DaMegaFish Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="K-Nection" data-cite="K-Nection" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><a href="http://heavy.com/sports/2016/07/wwe-ratings-low-viewers-viewership-monday-night-raw-july-4-show-2016-smackdown-record-20-year-brand-split-roman-reigns/" rel="external nofollow">http://heavy.com/sports/2016/07/wwe-ratings-low-viewers-viewership-monday-night-raw-july-4-show-2016-smackdown-record-20-year-brand-split-roman-reigns/</a><p> </p><p> </p><p> Lowest Raw rating in 20 years.....that's a heck of an accomplishment. I know I never watch the show live anymore because I blatantly can't digest 3 hours of what they are putting out. Is it really that many people are watching it on Hulu or is it a sign that we are on a continued downward trend?</p><p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It's a lot of factors. Streaming sites like Hulu, illegal streaming sites, DVR, a lot more options in cable channels, a holiday that involves people being out at night...</p><p> </p><p> Other than the last one, WWE goes against all those other things on a weekly basis. It's not a surprise that ratings are lower. Obviously though they do great because USA is promoting their move to Tuesday nights and going live, if they were falling hard USA wouldn't have even bothered picking up Smackdown less than a year ago, let alone be marketing this move to Tuesdays like it is a big deal.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CQI13 Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 <p>Any word on the tiered pricing they were thinking of for the Network? I think it was Triple H that had floated the question out for having the main shows (RAW and SD) added the following day for $3.00 more.</p><p> </p><p> I'm assuming they would leave the $9.99 alone (and you'd get the RAW/SD replays 4 weeks later) and for $12.99 you'd get RAW on Tuesday and SD on Wednesday.</p><p> </p><p> Would there be any traction for that?</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 I'm actually surprised they chose Randy. I was thinking either Cesaro or Sheamus. (or maybe if they really wanted to they could have gone for Sami Zayn) Nonetheless, Randy hasn't returned yet so you never know, maybe he'll have a few matches on RAW before his match against Brock. All I know is that it's going to be a interesting match. (And possibly a dream match I think) Having Lesnar squash (at best it will be a glorified squash) a popular babyface would put heat on WWE. Sheamus wouldn't be exciting enough to promote. Orton has nothing to lose after being off TV so long and still has name value, so he was the only real option. http://heavy.com/sports/2016/07/wwe-ratings-low-viewers-viewership-monday-night-raw-july-4-show-2016-smackdown-record-20-year-brand-split-roman-reigns/ Lowest Raw rating in 20 years.....that's a heck of an accomplishment. I know I never watch the show live anymore because I blatantly can't digest 3 hours of what they are putting out. Is it really that many people are watching it on Hulu or is it a sign that we are on a continued downward trend? 4th of July and Tribute to the Troops are the 2 most skippable shows every year. At least the Xmas and Halloween episodes have fun street fights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rd_dbacks01 Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="K-Nection" data-cite="K-Nection" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><a href="http://heavy.com/sports/2016/07/wwe-ratings-low-viewers-viewership-monday-night-raw-july-4-show-2016-smackdown-record-20-year-brand-split-roman-reigns/" rel="external nofollow">http://heavy.com/sports/2016/07/wwe-ratings-low-viewers-viewership-monday-night-raw-july-4-show-2016-smackdown-record-20-year-brand-split-roman-reigns/</a><p> </p><p> </p><p> Lowest Raw rating in 20 years.....that's a heck of an accomplishment. I know I never watch the show live anymore because I blatantly can't digest 3 hours of what they are putting out. Is it really that many people are watching it on Hulu or is it a sign that we are on a continued downward trend?</p><p> </p><p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It was still the most watched show on cable.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecoolestjedi12 Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Really enjoying the fact that Big Cass has gotten so much mic time on the main roster, really turning into a total package, really worried about Enzo and his ring work lately, hopefully he gets a little better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anggur Merah Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Make Darren Young great again! I lolled hard when he won the battle royale. Well, that's interesting. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwt13 Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 WWE copying TNA with this Wyatt/New Day stuff is something else, they can't stand for another company to be talked about more. It also doesn't have near as much interest as the final deletion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packerman120 Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Wyatt Compound was better than Final Deletion. I'll just leave this here. *whistles inconspicuously* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evileddie10 Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Wyatt Compound was better than Final Deletion. I'll just leave this here. *whistles inconspicuously* Agreed. The Wyatt Compound had a nice horror movie vibe going. Some very subtle racism at the end with a "we dont take kindly to your type round here". While I don't want to say racism is good in any shape or form, it helped the story here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurphy1014 Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 They both accomplished what they were tying to do. TNA's did not take itself seriously and was entertaining. WWE's was darker and more supernatural (fitting in with Wyatt's gimmick) and it was entertaining as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwt13 Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Wyatt Compound was better than Final Deletion. I'll just leave this here. *whistles inconspicuously* I disagree, it was just a bland segment not bad not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackman Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Any word on the tiered pricing they were thinking of for the Network? I think it was Triple H that had floated the question out for having the main shows (RAW and SD) added the following day for $3.00 more. I'd love that. Now I have to download all the shows through bittorrent to keep up, which is a lot of extra work for something I pay for. WWE network is just for PPV's en NXT. I can't even watch it on my notebook if I'm not home given it struggles to play HQ videos (and there's no option for LQ). It's what the lowered ratings indicate. Few people still watch TV on the traditional way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 <p>Wow, Vince announced that RAW and Smackdown will be controlled by Steph and Shane, what a surprise... I never saw that coming.</p><p> </p><p> I miss the times when Vince didn't want to "insult the audience's intelligence".