CQI13 Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Over/under on how quickly Fredi Gonzalez lands with the Atlanta Braves after being let go by the Marlins? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GatorBait19 Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="CQI13" data-cite="CQI13" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="26724" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Over/under on how quickly Fredi Gonzalez lands with the Atlanta Braves after being let go by the Marlins?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I think Fredi would do well with the Braves. First he has coached for them in the past so he knows the team. Second he is a guy known for not taking crap as well as getting the most of so little. With the Braves he'd have a bigger payroll and fits the Bobby Cox mold (fiery with a knack to get a team to overachieve).</p><p> </p><p> All in all I think it'd be a smart hire for the Braves.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Also another guy I like to be a canidate this year for a manger position is Dave Martinez. He is currently the bench coach of the Rays and has the knowledge for the game. He has worked under Maddon now for 5 years and I hear nothing, but great things about him.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CQI13 Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 At least they didn't fire him on a West Coast trip. Most callers down here are slamming the move. No way, with the (lack of) talent the Marlins have, are they WS contenders. And Fredi had to put up with a lot of garbage thrown at him by management (Emilio Bonifacio, Andrew Miller, Camero Maybin). Shame really. There's speculation he'll be replaced by a big name as early as Friday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GatorBait19 Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="CQI13" data-cite="CQI13" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="26724" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>At least they didn't fire him on a West Coast trip. Most callers down here are slamming the move. No way, with the (lack of) talent the Marlins have, are they WS contenders. And Fredi had to put up with a lot of garbage thrown at him by management (Emilio Bonifacio, Andrew Miller, Camero Maybin). Shame really. There's speculation he'll be replaced by a big name as early as Friday.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It sucks because if they wouldn't have traded Miguel they would have a lineup with</p><p> </p><p> Miguel at 1st or 3rd</p><p> Gabe might have been traded or stayed at 1st</p><p> Cantu is a player he would have gone to the OF to help</p><p> Hanley</p><p> Uggla</p><p> and Stanton</p><p> </p><p> Remember though, this is a team that fired Joe G. because he clashed with the owner, even though he took a low payroll team and pushed them to .500</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GatorBait19 Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 okay, so no one else might be as happy as me with this..... but they writer and director of Major Leagues confirmed there is a sequal in the works and Charlie S. said he is already down for it. He wants to get everyone back including Wesley Snipes. I'm so excited Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CQI13 Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Wow, that'd be atrocious. Though maybe this time Wesley Snipes will pay his taxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GatorBait19 Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Wow, that'd be atrocious. Though maybe this time Wesley Snipes will pay his taxes. I think it could be a good movie. Pretty much the story would be Wild Thing comes out of retirement to work with a 19 year old kid. The movie would introduce 3 new char. (so if they wanted to continue the series afterwards). Tom would come back as the manger again. I'm guessing Welsey would be at the twilight of his career. Ward even wants Corbin (Roger Dorin) to come back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imarevenant Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 David Ward is also responsible for Major League II and Major League: Back to the Minors. So you might want to temper that excitement a bit lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHK1978 Posted June 23, 2010 Author Share Posted June 23, 2010 At least they didn't fire him on a West Coast trip. Most callers down here are slamming the move. No way, with the (lack of) talent the Marlins have, are they WS contenders. And Fredi had to put up with a lot of garbage thrown at him by management (Emilio Bonifacio, Andrew Miller, Camero Maybin). Shame really. There's speculation he'll be replaced by a big name as early as Friday. I heard Bobby Valentine, which I am not sure how that would work out because he is a no b.s. type of manager or at least I think he is. I am not sure how he would deal with a front office that is not willing to spend money and at the same time expect you to win. I mean sure every five years or so you can do so but it will not happen on a regular basis if you have an owner who is unwilling to invest in his team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GatorBait19 Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 David Ward is also responsible for Major League II and Major League: Back to the Minors. So you might want to temper