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That's why I said Big Poppa Pump.

 

Scott Steiner pre-steroid was a tremendous wrestler. And the Steiner Bros. were top 5 tag teams of all time.

 

There was no pre-steroid Scott Steiner.

 

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I don't think that's actually possible... He was definitely a better athlete, sure, but I don't think you could call anyone a better in ring worker than someone if you're going to go ahead and say, "without the psychology." As I personally think psychology is what separates the all time greats like Danielson and Flair to the good workers, like Steiner.

 

It's very possible and happens quite often. Steiner could brawl and wrestle better than Hogan ever could. Hogan had insane amounts of charisma and great psychology, two things Steiner didn't have nearly enough of. Hence, Hogan becoming a bigger star.

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Crychon" data-cite="Crychon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I think these are required viewing:<p> </p><div class="ipsEmbeddedOther"> <iframe data-embedid="8e00aa7c76161db508a291f1787df2aa" allowfullscreen="" data-embed-src="<___base_url___>/index.php?app=core&module=system&controller=embed&url=https://twitter.com/JohnnyGargano/status/761983599952457728"></iframe> </div><p> <a href="https://twitter.com/ProjectCiampa/status/762042275618627584" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/ProjectCiampa/status/762042275618627584</a></p><p> <a href="https://twitter.com/ProjectCiampa/status/762120225881927681" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/ProjectCiampa/status/762120225881927681</a></p><p> </p><div class="ipsEmbeddedOther"> <iframe data-embedid="9ae9ce767d497c940fbb9b93e48942e1" allowfullscreen="" data-embed-src="<___base_url___>/index.php?app=core&module=system&controller=embed&url=https://twitter.com/JohnnyGargano/status/762143597827350528"></iframe> </div></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You were right, That was required. And #Glorious.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Crychon" data-cite="Crychon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I think these are required viewing:<p> </p><div class="ipsEmbeddedOther"> <iframe data-embedid="cf6f8883c8acfd9a7e42bafa45c8b4dd" allowfullscreen="" data-embed-src="<___base_url___>/index.php?app=core&module=system&controller=embed&url=https://twitter.com/JohnnyGargano/status/761983599952457728"></iframe> </div><p> <a href="https://twitter.com/ProjectCiampa/status/762042275618627584" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/ProjectCiampa/status/762042275618627584</a></p><p> <a href="https://twitter.com/ProjectCiampa/status/762120225881927681" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/ProjectCiampa/status/762120225881927681</a></p><p> </p><div class="ipsEmbeddedOther"> <iframe data-embedid="0246dbeb00df498e623fbad92dd80e18" allowfullscreen="" data-embed-src="<___base_url___>/index.php?app=core&module=system&controller=embed&url=https://twitter.com/JohnnyGargano/status/762143597827350528"></iframe> </div></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Damn, that was awesome. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="thecoolestjedi12" data-cite="thecoolestjedi12" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Eva Marie may be the most entertaining heel outside of KO, Rusev, and Jericho on the main roster right now.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That is a statement I would have never thought I would have read....but the man is right.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="thecoolestjedi12" data-cite="thecoolestjedi12" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Based on the reactions she has got for the past 2 SD episodes, she may be the best female heel in the company right now in terms of just being able to draw heat from doing a simple entrance. It is kinda crazy how hated she really is.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> The thing is... She has "go away" heat. Not "we want to see you lose" heat. No one wants her on TV or in the company at all. Including me. Eva is almost as horrible as Vickie Guerrero was on TV. While some considered any heat good heat I dont. People including myself will change a channel if she is on it.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="iruleall15" data-cite="iruleall15" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The thing is... She has "go away" heat. Not "we want to see you lose" heat. No one wants her on TV or in the company at all. Including me. Eva is almost as horrible as Vickie Guerrero was on TV. While some considered any heat good heat I dont. People including myself will change a channel if she is on it.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Well...</p><p> </p><p> I definitely wanted her to go just away, and sighed when she was drafted to Smackdown, but... I think this is the one way to book her where it plays up perfectly to how bad she is. If there was ever a way to book someone was bad as Eva, I think this is it. It can't go on forever, but for now I'm enjoying it.</p><p> </p><p> This isn't something I thought I'd be saying about anything related to Eva Marie.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="thecoolestjedi12" data-cite="thecoolestjedi12" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Eva Marie may be the most entertaining heel outside of KO, Rusev, and Jericho on the main roster right now.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Oh, come on. <img alt=":rolleyes:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/rolleyes.png.4b097f4fbbe99ce5bcd5efbc1b773ed6.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Though her program is not all bad given I don't have to watch her perform in the ring, I'm sure it will go nowhere and will be done by the next 3 weeks. It does show us the best side of EvaMarie for obvious reasons (don't call me sexist, I'm probably the last person that would be like that. It's just all she's good for in this job). NXT did it better when they had her try the "authority" gimmick backed by Nia Jax. That would work on RAW for sure. But for SD! I don't know... They can still shape her program in that direction. Here's hoping.</p>
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<p>What they are doing with Eva right now (like in NXT) is entertaining but when she finally does wrestle the only babyface who can carry her is Becky. After that she needs to transition into being a cheating backup for a heel like Natalya or Bliss, to limit her matches. Long term her value will drop to zero unless she improves her wrestling and acting skills.</p><p> </p><p>

As for the CWC, Tajri & Gran Metalik was really good but Ibushi vs Cedric was one of the best matches this year. Kota is the master of the near-fall.</p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Lostrelms" data-cite="Lostrelms" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Watching Cedric Alexander vs. Kota Ibushi... and i cantg stop smiling, this is AWESOME!</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I thought the first match was good, then came these guys... Wow. Blew me away.</p>
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