The Official WWE / NXT Discussion Thread *May Contain Spoilers*

[Blackman]

<p>Just listened to Cornette burying Saxton, which seems funny to me given he always indicates he rarely watches the current product. His gimmick of "being made fun of" gets tired quickly. We know he's just there because he's black. It makes sense to have a black commentator at all times. It's been their policy for years, but BookerT and even the coach were entertaining (the latter even had chemistry with the Rock). Saxton is not (...yet). Otunga is better but I don't like him. Playing the educated card seems weird when placed in the footsteps of King.</p><p> </p><p>

All this repetitive booking doesn't really bother me, especially given the quality of the Flair/Banks matchups, and the surprisingly good Miz/Ziggler runs. But for every good one of those, there's a bad one. But then again: what good can they get out of Reigns? I suppose Owens is the best option they have.</p>

[milamber]

Raw is Snore

 

Smackdown - 1st 2 matches were a bit sloppy but the triple threat was great

 

205 Live - Best episode yet

[milamber]

<p>Smackdown finally beat Raw in both viewers and attendance (same arena) <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p>

2.88m vs 2.85m</p><p> </p><p>

13,145 vs 12,708</p>

[Rone Rivendale]

And well deserved, SDL has been the better brand for 90% of the split.

[The Final Countdown]

Just listened to Cornette burying Saxton, which seems funny to me given he always indicates he rarely watches the current product.

Corny reminds me of the stereotypical IWC fan. "Everything about this show sucks and I never waste my time by watching it. Now let me spend twenty minutes ranting about every little detail of this thing I never watch."

 

Unrelated note: a buddy asked me if I was interested in going to Money in the Bank next year, so that's happening. I highly doubt it'll be as memorable as the last WWE show I went to (Raw 1000, where Punk clobbered Rock to begin his heel turn), but here's hoping it'll be a good time at least.

[Blackman]

Though that is true, it's still ridiculously entertaining to hear him rant.

[crownsy]

And well deserved, SDL has been the better brand for 90% of the split.

 

Agreed, I'm hoping at the Rumble or right after we see a call up or three for Smackdown's midcard from NXT, and then it will be the superior brand all around.

 

I still don't get why they didn't give Smackdown the cruiserweights, and put 205 Live on after the show with no cruiserweight division. So stupid.

[The Final Countdown]

Though that is true, it's still ridiculously entertaining to hear him rant.

Oh, absolutely! I take a lot of what he says with a grain of salt, but that doesn't mean I don't find it funny to listen to his furious tirades.

[Blackman]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="crownsy" data-cite="crownsy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> I still don't get why they didn't give Smackdown the cruiserweights</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Isn't it obvious that they'd show themselves on the show with the longest timeslot? I assume they'll slowly lessen their influence until it's just 205.</p>

[Mootinie]

With the Rumble coming up, WWE have to let Dillinger enter at 10 right? Imagine the pop! It literally writes itself too.

[Blackman]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Mootinie" data-cite="Mootinie" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>With the Rumble coming up, WWE have to let Dillinger enter at 10 right? Imagine the pop! It literally writes itself too.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That'd be the bomb. I honestly wouldn't have thought about that, but then again: haven't given any thought about the Rumble. Quite frankly it always ends badly if I do, with me being disappointed or the major pops missing their mark because you expect them somewhat.</p><p> </p><p> But I'm always looking forward to it. Too bad it's way at the end of the month. <img alt=":(" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/frown.png.e6b571745a30fe6a6f2e918994141a47.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[milamber]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Blackman" data-cite="Blackman" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>That'd be the bomb. I honestly wouldn't have thought about that, but then again: haven't given any thought about the Rumble. Quite frankly it always ends badly if I do, with me being disappointed or the major pops missing their mark because you expect them somewhat.<p> </p><p> But I'm always looking forward to it. Too bad it's way at the end of the month. <img alt=":(" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/frown.png.e6b571745a30fe6a6f2e918994141a47.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> AJ's debut was awesome. Can't remember a damn thing about the rest of the PPV.</p>

