTE] This worries me. Does that mean if I try to sign a 22 year old that I believe could be the future of the company in a couple years and don't get him for whatever reason, that I'll never be able to sign him? Not even if 10 years go by, he'll never ever be availible? I'm definitely not liking that part if I'm taking it how it's written. Clarification? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Ryland Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 [QUOTE=zinkywinks;430821]This worries me. Does that mean if I try to sign a 22 year old that I believe could be the future of the company in a couple years and don't get him for whatever reason, that I'll never be able to sign him? Not even if 10 years go by, he'll never ever be availible? I'm definitely not liking that part if I'm taking it how it's written. Clarification?[/QUOTE] Why would I write it to do that? It wouldn't be realistic or a good game feature :confused: It's the same as before, if you blow the negotiation then you have to wait a while before you can attempt it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zinkywinks Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 [QUOTE=Adam Ryland;430823]Why would I write it to do that? It wouldn't be realistic or a good game feature :confused: It's the same as before, if you blow the negotiation then you have to wait a while before you can attempt it again.[/QUOTE] Thanks Adam, I guess my mind was playing tricks on me reading that differently. I didnt think you'd write it like that, but, eh :) Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thriller Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 In case people want to read specific journal entries without searching through the topic, and because I have lots of time on my hands, a list of the features linked to their respective post. :) [LIST=1] [*][URL="http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=368947&postcount=2"]Personality Plus[/URL] [*][URL="http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=369436&postcount=3"]Bad Blood[/URL] [*][URL="http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=369931&postcount=4"]National Battle[/URL] [*][URL="http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=370416&postcount=5"]Injury Realism[/URL] [*][URL="http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=371132&postcount=6"]Multi Advance[/URL] [*][URL="http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=371565&postcount=7"]Worker / New Worker Combination[/URL] [*][URL="http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=372014&postcount=8"]The Hall Of Immortals[/URL] 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Eisen-verse Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 Thanks Thriller! I was planning on going through all of the new features today & Tonight so by tomorrow I already know what it is I should be looking for! Thanks again for posting that all. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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