BHK1978 Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Haven't seen it talked about much in this thread maybe I missed it but I thought I would bring it up regardless. What do you guys think about TNA changing their name when the company is only a little less than nine years old. I believe it will hurt them to be honest because even though its not very recognizable people still do recognize the TNA name and if the change their name then they might have to start over completely as far as building a loyal fanbase is concerned. I have not read about this yet. What are they changing their name to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakerNGN74 Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 I heard they were thinking Impact Pro Wrestling which is already taken by a company down in Flordia. They had a few other names too but I can't remember what else they were thinking of besides the one that they can't use because its being used already. I heard that it will have Impact and Wrestling in the name but as far as what the third word of the name would be I have no idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantabulous Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 I believe it will hurt them to be honest because even though its not very recognizable people still do recognize the TNA name and if the change their name then they might have to start over completely as far as building a loyal fanbase is concerned. TNA have such a loyal fanbase that anyone they haven't run off already is unlikely to be run off at all. In any event, it won't matter what the new name is because it's not the name that's the problem with TNA. Unfortunately, it's not like TNA are the first wrestling company to be unable or unwilling to address their real problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZMAN Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Changing their name isn't going to a damn thing for them. The article I read also had, "TNA has been spending millions and millions of dollars in recent years establishing the company as a "WWE lite" sports entertainment company. They've signed Hulk Hogan, Ric Flair, RVD, Jeff Hardy, Mr. Anderson and plenty more WWE castoffs with little-to-no return on their money.It's been suggested that TNA drastically cut its budget, release most of the expensive top-tier talent and run a promotion that focuses on younger, smaller performers - which would finally give the company an identity that's completely different from WWE." I'm all for those changes. Cutting the old guys or failed WWE talent would free up at least 10 spots. After that, merge the X Title with the World Title and make the X division style the actual standard for the promotion. Would be a major overhaul, but I think it would be exciting. Doubt it actually happens though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Steel Cage Match for the TNA World Heavyweight Championship: Sting © vs. Mr. Anderson vs. Rob Van Dam Steel Cage Match: Kurt Angle vs. Jeff Jarrett (with Karen Jarrett) Lethal Lockdown Match: Team Immortal (Abyss, Bully Ray, Matt Hardy and Ric Flair) vs. Team Fortune (James Storm, Kazarian, Robert Roode and Daniels) Steel Cage Match: Hernandez vs. Matt Morgan Steel Cage Match: D'Angelo Dinero vs. Samoa Joe Steel Cage Title vs. Hair Match for the TNA Women's Knockout Championship: Madison Rayne © vs. Mickie James X Division Ultimate Xscape Match: Amazing Red vs. Brian Kendrick vs. Chris Sabin, Jay Lethal vs. Jeremy Buck vs. Max Buck vs. Robbie E vs. Suicide Four Way Tornado Tag Team Steel Cage Match: Jesse Neal and Shannon Moore vs. Crimson and Scott Steiner vs. Eric Young and Orlando Jordan vs. Douglas Williams and Magnus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20LEgend Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Steel Cage Match for the TNA World Heavyweight Championship: Sting © vs. Mr. Anderson vs. Rob Van Dam Steel Cage Match: Kurt Angle vs. Jeff Jarrett (with Karen Jarrett) Lethal Lockdown Match: Team Immortal (Abyss, Bully Ray, Matt Hardy and Ric Flair) vs. Team Fortune (James Storm, Kazarian, Robert Roode and Daniels) Steel Cage Match: Hernandez vs. Matt Morgan Steel Cage Match: D'Angelo Dinero vs. Samoa Joe Steel Cage Title vs. Hair Match for the TNA Women's Knockout Championship: Madison Rayne © vs. Mickie James Don't ruin Mickey. Please! X Division Ultimate Xscape Match: Amazing Red vs. Brian Kendrick vs. Chris Sabin, Jay Lethal vs. Jeremy Buck vs. Max Buck vs. Robbie E vs. Suicide Everything crossed Four Way Tornado Tag Team Steel Cage Match: Jesse Neal and Shannon Moore vs. Crimson and Scott Steiner vs. Eric Young and Orlando Jordan vs. Douglas Williams and Magnus ALL FACES TO WIN!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nedew Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 "It's been suggested that TNA drastically cut its budget, release most of the expensive top-tier talent and run a promotion that focuses on younger, smaller performers - which would finally give the company an identity that's completely different from WWE." So... basically... ROH? