The Official WWE / NXT Discussion Thread *May Contain Spoilers*

[Stennick]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="LordJaguar" data-cite="LordJaguar" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Why did they fire Vickie! She was the most entertaining part of the show IMHO. The fans are morons and letting them was idiotic considering she is a heel and not a fan favorite. Was there any doubt how it would go? Dumb, dumb, dumb move WWE.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Its not like she'll be off of tv for long. Chances are she'll become Ryback's mouthpiece.</p>

[eayragt]

So, does this mean that WWE were intelligent by first naming Curtis Axel Michael McGillywhatshisface?

 

According to rag sheets (I know, great source), Vince told Hennig family members when he got given the Mcwhatever gimmick that that there were plans to use him in a different capacity in the future which would link him to the family. When he got a gimmick change, no-one chanted his old gimmick name because... no-one could. Planned or luck?

[shawn michaels]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="eayragt" data-cite="eayragt" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>So, does this mean that WWE were intelligent by first naming Curtis Axel Michael McGillywhatshisface?<p> </p><p> According to rag sheets (I know, great source), Vince told Hennig family members when he got given the Mcwhatever gimmick that that there were plans to use him in a different capacity in the future which would link him to the family. When he got a gimmick change, no-one chanted his old gimmick name because... no-one could. Planned or luck?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Oh yeah sure, the creator of wrestlemania's master plan was to find Henning a name that they would not chant in the future. If that was the case, there would be a lot of wrestlers wih former unchantable names around there. Besides, no one plans for a gimmick to suck. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[milamber]

<p>NXT review:</p><p> </p><p>

<strong>Summer Rae vs Emma</strong> - Decent match with a good ending. Summer is pretty good for a rookie and plays a convincing heel. Emma is technically sound and very likeable.</p><p>

<strong>Zayn vs Kruger</strong> - One of the best (and longest) matches I've seen on NXT! Zayn already deserves a spot on the main roster. Kruger's crazy bounty hunter gimmick is awesome.</p><p>

<strong>Waytt Family vs Graves/Neville/Regal</strong> - Only on NXT is the tag division almost as important as the main title. Good match.</p><p> </p><p>

Verdict: 3 entertaining matches and less filler this week. Great show.</p>

[Russelrules44]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="eayragt" data-cite="eayragt" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>So, does this mean that WWE were intelligent by first naming Curtis Axel Michael McGillywhatshisface?<p> </p><p> According to rag sheets (I know, great source), Vince told Hennig family members when he got given the Mcwhatever gimmick that that there were plans to use him in a different capacity in the future which would link him to the family. When he got a gimmick change, no-one chanted his old gimmick name because... no-one could. Planned or luck?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Hey, remember Monday when the Michael McGillicutty mini tron came up, I bet ya $5 Vince said some un-PG like words, but it could go either way for your question.</p>

[crownsy]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Rickymex" data-cite="Rickymex" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I think that maybe Vickie wanted to spend time with her family or maybe the WWE wanted her back as a manager.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I think it's the latter. The authority figures actual relation to the product is so screwed up she's wasted.</p><p> </p><p> I mean, questions that I wish the WWE would throw us a bone on and not just say "You have the brains of goldfish, right? just go with it."</p><p> </p><p> 1) who put Vince back in charge? WWE, do you remember we had this whole awkward storyline culminating in a "I love you pops!!!" cringe worthy moment where vince got Voted out of power and triple H got put in charge? Because I do.</p><p> </p><p> 2) If "Only the Chairman's vote counts" according to Triple H, then why did Vince even consent to the meeting? and why does he not have the power to overrule Steph, who has been absent from the power structure for months? </p><p> </p><p> 3) Why can Teddy long and Booker T book matches on Raw with Raw talent? (though to be fair, they have done this less the last month or so)</p><p> </p><p> 4) If Booker hates Teddy's backstabbing so much, why doesn't he just fire him? and where the hell is booker anyway?</p><p> </p><p> 5) how come wrestler's can just book their own matches on raw if there is a GM?</p><p> </p><p> So, that's my long winded way of saying, I'm hoping the Idea is to put Brad in Charge, and actually treat him like the GM, let Vicki go back to managing, where she is gold, and hopefully take this whole "Vince isn't in charge but he totally is" storyline out behind the woodshed and shoot it.</p>

