Jaysin Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Arrows" data-cite="Arrows" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Honestly, United States does make sense to be a secondary championship in that regard. Far more so than an "Intercontinental" title.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You do know that the continents represented by the IC title are North America and South America right? Pat Patterson "unified" his North American Championship with a fictional South American Championship to create it.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrows Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You do know that the continents represented by the IC title are North America and South America right? Pat Patterson "unified" his North American Championship with a fictional South American Championship to create it.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Was not aware of that. Thanks for the explanation. Always figured they meant all the continents.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Arrows" data-cite="Arrows" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Was not aware of that. Thanks for the explanation. Always figured they meant all the continents.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> No problem at all.</p><p> </p><p> On the topic of secondary titles, at least TNA doesn't call the Television title the Global Championship any more. I like the name, but not as a secondary championship to a World Championship since ya know, global=world. </p><p> </p><p> I can't believe TNA hasn't retired that belt though. When was the last time Abyss even appeared with it or that it was even mentioned? My viewings of TNA have been sporadic at best.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrows Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>No problem at all.<p> </p><p> On the topic of secondary titles, at least TNA doesn't call the Television title the Global Championship any more. I like the name, but not as a secondary championship to a World Championship since ya know, global=world. </p><p> </p><p> I can't believe TNA hasn't retired that belt though. When was the last time Abyss even appeared with it or that it was even mentioned? My viewings of TNA have been sporadic at best.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It gets mentioned from time to time now, with the Joseph Park storyline starting to come to it's conclussion.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayW Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You do know that the continents represented by the IC title are North America and South America right? Pat Patterson "unified" his North American Championship with a fictional South American Championship to create it.</div></blockquote><p> I have to disagree with this statement. The title faceplate has always included the European and African continents on it, so I do believe it has always meant to represent a number of continents as well as North and South America. Otherwise it'd be silly to feature them continents on the faceplate.</p><p> </p><p> Back to TNA though; didn't the TV/Global Title start off as the Legends Title?</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="RayW" data-cite="RayW" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I have to disagree with this statement. The title faceplate has always included the European and African continents on it, so I do believe it has always meant to represent a number of continents as well as North and South America. Otherwise it'd be silly to feature them continents on the faceplate.<p> </p><p> Back to TNA though; didn't the TV/Global Title start off as the Legends Title?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I agree that it's silly, but that's literally what the WWE has said the title represents and how it was created.</p><p> </p><p> Yeah, the TV/Global Title was the Legends title.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayW Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I agree that it's silly, but that's literally what the WWE has said the title represents and how it was created.<p> </p><p> Yeah, the TV/Global Title was the Legends title.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Oh right, if they say so then I can't argue with that. What was the premise of the Legends title? I know Booker held it, but who was qualified to fight for it?</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="RayW" data-cite="RayW" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Oh right, if they say so then I can't argue with that. What was the premise of the Legends title? I know Booker held it, but who was qualified to fight for it?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Booker created the belt and it was "unsanctioned" by TNA and he said he'd only defend it against those he saw fit. Booker defended it against AJ Styles and part of the contract or whatever was that it had to be a TNA title and AJ won. Cornette made it a sanctioned title after that. Nash and Foley held it after that. There really wasn't a prerequisite to fight for it, but all of the initial holders were former world champions if that means anything.</p><p> </p><p> It became the Global Championship when Eric Young won it from Nash. He made it so that only non Americans could challenge for the title. He lost it to Rob Terry(Welsh), who then lost it to AJ Styles during the Fortune storyline. It was renamed the TV title because of the history of the NWA/WCW Television title.</p><p> </p><p> So convoluted for a title that's so young. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OctoberRaven Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 <p>Bully Ray's story post-An8s has been an absolute trainwreck of garbage.