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This board is full of creative people, who have limitless skill with diaries and characters and whats not and that's almost the exact reason I'm here.

 

On and off I've been training to be a wrestler for about a year now, can see myself debuting before the end of the year, or at least January, once I polish up a bit more, get some gear made and get into a bit better condition.

 

Character is where I have a problem. There is little money in the UK scene these days, bar wage for shows you really are out for yourself to make yourself marketable, sell merch and make money. However I'm struggling to really think up anything that could set me apart from anyone else, to make myself noticed.

 

I do a lot of video/movie work (doing Film at college atm and my friend plans to be a film maker) so its like I have the desire to do promos and get my name out there, but I just haven't got a clue about what to do for myself, anyone else I could probably make a reasonable gimmick but for me it just struggles to resonate through my brain.

 

So that's why I've came to you wonderful people :p I'm looking for help in creating a character/gimmick/marketable persona that I can use around the UK scene by the time I debut that will help me stand out and make myself some money (as much as I make the claim I learnt as a hobby, some extra money would be great).

 

Just some information on myself

 

I'm currently 5 foot 9 and 160lbs, I've gone up 20lbs in under 8 months and hope to reach about 200 (just over 14 stone) by the time I hit the age of 20 (currently 18)

 

I intend to keep my real name (Sean Thomas Jolly) as I feel with such a distinctive last name as Jolly it would be a shame to not keep it.

 

I have a large back tattoo of two angel wings and a stone cross. Tattoos are something I love and I can eventually see me getting a chest one as well as some arms and possibly both hands. Generally my hair could be anything eventually, I like to experiment between Mohawks, shaven, hell even looked like a British comedian called Keith Lemon for a while.

 

I'm from Hereford, West Midlands.

 

Generally after all the work I've seen make characters like Edd Stone, Johnny Bloodstone, Christian Faith, Big Smack Scott, Sam Strong stand out I was hoping for some help to make myself stand out.

 

Really I'm just looking for a decent gimmick, nickname, hell even a slogan I could use for T Shirt designs would be great. Something that could resonate to a Tag Team as well may be beneficial,

 

But yeah any help would be great for me, as I'm really at a loss and this is begining to frustrate me haha

 

Cheers

 

Sean

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<p>Jolly the Clown? Lots of mileage to be had there - anything from Joker to Pennywise to 'good' clown.</p><p> </p><p>

You could be Jolly like Big Show is Tiny - an aggressive, thuggish, never satisfied brute. </p><p> </p><p>

How about Martin Jolly, the happy Dutchman?</p><p> </p><p>

Being in the UK, you could invest in some football shirts and be a supporter/hooligan for whoever the local team/rival is <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p>

One thing to bear in mind, of course, is that as the debuting young guy you're not likely to get a significant push out of the gate, so take your time to hone your character(s). Nothing says you have to knock it out of the park first night - go look at the photo of Mick Foley on the night of his first match to see how different Cactus Jack was from when he made it big five years down the line.</p>

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<p>haha, as much as I'd love my own bull, don't know how successful it would be to keep a bull in a semi detached house <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p>

The football hooligan thing at the moment is kinda a fun idea, mainly as I look like someone outa This Is England right now.</p><p> </p><p>

And god as much as I want to be a clown, I think that ideas had more mileage than a very old car, think I'll leave that buried</p><p> </p><p>

But yeah I figure straight away I won't hit it out the park, just feel like I should have a plan in place for when I obviously do <img alt=";)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/wink.png.686f06e511ee1fbf6bdc7d82f6831e53.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> haha</p>

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<p>Okay, so a not particularly large tattooed young English guy named Jolly. </p><p> </p><p>

First thing I thought of with the name Jolly and your tattoos was for the Jolly name to be ironic and for you to be a miserable a-hole. Either just a mopey emo type, an annoying whiner, something like that.</p><p> </p><p>

Also being Australian jolly jumbuck came into my mind but I hardly see how that is helpful. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p>

Also being a fellow film person, I was thinking if maybe you could incorporate that into your character. "The Director of Violence, The Producer of Mayhem" Talk film theory, tell people they will never work in Hollywood again, Invite women in the crowd to your casting couch, act like your typical indy film douchebag, make Academy Award acceptance speeches instead of promos, carry around a fake awards trophy or use a clapper board as your foreign object of choice. Find some old worn out 16mm film and use it to choke guys out. I don't know, I am just throwing a bunch of random ideas at you for you to think about as this is the creative process!</p><p> </p><p>