[TakerNGN74]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="crownsy" data-cite="crownsy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> 4) If Booker hates Teddy's backstabbing so much, why doesn't he just fire him? and where the hell is booker anyway?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> According to WWE Booker T just had some form of surgery so they said he will be out for a few months.</p>

[crownsy]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="TakerNGN74" data-cite="TakerNGN74" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>According to WWE Booker T just had some form of surgery so they said he will be out for a few months.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Then I wish they'd just put Brad in charge of all WWE programming. Zero intrest in the "I'm undermining booker T playa, soon my reign of terror booking tag matches will be restored!" storyline.</p><p> </p><p> I like teddy as a manager though.</p>

[shawn michaels]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="TakerNGN74" data-cite="TakerNGN74" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>According to WWE Booker T just had some form of surgery so they said he will be out for a few months.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> The guy doesn't wrestle anymore and still manages to get injured. How? By saying "Oh my..." and "D-Bry" on national TV? Boy, his colour commentary was full of pearls of wisdom. Yeah... <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Ps: HBK is the best...but could someone tell him that spending a whole DVD saying "You know" becomes annoying?</p>

[HG Morrison]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Rickymex" data-cite="Rickymex" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>There is no reason to have the lights as Sin Cara has already adapted fairly well to the match the WWE style wrestlers and hasn't botched in quite a while.<p> </p><p> He probably has learned English well enough to speak and give interview but not to give live promos. I mean english isn't that hard a language to learn and considering how intertwined the Mexican and American cultures are there is really no reason he should not have an understanding of english.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> English isn't that hard of a language to learn? Well that's hardly true. Our spelling system is a mess and the language doesn't always follow its own rules. Among the languages with a latin root it is objectively the hardest to learn. That said he probably can speak some english conversationally.</p><p> </p><p> He doesn't really need to be able to speak. As history has shown with other wrestlers in the past. Even though we usually make that exception for the heavier monsterlike foreign wrestlers. It could apply to Sin Cara just the same. He does, however, need a mouthpiece of some sort and they need to stop sticking him in random matches without expanding on his character in some way. Right now he's just the mute that makes everything purple and hard to see for those with bad vision.</p>

[Active Jerichoholic]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="shawn michaels 82" data-cite="shawn michaels 82" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The guy doesn't wrestle anymore and still manages to get injured. How? By saying "Oh my..." and "D-Bry" on national TV? Boy, his colour commentary was full of pearls of wisdom. Yeah... <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> Ps: HBK is the best...but could someone tell him that spending a whole DVD saying "You know" becomes annoying?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Tell me he didn't just say that <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Rickymex]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="shawn michaels 82" data-cite="shawn michaels 82" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The guy doesn't wrestle anymore and still manages to get injured. How? By saying "Oh my..." and "D-Bry" on national TV? Boy, his colour commentary was full of pearls of wisdom. Yeah... <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> Ps: HBK is the best...but could someone tell him that spending a whole DVD saying "You know" becomes annoying?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> He has a wrestling school in Houston and has the "Reality of Wrestling" series on youtube where you can check out his promotion.</p>

[shawn michaels]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Rickymex" data-cite="Rickymex" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>He has a wrestling school in Houston and has the "Reality of Wrestling" series on youtube where you can check out his promotion.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Oh...so he wrestles. I guess that explains it.</p>

[Rickymex]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="HG Morrison" data-cite="HG Morrison" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>English isn't that hard of a language to learn? Well that's hardly true. Our spelling system is a mess and the language doesn't always follow its own rules. Among the languages with a latin root it is objectively the hardest to learn. That said he probably can speak some english conversationally.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It might be harder to learn grammatically but learning it conversationally it isn't as hard. Maybe its harder for him who's from Mexico City compared to someone like me who's from Coahuila which is the state bordering Texas. However there's similarity between the Spanish language and the American english. In addition a lot of schools teach English much like here in Texas they teach Spanish or French. </p><p> </p><p> Through I wouldn't let him cut live promos he could still do interviews for the youtube shows. Rey Mysterio was a great tag team partner as Rey can cut promos and as the older more established star no one would question Sin Cara not speaking. </p><p> </p><p> Sin Cara could very well use a valet to speak for him as I don't really see him with an actual manager since managers are mostly used as interference for heels. A good looking girl who can cut the promos backstage for Sin Cara and be his damsel in distress could really help his superhero like character.</p>

[milamber]

Smackdown Review:

Bryan vs Christian - Great match. Back and forth until Bryan got Christian to tap out. And we got a rare "This is awesome" chant on Smackdown.