</p><p> </p><p> Even Russo would be better.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OctoberRaven Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 <p>Note to TNA marks: If AJ wins this, you all lose the right to mock WWE for pushing Cena as a Superman forever.</p><p> </p><p> EDIT- Well, at least TNA aren't that thick.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truly Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 <p> </p><div class="ipsEmbeddedVideo"><div><iframe width="200" height="113" src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/NinNy5dsJqk?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="" title="World Title Unification Match: AJ Styles vs. Magnus (January 9, 2014)"></iframe></div></div><p> </p><p> I had actually successfully avoided reading any spoilers regarding this match as I wanted to be genuinely surprised by how it would turn out... I wish I had read the spoilers now instead, what a load of crap.</p><p> </p><p> Was it really too much to ask to allow Magnus and AJ to have an awesome match, man-to-man, de hombre a hombre, then when it would seem like AJ would retain thats when you decide to have the run-in screwjob, just a bit LESS excessive and obvious? The booking for that entire match was horrible, even the casual fan watching this would've known the eventual outcome right away with the absolute overkill of interference! This debacle of a send-off and departure of Styles has me questioning more than ever the future quality, or lack thereof, of the TNA product in the next few months. Was WCW this bad when it was on its last legs? <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/frown.png.e6b571745a30fe6a6f2e918994141a47.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderz Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 <p>I've not watched any TNA in a while but did sit and watch that match.. Now I don't normally have a lot to moan about with wrestling but damn that was terrible..</p><p> </p><p> First off, the announcing was poor.. Sounded like Tenay and Taz just didn't give a damn - didn't make it seem like this was important at all.. No enthusiasm for much of the match..</p><p> </p><p> My understanding of the 'storyline' is that AJ is leaving and Dixie is trying everything she can do to stop him taking the belt.. But this was daft.. it made Magnus look like a joke and made AJ look great.. And AJ is leaving.. (Massive props to AJ for doing that on his way out - could've easily just walked away into the sunset)..</p><p> </p><p> What's the point in stacking the deck so heavily against a guy who's leaving.. Just have Magnus pin him clean in 5 minutes and you accomplish more.. You lr Champion looks strong and the guy who is leaving doesn't..</p><p> </p><p> This type of 'match' only works if AJ is gonna come back and eventually overcome all the odds.. Doesn't work if AJ is gone and never to be see. Again and your left with a champion who needed 8 guys to help him win..</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Makes no sense whatsoever..</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebsplex Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 <p>Yeah, strange approach indeed.</p><p> </p><p> I get keeping AJ looking strong. He's given years to to TNA so in many ways, so in the least, he deserved to come out with his stock high. What I don't get is how the booking is supposed to make Magnus look going forward. </p><p> </p><p> If you were determined to book a bout with such a high degree of interference and other shenanigans, it would have made more sense to have had Spud somehow pick up the title (a fluke win obviously) and have Magnus playing the role they gave to Roode in this. That way, the interference is necessary because no one should believe Spud is on AJ's level, Magnus would be able to lay claim to being the one who finally put AJ down, Dixie would 'transfer' the belt from Spud to Magnus and then if/when AJ pops up in TNA again, you've got a ready-made feud with Magnus to see whether he could stand toe-to-toe with the departered former champ.</p><p> </p><p> I could have even lived with this if Magnus had made it clear he didn't want all this interference during the various twists, felt he didn't need the help and Dixie should have more faith in him, at least finished off AJ himself and then sewed some seeds of doubt as to whether he's really Dixie's ideal champion if he's not gracious enough to accept her 'support'. You could have even had him throw Roode out of the ring before the end to set something up there.</p><p> </p><p> Instead, AJ looked great but is gone, Magnus looked desperate for every bit of help he received and Roode looks more of a legitimate champion material than the guy who actually has the belt. Maybe that's the plan, but it's not what I would have gone with.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I honestly like the direction TNA is seemingly going, but I don't like how they're getting there. I love Magnus and I love that he's champion, but I hate that he's only winning in overbooked messes. It's mind boggling to me that they draw a million viewers a week and they book garbage. I wish they could get someone else in creative to just do a complete revamp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh_Showtime Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 <p>I have been a fan of Magnus for years since the British Invasion with Nigel and Im glad to see him on top but his booking has been atrocious. </p><p> </p><p> This goes on way before the AJ saga, it starts with them turning him heel way back around the summer and the feud with Sting. Magnus could have been pushed to be a strong babyface champion and now he's looking like the weakest champion in the last decade plus of US wrestling.