The Swanton825 Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 The rumor I read was that Harper and Rowan weren't turning on Bray, but just being "set free" to accomplish things on their own and Bray will bring in two new members of the Family. Supposedly the Ascension. Marc Middleton said this though, so take it with a grain of salt. Words cannot describe how much I would love this to happen. It's also probably the only way the Ascension won't fall flat on their faces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 Words cannot describe how much I would love this to happen. It's also probably the only way the Ascension won't fall flat on their faces. I'm not a big fan of the Ascension, but if they had a mouthpiece like Bray I'd at least care. We've discussed them on here before. I still love Showtime's idea of Jimmy Jacobs managing the Ascension though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 They might as well turn Bray. He's gone as far as a heel as he can right now and lost his biggest feud (Cena). The Ascension can work as babyfaces with the right booking and Bray as their mouthpiece could help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 NXT Review: Segments - Enzo gets Regal to watch Carmella wrestle. He's impressed and agrees to give her a tryout next week. She hugs Cass not Enzo. If only we got more of this character-building backstage stuff on the main shows. It would have helped Bo and Emma. Breeze vs Mojo - Squash match. Breeze applied an armbar and wouldn't let go until the ref called the match. Viktor vs Itami - OK match won by Itami despite a distraction. He looked wobbly (selling a concussion). The Ascension tied Itami up in the ropes, beat the crap out of him and made him watch while they hit their finisher on Funaki. Good acting from Itami. The Vaudevillians vs Enzo & Big Cass - Entertaining smack-talking from the Jersey boys followed by a solid match won by the Vaudevillians. Lynch vs Banks - Good match won by Sasha, who desperately needed it. This was Becky's best match to date. Titus vs Zayn - Solid David vs Goliath style match won by Titus. I can deal with Zayn being used to make Titus look strong for a title shot against Neville so long we get a Zayn/Steen feud soon. Verdict: Solid show. The Lucha Dragons need to be used more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackman Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 Also if anybody needed more proof that Sami Zayn is the best babyface on the planet, this week's NXT is just that Well he DID have the Belgian flag on his tights today, which is pretty bossy, yet disturbing as he never performed here afaik. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtplaystew Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 Well he DID have the Belgian flag on his tights today, which is pretty bossy, yet disturbing as he never performed here afaik. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Smackdown 15 Review: The Great - The Rock/HHH segment. Miz TV with Ambrose & Cena (who helped Ambrose Double-Arm DDT Miz then AA'd Ambrose, which is as close to a heel turn as we're likely to see). The Good - Teddy Long and Big Johnny trying to out-do each other with tag match booking. Steph dancing to Rose's music. Rollins vs Kofi. Rusev vs Ziggler. The OK - AJ vs Fox. Team Teddy vs Team Johnny (fun but forgettable 14-man tag match). The Bad - Kane vs Rose (only good part was Kane choke-slamming Rosebuds who were protecting the Bunny). Verdict: Solid show but aside from the past highlights it wasn't that special for an anniversary show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djthefunkchris Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 I've come to believe all anniversary type shows will be less about actual in ring action and more on nostalgia, puns and silliness. So I don't expect much more then past superstars showing up (usually at least two), possibly taking out the current bad guy in a non-match circumstance. I was actually hoping they had Sting show up, which would have been cool for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 I've come to believe all anniversary type shows will be less about actual in ring action and more on nostalgia, puns and silliness. So I don't expect much more then past superstars showing up (usually at least two), possibly taking out the current bad guy in a non-match circumstance. I was actually hoping they had Sting show up, which would have been cool for me. That would have made zero sense. Not only would they waste Sting's appearance on Smackdown, but why would he appear on Smackdown's 15 year anniversary? