Moderndaywarrior Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="olympia" data-cite="olympia" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="23888" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You are right in that first show he killed everyone even George Weingeroff who was like the Authority Figure<p> Is George still on the roster? haven't seen him around.</p><p> BTW, was sad to see you had to let Tony Peters go since he went to school with my dad. But totally understand why for game purposes, wish his buddy Ron Wright was included somewhere. He was always a riot waiting to happen.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I can't seem to remember if George is just not on the roster or if he is deceased.Knowing the way TEW works though,it will say ICW is too small for an authority figure.<img alt=":(" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/frown.png.e6b571745a30fe6a6f2e918994141a47.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Now Ron Wright I thought I saw in game somewhere,but I could be wrong......Don Carson definitely is,IIRC Ron Wright sold out Knoxville with Don Carson and also Whitey Caldwell back in the 70's.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olback Posted August 19, 2009 Author Share Posted August 19, 2009 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Moderndaywarrior" data-cite="Moderndaywarrior" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="23888" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I can't seem to remember if George is just not on the roster or if he is deceased.Knowing the way TEW works though,it will say ICW is too small for an authority figure.<img alt=":(" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/frown.png.e6b571745a30fe6a6f2e918994141a47.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> Now Ron Wright I thought I saw in game somewhere,but I could be wrong......Don Carson definitely is,IIRC Ron Wright sold out Knoxville with Don Carson and also Whitey Caldwell back in the 70's.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> George Weingeroff is on my roster and an active wrestler. He mainly teams with Lanny Poffo (3 time tag champs) and occasional with Jim Gibson (as a jobber tag team).</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderndaywarrior Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Olback" data-cite="Olback" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="23888" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>George Weingeroff is on my roster and an active wrestler. He mainly teams with Lanny Poffo (3 time tag champs) and occasional with Jim Gibson (as a jobber tag team).</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Oh jeez,you're right....he's even been in the diary...for some reason or another I was thinking we were talking about George's dad,"Gentleman" Saul Weingeroff,who managed tag teams down around Memphis for many,many years.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olympia Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 maybe one of these days GW will follow in his father Saul's footsteps. "Gentleman George" Weingeroff....has a nice ring to it. Maybe he can give Jimmy Hart a run for his money as ICW manager of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olback Posted September 8, 2009 Author Share Posted September 8, 2009 Sorry have not contuined this diary for a while, been very very busy at work. Will hope to get some free time soon and extend this diary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHK1978 Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Cool, whenever you bring it back is good with me. You know I will still be here reading it. Just glad to see it is not dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderndaywarrior Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 I'll be here too,I'm intersted to see how it plays out with the roster(which got some much needed upgrades);if/when you can start making a run at Jarrett/Lawler in Memphis it will be VERY interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olympia Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 glad to see things are still alive. This is fun because its not just the big names and big dollars which is why it's the first to hook me in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHK1978 Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 glad to see things are still alive. This is fun because its not just the big names and big dollars which is why it's the first to hook me in. I agree with that, I did not even know 90% of your original roster but I forced me to look them up and read about them. And through olympia, Moderndaywarrior, and for a time oldschool, I learned about these different wrestlers. So in a sense this is a bit of a history lesson for me. I mean heck I thought this was going to be about the ICW that used to be run out of New England back in the 1990's. I had never even heard of this promotion, I mean I knew that Randy Savage's dad owned a promotion but I did not know the name of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderndaywarrior Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 I agree with that, I did not even know 90% of your original roster but I forced me to look them up and read about them. And through olympia, Moderndaywarrior, and for a time oldschool, I learned about these different wrestlers. So in a sense this is a bit of a history lesson for me. I mean heck I thought this was going to be about the ICW that used to be run out of New England back in the 1990's. I had never even heard of this promotion, I mean I knew that Randy Savage's dad owned a promotion but I did not know the name of it. The confusion is understandable,it seems ICW are fairly common initials for "indy" type promotions;I can also recall another ICW run be Gene LeBell out of L.A.