Dawn Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 In my opinion, Punk is right. He's sick and tired of busting his ass for nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickymex Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 <p>Couldn't fall asleep and searched for Bo Dallas on tumblr since he's memetastic. Found this pic and bam! The reason Harper and Rowan are so messed up. Yes I know it's pretty crappy photoshop skills not to mention stupid.</p><p> </p><p> <span>http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss210/ricky696119/WyattFamily2_zpsa6e10713.jpg</span></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delv213 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Tha Black Phenom" data-cite="Tha Black Phenom" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Yeah these comparisons don't stand for me, Batista is a household name who's returned after four years... comparing ratings/views with someone who while over, isn't in the title picture right now kind of doesn't hold its legs. Punk's videos probably had the same amount of views when he was feuding with Ryback.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It's all about how much momentum someone has when ratings are collected. Most people aren't going to buy something unless they feel they're going to be entertained by it. Rock vs Cena I had that factor because nobody knew who was going to win. Someone who's in the main event should be in the main event for that reason, they draw fan interest for them to buy PPV's and people pay tickets to see them for an event they're in. I caught a stream for this year's Rumble, I bought it last year to see The Rock vs Punk. I know so many people who refused to buy Daniel Bryan's main eventing PPV's because the only match they wanted to see was Bryan vs Cena and they knew Bryan was going to get screwed since they had Orton teasing a cash in for weeks up to that point. The buildup was terrible and it had Bryan being berated for having a beard until the last Raw before Summerslam. Seriously, who the hell thought they'd actually put the guy over with such a poor build?</p><p> </p><p> Well last year's Royal Rumble had 579,000 buys worldwide(Rock vs Punk) which was the highest buyrate since the 2003 Royal Rumble did 585,000 buys.(Steiner vs HHH/Angle vs Benoit)</p><p> </p><p> If this year's has anything anywhere close, it's sold that Dave is a draw.</p><p> </p><p> Also if Triple H hadn't worked like a babyface in that Royal Rumble 2003 match against Steiner and completely undercut him as a worker, something tells me Steiner could've been a top draw for the company for at least a year since that PPV actually outdrew WrestleMania 19 lol.(Austin vs Rock III/Angle vs Lesnar/Triple H vs Booker T/Vince vs Hogan)</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stennick Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Wrestlemania 19 was a weird case. I mean Hogan vs. McMahon was on nobody's dream list. I mean they fought over Hulkamania I believe who created it or whatever. Austin/Rock were already par timers at this point and this was their third Wrestlemania match. The match itself was fun but you could tell they were just goofing around. Angle/Brock was cool but Brock as a babyface and less than a year into his run just was not ready to headline Wrestlemania and Angle never was really a draw. I personally enjoyed that show which also had HBK/Y2J and some other good stuff on it but yeah from a drawing aspect it sucked. Also Triple H/Booker T was boring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delv213 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Stennick" data-cite="Stennick" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Wrestlemania 19 was a weird case. I mean Hogan vs. McMahon was on nobody's dream list. I mean they fought over Hulkamania I believe who created it or whatever. Austin/Rock were already par timers at this point and this was their third Wrestlemania match. The match itself was fun but you could tell they were just goofing around. Angle/Brock was cool but Brock as a babyface and less than a year into his run just was not ready to headline Wrestlemania and Angle never was really a draw. I personally enjoyed that show which also had HBK/Y2J and some other good stuff on it but yeah from a drawing aspect it sucked. Also Triple H/Booker T was boring.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Well it was only 5-6 months before Wrestlemania 19 that they had Angle being a comedy act on Smackdown saying gay things unwillingly and getting mocked with the "You Suck" chants on a regular basis. Hard to believe they had him planned for a World title reign in the near future.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtplaystew Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 <p>I think its "hilarious" that if you question a thought you all of a sudden "hate" someone. I don't hate Batista. If anything I think he's being unfairly crapped on considering he's been gone as long as he has been. If any of you have a skill you've ever practiced hard at then didn't use it for many years, it'll come back to you -probably never to return to it's peak- but it will come back to a degree. It just takes time. I simply question the notion that he's THE babyface that needs to headline Wrestlemania because of a single ratings book which had several other factors involved as previously discussed.</p><p> </p><p> Oh and btw you can't tell me Angle wasn't a draw then sing Batista's praises lol. Sorry. Not buying that.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrows Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="delv213" data-cite="delv213" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The anti-Batista hate is hilarious. Promoted segments are the be all and end all of WWE when measuring someone's drawing ability. If you promote The Rock vs John Cena all night and nobody views that segment, guess what? They're not draws then.