[Mootinie]

<p>I think Balor is winning it but honestly, anything other than Reigns I will be happy with.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="milamber" data-cite="milamber" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>AJ's debut was awesome. Can't remember a damn thing about the rest of the PPV.</div></blockquote><p> I remember three of Kevin Owens' rivals entering in a row and him scrapping with all three of them. He was brilliant in that match.</p>

[K-Nection]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="milamber" data-cite="milamber" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>AJ's debut was awesome. Can't remember a damn thing about the rest of the PPV.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I remember they flubbed AJ's entrance because they just panned the damn camera on Roman for almost the entirety of it. And I remember they had Hunter go over at the end.....yeah most of that rumble made me sick.</p>

[Russelrules44]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Mootinie" data-cite="Mootinie" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I think Balor is winning it but honestly, anything other than Reigns I will be happy with.<p> </p><p> </p><p> I remember three of Kevin Owens' rivals entering in a row and him scrapping with all three of them. He was brilliant in that match.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I heard a rumor that either Taker or Strowman were the favorites to win it this year. Wouldn't be against a Balor win though.</p>

[milamber]

<p>Someone new should win the Rumble. Strowman would be cool but there's no point if he's jobbing to Reigns at Mania or whatever the plan is.</p><p> </p><p>

Reigns vs Taker is a bad idea, especially since they teased Taker being on Smackdown. That just smacks orf Vince's iindecisiveness.</p><p> </p><p>

I doubt Balor even returns for the Rumble. No need to rush him.</p>

[Russelrules44]

Someone new should win the Rumble. Strowman would be cool but there's no point if he's jobbing to Reigns at Mania or whatever the plan is.

 

Reigns vs Taker is a bad idea, especially since they teased Taker being on Smackdown. That just smacks orf Vince's iindecisiveness.

 

I doubt Balor even returns for the Rumble. No need to rush him.

 

The person I want to win: Seth Rollins or Chris Jericho (C'mon, he's been doing this for years now, give him his due)

The person who will probably win: Maybe Taker or John Cena.

[Greylocke]

Clearly, they're setting up for yet another HISTORY MAKING MOMENT with their Women's division by having Sasha Banks win the Royal Rumble match and using her title shot to challenge Charlotte AGAIN so that the women main event WrestleMania this year for the first time ever. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />

[K-Nection]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Greylocke" data-cite="Greylocke" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Clearly, they're setting up for yet another HISTORY MAKING MOMENT with their Women's division by having Sasha Banks win the Royal Rumble match and using her title shot to challenge Charlotte AGAIN so that the women main event WrestleMania this year for the first time ever. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> LOL as funny as that sounds I would not put it past Vince to try something like that....</p>

[dpoolez]

<p>If we get Roman vs Taker (just from what I've heard) , and Seth vs Triple H, I think we need to see Dean vs Cena for the WWE Title.</p><p> </p><p>

Cena will win against AJ at RR for his historic run (probably his final run), Dean becomes more of the edgy heel he was in his younger days, and Cena passes the torch to Dean in a physically intense LMS match. Dean then goes on to have a good run with the title and drops it to whoever is most built up (as long as its not Cena or AJ)</p><p> </p><p>

Either Cena/Dean for the WWE Title or AJ/Taker for the WWE Title is how I'd book it. Cena gets his final title run, or Taker gets to retire as high as anyone could ask to be.</p><p> </p><p>

If we get AJ/Taker for the WWE Title, then I'd personally have Roman or Dean go against Cena. Whoever doesn't get Cena can fight Nakamura or Joe for a one off match and win.</p><p> </p><p>

One thing for sure is this WM is going to be the first STACKED WM in a long time. Taker, Brock, Goldberg, Triple H, Cena, Orton, Seth, Dean, Roman, AJ, Bray. That's just the absolute top of the card. Not to mention any special appearances by Rock, Austin, HBK, etc.</p><p> </p><p>