I'll give it some more thought though.</p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Nobby_McDonald" data-cite="Nobby_McDonald" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="31269" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Hereford you say... remember that British Bulldog used to have a bulldog accompany him to the ring? You should get yourself a bull.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That might get a bit messy and expensive. But if I may take you down a side road, there might be something here. He could be this paradoxically super serious type. Sort of play the British stereotype and talk about "being here to take the bull by the horns." Maybe flash could equal bull excrement in his character's mind. Or perhaps a hooligan there to "beat the bull out of you". Or do you Brits use "bull" that way like we Yanks do?</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BurningHamster" data-cite="BurningHamster" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="31269" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> Also being a fellow film person, I was thinking if maybe you could incorporate that into your character. "The Director of Violence, The Producer of Mayhem" Talk film theory, tell people they will never work in Hollywood again, Invite women in the crowd to your casting couch, act like your typical indy film douchebag, make Academy Award acceptance speeches instead of promos, carry around a fake awards trophy or use a clapper board as your foreign object of choice. Find some old worn out 16mm film and use it to choke guys out. I don't know, I am just throwing a bunch of random ideas at you for you to think about as this is the creative process!</p><p> </p><p> I'll give it some more thought though.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That sounds awesome <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>
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<p>I dunno man but if your finishing move isn't called 'Getting Your Jollies Off" then you're missing a gold strike.</p><p> </p><p>

How about "The Mad" Martin Jolly? Play a loose cannon that's always somewhat happy-go-lucky. Play it well.</p><p> </p><p>

I wouldn't take the "Mad Man" approach though, unless you want to be the world's next Necro Butcher... lol</p><p> </p><p>

And another edit: Seriously... "Getting Your Jollies Off".. that's a Bad-A finishing move name.. I want commission for it if you use it. I'm thinking like an old school Honky Tonk Man style swinging neckbreaker with maybe some glitz to it to fit the Modern era of wrestling. Just my two cents over a morning cigarette.</p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BurningHamster" data-cite="BurningHamster" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="31269" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Okay, so a not particularly large tattooed young English guy named Jolly. <p> </p><p> First thing I thought of with the name Jolly and your tattoos was for the Jolly name to be ironic and for you to be a miserable a-hole. Either just a mopey emo type, an annoying whiner, something like that.</p><p> </p><p> Also being a fellow film person, I was thinking if maybe you could incorporate that into your character. "The Director of Violence, The Producer of Mayhem" Talk film theory, tell people they will never work in Hollywood again, Invite women in the crowd to your casting couch, act like your typical indy film douchebag, make Academy Award acceptance speeches instead of promos, carry around a fake awards trophy or use a clapper board as your foreign object of choice. Find some old worn out 16mm film and use it to choke guys out. I don't know, I am just throwing a bunch of random ideas at you for you to think about as this is the creative process!</p><p> </p><p> I'll give it some more thought though.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> For a name Jolly, I am absolutely a miserable a-hole at the best of times haha, </p><p> </p><p> But that second idea, just, just wow. That honestly sounds amazing, and something I could totally work with.</p><p> </p><p> Thanks man, that's something to take ahead with me I think and maybe work on.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="RingofHonorGuard" data-cite="RingofHonorGuard" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="31269" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I dunno man but if your finishing move isn't called 'Getting Your Jollies Off" then you're missing a gold strike.<p> </p><p> How about "The Mad" Martin Jolly? Play a loose cannon that's always somewhat happy-go-lucky. Play it well.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> Haha, I feel I should have been called Martin now with all these Martin suggestions, but that idea could work also, into the think tank it goes <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Getting your jollies off must be done I think haha</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="cappyboy" data-cite="cappyboy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="31269" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>That might get a bit messy and expensive. But if I may take you down a side road, there might be something here. He could be this paradoxically super serious type. Sort of play the British stereotype and talk about "being here to take the bull by the horns." Maybe flash could equal bull excrement in his character's mind. Or perhaps a hooligan there to "beat the bull out of you". Or do you Brits use "bull" that way like we Yanks do?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Only just seen this post and again this is something that could work quite well.</p><p> </p><p> Beating the bull out of you would also work for family friendly audiences rather than saying 'beating the s*** out of you' so added to the think tank <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="SWF Fan" data-cite="SWF Fan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="31269" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>For a name Jolly, I am absolutely a miserable a-hole at the best of times haha, <p> </p><p> But that second idea, just, just wow. That honestly sounds amazing, and something I could totally work with.</p><p> </p><p> Thanks man, that's something to take ahead with me I think and maybe work on.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Okay, couple more things with that .... you can insist the match doesn't start when the bell rings, but when you call action ... stall, wait until your opponent is distracted by the chicanery then jump him while calling action.</p><p> </p><p> When you lose a match, throw a tantrum, pull out rougly 100 pages of paper and say that this wasn't in the script.</p><p> </p><p> If you ever botch a move, either insist that it can be fixed in post or call take 2.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BurningHamster" data-cite="BurningHamster" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="31269" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Okay, couple more things with that .... you can insist the match doesn't start when the bell rings, but when you call action ... stall, wait until your opponent is distracted by the chicanery then jump him while calling action.<p> </p><p> When you lose a match, throw a tantrum, pull out rougly 100 pages of paper and say that this wasn't in the script.</p><p> </p><p> If you ever botch a move, either insist that it can be fixed in post or call take 2.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Honestly, one day, I can see me dedicating my career to a Hamster, not insane in the slightest <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="DJ B-Don" data-cite="DJ B-Don" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="31269" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Why hasn't Adam closed this topic? He closes everything else. This has Nothing to do with TEW.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> If anything it would be moved, and it hasn't been up long so if he wanted to move it he probably hasn't seen it yet.</p><p> </p><p> That said nobody minds and it is a question to the writers of TEW diaries who make characters so it is kinda TEW related.</p>
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<p>fair enough, figured as soon as I posted it I'd probably left it in the wrong place.</p><p> </p><p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BurningHamster" data-cite="BurningHamster" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="31269" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Also being a fellow film person, I was thinking if maybe you could incorporate that into your character. "The Director of Violence, The Producer of Mayhem" Talk film theory, tell people they will never work in Hollywood again, Invite women in the crowd to your casting couch, act like your typical indy film douchebag, make Academy Award acceptance speeches instead of promos, carry around a fake awards trophy or use a clapper board as your foreign object of choice. Find some old worn out 16mm film and use it to choke guys out. I don't know, I am just throwing a bunch of random ideas at you for you to think about as this is the creative process!<p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I have to agree with Brother 20Legend. This is great. I especially like the part of choking the opponent with old 16mm film. That film could be to Brother Jolly like a fork in Abdullah The Butcher's hands. Or the pencil The Shiek of Araby used to use.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="cappyboy" data-cite="cappyboy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="31269" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I have to agree with Brother 20Legend. This is great. I especially like the part of choking the opponent with old 16mm film. That film could be to Brother Jolly like a fork in Abdullah The Butcher's hands. Or the pencil The Shiek of Araby used to use.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> So many ideas right now, could go so well <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Gear being designed atm as I'm bored and buzzing over this <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>
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<p>Hey Dude, i'm a current 8 month trainee in wrestling also in england & also referee for my local federation</p><p>

