Blackman Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 And I've brought this up before, but I'd like everyone's opinion on the matter: how do you guys respond to this (still relatively new) policy of content patches/expansions? Adam constantly keeps his games updated with patches and this is great. Mostly they contain fixes, but occasionally there's new content included. In this case it's not worth waiting several months until the patches are available, but several games do. CKII, for instance, just keeps churning out content. Obviously great that it happens, but sometimes I'd rather want them just combining the content into a 'new' game and sell it as some sort of CKII or ultimate edition. Fans look down on that, but this constant patching leads to some fans just taking a passive attitude and deciding to wait out for the 'final' version before playing. Combined with the trend of "constant sales" this will eventually lead to people no longer buying a game full-price unless they are desperate to play. Desperation should be tempered as good games become available for a couple of $'s while they wait for the 'new' ones to be finished and cheaper. The worst is Skyrim user mods getting updated so you'd have to restart a new game. I used to spend weeks restarting until I actually took a look at some of the changelogs and found that it's not worth starting over for. Now I'm almost sick of the game and have yet to see about 50% of the total content (incl mods). Today Age of Wonders III - which I just started playing this week - announces an expansion. Once again I'm left waiting for it, essentially quitting the game because you know the experience will be better in the long run. CKII has another expansion on the way. It's kinda the same thing when I was 'updating' the custom renders for WMMA. You want to get the new one out asap so people can use it but it's sometimes better to wait and release it as a pack. This is not the same as there's no gameplay-change involved, but it's the same principle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclops Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 In reply to Blackman, specifically regarding Crusader Kings II, Don't get me wrong, I love this game. This and Adam's games are always a fixture for me. I do feel sometimes though that Paradox truly "nickel & dimes" you in a way. Some of the expansions (Raja's of India, Charlemagne ect.) Add quite a bit of new content and paying what they sell them for seems fair. While other ones (Way of Life, Republics) I feel that while they have added content to the game, could of honestly been distributed for free as a big patch. The other things are mostly trivial, like the songs and pic packs, which I also feel could be updated into the game without having to pay a fee. Ultimately while I love the game, and will probably still buy every piece of content that comes out for it, I feel like the $200+ dollars I've spent on the upgrades could of been included to me in something like a "Season Pass" deal, where you pay $70-$120 from the get go and are promised all future upgrades to the game. I just don't feel like this new content could all be put into a new "Crusader Kings III" package, because CK2 still has so much life left in it, and while sometimes begrudgingly, I'll still support all of the DLC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celuwyn Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Paradox is interested in making a "Crusader King : Games of Thrones" games, because of the mod. It would be nice. VERY nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickymex Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Paradox is interested in making a "Crusader King : Games of Thrones" games, because of the mod. It would be nice. VERY nice. The developer mentioned that Game of Thrones is probably the only property that they would make a game out of. However there's no plan to actually do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackman Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 And the mod is actually pretty advanced already. Even a year ago it was great fun. Now it's amazing. And I meant to say CKII.5 rather than III. Must've slipped off the post. In the case of Way of Life, I actually felt the patch that went with it had more relevant content for me. So in a way, I just decided to pay them for bringing out a patch. For what it was, WoL was 'way' too expensive (and not expAnsive, if that is a word). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarity Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Well in usual city builder fashion, the residents keep burning their houses down http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/adambn/2015-03-12_00002.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celuwyn Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 The developer mentioned that Game of Thrones is probably the only property that they would make a game out of. However there's no plan to actually do it. Yeah that was i was saying "Interested". HBO has said that they expect Paradox to begin negociation if they want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moon_lit_tears Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 So I have a few questions about this Cities game. I had Simcity and I quit playing because I got bored. Does htis game have resolution changes? Also SimCity had the modes for colorblind...Does this exist in Cities? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moon_lit_tears Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Sooooooo TEW on steam...LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickymex Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Sooooooo TEW on steam...LOL I guess 2010 is easier than 2013 due to lack of recent fortunes and such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Wait, what? Why is TEW 2010 being released on Steam? What's happening? