The Official WWE / NXT Discussion Thread *May Contain Spoilers*

[Astil]

Any one else catch the Lance Storm nod? "If I can be serious for a moment"

[djthefunkchris]

The thing is we see multiple "Cross" brand matches every year and Half the rosters on both Raw and Smackdown have been on the "rivals" roster at one point or another so I find it hard to believe that a superstar can be loyal to a brand when he was apart of the other brand only a few months before hand

 

That's another thing entirely, which seems to happen when people are injured, or just to enhance the other roster.

 

All kinds of things lead to this, but I think the main thing is that it's totally unbelievable that they are actually in any competition what-so-ever with each other. I'm sure there are those that like one over the other, and do actually see them as seperate, but... for the most part it has been ruined, and the things you pointed out doesn't help them either.

 

There is nothing wrong with worker's going back and forth, but they say "Trade" not sold or kicked off one to go on the other, etc. Edge was probably the closest one that looked like a GM got mad and booted him off the show, but... as was said, your going to Smackdown. Edge saying "GOOD" kind of.. ya know, spoils it. I don't think they are even really trying to keep it seperate anymore.

 

Fact is, I think they are unifying the belts, just to be able to focus on less belts between brands, and bring the worker's on both shows even more.

[fatallylost]

One thing I never understood... we had Bragging Rights last year. Then it was never mentioned again, really, until Smackdown's move to SyFy when the Dudebusters grabbed the trophy to move it.

 

Also, couldn't they have just had the main event at Survivor Series be this match anyway?

 

Wait.. sorry... logic. I take back my questions.

[MattitudeV2]

One thing I never understood... we had Bragging Rights last year. Then it was never mentioned again, really, until Smackdown's move to SyFy when the Dudebusters grabbed the trophy to move it.

 

Also, couldn't they have just had the main event at Survivor Series be this match anyway?

 

Wait.. sorry... logic. I take back my questions.

 

Yeah that would take WWE some logic to explain but this is the WWE we are talking they just setup Daniel Bryan vs. Dolph Ziggler in one night...

[ampulator]

I've said this before, and I'll say this again. WWE is slowly phasing out their brand split. They have definitely done it at areas where hhey don't have a big enough roster. For example, their women's and tag divsion has been recombined.

 

It's doubtful if they would speed this up, (I don't htink they will), but I doubt they are merging the top two belts, at least. They get enough exposure.

[djthefunkchris]

I've said this before, and I'll say this again. WWE is slowly phasing out their brand split. They have definitely done it at areas where hhey don't have a big enough roster. For example, their women's and tag divsion has been recombined.

 

It's doubtful if they would speed this up, (I don't htink they will), but I doubt they are merging the top two belts, at least. They get enough exposure.

 

I was under the impression that those were the belts Vince is most interested in merging.

[LoNdOn]

Daniel Bryan dancing on Raw = All kinds of awesome

[ampulator]

I was under the impression that those were the belts Vince is most interested in merging.

Really? Why? Having two top champions is the not a bad idea. Hell, if you only have ONE top championship, it's going to squeeze the main event. There's simply a lot of top guys right now. If he merges, who's going to be the alernative to Cena, when he wins the title back?

[Wrestling Century]

Hey, did anybody else notice that "Stand Up For WWE" thing they advertised? What is that all about?

[Astil]

Hey, did anybody else notice that "Stand Up For WWE" thing they advertised? What is that all about?

 

Probably to help Linda in her Senate race. From what I hear around here she's lagging behind.

[PeterHilton]

Really? Why? Having two top champions is the not a bad idea. Hell, if you only have ONE top championship, it's going to squeeze the main event. There's simply a lot of top guys right now. If he merges, who's going to be the alernative to Cena, when he wins the title back?

 

All the net rumors are that Vince wanted a unification bout at WM. No real reason...just net rumours.

 

Hey, did anybody else notice that "Stand Up For WWE" thing they advertised? What is that all about?

