Hyde Hill Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 The order of importance right now in TNA: 1. Nostalgia acts. Hogan, Sting, Nash, EV2, Jarrett etc 2. Guys who are still relevant but got most of their exposure elsewhere. Angle, Hardy, RVD, Anderson VERY VERY BIG GAP 3. Guys who are relevant and got their most exposure in TNA. AJ, Joe, Abyss. Gap 4. Up and coming talented guys. Morgan, Pope, Kaz, Terry (crap). Gap 5. Women's division. Within division sex appeal and ex e rule. 6. Tag division. Gap 7. Gimmicky/sympathy stuff. OJ, EY, Ink Inc, Robbie E etc Gap 8. X Division. How it should be and how I would like it. 1. Still relevant and exposure elsewhere 2. Relevent and exposure in TNA. Small gap. 3. Up and coming talents and head-liners different divisions. 4. Tag division 5. X Division 6. Women, with focus on in ring skill and sex appeal secondary and as anti what the division is about. Gap 7. Nostalgia 8. Gimmicky sympathy stuff jobbers. If you want me to explain the why and the assumptions behind it please ask or read my TNA diary lolz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpapa42 Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 <p>Simply put, simplify. </p><p> </p><p> Primarily, make the wrestling important again. No more 12 minutes of wrestling on a 2-hour show. I feel that in-ring action is where TNA can most differentiate themselves from the WWE and really shine, so do it. That doesn't mean going to the opposite extreme and trying to be pure wrestling. It just means that wrestling will be a primary focus, with the storylines to support it, rather than vice versa as it is now.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Self Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 <p>Most of the complaints on this board aren't in this direction, and for all I know you're stalwart supporters of indy wrestling, but this thought has been rolling around the old noodle today...</p><p> </p><p> If you want to see more of the X-Division style, maybe you should stop hoping that TNA will change their tune, and support a promotion like PWG. Right now, I think the big companies hear "push the cruiserweight" type recommendations, look at PWG running in rinky-dink venues, and think "clearly that doesn't draw, let's be different to that". What if it did draw? What if every frustrated X-Division fan started buying PWG DVD's to get their fix? If the bigger promotions see that style drawing money, perhaps they will change their ways. Ditto 'Women who can work'. SHIMMER is doing just that. Why ignore them and continue giving money and ratings to TNA?</p><p> </p><p> As for random "What I would do" suggestions. I'd put the ball on Jeff Hardy. Not Hogan or Jarrett or Eric. Just Jeff. Sick, twisted, weirdo Jeff (and maybe Matt) Jeff on top feuds with RVD, Kennedy and Angle, one at a time. Deeply personal feuds in which an almost Joker-like Hardy messes with their minds and 'crosses the line' into realms the wrestling business has never seen before. Psychological warfare from a psychotic, psychedelic lone wolf. I want him to mess with their families and ruin their lives. </p><p> </p><p> I'd solidify Fortune and make them the No1 heel faction, and with the exception of Hardy, top heels. Flair. Kaz, AJ, Beer Money. No more infighting. No more additions. They head up the charge for the other belts. MCMG vs AJ & Kaz. Lethal vs Storm. Roode holding the TV strap. That's right, I'd mix it up for a couple of months before revisiting Beer Money vs MCMG. </p><p> </p><p> I'd also fire 15 guys, and replace them with 5 fresh faces from the indy scene, who would be pushed strong out of the bat. Currently, Robbie E is the only guy on the roster who is fresh and new. Hard to get excited about guys I've seen flounder for years.</p><p> </p><p> That's what I'd do at any rate. We're into fantasy booking territory, but what the hell. I had to do something while waiting for the washing machine to finish.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHilton Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Self" data-cite="Self" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> As for random "What I would do" suggestions. I'd put the ball on Jeff Hardy. Not Hogan or Jarrett or Eric. Just Jeff. Sick, twisted, weirdo Jeff (and maybe Matt) Jeff on top feuds with RVD, Kennedy and Angle, one at a time. Deeply personal feuds in which an almost Joker-like Hardy messes with their minds and 'crosses the line' into realms the wrestling business has never seen before. Psychological warfare from a psychotic, psychedelic lone wolf. I want him to mess with their families and ruin their lives. </p><p> </p><p> I'd solidify Fortune and make them the No1 heel faction, and with the exception of Hardy, top heels. Flair. Kaz, AJ, Beer Money. No more infighting. No more additions. They head up the charge for the other belts. MCMG vs AJ & Kaz. Lethal vs Storm. Roode holding the TV strap. That's right, I'd mix it up for a couple of months before revisiting Beer Money vs MCMG. </p><p> </p><p> I'd also fire 15 guys, and replace them with 5 fresh faces from the indy scene, who would be pushed strong out of the bat. Currently, Robbie E is the only guy on the roster who is fresh and new. Hard to get excited about guys I've seen flounder for years.</p><p> </p><p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I love all of that. Especially the idea of Hardy/Angle. Kurt is one of the better actors there are as far as wrestlers go. And you'd have a TON of material to work with depending on how far Kurt was willing to let things go. Especially with JJ in a stable with Hardy.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyde Hill Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 <p>I don't think fanatasy booking is that bad as long as it is not revisionist booking. It's a lot easier to work in hindsight. Not detracting from the excellent diaries out there but more that it is easier to say: "well they did that wrong and they should/could have done that"</p><p> Instead of : "Going forward this is what they should do and this is why".</p><p> </p><p> One problem is is that we lack a lot of information. What do the talent contracts look like? What are the demands of Spike TV? What where the results of the survey and how was it set up? What do the minute by minutes look like? Etc etc.