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Except for the fact that some people don't sit through a 20 minute opening Triple H/Randy Orton segment. Some people don't sit through the jobber matches that follow, or the Batista promo that bores the live crowd to tears.</p><p> </p><p> Not everyone watches every second to know what's being advertised. We're not psychic. We also don't know exactly when anything advertised is going to happen to tune in at that specific moment, for a rating to actually mean anything whatsoever. Tell ya what. Post here exactly when every Bryan segment is for the next RAW. It's exact starting moment. Then I'll tune in for just those.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="delv213" data-cite="delv213" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>If you want an alternate route of measuring the interest in Batista's return on Raw I'll use YouTube views. <p> </p><p> Batista attacks Alberto Del Rio: Raw, Jan. 20, 2014 1,081,174 views 1 week ago</p><p> </p><p> Rey Mysterio vs. Alberto Del Rio: Raw, Jan. 20, 2014 98,994 views 1 week ago</p><p> </p><p> Daniel Bryan reveals his true motives for joining the Wyatt family: Raw, Jan. 20, 2014 216,952 views 1 week ago</p><p> </p><p> Batista returns and declares he's after Randy Orton's WWE World Heavyweight Title: Raw, Jan. 20, 201 506,409 views 1 week ago</p><p> </p><p> Xavier Woods vs. Fandango: Raw, Jan. 20, 2014 59,360 views 1 week ago</p><p> </p><p> John Cena and Randy Orton brawl outside the ring: Raw, Jan., 20, 2014 424,119 views 1 week ago</p><p> </p><p> Big Show and Brock Lesnar come face-to-face: Raw, Jan. 20, 2014 688,487 views 1 week ago</p><p> </p><p> The two biggest draws they have right now, Lesnar and Batista drew the most views over a week. Followed by the Cena segment. Notice the draws have views on their videos and the jobbers like Xavier Woods don't?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> So you're basing your opinion on a website where WWE purposely removes anything added by anyone else once it gains enough traction to get noticed. Those views magically don't count for anything whatsoever, 'eh? Makes total sense.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 <p> </p><div class="ipsEmbeddedVideo"><div><iframe width="200" height="113" src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/9si8cIjAaVo?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="" title="CM Punk Leaves WWE (Video From 1.24.14)"></iframe></div></div><p> </p><p> Ryback's latest tweet: "I call dibs on GTS, Pepsi Plunge and running knee in the corner. I am sure Sheamus will take the rest." <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mammoth Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="milamber" data-cite="milamber" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Ryback's latest tweet: "I call dibs on GTS, Pepsi Plunge and running knee in the corner. I am sure Sheamus will take the rest." <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"></div></blockquote><p> If WWE is determined to cut Ryback from WWE television for whatever reason, why don't they send him to NXT to do commentary? It would be a hell of a lot better than Tensai, the guy is charismatic gold.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtplaystew Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="milamber" data-cite="milamber" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> <div class="ipsEmbeddedVideo"><div><iframe width="200" height="113" src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/9si8cIjAaVo?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="" title="CM Punk Leaves WWE (Video From 1.24.14)"></iframe></div></div><p> </p><p> Ryback's latest tweet: "I call dibs on GTS, Pepsi Plunge and running knee in the corner. I am sure Sheamus will take the rest." <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yea lol when did Ryback become entertaining all of a sudden? ;-)</p><p> </p><p> Im actually a big fan of the guy. When he was comming up I thought he was a nice throwback to a bygone era mixed with a breath of fresh air. Just ripe for the main event scene. But his promos weren't going where they needed to go. Then his performance and apparently his attitude saw him fall down the card more than a little bit.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 I just think its hilarious people don't realize his tweets are in character and everyone is all "Ryback needs fired, he lost his damn mind" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrows Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I just think its hilarious people don't realize his tweets are in character and everyone is all "Ryback needs fired, he lost his damn mind"</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Love the Ryback tweets. Doing a good job keeping himself talked about despite his lack of anything going on.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OctoberRaven Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 <p>I doubt Punk is leaving WWE forever.</p><p> </p><p> He might do a couple NJPW shows, then take a sabbatical before re-signing.</p><p> </p><p> Punk vs Okada and Punk vs Minoru Suzuki would both be great matches</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwt13 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 <p>WWE seems to be on a long slope down if things don't change, fans are getting pissed, wrestlers are leaving, creative is in it's worst in man years. This all right before a network launching, and if it fails it could destroy WWE since they will lose their PPV deals because of the network.</p><p> </p><p> Things need to improve and fast or WWE could hit some real hard times.