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Stallion Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Changing their name isn't going to a damn thing for them. The article I read also had, "TNA has been spending millions and millions of dollars in recent years establishing the company as a "WWE lite" sports entertainment company. They've signed Hulk Hogan, Ric Flair, RVD, Jeff Hardy, Mr. Anderson and plenty more WWE castoffs with little-to-no return on their money.It's been suggested that TNA drastically cut its budget, release most of the expensive top-tier talent and run a promotion that focuses on younger, smaller performers - which would finally give the company an identity that's completely different from WWE." I'm all for those changes. Cutting the old guys or failed WWE talent would free up at least 10 spots. After that, merge the X Title with the World Title and make the X division style the actual standard for the promotion. Would be a major overhaul, but I think it would be exciting. Doubt it actually happens though. I dont know man. I think there is a place in TNA for guys like Kurt Angle and Sting, while still making them different than the WWE. All TNA needs to do to differentiate themselves would be to do what TNA does best, and thats focus on the the in-ring talent over the entertainment portion of it all. There is a place for the sports-entertainment side of it all, heck thats what gets people interested. You need those back stories and rivalries to fuel the fire so to speak. If you totally cut out the entertainment portion of it you would have a niche product like that of ROH. ROH, while a great promotion, will never be more than it is unless it evolves to incorporate that sports-entertainment side of it. Not saying that that should be front and center, but it needs to be a part of it. I dont particularly mind Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff, however there role needs to be cut back drastically. Hogan should be the spokesman for TNA. He should be doing the talk shows and radio shows, hyping up TNA. Bischoff could still be an on air character much in the role he is in now. If they are going to go this whole Immortal route, then somebody other that Sting needs to be the guy trying to bring them down. It needs to be the next big star. Someone like AJ, Joe, Daniels or Pope. TNA can be different while not getting ride of anybody at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rone Rivendale Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 This is a bit off topic but I really dislike when people talk about WWE cast offs like they are damaged goods. If I worked at Wal-Mart and they fired me, would you discourage me to work at K-Mart? It's a matter of working in the profession that you are trained in. If you trained to be a welder and you got fired at the factory you worked at, you wouldn't become an exile, you would move on to another job welding at another place. Long story short, there is nothing wrong with someone who used to be in WWE, working for another wrestling company. And people shouldn't call them cast offs, or rejects, or has beens. It's their chosen career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20LEgend Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 This is a bit off topic but I really dislike when people talk about WWE cast offs like they are damaged goods. I agree with this, I think the issue is when there are more talented guys out there but they sign old WWE is when it's an issue. Dinero is barely recognisable from his WWE and I say as long as they use these guys well and think about their characters rather than just using them because they are WWE guys it's great that they are getting another chance, it's just a shame some more talented guys are being left on the indies, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cappyboy Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Haven't seen it talked about much in this thread maybe I missed it but I thought I would bring it up regardless. What do you guys think about TNA changing their name when the company is only a little less than nine years old. I believe it will hurt them to be honest because even though its not very recognizable people still do recognize the TNA name and if the change their name then they might have to start over completely as far as building a loyal fanbase is concerned. I don't think it's any secret what I think. It doesn't matter if it hurts them in the short term. It NEEDS to happen if they ever want to be the company they try to project themselves as. The TNA acronym was just fine when they were part of the NWA and Total Nonstop Action was just a subtitle. But ever since they left the NWA, that acronym has been a potential problem. If you're not a die-hard wrestling fan, what do you think of when you hear the letters TNA? I'll tell you what you think of. You expect the N to be an ampersand and you expect to see skin on display as far as the eye can see. You expect a show that essentially wrestling flavored soft porn. That perception will eventually impede their growth as more conservative would-be fans won't tune in to start with and the randy uninitiated will get annoyed by the lack of boobies on parade. They either need to embrace the mental image inherent in their current acronym and be prepared to remake their audience and roster accordingly. Or they need to ditch the TNA name for something that more clearly says "wrestling promotion." As long as they try riding high in the straddle with their identity, they are always going to be a cult promotion that only we base fans know for what they actually are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek B Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Just popping in to make my last contribution to this thread for a few days since I won't be watching the PPV for a few days and will need to avoid spoilers. TNA has run a number of polls on Facebook asking fans to predict the winners of matches. Here's the internet's quick picks, which I feel is surprising given that