that excitement a bit lol actually Ward had nothing to do with the third one. Only some of his charc. were used. Now, the second wasn't the best ever, but I still thought it was funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CQI13 Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 I'd welcome that move. But like you said, it would be odd (since Girardi got them to overachieve and got fired for being stubborn). But managers seem to go in waves (i.e. you get the no nonsense guy, followed by the relaxed guy, and back again to the no nonsense). I'm a big Valentine fan. It would be especially good for me because a friend of mine (a Mets fan) wants him back there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GatorBait19 Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BHK1978" data-cite="BHK1978" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="26724" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I heard Bobby Valentine, which I am not sure how that would work out because he is a no b.s. type of manager or at least I think he is. I am not sure how he would deal with a front office that is not willing to spend money and at the same time expect you to win.<p> </p><p> I mean sure every five years or so you can do so but it will not happen on a regular basis if you have an owner who is unwilling to invest in his team.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Well the Marlins front office is under watch by the union and the league for not spending money. They told the league they would increase their payroll each year up to the year they move into the park.</p><p> </p><p> Also Valentine use to get ejected from games and wear an outfit so he could continue to watch the game.<img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GatorBait19 Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 <p>Man, Tampa and St. Pete has become a hostile battle zone.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Stu Sternberg (Rays' owner) came out the other day and said the Rays need a new stadium or it could come to a point where the team might have to move.</p><p> </p><p> People from St. Pete say the Trop is good enough to hold a baseball team and in a great location right off an interstate.</p><p> </p><p> Here is my view though.</p><p> </p><p> 1) To anyone who has been to the Trop the seats are small, views suck, and catwalk causes dumb problems.</p><p> </p><p> 2) How is it in a key area just because it's off an interstate?</p><p> </p><p> If you google Tropicana Field and look at it on a map you will notice it is on a peninsula with water to the East, South, and West. it has four highways that connect to the peninsula, but only three do anything and on is two lanes and then you have to travel through like 20 stoplights just to get to the stadium.</p><p> </p><p> If they put it in Hillsborough county (the fairgrounds area, where if you look at that on a map is in the Tampa area where U.S 301, I-75 and I-4 all run into each other) it would be in a much bigger area covered by surrouned by land on all four times. Stats have come out that a stadium there would be with in 20 minutes of over 1 million people.</p><p> </p><p> Lol, but once again the thought of losing a team doesn't concern anyone. It's more of a battle between St. Pete and Tampa.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHK1978 Posted June 23, 2010 Author Share Posted June 23, 2010 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="GatorBait19" data-cite="GatorBait19" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="26724" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Man, Tampa and St. Pete has become a hostile battle zone.<p> </p><p> </p><p> Stu Sternberg (Rays' owner) came out the other day and said the Rays need a new stadium or it could come to a point where the team might have to move.</p><p> </p><p> People from St. Pete say the Trop is good enough to hold a baseball team and in a great location right off an interstate.</p><p> </p><p> Here is my view though.</p><p> </p><p> 1) To anyone who has been to the Trop the seats are small, views suck, and catwalk causes dumb problems.</p><p> </p><p> 2) How is it in a key area just because it's off an interstate?</p><p> </p><p> If you google Tropicana Field and look at it on a map you will notice it is on a peninsula with water to the East, South, and West. it has four highways that connect to the peninsula, but only three do anything and on is two lanes and then you have to travel through like 20 stoplights just to get to the stadium.</p><p> </p><p> If they put it in Hillsborough county (the fairgrounds area, where if you look at that on a map is in the Tampa area where U.S 301, I-75 and I-4 all run into each other) it would be in a much bigger area covered by surrouned by land on all four times. Stats have come out that a stadium there would be with in 20 minutes of over 1 million people.</p><p> </p><p> Lol, but once again the thought of losing a team doesn't concern anyone. It's more of a battle between St. Pete and Tampa.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I have never been there but I know someone who has and he said that the stadium is one of the worst stadiums in the majors. I thought that both the Marlins and the Devil Rays (I refuse to call them the Rays, they were not named after Ray Charles.