</p><p> </p><p> Leaning on old guys will only get you so far, never thought I'd see the day when TNA was doing a better job building stars than WWE, but right now that's the case.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh_Showtime Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 <p>4 weeks ago wwe is doing great at building stars and now one Batista main event means their future is grim?</p><p> </p><p> I dont like Batista in the slightest but when all 3 guys of the Shield, Bray Wyatt, among others are being put in top positions I don't see how you can come to that conclusion.</p><p> </p><p> Plus:<span style="color:#FFFFFF;"> Cesaro will main event the next PPV as well</span></p><p> </p><p> Sure Batista sucks but he's just one person. Daniel Bryan gets more screentime than any wrestler in the company right now, he is set for life.</p><p> </p><p> And no, WWE wont lose PPV providers due to the network. They will still offer standalone PPVs and I have a hard time believing that they won't hit one million domestic subscribers in the first year.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpoolez Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="jwt13" data-cite="jwt13" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>WWE seems to be on a long slope down if things don't change, fans are getting pissed, wrestlers are leaving, creative is in it's worst in man years. This all right before a network launching, and if it fails it could destroy WWE since they will lose their PPV deals because of the network.<p> </p><p> Things need to improve and fast or WWE could hit some real hard times.</p><p> </p><p> Leaning on old guys will only get you so far, never thought I'd see the day when TNA was doing a better job building stars than WWE, but right now that's the case.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> The thing about thinking like this is that WWE proves us smarks wrong everytime we say that the WWE is doomed.</p><p> </p><p> As far as the network goes, Pro Wrestling's PPV audience is laughably low compared to what it was in the AE. WWE are lucky to get 150,000 buys a minor PPV and only go above 500,000 for WM most likely. If just a million people buy into the WWE Network in the first year, that's potentially nearly ten times the viewers that WWE gets on a standard PPV. If they can get most of the 4-4.5 Million regular viewers of Raw on board then it will be very successful for them and there's also the potential to bring alienated fans on board with the complete MNW library at their disposal.</p><p> </p><p> The WWE will be just fine for now IMO. That being said, they do need to start building more full time stars. They had a great thing with Ryback and ruined him, they're at a crossroads with Bryan right now and I hope they dont do the same.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delv213 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="bigtplaystew" data-cite="bigtplaystew" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I think its "hilarious" that if you question a thought you all of a sudden "hate" someone. I don't hate Batista. If anything I think he's being unfairly crapped on considering he's been gone as long as he has been. If any of you have a skill you've ever practiced hard at then didn't use it for many years, it'll come back to you -probably never to return to it's peak- but it will come back to a degree. It just takes time. I simply question the notion that he's THE babyface that needs to headline Wrestlemania because of a single ratings book which had several other factors involved as previously discussed.<p> </p><p> Oh and btw you can't tell me Angle wasn't a draw then sing Batista's praises lol. Sorry. Not buying that.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> What are you talking about? I thought Angle was a draw, however being booked like shit for literately 6 months as a joke midcarder before a Wrestlemania 19 doesn't help most people get sold on you being legitimate. His entire 2002 run had him making an idiot of himself, losing to Edge and wearing a wig with wrestling headgear, oh and who can forget him making unintentional gay jokes about "laying ontop of men", let's make this guy our world champion in a year! Maybe people will forget about how much of joke he was now that he turned serious after winning the title. </p><p> </p><p> Angle drew well with Cena in his 2005 Raw feud, probably because he was built up as a believable crazy mofo for about a year going back to his Wrestlemania 21 feud where Shawn put him over in one of the best Wrestlemania matches of all time cleanly. Hell, even Angle's hilarious feud with Booker T where he was into "gutter sluts" kept the continuity that he was crazy.</p><p> </p><p> And yes btw, there is Batista hate all over this topic. You must be oblivious to not see it. I might not be alluding to you in specific but if the Rumble's buyrate is any good then it should be attributed to Batista's obvious hyped win.</p><p> </p><p> </p><div class="ipsEmbeddedVideo"><div><iframe width="200" height="113" src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/dvXRoe3vui0?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="" title="Big Boy Upset Over WWE Royal Rumble 2014!"></iframe></div></div><p> ^ The rage and appearance of most IWC fans.