</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecoolestjedi12 Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Motor" data-cite="Motor" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Wow, Vince announced that RAW and Smackdown will be controlled by Steph and Shane, what a surprise... I never saw that coming.<p> </p><p> I miss the times when Vince didn't want to "insult the audience's intelligence".</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I don't think there was every a time it looked like they wouldn't to be honest, every since the brand extension was announced, it would be assumed that both shane and steph would take on-screen authority roles due to their past history and the building up of their power struggle, while I won't congratulate WWE on a grand move by putting the two in charge, I think it was the only way to go, people boo Steph, they cheer Shane, the two garner fan response, and other than a few hall of famers on legend contracts or guys who recently retired, not many non-wrestlers gain that response, I'm thinking Shane chooses a face for his GM and Steph chooses a heel gm</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="thecoolestjedi12" data-cite="thecoolestjedi12" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I don't think there was every a time it looked like they wouldn't to be honest, every since the brand extension was announced, it would be assumed that both shane and steph would take on-screen authority roles due to their past history and the building up of their power struggle, while I won't congratulate WWE on a grand move by putting the two in charge, I think it was the only way to go, people boo Steph, they cheer Shane, the two garner fan response, and other than a few hall of famers on legend contracts or guys who recently retired, not many non-wrestlers gain that response, I'm thinking Shane chooses a face for his GM and Steph chooses a heel gm</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It's great and interesting to see both of them given control of their own shows, but everyone knew it since the brand extension has been announced.</p><p> </p><p> But they still acted like it was a big surprise during a nearly 20 minutes long segment at the end of last monday's show, although everyone knew this would happen. That's just bad television, no surprises anymore.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CQI13 Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 <p>I didn't see the segment, but was the surprise more at that they would each have a GM under them?</p><p> </p><p> Also, if it wasn't Steph & Shane, people would be crapping over it "It makes no sense! The build up was for them to be the ones leading the brand extension."</p><p> </p><p> Hope we see Laurinitis on RAW, playing kiss ass to Steph and Teddy Long on Smackdown working with Shane.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabataged Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="CQI13" data-cite="CQI13" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I didn't see the segment, but was the surprise more at that they would each have a GM under them?<p> </p><p> Also, if it wasn't Steph & Shane, people would be crapping over it "It makes no sense! The build up was for them to be the ones leading the brand extension."</p><p> </p><p> Hope we see Laurinitis on RAW, playing kiss ass to Steph and Teddy Long on Smackdown working with Shane.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I have no idea who will run RAW. I would love for it to be Eric Bischoff or someone.</p><p> </p><p> For smackdown I think that one has already slipped on to the internet. I won't spoil it for those who have not seen it.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Final Countdown Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="CQI13" data-cite="CQI13" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> Hope we see Laurinitis on RAW, playing kiss ass to Steph and Teddy Long on Smackdown working with Shane.</p></div></blockquote><p> I'm sick of heel authority figures in general, but Teddy Long isn't much better. Playa.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecoolestjedi12 Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 Personally I'm hoping for Bischoff to run Raw, but I think it might be Big Johnny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="CQI13" data-cite="CQI13" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I didn't see the segment, but was the surprise more at that they would each have a GM under them?<p> </p><p> Also, if it wasn't Steph & Shane, people would be crapping over it "It makes no sense! The build up was for them to be the ones leading the brand extension."</p><p> </p><p> Hope we see Laurinitis on RAW, playing kiss ass to Steph and Teddy Long on Smackdown working with Shane.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> This "build-up" is what bothers me. It was clear since Wrestlemania - that's more than three months - that this brand extension would take place in exactly this way, there were also rumors since Shane was back in February.</p><p> </p><p> Perhaps it is because I grew up during the attitude era, but when I watch a three hour tv show I don't want to see something like a surprising turn or alliance or whatever that makes me curious about the next show and not 20 minutes of three people standing in the ring and talking about sh*t we already know but acting like it was a big announcement.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RKOwnage Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 I want Bischoff and Bryan. Actually, I want a terrible RAW GM and a roster I don't like so I won't feel bad cutting back on my wrestling intake. And Bryan on SmackDown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CQI13 Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 Someone like Coach (in the Bischoff days) would be great for Raw. There is no way that Steph would pick someone that would challenge her. And Shane, being the face, would probably pick someone that he would work alongside. Any truth to the rumor that AJ Styles and Cena will be the figureheads of SD with Seth Rollins being the main guy on Raw (with Roman playing second fiddle to him)? Someone had said that people backstage were pushing for AJ to feature prominently - not unlike Stone Cold has done on his podcast and other interviews. It'd be good to see that (AJ benefiting, not necessarily Roman suffering). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iruleall15 Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 <p>HHH is gonna be Raw GM I bet.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Smackdown im clueless. Please got no Teddy Long, Vicky, Johnny. Someone new and fresh. Thinking Daniel Bryan</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackman Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 Trips on RAW would be a fresh take on the formula. In any event, the autority angle has run its course. Let's not have that anymore. I'm liking the rumor it's Daniel Bryan, but there could be better alternatives (though I can't come up with any atm except BookerT). I'm also curious to the nature of the brand extension. Ready to be surprised. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecoolestjedi12 Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 Cruiserweight Classic was fantastic, awesome seeing Ibushi main Eventing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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