 

Propoganda. Pure propoganda. It's a little disgusting to be honest. WWE mentioning it's USO dates and the stuff the do for Make-A-Wish is really fine; those are really good things they do. Even pimping out it's good deeds for marketing isn't really bad. But pounding it's chest week after week to try to debunk the stuff that Linda's senate opponents are saying about the E or the wrestling industry in general is cheap and just this side of legal.

[Candyman]

All the net rumors are that Vince wanted a unification bout at WM. No real reason...just net rumours.

 

You know, those rumors seemed really strange to me at the time they came out, and I still haven't seen anything to justify them. It's just sad that so many people (not saying you're one of them, I'm sure you're not) read something on a dirt sheet and take it as fact that it came straight from the WWE. Like a couple weeks ago when it was reported that they had a "huge angle" planned for Raw, and when it didn't happen, there were posts on other boards saying "what happened to the huge angle WWE promised us???"

 

It's possible they'll unify the titles, but it seems unlikely at best and laughable at worst. For all the talk about how the brand split is being phased out, the brands are still completely seperate entities for about 9 months out of the year - the only exceptions being the two months between the Royal Rumble and Wrestlemania, the couple weeks before Bragging Rights, and every couple months when they have a special Raw or SD with both brands on.

 

Propoganda. Pure propoganda. It's a little disgusting to be honest. WWE mentioning it's USO dates and the stuff the do for Make-A-Wish is really fine; those are really good things they do. Even pimping out it's good deeds for marketing isn't really bad. But pounding it's chest week after week to try to debunk the stuff that Linda's senate opponents are saying about the E or the wrestling industry in general is cheap and just this side of legal.

 

Are you familiar with American politics? This is pretty standard stuff. Frankly, I'm shocked and more than alittle ashamed that they didn't start doing something like this months ago.

[Basmat01]

Gerwick.net

WWE Chairman and CEO Vince McMahon was supposed to appear on RAW yesterday night to promote the Stand Up for WWE campaign which was introduced yesterday on WWE.COM with a video message taped by him. His appearance was even hyped on WWE.COM but later dropped as if nothing was ever announced. The Stand Up for WWE campaign took a prominent role on WWE.COM and the company uploaded a video of its long time employees talking about working for WWE and how long they’ve been employed, meeting their future husbands and wives there etc. In a blog on CTNews.com, Linda McMahon’s campaign spokesman Ed Patru said that they have nothing to do with the campaign which started because of all the negative press the company has been getting ever since Linda entered the race for Senate. “The company didn’t consult the campaign; we didn’t ask for anything. It acted independently,” Patru said in

an e-mail. (thanks to Colin Vassallo)

[matt1986]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="ampulator" data-cite="ampulator" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Really? Why? Having two top champions is the not a bad idea. Hell, if you only have ONE top championship, it's going to squeeze the main event. There's simply a lot of top guys right now. If he merges, who's going to be the alernative to Cena, when he wins the title back?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> What does everyone think about removing the brand split? Good idea? Bad idea?</p><p> </p><p> I persoally would love to see it, I've had enough of Raw vs Smackdown and don't buy into the "we're in competition with the other show" thinking at all.</p><p> </p><p> As for the main event being squeezed with one championship... how many main eventers are there at the moment? I count:</p><p> </p><p> Orton</p><p> Cena</p><p> Barret</p><p> Sheamus</p><p> Undertaker</p><p> Kane</p><p> Edge (although not really being used as one)</p><p> Miz (probably not quite there yet, but there's little doubt he will soon)</p><p> </p><p> Have I missed any? I'm not sure if it would be that squeezed at the top if there was only one World Title?</p>

[dvdWarrior]

<p>I think it's time to bring one of the world's best kept secrets to life, and for the first time ever, reveal a truth few people ever get to know about the WWE.</p><p> </p><p>

<a href="http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/fe0c630780/conspiracy-theory-with-jesse-ventura" rel="external nofollow">Critical Information that's been hidden for years</a></p><p> </p><p>