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh_Showtime Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 You do know that you are part of the iwc right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashasheen Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 <p>So... WWE stock is at an all-time high unreached since the Attitude Era (aka before they started publicly trading). Triple what it was 9 months ago in fact. So much for the WWE being worse than ever before. </p><p> </p><p> <a href="http://variety.com/2014/biz/news/wwe-stock-hits-another-high-after-bskyb-renewal-1201080150/" rel="external nofollow">http://variety.com/2014/biz/news/wwe-stock-hits-another-high-after-bskyb-renewal-1201080150/</a></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delv213 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 So... WWE stock is at an all-time high unreached since the Attitude Era (aka before they started publicly trading). Triple what it was 9 months ago in fact. So much for the WWE being worse than ever before. http://variety.com/2014/biz/news/wwe-stock-hits-another-high-after-bskyb-renewal-1201080150/ I assume this makes Vince a billionaire again, hopefully he doesn't create another football league. He's better off flushing his money down the toilet or giving it to Goldberg for a one night comeback. You do know that you are part of the iwc right? I said most, right? I'd never rage over something that's a work, That's like getting angry at Brad Pitt for failing to kill Hitler in Inglourious Basterds. Just enjoy the product. There are highs and lows to any form of entertainment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 NXT Review: The Ascension vs Jobbers - Should have signed the Wolves on a short contract to plug the gap. The NXT Tag Champs need some competition. Graves vs Camacho - Graves returned from injury with a win. The match was way too short so I'd like to see a longer rematch. Bayley (w/ Natalya) vs Sasha (w/ Summer & Charlotte) - Solid match. Bayley scored a another win over one of the BFFs. Big Cass vs Breeze - Breeze took a lot of selfies and reacted badly to "SAWFT" chants. Cass grabbed someone's phone and took his own selfies and strutted around like a model. "This is awesome!" chants before the match even started. Cass was beating the crap out of Breeze until English appeared on screen pretending to assault Amore backstage. Breeze used the distraction to pick up the win. Cue entertaining backstage segment with Cass and Amore. Parker vs Miz - Good match with Parker tapping to the Figure Four. Parker is growing on me. The Miz looked like he was having fun and he got a positive reaction from the crowd. Dallas/Neville Contract Signing - Dallas got in Neville's face then squashed a jobber to prove a point that he's not scared of Neville just sick of him. Dallas signed the contract and the two men brawled up the ramp. Verdict: Average show. Heavy on character work and angles, light on action. I want more tag matches. MVPs: Bayley who is really over with the crowd and Big Cass who is incredibly entertaining. For a more in-depth and funny review I recommend this website: http://www.cagesideseats.com/2014/1/30/5360046/wwe-nxt-results-reactions-january-29-2014 http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRgGWHLWLXz92ejHqLFy8mVXkkv9FcIwVMvHCkAeaUyxN5_jNrgJghttp://25.media.tumblr.com/3cfdc9d71a0aedef169c1aa0572a798d/tumblr_n07aweJltU1qefv2ko2_1280.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djthefunkchris Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 You know what's really cool on a personal level for me? Well, I'm going to share, since it's relevant with all the current talking and such. My wife watch's on and off.... Less is more for her because she doesn't like quite a few of the wrestlers. She don't really like Fandango at all, she doesn't care for the Uso's, she really don't like Rhodes or Gold Dust, nor does she like Sandow, Miz, Ziggler or even HBK. She likes Cena, Sheamus, Batista, Triple H, Orton (when he's a bad guy), Mysterio, Natalya and Naomi (doesn't like Cameron). She watch's the Total Divas show, and doesn't like the Bella's much. Above all... ever since he grew his beard and let it be shaggy, she absolutely HATES Daniel Bryan. I couldn't get her to watch anything he was in without her talking bad about him. I give you all this background information because I feel she is one of those people that WWE tries to cater to, and doesn't do a very good job at it. She doesn't find much of anything entertaining when she does watch (which has been harder and harder through the years to get her to do, even with a whole living room full of people watching). A few years back she didn't like Punk much either. So, when we watched Raw live a couple of weeks ago, she was very impressed with the audience during the DB vs Wyatt match. The whole match, not just the last part (that she called impressing me by the way). She no longer hates him, he has won her over, beard and all.... although she will never like the scrappy beard, "I just wish he'd trim it up!" I tried to explain that it's part of his character, starting with the whole Goat thing, but she doesn't care. "IT LOOKS TERRIBLE!" she will tell me. She also seen what happened with Mysterio and Batista, and felt sorry for Mysterio knowing it would have happened to whoever come out of there that wasn't named Daniel Bryan. If my wife's mind can change, then I'm bound to think that this "Yes Movement" story line can do nothing but make Daniel Bryan even more popular then he is right now... and I don't just mean a little more. I believe everyone is really behind him, and although there are some politics revolving around returning and part time talent, they are still elevating DB for something huge. As far as Punk goes.... I can't find enough information to put two and two together to come up with four. All the stuff that sounds legit, sounds to me like this isn't really something we can point at and say "Here, this is why!" Just seems like it might be several things that just rolled up all together and the people involved more then likely understand and so no one is going to talk badly about the other one... Kind of like you guys asking me to keep on posting a really long post (sorry by the way), keep going you all tell me, for as long as you can hold out. You guys know I'm tired of typing, but you need me to just try and keep it up