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Wait, what? Why is TEW 2010 being released on Steam? What's happening? I have no idea, but WMMA3 is on there too. I didn't even see an announcement by GDS anywhere that it was happening either. Viva Media is listed as the publisher on Steam though. Not sure if they are the same publisher that GDS uses through eLicense, but I've never heard of them. Very strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Roguey Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Aye, strange indeed. Especially since nothing has been said about it from GDS. I assume an announcement will be forthcoming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moon_lit_tears Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Aye, strange indeed. Especially since nothing has been said about it from GDS. I assume an announcement will be forthcoming. It was pointed out to me by my BF who is a member here too, and I was shocked it's an older version, I mean if it's just a feeler then why not put 13 out or something like that. It's indeed strange as when I put that idea to Adam a few years ago he said he'd never do it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Roguey Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 It was pointed out to me by my BF who is a member here too, and I was shocked it's an older version, I mean if it's just a feeler then why not put 13 out or something like that. It's indeed strange as when I put that idea to Adam a few years ago he said he'd never do it.... At the time of questioning, wasn't it an issue with the language used? If so, have Steam maybe changed up how it works? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moon_lit_tears Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 At the time of questioning, wasn't it an issue with the language used? If so, have Steam maybe changed up how it works? He basically said that it wouldn't be profitable. or something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarity Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Maybe its to test the waters. Put an old version on at a reduced price and see how it does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek DiBenedetto Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 My game has been moderately profitable (Streets of Chaos on Steam for the past month+ or so), and TEW would have even more of a fanbase, so I don't think that's true really. Publisher is "Viva Media" so i'm not sure what's up honestly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Adam posted this in a thread about it in the GDS General Discussion. Figured I'd post it here just in case anyone misses it. There will be an article on the site tomorrow explaining everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Lyrium Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Not sure if anyone here is an eSports fan, but holy hell that CS:GO ESL Grand Final was epic. I'm usually more of a Starcraft fan, but I had some spare time as the rugby match I was going to watch was absolutely dire, so tuned in for the CS:GO final (I haven't played CS since 1.6...). Not to give too much away, but it featured an epic babyface superhero comeback which was cut short right at the end. A great watch for a neutral. Also, anyone here played Besiege? It's loads of fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celuwyn Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Not sure if anyone here is an eSports fan, but holy hell that CS:GO ESL Grand Final was epic. I'm usually more of a Starcraft fan, but I had some spare time as the rugby match I was going to watch was absolutely dire, so tuned in for the CS:GO final (I haven't played CS since 1.6...). Not to give too much away, but it featured an epic babyface superhero comeback which was cut short right at the end. A great watch for a neutral. Also, anyone here played Besiege? It's loads of fun. That was good. Flusha has not cheated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarity Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 My game has been moderately profitable (Streets of Chaos on Steam for the past month+ or so), and TEW would have even more of a fanbase, so I don't think that's true really. Publisher is "Viva Media" so i'm not sure what's up honestly. I googled Viva Media and a little worried. Their catalogue is full of those hidden picture games that you find in discounts stores for the price that the store is named after Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukess11 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Is anyone else REALLY hyped for Hardline? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celuwyn Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 I googled Viva Media and a little worried. Their catalogue is full of those hidden picture games that you find in discounts stores for the price that the store is named after Recent releases include S.T.A.L.K.E.R Call of Pripyat, Grand Ages Rome, the wildly popular Crazy Machines series, the Learn to Play Chess series based on the world's #1 chess software engine, the renowned car racing simulation games RACE, GTR Evolution, RACE ON and a variety of casual games including North American best sellers, Farm Frenzy, Treasure Masters, Inc. and the Treasures of Mystery Island. Not Bad. Maybe Grey Dog software has a contract with them to "test the water" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawn Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Is anyone else REALLY hyped for Hardline? Not me, but I am for Mortal Kombat X. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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