Click that link right there...</p><p> </p><p>

If you dare!!!!</p><p> </p><p>

Or if you just have a few minutes to spare, you know.</p><p> </p><p>

Whatever.</p><p> </p><p>

<img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>

Note: My apologies if that's been posted before, I just found it and thought it was amusing.</p>

[PeterHilton]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Candyman" data-cite="Candyman" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> It's possible they'll unify the titles, but it seems unlikely at best and laughable at worst. For all the talk about how the brand split is being phased out, the brands are still completely seperate entities for about 9 months out of the year - the only exceptions being the two months between the Royal Rumble and Wrestlemania, the couple weeks before Bragging Rights, and every couple months when they have a special Raw or SD with both brands on.</p><p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm aware that it's a standard practice for a candidate to use their private sector connections to promote themselves, but this is overboard imo.</p>

[UkWrestleFan]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="matt1986" data-cite="matt1986" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>What does everyone think about removing the brand split? Good idea? Bad idea?<p> </p><p> I persoally would love to see it, I've had enough of Raw vs Smackdown and don't buy into the "we're in competition with the other show" thinking at all.</p><p> </p><p> As for the main event being squeezed with one championship... how many main eventers are there at the moment? I count:</p><p> </p><p> Orton</p><p> Cena</p><p> Barret</p><p> Sheamus</p><p> Undertaker</p><p> Kane</p><p> Edge (although not really being used as one)</p><p> Miz (probably not quite there yet, but there's little doubt he will soon)</p><p> </p><p> Have I missed any? I'm not sure if it would be that squeezed at the top if there was only one World Title?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Triple H will need to fit in there somewhere when he returns. Then Jericho, he'll be back eventually. And Rey Mysterio, can he be considered a 'Main Eventer'? </p><p> </p><p> But I agree, I'd quite like to see the brand split end and just have 1 'World' title. Some of the older guys (Taker, Kane, Triple H) could even float between the Upper Midcard & Main Event and help get some younger talent over.</p>

[TheEdgeOfReason]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Candyman" data-cite="Candyman" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You know, those rumors seemed really strange to me at the time they came out, and I still haven't seen anything to justify them. It's just sad that so many people (not saying you're one of them, I'm sure you're not) read something on a dirt sheet and take it as fact that it came straight from the WWE. Like a couple weeks ago when it was reported that they had a "huge angle" planned for Raw, and when it didn't happen, there were posts on other boards saying "what happened to the huge angle WWE promised us???"<p> </p><p> It's possible they'll unify the titles, but it seems unlikely at best and laughable at worst. For all the talk about how the brand split is being phased out, the brands are still completely seperate entities for about 9 months out of the year - the only exceptions being the two months between the Royal Rumble and Wrestlemania, the couple weeks before Bragging Rights, and every couple months when they have a special Raw or SD with both brands on.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Are you familiar with American politics? This is pretty standard stuff. Frankly, I'm shocked and more than alittle ashamed that they didn't start doing something like this months ago.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It'll happen the tags and Divas have already been unified. I'm pretty sure that DB and Dolph started their program to unify the IC and US belts on Monday. The world title unification will happen soon. Prolly at WM or RR. Depends what route they go with the rumble winner.</p>

[ChrisKid]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="LoNdOn" data-cite="LoNdOn" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Daniel Bryan dancing on Raw = All kinds of awesome <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> This segement lifted the crowds mood</p><p> Rating: 100</p>

[LoNdOn]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="ChrisKid" data-cite="ChrisKid" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>This segement lifted the crowds mood<p> Rating: 100</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> No doubt. At first, when I saw all the divas in there with him I thought something horrible was about to happen. How wrong could I get? He makes R-Truth look like an arthritic pensioner. Bryan will be champion of the world by WM28 <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />.</p>

[ChrisKid]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="LoNdOn" data-cite="LoNdOn" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>No doubt. At first, when I saw all the divas in there with him I thought something horrible was about to happen. How wrong could I get? <strong>He makes R-Truth look like an arthritic pensioner.</strong> Bryan will be champion of the world by WM28 <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> awesome <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[BHK1978]

Propoganda. Pure propoganda. It's a little disgusting to be honest. WWE mentioning it's USO dates and the stuff the do for Make-A-Wish is really fine; those are really good things they do. Even pimping out it's good deeds for marketing isn't really bad. But pounding it's chest week after week to try to debunk the stuff that Linda's senate opponents are saying about the E or the wrestling industry in general is cheap and just this side of legal.