Rollins vs Jey Uso - Decent match. Rollins won but Jey still looked strong.

Jericho vs Axel - Good match. Axel lost to Jericho again via an ironic count-out. Then proceeded to throw a tantrum which got him heat from the crowd.

Miz vs Ryback - Okay match designed to make Miz look strong despite losing and highlight the Ryback injury storyline.

AJ & Kaitlyn Contract Signing - It's good to see the divas division getting some attention. The segment started slow but ended with a bang. "Hulk smash!" #ProofThatKaitlynIsAViolentThug

Fandango vs Barrett - Filler match to promote the MITB match. Fandango with the cheap win while the other 4 bickered ringside.

Del Rio vs Sin Cara - Ziggler in disguise for the quick beatdown! He had me fooled for a minute.

Sheamus vs Orton - Great physical match. No Contest after Bryan came out and hit them both with a ladder. Ended with a mini MITB match with Orton grabbing the briefcase.

 

Verdict: Top notch Smackdown. The main matches were high quality. It's been a good run-in to the MITB PPV.

[milamber]

Interesting article about the new WWE Performance Center

 

 

Summerslam 2013 Trailer

[shawn michaels]

It might be harder to learn grammatically but learning it conversationally it isn't as hard. Maybe its harder for him who's from Mexico City compared to someone like me who's from Coahuila which is the state bordering Texas. However there's similarity between the Spanish language and the American english. In addition a lot of schools teach English much like here in Texas they teach Spanish or French.

 

Through I wouldn't let him cut live promos he could still do interviews for the youtube shows. Rey Mysterio was a great tag team partner as Rey can cut promos and as the older more established star no one would question Sin Cara not speaking.

 

Sin Cara could very well use a valet to speak for him as I don't really see him with an actual manager since managers are mostly used as interference for heels. A good looking girl who can cut the promos backstage for Sin Cara and be his damsel in distress could really help his superhero like character.

 

I don't mean to attack morrison but his stament was by far the most idiotic thing i ever saw. English is the most easy language to learn IN THE WORLD! Written or verbal. Portuguese is universally know as the most difficult one to learn. Most languages that descend from latin are, but english is not one of them. Im on my phone now, but when i arrive home, if you want to, i will break down to you how english is easy.

[shawn michaels]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Active Jerichoholic" data-cite="Active Jerichoholic" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Tell me he didn't just say that <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Which part? <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Here's a link. Nevermind the foreign words before the images, look at the images. I LMAO at some.</p><p> </p><p> <a href="http://wrestling.pt/wrestling-em-imagens-130/" rel="external nofollow">http://wrestling.pt/wrestling-em-imagens-130/</a></p>

[Active Jerichoholic]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="shawn michaels 82" data-cite="shawn michaels 82" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Which part? <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> Here's a link. Nevermind the foreign words before the images, look at the images. I LMAO at some.</p><p> </p><p> <a href="http://wrestling.pt/wrestling-em-imagens-130/" rel="external nofollow">http://wrestling.pt/wrestling-em-imagens-130/</a></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I was just throwing a Booker T catchphrase at you is all, but those captions are hilarious! hahaha</p>