If KO is still champion by then, the Universal Title is going to be buried so badly I'd assume. Jericho's outshined him enough as is.</p>

[milamber]

<p>My reaction to Raw: Rematch Edition</p><p> </p><p>

<img alt="tumblr_oj6jslDHhO1u1ljrzo1_540.gif" data-src="https://68.media.tumblr.com/99302264e89717995444522279abae76/tumblr_oj6jslDHhO1u1ljrzo1_540.gif" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p>

Although Zayn vs Strowman and The Kevin Owens Show were good. I guess Reigns' rumored mystery opponent for WM could be Goldberg.</p>

[CQI13]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="dpoolez" data-cite="dpoolez" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>If we get Roman vs Taker (just from what I've heard) , and Seth vs Triple H, I think we need to see Dean vs Cena for the WWE Title.<p> </p><p> Cena will win against AJ at RR for his historic run (probably his final run), Dean becomes more of the edgy heel he was in his younger days, and Cena passes the torch to Dean in a physically intense LMS match. Dean then goes on to have a good run with the title and drops it to whoever is most built up (as long as its not Cena or AJ)</p><p> </p><p> Either Cena/Dean for the WWE Title or AJ/Taker for the WWE Title is how I'd book it. Cena gets his final title run, or Taker gets to retire as high as anyone could ask to be.</p><p> </p><p> If we get AJ/Taker for the WWE Title, then I'd personally have Roman or Dean go against Cena. Whoever doesn't get Cena can fight Nakamura or Joe for a one off match and win.</p><p> </p><p> One thing for sure is this WM is going to be the first STACKED WM in a long time. Taker, Brock, Goldberg, Triple H, Cena, Orton, Seth, Dean, Roman, AJ, Bray. That's just the absolute top of the card. Not to mention any special appearances by Rock, Austin, HBK, etc.</p><p> </p><p> If KO is still champion by then, the Universal Title is going to be buried so badly I'd assume. Jericho's outshined him enough as is.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Reigns is getting the Universal Title at RR - at least that's what has been rumored. KO's next reign will be more memorable I think, though I've enjoyed the Jericho interactions.</p>

[The Final Countdown]

Really good promo with AJ and Cena...and then they send out that turd Baron Corbin.

[mad5226]

Really good promo with AJ and Cena...and then they send out that turd Baron Corbin.

 

I agree, I'm really liking this "edgier" Cena. This was the best promo I've seen from him in years and Styles plays the Villian so well. He made it very easy for me to actually cheer for Cena, which is also something I haven't done in years.

[crownsy]

I agree, I'm really liking this "edgier" Cena. This was the best promo I've seen from him in years and Styles plays the Villian so well. He made it very easy for me to actually cheer for Cena, which is also something I haven't done in years.

 

Agree on the promo's, though i thought Cena kind of lost the thread when he veered into the old standby of "you need this to validate yourself kid, I've been hearing this for years and I always come through!" and I'm like "John, he beat you clean, 1-2-3 and has held the title for a long time now, that doesn't make any sense." still, minor quibble.

 

I slightly disagree on Corbin. While I agree he is still green, I think ever since his fued with Kalisto, he's been very good (the match with Ziggler was good as well). I would have agreed if he came out and demanded a triple threat, but since he stuck to basically saying "I'm going to win the rumble, deal with it" I was ok with it. fit his character.

 

I also liked how he waved AJ off from picking the scraps on Cena and just stuck with "maybe he's right, and you are a has been" in John's face on the mat

 

So many young heels beat Cena down there for the cheap heat, but it wouldn't fit Corbin's character at all. Why would Corbin do Aj's dirty work when he feels he can beat cena any time he wants?

 

good restraint shown by the smackdown writers not to go with the ol tired "young Heel picks older heels' scraps" angle there.