</p><p> </p><p> As far as the PWG/ROH/Other indies argument goes: Production Value and Storyline minimum they just don't reach that for me. TNA does and has the potential to give me X style wrestling for instance as they have shown they can deliver that in the past.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazorbeak Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 I like Self's idea a lot too. Basically push things forward: stop dwelling in nostalgia and do something that fans five years from now will say "aw man they don't have angles as good as <em>that</em> anymore." WWE won't do it because they don't have to; TNA is in a much better position to take more creative risks. I mean, could they do any worse than NWO redux take a million or the Four Horseman Junior? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Self Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hyde Hill" data-cite="Hyde Hill" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>As far as the PWG/ROH/Other indies argument goes: Production Value and Storyline minimum they just don't reach that for me. TNA does and has the potential to give me X style wrestling for instance as they have shown they can deliver that in the past.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I can dig that. I love slick production values and coherent storytelling. However, I'll bite the bullet and suffer through some dodgy production values, as long as I get to see some fun X-Division style wrestling. For me, right now, it's worth it. Especially consider the top promotions aren't currently delivering a product I enjoy.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TracyBrooksFan Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 <p>Lacey Von Erich has announced that she has parted ways with TNA.</p><p> </p><p> Writing on her Twitter page, Lacey wrote: I decided to respectfully leave TNA today. I want to try new things, like be a sports host or something Smiley Love ya’ll!”</p><p> </p><p> Diva-Dirt</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHilton Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 That is absolutely the best thing that could've happened to the KOs I hope she's a total failure in everything she does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyde Hill Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Don't hope she is a total failure but do hope she remains miles away from a wrestling ring. I wonder who is responsible for the apparent resurgence of the booking of the KO's its not just Mickie's signing but general it seems from what I have read more focus on the girls that can wrestle with the good looking ones as the anti Knock Out's/garnish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slagaholic Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 That is absolutely the best thing that could've happened to the KOs I hope she's a total failure in everything she does So you hope she's a Von Erich? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHilton Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 No...I don't want her to die tragically. (that was in terrible taste) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slagaholic Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Hey not every Von Erich died tragically. In fact most of them died quite pathetically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashasheen Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Slagaholic" data-cite="Slagaholic" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Hey not every Von Erich died tragically. In fact most of them died quite pathetically.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Wat</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slagaholic Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 <p>Fritz - Cancer</p><p> David - Suicide</p><p> Kerry - Suicide</p><p> Mike - Suicide</p><p> Chris - Suicide</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slagaholic Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 I have to admit, Immortal's DixieTron is awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwt13 Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 I like the theme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slagaholic Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 LOL @ Hogan's nicotine patch. Wear sleeves at least brother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slagaholic Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Oy! I hope there isn't video of Jeff drinkething from the cup of Hulkamania... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slagaholic Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Jeeze look at how they bury the faces. Who's on who's side? Ugh this is NWO all over again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwt13 Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Taylor Wilde is one ugly Chick IMO but cookie is sexy as hell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slagaholic Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 <p>I wouldn't call her ugly, she's more mediocre.</p><p> </p><p> I'd destroy Hamada tho.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwt13 Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Slagaholic" data-cite="Slagaholic" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I wouldn't call her ugly, she's more mediocre.<p> </p><p> I'd destroy Hamada tho.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Your right about Wilde but I see nothing in Hamada</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Final Countdown Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 I thought Ayako was more attractive like a decade ago, but I wouldn't say no today. Of course, she wouldn't be able to understand what I was saying one way or the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djthefunkchris Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 <p>Very little spoiler:</p><p> </p><p> Hmm, that was an interesting <span style="color:#FFFFFF;">retirement</span> speach.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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