[shawn michaels]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Active Jerichoholic" data-cite="Active Jerichoholic" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I was just throwing a Booker T catchphrase at you is all, but those captions are hilarious! hahaha</div></blockquote> <p> </p><p> </p><p> Oh yeah...i had forgot about that infamous "Tell me he didn't just say that". Gold. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> :D <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Active Jerichoholic]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="shawn michaels 82" data-cite="shawn michaels 82" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Oh yeah...i had forgot about that infamous "Tell me he didn't just say that". Gold. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> :D <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It is, I always liked Booker as a worker. I think if he were able to commentate on a more "realistic" product he'd be better at it. It's like he tries to overplay the "fakeness" now to me.</p><p> </p><p> So on another note, who are you guys picking for the MITB matches?</p><p> </p><p> I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Cody wins the WHC one, just cause he's been a favorite of mine for years. Terrible picking criteria, but I think it's pretty wide open honestly.</p><p> </p><p> As noted before, I believe Bryan will win the "All Stars" WWE briefcase, but I want Randy to. I think that'd be the perfect way for him to go full heel again, cashing in on a face Bryan down the road, maybe Royal Rumble.</p>

[Dawn]

I agree with you, Active Jerichoholic. Cody Rhodes is also a personal favorite for me, he has all the tools to become a great Main Event worker. My second favorite for the match would be Damien Sandow, and the third, Dean Ambrose. A feud between Dolph Ziggler and Cody Rhodes should be a great one if it happens.

 

As for he All-Stars Match, i also think that D-Bryan is going to win. CM Punk should easily be a favorite, but he is feuding with Brock Lesnar, and i think that Lesnar is going to interfere, or his music is going to play when Punk is nearly winning it. My second favorite would be Christian, the guy really deserves it too, a last (and this time, decent) World title run, so he can go to the HOF quickly like Edge when he retires. D-Bryan winning the title from Cena at SummerSlam should be great if he wins and cashes-in at S-Slam too.

[crownsy]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Smasher1311" data-cite="Smasher1311" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I agree with you, Active Jerichoholic. Cody Rhodes is also a personal favorite for me, he has all the tools to become a great Main Event worker. My second favorite for the match would be Damien Sandow, and the third, Dean Ambrose. A feud between Dolph Ziggler and Cody Rhodes should be a great one if it happens.<p> </p><p> As for he All-Stars Match, i also think that D-Bryan is going to win. CM Punk should easily be a favorite, but he is feuding with Brock Lesnar, and i think that Lesnar is going to interfere, or his music is going to play when Punk is nearly winning it. My second favorite would be Christian, the guy really deserves it too, a last (and this time, decent) World title run, so he can go to the HOF quickly like Edge when he retires. D-Bryan winning the title from Cena at SummerSlam should be great if he wins and cashes-in at S-Slam too.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm hoping any of the three mentioned (cody, sandow, or Ambrose) although I wouldn't HATE wade barret getting it, if they put in some work building him up.</p><p> </p><p> For the Raw on, my heart wants to Pick Dbryan, but I just think they've been pushing that too hard.... RVD or in a shocker (which i don't want to happen, too soon let them work themselves in) bray wyatt replacing Kane.</p>

[milamber]

<p>Who I think will win: Orton & Barrett</p><p> </p><p>

Who I want to win: Orton/Bryan & Cesaro</p>

[Rickymex]

<p>Might as well do a prediction key for today.</p><p> </p><p>

<strong>Tag Team Championship Match:</strong> The Shield (Seth Rollins and Roman Reigns) © vs. The Usos (Jimmy Uso and Jey Uso)</p><p> </p><p>

<strong>Divas Championship Match:</strong> AJ Lee © vs. Kaitlyn</p><p> </p><p>

<strong>Intercontinental Championship Match:</strong> Curtis Axel © vs. The Miz</p><p> </p><p>

<strong>WHC MITB Ladder Match:</strong> Wade Barrett vs. Cody Rhodes vs. Damien Sandow vs. Dean Ambrose vs. Fandango vs. Jack Swagger vs. Antonio Cesaro</p><p> </p><p>

<strong>Credibility vs Credibility:</strong> Chris Jericho vs. Ryback</p><p> </p><p>

<strong>WWE MITB Ladder Match:</strong> CM Punk vs. Daniel Bryan vs. Randy Orton vs. Sheamus vs. Christian vs TBD1 vs. Rob Van Dam</p><p> </p><p>

<strong>World Heavyweight Championship Match:</strong> Alberto Del Rio © vs. Dolph Ziggler</p><p> </p><p>

<strong>WWE Championship Match:</strong> John Cena © vs. Mark Henry</p>