I would assume most internet fans to be more smarky in their choice of picks. Sting Fortune Kurt Angle Matt Morgan Samoa Joe Mickie James Scott Steiner/Crimson Chris Sabin All faces for those keeping score at home... anyone else find that interesting or is it just me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20LEgend Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Just popping in to make my last contribution to this thread for a few days since I won't be watching the PPV for a few days and will need to avoid spoilers. TNA has run a number of polls on Facebook asking fans to predict the winners of matches. Here's the internet's quick picks, which I feel is surprising given that I would assume most internet fans to be more smarky in their choice of picks. Sting Fortune Kurt Angle Matt Morgan Samoa Joe Mickie James Scott Steiner/Crimson Chris Sabin All faces for those keeping score at home... anyone else find that interesting or is it just me? It is weird but I just seems right on this PPV, Sting needs a long reign, Flair doesn't win, Kurt needs the win after losing 2 in a row and it is the blow off match, Morgan lost last month, Joe has looked a lot better than Pope in the feud (although a win could see him into a Sting story [they have the "they" storyline bckgrnd],) Mickie CAN NOT lose her hair, Steiner is above pop wise everyone in that match, and most people love Sabin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaySo Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Shame they can't get the rights to NWA and use the name "Nonstop Wrestling Action." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cappyboy Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Shame they can't get the rights to NWA and use the name "Nonstop Wrestling Action." Indeed. That name would ease the transition and solve the identity problem that comes with the TNA acronym. Maybe they could be NAW. Nonstop Action Wrestling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russo Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 that crowd is huge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Ok, that Red/Sabin Cradle Shock spot was awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astil Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Those two signs at the beginning of the KO match = me turning off the PPV and declaring TNA dead to me. Tasteless by the fans and tasteless that the company would highlight them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20LEgend Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 What was that? Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astil Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 What was that? Why? What Women Are Good At Jello Wrestling Pudding Wrestling Pro Wrestling <- Crossed Out as well as Hey Mickie, winning the belt will add ten pounds to your waistline. I remember Kim v. Kong and the division being built around talent. They've gone so far away from that it's disgusting. Wasted potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russo Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 What Women Are Good At Jello Wrestling Pudding Wrestling Pro Wrestling <- Crossed Out as well as Hey Mickie, winning the belt will add ten pounds to your waistline. I remember Kim v. Kong and the division being built around talent. They've gone so far away from that it's disgusting. Wasted potential. they made me lol tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 I'm sorry, but how is Mickie or Madison bad? They're both above average workers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astil Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 I'm sorry, but how is Mickie or Madison bad? They're both above average workers. Didn't say they weren't. It's focus of the division. It's an eye candy division, like in WWE. They used to show these promos about how they weren't about looks, but now they're showing these kinds of signs on there PPVs. It's sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liontamer Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Agreed. The talk of signing the 'castoffs' just reminds of how epically bad WWF failed when it tried to become WCW-lite by signing losers like Mean Mark Callous, Jean Paul Levesque, or those two nobody's in the hollywood blondes. Like those guys had any potential...What a flop that turned out to be..... also reminds me of the even more epic failure of WCW to then return the favor by stealing a bunch of big WWE names and throwing them all in some big group of invaders. Like that was gonna work... Personally the biggest mistake TNA made in my eyes was the unsuccessful move to Mondays. It was a good idea to try, but had too many problems with logistics (constantly changing timeslots, adding/subtracting reaction, bad timing relative to WM and to Hart's return, etc) and not having enough big storylines to keep the crowd from turning to WWE. That said, I applaud them for taking the risk as I think it needed to be done and had potential for a huge upside if it had gone remotely well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Didn't say they weren't. It's focus of the division. It's an eye candy division, like in WWE. They used to show these promos about how they weren't about looks, but now they're showing these kinds of signs on there PPVs. It's sad. I'm sure it wasn't on purpose. I didn't even notice the signs haha I think this is a pretty good show so far honestly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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