<img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />) had to stay in Florida for twenty years. And if not they had to pay a hefty fine if they moved out of state. </p><p> </p><p> I am not sure if it applies to them staying in the state or the same metro area.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GatorBait19 Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BHK1978" data-cite="BHK1978" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="26724" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I have never been there but I know someone who has and he said that the stadium is one of the worst stadiums in the majors. I thought that both the Marlins and the Devil Rays (I refuse to call them the Rays, they were not named after Ray Charles.<img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />) had to stay in Florida for twenty years. And if not they had to pay a hefty fine if they moved out of state. <p> </p><p> I am not sure if it applies to them staying in the state or the same metro area.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> They only have to stay because of leases signed with the stadium. Marlins were going to move, but Miami budged and gave the Marlins a new stadium. Marlins also sharded a stadium and have won 2 world series, but still have had troubles (in years they didn't destroy the team) getting people to the stadium.</p><p> </p><p> CQ would know better, but I believe Sun Life stadium is in a heavy populated area.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Tampa has made it to one Series, have only had two winning seasons, but the Stadium is 20 years old. The Stadium was also considered ahead of it time when built. Then five years later people claim that the stadium is a part of a dieing of doomed stadium (like the pun <img alt=";)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/wink.png.686f06e511ee1fbf6bdc7d82f6831e53.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> )</p><p> </p><p> If the stayed in St. Pete that might not have to pay or their out clause would be greatly reduced. Also in times like they are, St. Pete might make them pay full and help with the new stadium</p><p> </p><p> The Rays would have to pay no matter where they move, Tampa, Las Vegas, New York etc. (not saying it's going to New York, just naming off places)</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHK1978 Posted June 23, 2010 Author Share Posted June 23, 2010 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="GatorBait19" data-cite="GatorBait19" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="26724" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>They only have to stay because of leases signed with the stadium. Marlins were going to move, but Miami budged and gave the Marlins a new stadium. Marlins also sharded a stadium and have won 2 world series, but still have had troubles (in years they didn't destroy the team) getting people to the stadium.<p> </p><p> CQ would know better, but I believe Sun Life stadium is in a heavy populated area.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Tampa has made it to one Series, have only had two winning seasons, but the Stadium is 20 years old. The Stadium was also considered ahead of it time when built. Then five years later people claim that the stadium is a part of a dieing of doomed stadium (like the pun <img alt=";)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/wink.png.686f06e511ee1fbf6bdc7d82f6831e53.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> )</p><p> </p><p> If the stayed in St. Pete that might not have to pay or their out clause would be greatly reduced. Also in times like they are, St. Pete might make them pay full and help with the new stadium</p><p> </p><p> The Rays would have to pay no matter where they move, Tampa, Las Vegas, New York etc. (not saying it's going to New York, just naming off places)</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Having never been to that part of your state what is the difference between Tampa, Tampa Bay, and St. Pete? I know St. Pete and Tampa are two different citites but how close are they to each other? Is it like St. Paul and Minneapolis?</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GatorBait19 Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BHK1978" data-cite="BHK1978" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="26724" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Having never been to that part of your state what is the difference between Tampa, Tampa Bay, and St. Pete? I know St. Pete and Tampa are two different citites but how close are they to each other? Is it like St. Paul and Minneapolis?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> LMAO seriously BHK it's just stupid how close they are together. St. Pete and Tampa are like 23 miles or 30 minutes. It is about the dumbest arguement in the world.</p><p> </p><p> The difference between the three is easy in it's own right. Tamp is a city as is St. Pete, Tampa Bay is the Bay and the Tampa bay area is a (similar to ATL) a 4 county area Hernando, Hillsborough, Pasco, and Pinellas.</p><p> </p><p> Once again though, this comes down to two bickering cities (Tampa and St. Pete)</p><p> </p><p> Tampa has always outshined St. Pete even with Tampa trying to get St. Pete involved. St. Pete has never seen it as the Tampa <strong>Bay</strong> Bucs, Tampa <strong>Bay</strong> Lightning, or Tampa <strong>Bay</strong> Rays. They just see Tampa.