 

I agree with you. The minute I heard about this I rolled my eyes. For reasons that I will put below.

 

Are you familiar with American politics? This is pretty standard stuff. Frankly, I'm shocked and more than alittle ashamed that they didn't start doing something like this months ago.

 

I'm aware that it's a standard practice for a candidate to use their private sector connections to promote themselves, but this is overboard imo.

 

Found this on Wrestlingzone.com:

 

WashingtonPost.com is reporting that Nancy DiNardo, the chairwoman of the Connecticut Democrats, has filed a complaint with the Federal Election Commission on Wednesday, requesting that Lind McMahon's senate campaign be investigated for potentially coordinating with WWE on its recent "Stand Up For WWE" campaign. Both Linda's campaign manager and WWE have claimed they are acting independently and have nothing to do with one another.

 

They are claiming that the WWF is doing it independently. However, does anyone really believe this?

 

The media is not supposed to be biased towards one candidate over the other. So if they promote one candidate they must promote the other. Basically what the WWF is doing (sorry I refuse to call it WWE), is promoting Linda's campaign, indirectly. It is not outright, but it is influencing voters (viewers of WWF programs) that live in Connecticut to vote for her. Because her opponent is insulting you as fans.

[crownsy]

right, but her opponent did in fact insult the WWE.

 

He called it "entry level porn" at a recent debate.

 

I could do without the grandstanding, but i don't think the complaint has a leg to stand on. The WWE is not a media outlet, it's a entertainment program.

 

As long as they don't mention either campagin by name (which they didn't) or run ads (which they didn't) there fine as an enetertainment show.

 

Think about ti, the Daily show doesn't have to give equal time either, because it's not a media outlet.

 

Pretty tired of the entire impact this crap is having on the programs, but i doubt linda has much fear of sanctions.

 

She's going to lose, but he won't be sanctioned

[Slagaholic]

The media is not supposed to be biased towards one candidate over the other. So if they promote one candidate they must promote the other.

 

Tell that to every media outlet on the planet earth.

[Candyman]

They are claiming that the WWF is doing it independently. However, does anyone really believe this?

 

The media is not supposed to be biased towards one candidate over the other. So if they promote one candidate they must promote the other. Basically what the WWF is doing (sorry I refuse to call it WWE), is promoting Linda's campaign, indirectly. It is not outright, but it is influencing voters (viewers of WWF programs) that live in Connecticut to vote for her. Because her opponent is insulting you as fans.

 

The problem with your argument is the fact that her opponent is the one bringing up the WWE. Richard Blumenthal, and his supporters, are attacking the WWE. It'd be absolutely ridiculous for the WWE to NOT do what they did. Frankly, it's ridiculous that it's taken them this long. Ask yourself this...if the democrats weren't attacking the WWE, would they be doing this? Of course not. It's easy to laugh and say of course it's not done independently...but at the end of the day, it basically is. If there was an election that didn't involve somebody affiliated with the WWE, and one of the parties was attacking them, they'd still be doing this. And if her opponent wasn't attacking them, they wouldn't be doing this. They're doing this because they're being attacked, not because Linda is in an election.

 

Also, when did the WWE become media? They're entertainment. And beyond that, there was absolutely no mention of Linda or her opponent. The equal time rule doesn't come close to being applicable here. And, again, they're defending themselves, which they have every right to do. As easy as it is to say oh they're promoting Linda and this and that, there's no mention of her at all. No mention of what she's done for the company or what she'd do if elected, and there's no political attack on her opponent whatsoever. As funny as it sounds, this really is as absolutely independent and correct as you can get in this situation. Obviously some people out there are going to refuse to see it for what it really is and think it's shady, but it's actually not.