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I have been a fan of Magnus for years since the British Invasion with Nigel and Im glad to see him on top but his booking has been atrocious. <p> </p><p> This goes on way before the AJ saga, it starts with them turning him heel way back around the summer and the feud with Sting. Magnus could have been pushed to be a strong babyface champion and now he's looking like the weakest champion in the last decade plus of US wrestling.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> British Invasion was Magnus and Doug Williams. Nigel and Magnus were London Brawling. It's a shame Nigel was forced to retire, they had insane chemistry together. I can honestly say though that I have been a fan of Magnus since his stupid gladiator gimmick. I hated the gimmick, but I liked him.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh_Showtime Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Nigel actually could still be wrestling but he can't go to WWE so he would rather stay retired. In his words "he's already done everything else". I recently watched him on the Kevin Steen show and it was a great watch. He was pretty open about everything and it's sad for me as a fan to see how he feels about everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Dixie has been posting on twitter about new talents coming to Impact this week. She posted this on Twitter as a hint. I almost feel like she's hinting it's the American Wolves just to throw everyone off the trail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macca316 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Dixie has been posting on twitter about new talents coming to Impact this week. She posted this on Twitter as a hint. I almost feel like she's hinting it's the American Wolves just to throw everyone off the trail. Sweet cannot wait for the debut of Dr Eugustine Endrozo.... you TNA fans are in for a treat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwt13 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Dixie has been posting on twitter about new talents coming to Impact this week. She posted this on Twitter as a hint. I almost feel like she's hinting it's the American Wolves just to throw everyone off the trail. Dr.Dre and Easy E will be reunited!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 I actually watched Impact tonight and I was honestly really entertained for the most part. I hate Rockstar Spud's name, but I love him. Dixie was fairly good on the mic throughout the night. Bully Ray and Anderson had a fun no dq match. I love Anderson's new look. Anyone know what DTOM means? It's on the back of Anderson's tights. I was originally guessing Drop The O___ Mic, but I can't think of a word that makes sense unless it's "Overhead". Don't Tread On Me is another possibility. The piledriver to end the match was gnarly looking. I'm excited that Madison Rayne won the Knockouts title, but the finish was flat and the announcers ignoring that she hit her finisher didn't help matters. Sting and EC3 had a fun little match going that ended the way it should have, but it's leading to Magnus and Sting again. Sting challenged Magnus for the title and Magnus reminded him that since Sting lost at Slammiversary, he's not allowed to challenge for the title again. To make it worth it to Magnus, Sting is leaving TNA. So either Sting leaves TNA or he's TNA Champion. So it's a lose-lose in my opinion. Also, they're doing yet another power struggle storyline. The American Wolves were signed by the "new investor". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh_Showtime Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 <p>It wouldnt have been as bad to me if it wasnt supposed to be a PPV episode. It had long promo segments and short matches. EC3 is by far my favorite in TNA these days though, I just wish that Dixie wasnt involved in everything because she's really just not that good. They should have learned their lesson with the Claire Lynch story though admittedly Dixie is at least improved from then.</p><p> </p><p> The Wolves debut was a big letdown but they should kick the crap out of the Bromans and take the titles from Dixieland soon enough</p><p> </p><p> I haven't been paying much attention to TNA recently but Anderson looks to be in great shape.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtplaystew Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 <p>Wait you guys are pissed that magnus is winning these crazy overbooked matches? You're pissed at how AJ lost the belt? Yea that's horrible booking and TOTALLY not what TNA was going for...</p><p> </p><p> marks</p><p> </p><p> :-P</p><p> </p><p> I kid, I kid. I don't mean that point seriously I'm just playing around with points of view. I think one can knock TNA for a wide variety of things, but getting their fans to hate their heels is something they've been consistently good at for some time now.</p><p> </p><p> If they can only give their bayfaces the same treatment...</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh_Showtime Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 So you think Dixie Carter having multiple 10-15 minute segments a show is good because it builds heel heat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtplaystew Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>So you think Dixie Carter having multiple 10-15 minute segments a show is good because it builds heel heat?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> What? Where did I say that? I made (what I thought was) a humorous observation, man.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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