(I think) so that makes 3 of them and there's probably others I missed. What makes Angelo Poffo's ICW interesting is the level of talent they had featured: you had Savage and Poffo,then at various times they also had Ron Garvin,Bob Roop,Bob Orton Jr.,Ox Baker,then guys like Rip Rogers and Pez Whatley....all very talented,professional,and world class talent,and almost all in their prime,which is far beyond most "indies",which usually have one or two "ok" guys but certainly noone like Savage who could(and did) headline any "major promotion;even if they do have someone with "name value" it's usaually a guy 10 or 20 years past his prime and 50 pounds overweight. Good to see you are taking and interest and learning a little BHK;in a world where people get all worked up over "the next big thing",and where Vinny Mac rewrites history daily,there aren't many who are willing to take a look back at how we got here,which is a shame because maybe if more people did,they'd have a little more respect for the business instead of treating it like a stuntman show or action movie seqeunce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olympia Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0ni_2UcFDg&feature=fvw youtube of the ICW opening theme (including rare footage from match where Ronnie Garvin BEAT Andre the Giant). something to tide us over until you return Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderndaywarrior Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0ni_2UcFDg&feature=fvw youtube of the ICW opening theme (including rare footage from match where Ronnie Garvin BEAT Andre the Giant). something to tide us over until you return Odd but fun little factoids: The guy near the beginning with the red mask and sequin cape with the $ sign is "The Miser", who is actually Angelo Poffo with a mask....he based the gimmick off his somewhat well known reputation for being one of the cheapest people on the planet. The sign with the big CB on it stands for Canadian Bumblebee,another somewhat well known gimmick from ICW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHK1978 Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 So they used to use the Midnight Express theme song as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderndaywarrior Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 So they used to use the Midnight Express theme song as well. Lol yes...the theme from the movie Midnight Express.....to be fair though, ICW was using it before Bobby Eation and Dennis Condrey became The Midnight Express. Kinda funny to think they used that, JYD had Queen (Another One Bites The Dust), The Freebirds had Skynyrd(Freebird)....in small regionals....if they did that today it would cost them ungodly sums of money to get permission for the songs....probably way more than a regional promotion or your average wrestle could reasonably afford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderndaywarrior Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 A little something random from ICW: Ron Garvin stomps Ox Baker's dentures: Garvin tells us the "truth" about Randy Savage: The ending of the "Miss Macho Man" contest: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHK1978 Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Ron Garvin stomps Ox Baker's dentures: I had heard about this but never got a chance to see it! That was great stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderndaywarrior Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 I loved that interview by Ox..... "I ordered a steak but I couldn't eat it! I had to go to the sotre and get a can of soup!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olympia Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Moderndaywarrior" data-cite="Moderndaywarrior" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="23888" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Lol yes...the theme from the movie Midnight Express.....to be fair though, ICW was using it before Bobby Eation and Dennis Condrey became The Midnight Express.<p> </p><p> Kinda funny to think they used that, JYD had Queen (Another One Bites The Dust), The Freebirds had Skynyrd(Freebird)....in small regionals....if they did that today it would cost them ungodly sums of money to get permission for the songs....probably way more than a regional promotion or your average wrestle could reasonably afford.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> some of the very small indys still use the big name songs today. Not sure if they somehow got permission or if they are just so small that no one notices</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHK1978 Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="olympia" data-cite="olympia" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="23888" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>some of the very small indys still use the big name songs today. Not sure if they somehow got permission or if they are just so small that no one notices</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Okay this is way off topic but a local car wash is named So Fresh and So Clean and they use the Outkast song in their commercials. And I had always wonder if they got Outkast's permission or they were just so small that nobody noticed.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHK1978 Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 Just wanted to bump this for others to see. I wish Oldback would bring this back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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