although my hands are cramping up and I'm not able to type as fast but I keep going because you need me to. Then after months of typing I say OK, ths is it. I can't type no more right now, I need a break I'm going to stop now. I have to go. I don't know at this time if I will type again. Since you all pushed me into posting so much, you guys basically understand. You realize I've posted as much as I can, so all you can do really, is get someone else posting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtplaystew Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="jwt13" data-cite="jwt13" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>WWE seems to be on a long slope down if things don't change, fans are getting pissed, wrestlers are leaving, <strong>creative is in it's worst in man years</strong>. This all right before a network launching, and if it fails it could destroy WWE since they will lose their PPV deals because of the network.<p> </p><p> Things need to improve and fast or WWE could hit some real hard times.</p><p> </p><p> Leaning on old guys will only get you so far, never thought I'd see the day when TNA was doing a better job building stars than WWE, but right now that's the case.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I gotta disagree here. They still feature Cena prominently but he's not on TV once an hour anymore so I feel like other guys have gotten the chance. I don't think WWE's at it's worst creatively. I think that point was a few years ago to be honest pre pipe-bomb when it was basically Cena or bust. I still enjoyed it (I'm a Cena fan... shoot me) but it's a bit more varied rght now which is a good thing. I think now that they've expanded and given other guys TV time Cena himself is more tolerable to the hardcores while remaining an attracting to his younger fanbase. </p><p> </p><p> I wish the PPVs featured less screwy finishes and there's a few changes I wish they'd make here and there. I think over the past year or so the commitment to the tag team division and some long term booking have actually been their strong suits. They seem to have a plan for the top wrestlers, then plan beyond that which is something they were lacking for a few years there.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="jwt13" data-cite="jwt13" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>WWE seems to be on a long slope down if things don't change, fans are getting pissed, wrestlers are leaving, creative is in it's worst in man years. This all right before a network launching, and if it fails it could destroy WWE since they will lose their PPV deals because of the network.<p> </p><p> Things need to improve and fast or WWE could hit some real hard times.</p><p> </p><p> Leaning on old guys will only get you so far, never thought I'd see the day when TNA was doing a better job building stars than WWE, but right now that's the case.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="bigtplaystew" data-cite="bigtplaystew" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I gotta disagree here. They still feature Cena prominently but he's not on TV once an hour anymore so I feel like other guys have gotten the chance. I don't think WWE's at it's worst creatively. I think that point was a few years ago to be honest pre pipe-bomb when it was basically Cena or bust. I still enjoyed it (I'm a Cena fan... shoot me) but it's a bit more varied rght now which is a good thing. I think now that they've expanded and given other guys TV time Cena himself is more tolerable to the hardcores while remaining an attracting to his younger fanbase. <p> </p><p> I wish the PPVs featured less screwy finishes and there's a few changes I wish they'd make here and there. I think over the past year or so the commitment to the tag team division and some long term booking have actually been their strong suits. They seem to have a plan for the top wrestlers, then plan beyond that which is something they were lacking for a few years there.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> WWE booking has always been hit and miss in the PG era. But I've really enjoyed the last few years. Cena has taken a backseat more, indy guys like Punk & Bryan have had huge pushes. HHH has got NXT sorted. We have a strong tag division and women who can wrestle coming through the ranks. The Shield in particular is some of the best booking they've done over a long period for years. Now they just need to get more consistent with the shows and PPVs.</p><p> </p><p> For anyone who thinks WWE sucks right now because Bryan isn't champ, Batista won the Rumble and Raw was average, watch this week's Smackdown. I won't post my review yet but I loved it.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtplaystew Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 <p>Agreed, milamber. I hear the things Zeb Coulter says and sometimes do facepalms when people say they <em>never</em> take chances within the confines of TV-PG.</p><p> </p><p> I criticize a decision here and there but I think to say Daniel Bryan hasn't been treated properly overall in the past year is an untrue statement. He gets A LOT of TV time. I'd like to see him get a belt run at some point but I'm sure he will. I did criticize the decision to have Batista win the Rumble but I stand by that. I wish it had been a few other guys but I mean I'm not like swearing off WWE TV or anything crazy like some of the things I've seen. Just like any TV show sometiems they do a few things with a character here and there that I'm not crazy about but if it keeps me watching I can't say it sucks. I watch Raw and Smackdown every week and usually catch Main Event. So I mean that's 5-6 hours of television PER WEEK I watch. I can't honestly say it's bad TV.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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