</p><p> </p><p> When Tampa got the Bucs and Rowdies (soccer), St. Pete set out to get a pro team of their own. It took them forever to do it because they were only pitching what St. Pete brought to the area, where Tampa always pitched what the Bay area brings.</p><p> </p><p> With the new high speed rail Tampa and Orlando are getting, it was going to involve St. Pete, but a couple things stopped it from going to St. Pete. First St. Pete didn't want to fund any of it, second St. Pete didn't understand why there would be a stop in Tampa. People from Tampa could drive to Lakeland or St. Pete and just ride from there.</p><p> </p><p> St. Pete and Tampa are pretty much like two brothers fighting for mom's attention. Tampa has tried to bring them in and help them out, but St. Pete just wants to prove everyone wrong.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remianen Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 I don't see the issue. Why's St. Pete being demonized because they want their own identity as a city? Speaking from a travel perspective (business travel in particular), people don't consider St. Pete a city in and of itself. It's perceived as a suburb of Tampa. They want to remove that perception and it's not an easy thing to do. While sometimes it's good to be associated with a particular city (just look at how many cities in New Jersey and Connecticut promote themselves as 'close to New York City'), there are limits to that when it comes to both representation, reputation, and perception. All that said, St. Pete doesn't have what it takes to be a freestanding sports city of its own. They don't have the infrastructure (and they can't easily create it), they're too close to a city that does have the infrastructure, and the perception is working against them. Yes, it's stupid what they're doing but every journey begins with the first step. They're trying to flex their muscles (that they don't really have) and get some respect, in some small way. The best thing that they could do now is chill, leech off Tampa's amenities and infrastructure while they work behind the scenes to get a franchise of some kind. There's one major sports league in America that does not have a franchise in that area. Two are close, but none are there. Remember what Indianapolis did to get the Colts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GatorBait19 Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Remianen" data-cite="Remianen" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="26724" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I don't see the issue. Why's St. Pete being demonized because they want their own identity as a city? Speaking from a travel perspective (business travel in particular), people don't consider St. Pete a city in and of itself. It's perceived as a suburb of Tampa. They want to remove that perception and it's not an easy thing to do. While sometimes it's good to be associated with a particular city (just look at how many cities in New Jersey and Connecticut promote themselves as 'close to New York City'), there are limits to that when it comes to both representation, reputation, and perception.<p> </p><p> All that said, St. Pete doesn't have what it takes to be a freestanding sports city of its own. They don't have the infrastructure (and they can't easily create it), they're too close to a city that does have the infrastructure, and the perception is working against them. Yes, it's stupid what they're doing but every journey begins with the first step. They're trying to flex their muscles (that they don't really have) and get some respect, in some small way. The best thing that they could do now is chill, leech off Tampa's amenities and infrastructure while they work behind the scenes to get a franchise of some kind. There's one major sports league in America that does not have a franchise in that area. Two are close, but none are <em><strong>there</strong></em>. Remember what Indianapolis did to get the Colts? <img alt=";)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/wink.png.686f06e511ee1fbf6bdc7d82f6831e53.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm guessing that sports league is basketball?</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Also I don't have a problem with it, as I said before I think it's dumb for them to fight over this. I agree with the unfrastructure and that St. Pete really does have one. St. Pete is more known (along with Clearwater) for their beaches.</p><p> </p><p> Tampa just got the 2012 Republican National Convention, in Tampa's pitch they included the great fishing in Tampa Bay and the Gulf. As well as the beautiful beaches of St. Pete and Clearwater.</p><p> </p><p> I remember growing up, my mom always told me that one day it won't be just Tampa that is known, but instead it will be the Tampa Bay area. She has saw the Bay area being much like the greater Atlanta area. One big city (Atlanta and Tampa) surrounded by other cities/towns.</p><p> </p><p> My biggest thing is that it is dumb for both cities to fight over a baseball team. If something isn't figured out soon the team could leave and the fact that these two cities always battling doesn't help the area.