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RKOwnage Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 That would have made zero sense. Not only would they waste Sting's appearance on Smackdown, but why would he appear on Smackdown's 15 year anniversary? Not like WWE booking has been known to make much sense anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djthefunkchris Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 That would have made zero sense. Not only would they waste Sting's appearance on Smackdown, but why would he appear on Smackdown's 15 year anniversary? I'm not sure what you mean by waste.... I would have liked to seen him show up is all I'm saying. I didn't "expect" him to, I hadn't heard any news or spoilers or anything that said he would show up. I understand that they were celebrating 15 years of Smackdown, it's the only thing I can think of that you mean by wasting an appearance. For me though, it would have been cool.... Rock shows up on Raw, I didn't expect that. So I was hoping for another surprise. If you were looking for a connection as to why I would have liked it... I would like him showing up on either show (Raw or Smackdown), I wasn't preferring Smackdown or anything. Just was hoping since it was a celebration, I might get another surprise. I suppose I could stretch the connection as an Undertaker/Sting thing, since Undertaker was/might still be/ Smackdown's locker room leader. We all know that Sting would love to do something with Undertaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtplaystew Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 I think the point is that they've handled Sting with a bit of mystery and aura. Sure he's been on a panel here and there but hasn't appeared on WWE TV yet. Presumably because they're saving it for something big. Something relevant to both us and him. The 15th Smackdown anniversary show would not be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basmat01 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 I have a feeling Sting will appear in the RR match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RKOwnage Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Just watched last week's NXT ... Titus actually impressed me, that was solid work. Liking the tag division right now, as the Vaudevillains, Amore/Cass, and the Lucha Dragons are all great. Hoping Devitt is the guy to fight the Ascension with Itami. Also, Becky Lynch is awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackman Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 The anniversary show was a little mediocre. I fell asleep during the tag match and missed the Ambrose segment. Saw it now, and he sold that finisher well. I assume It must be superdifficult to sell an AA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 I'm not sure what you mean by waste.... I would have liked to seen him show up is all I'm saying. I didn't "expect" him to, I hadn't heard any news or spoilers or anything that said he would show up. I mean waste because having him appear on Smackdown, which is very much the B-Show would just be a waste of an appearance. If it's not Raw or a Pay Per View, it's not going to be meaningful at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djthefunkchris Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 I mean waste because having him appear on Smackdown, which is very much the B-Show would just be a waste of an appearance. If it's not Raw or a Pay Per View, it's not going to be meaningful at all. But if he showed up, I would have been surprised and it would have made the show better for me. I imagine others might feel the same. I understand your logic though, through purely a business point of view. Just in case he is ever used in ring, best to make an impression, etc. However, it was just for a feel good moment that I was hoping for it. If he is going to be an in ring performer, than by all means make his debut mean something more special. I'm personally hoping after Rusov gets fed another "victim", Kurt Angle shows up to slay the beast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh_Showtime Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 And if that happens, Angle should be promptly destroyed in all honesty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtplaystew Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Rusev's streak should be broken by someone (relatively) young who can gain something from it. And they should have a bitter, hateful long rivalry afterwards. The kind of rivalry that makes you want to see these guys battle off and on for years not weeks. I think Swagger would have been a fine choice if they wanted to push him. Maybe Ryback when he comes back if they decide to repackage him somehow? I don't think Rusev is quite in that title picture. I think he needs a nice long simmering feud to get on TV and make people care about him. Sure people already hate him. He and Lana get their boos. That''s no easy task. But I don't think he's particularly good television right now. That's what he needs: an interesting rival long term to make us care about watching him. I think the guy that stands up to him and beats him will be that guy. And having the Rock feud with him for any longer than that one surprise angle I think would be a waste. The Rock is too important to job to someone like Rusev. And Rusev jobbing to Rock does nothing much for either guy, except maybe tell a "Rock's still got it" storyline if they choose to bring him in for something more long term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steesh07 Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Just watched last week's NXT ... Titus actually impressed me, that was solid work. Liking the tag division right now, as the Vaudevillains, Amore/Cass, and the Lucha Dragons are all great. Hoping Devitt is the guy to fight the Ascension with Itami. Also, Becky Lynch is awesome. If you ever get the chance to watch her matches from Shimmer, I would recommend them as they were brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CQI13 Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Batista is the new Bond villain. That should be interesting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djthefunkchris Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 And if that happens, Angle should be promptly destroyed in all honesty Rusev's streak should be broken by someone (relatively) young who can gain something from it. And they should have a bitter, hateful long rivalry afterwards. The kind of rivalry that makes you want to see these guys battle off and on for years not weeks. I think Swagger would have been a fine choice if they wanted to push him. Maybe Ryback when he comes back if they decide to repackage him somehow? I don't think Rusev is quite in that title picture. I think he needs a nice long simmering feud to get on TV and make people care about him. Sure people already hate him. He and Lana get their boos. That''s no easy task. But I don't think he's particularly good television right now. That's what he needs: an interesting rival long term to make us care about watching him. I think the guy that stands up to him and beats him will be that guy. And having the Rock feud with him for any longer than that one surprise angle I think would be a waste. The Rock is too important to job to someone like Rusev. And Rusev jobbing to Rock does nothing much for either guy, except maybe tell a "Rock's still got it" storyline if they choose to bring him in for something more long term. I understand your points, and the Angle thing is just something I hope for if he returns (and is healthy/physically and mentally). Here are my thoughts though. With the Wyatts being repackaged or whatever (off on their own), there isn't that big monster for someone to slay. I totally agree that Rusov needs someone to feud with. I just don't think it has to be someone new. One of the best things they do is build up monsters to give a high level babyface someone to feud with. I wouldn't be surprised if they fed him to Cena. I just know the reaction everyone will have (no matter how logical it is to do). Let someone like Dean Ambrose or an undercard take him out and everyone will be ok with it. Have someone already established, and it will be hated on, although it's the best way to make him look like he belongs up there with them. Build Rusov up, and build him up... no one can get that job done. After you have him established you bring the guy into the fold that WILL get the job done, end of streak/terror or whatever, everyone goes home happy. I wouldn't mind either of the other options. I would love them to push Swagger back up to the Main Event, but I think they found his place on the card that they are comfortable with. Alternatively, they could bring a new face into the fold, and build him up to slay Rusov. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Raw was pretty good. I liked that there were 2 running storylines (Cena & Ambrose being forced to earn their shot at Rollins and Orton & Rollins trying to prove themselves top dog in The Authority). All the matches except the Diva ones were good. The main event was a bit disappointing but they did the best they could with a pole match and Ambrose won. I hope Orton turns on The Authority soon. There are rumors of him being unhappy with his direction and wanting a break but that's even more reason to turn him and give him the spotlight before Bryan and Reigns return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtplaystew Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 DJ I'm all for Cena fighting (and beating) Rusev. I believe you build guys like Rusev to be foils to guys like Cena. My thought process in having him feud with someone new would be that both guys would elevate. I still think Rusev's a touch green in a few areas. He's damn good for a guy his size though. Hell he's already damn good period. I am a big fan of his work so far. And I feel like a huge main event match with a guy like Cena would be best played out a year from now or something like that. When he can really polish up some of those finer points and get the psychology down to have a really great back and forth match with a guy like Cena. I think if Rusev fought Cena in the near future there's really only two ways it'll go: The predictable Cena win or the cheap swerve. I really don't know what that does creatively. But I do see what you're saying too. As far as Orton I am very much looking forward to the teased break from the Authority. He's just too damn good to be a (slightly) glorified gatekeeper. He also shouldn't go full cheese babyface again. I want to see him be a badass tweener just RKOing the crap out of everyone and everything. He doesn't want friends. He doesn't need allies. Or the fan's support. He just does what he's got to do to win. Build that up as a threat to Brock Lesnar (with an obligatory Paul Heyman punt kick for good measure) for a match in the not-too-distant future and I think you have one hell of a championship PPV match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Speaking of Orton, anyone seen the RKO Outtanowhere meme doing the rounds? Even Randy's re-tweeting them. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vea0B1vVMiY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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