I have spoken personally to british regulars: Polly Anna, Super Janey B & also Doug Williams and they have given great advice.</p><p> </p><p>

1) Do a promo or even promos and record it on a video camera. Upload it on youtube with every wrestling tag you can think of. Update your youtube channel with any matches with you in as possible</p><p>

2) Make a website doesn't have to be extremely professional: just a cv of training and also match list. and a link to your youtube channel</p><p>

3) Get a list of all UK promotions and get a video of you wrestling and also your best promo and send the link to all the promotions on the list, the list below is accurate: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional_wrestling_promotions_in_the_United_Kingdom" rel="external nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional_wrestling_promotions_in_the_United_Kingdom</a> </p><p>

4) Try to attend as much indy shows as possible and give them your name and a website or possibly a business card.</p><p> </p><p>

Good Luck Dude, also where abouts do you live?</p>

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<p>Down in Hereford, training since August last year, currently on a bit of a break while I find a way of getting to Swindon to train (best place for me) but in the meantime wanna work on character, promos and gear design to keep me occupied (As well as gym work)</p><p> </p><p>

But yeah still a good 6 months (previous training was kinda standard) until I can fully compete in a ring I think, but hoping to debut just after my 19th if I can.</p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="FINisher" data-cite="FINisher" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="31269" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> <div class="ipsEmbeddedVideo"><div><iframe width="200" height="150" src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/nLJ8ILIE780?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="" title="Monty Python ~ Marching up and down the square (Michael Palin)"></iframe></div></div><p> </p><p> Sergeant Jolly.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Haha awesome</p>
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<p>Giant Jolly </p><p> </p><p>

You act like you're bigger then you, talk like you're tougher then you are, but you're a coward who cheats to win and runs from any wrestler bigger then you, even refusing to be at ringside when someone bigger then you is around, or not wanting to be in the lockerroom with those "unnatural freaks"</p>

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