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CQI13 Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 Where would the Rays go? Same thing I asked about the Marlins when they threatened to leave. What city could conceivably right now afford a team it doesn't already have? San Antonio? Las Vegas? Portland? If these owners want a stadium so bad, let them pay for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remianen Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="GatorBait19" data-cite="GatorBait19" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="26724" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm guessing that sports league is basketball?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> DING DING DING!</p><p> </p><p> There are a couple NBA franchises who could be enticed to move if the deal was right. I mean, most recently, a team moved from Seattle (a major city) to freakin' Oklahoma City (not a major city and probably best known for a federal building being bombed). St. Pete is a bigger city/area than OKC so if OKC got a team, St. Pete could get one.</p><p> </p><p> Of course that wouldn't happen because Tampa's the sexier option so the team would name itself 'Tampa' or 'Tampa Bay'. But St. Pete would reap the benefits if the arena's in the city limits!</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CQI13 Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 But didn't OKC sell out the arena/support the Hornets? It's not like it was picked out of the blue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHK1978 Posted June 24, 2010 Author Share Posted June 24, 2010 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="CQI13" data-cite="CQI13" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="26724" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Where would the Rays go? Same thing I asked about the Marlins when they threatened to leave. What city could conceivably right now afford a team it doesn't already have? San Antonio? Las Vegas? Portland? If these owners want a stadium so bad, let them pay for it.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I could see Charlotte, Las Vegas (I think the NBA will put a team there before an other major league sports teams do), Portland, Memphis, Nashville as being possible places. Heck even Orlando could be a reasonable place for them to move to because of the share amount of tourism dollars that they do, I think they could probably support a major league team.</p><p> </p><p> San Antonio I am not all that sure of. I guess it could happen but San Antonio is not all that big compared to other cities. In Texas I could see Austin getting a team maybe.</p><p> </p><p> I also think a dark horse could be Vancouver.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GatorBait19 Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 <p>I could be wrong on this, but I don't think Las Vegas would be a place for a major sports team. The reason for my thinking on this is for a team to move there the league would require that Vegas not be allowed to gamble on the league. When the Las Vegas Mercury (WNBA) moved from Orlando to Las Vegas, the League approved the move with the agreement that no WNBA game be betted on.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Also Remi I agree that St. Pete is a sexier city than OKC but now with the whole debacle that the St. Pete head people have had with the Rays, I don't think many owners would want to deal with that in the future. The Rays have won/winning for three years now and attendance hasn't grow but a couple thousand per game. The biggest reason I think this is, is simple there isn't really a population to the West of St. Pete like there is in Tampa.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHK1978 Posted June 24, 2010 Author Share Posted June 24, 2010 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="GatorBait19" data-cite="GatorBait19" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="26724" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I could be wrong on this, but I don't think Las Vegas would be a place for a major sports team. The reason for my thinking on this is for a team to move there the league would require that Vegas not be allowed to gamble on the league. When the Las Vegas Mercury (WNBA) moved from Orlando to Las Vegas, the League approved the move with the agreement that no WNBA game be betted on.<p> </p><p> </p><p> Also Remi I agree that St. Pete is a sexier city than OKC but now with the whole debacle that the St. Pete head people have had with the Rays, I don't think many owners would want to deal with that in the future. The Rays have won/winning for three years now and attendance hasn't grow but a couple thousand per game. The biggest reason I think this is, is simple there isn't really a population to the West of St. Pete like there is in Tampa.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yes you are right about the Vegas thing. However, eventually I think that one league will find their way around it. Like I said I think the NBA (or prehaps the NHL) will be the first to venture into Vegas because they need less of a fanbase to support their teams. </p><p> </p><p> I highly doubt that the NFL will ever put a team there, but never say never. As far as MLB goes, I think in time it could be very possible that a team might end up there. After all the AAA team the Las Vegas 51s play in North Las Vegas. So I do not believe that it isn't that much of a stretch to think that MLB would not want to get involved in such a lucrative market.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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