SWF In 2013

[Devilb0y]

Thanks for all the help you guys have been giving a noob like me. I appreciate it. Now, another question. What are the storylines you guys add into the fray? I try to take Vengeance out of the World title storyline and add in Rich Money, and then give Vengeance a feud with someone like Captain Atomic or, heck even the whole Hero Squad. As for Marat Khoklov, it's not really a storyline per say, it's more of just a match where Khoklov squashes random people every month at the PPV's. I usually always try to write Enforcer Roberts into Eric Eisen's feud with Angry Gilmore someway, always in a supporting role though. I usually do a tag team title storyline where I have The All-Americans, The Biggins', The Bumfhole's, and The Platinum Blondes are all fighting for the titles. I'm a straight up noob at all of this, any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

I would say you've got the right idea but it sounds like you're trying to push a lot of people at once.

 

Generally speaking the best way I find to approach SWF is to build 3 or 4 storylines around the really over guys in your Main Event (as overness is probably the most important value in a Sports Entertainment fed like SWF) and then set aside a couple of less popular workers as your projects who you can try to build by including them in big angles and matches, as well as perhaps giving them their own storyline.

 

Jack Bruce is the obvious contender for your main guy as at 94 Overness he's the biggest star in America. However you've also got Rich Money, Remo and Vengeance hovering around the mid 80s which is still very popular and all of them have the skills to rapidly gain popularity if you wanted to make them your top star.

 

Then just beneath them you've got Christian Faith and Steve Frehley who are pretty popular at around 80 overness, but not really enough to justify a Main Event at a PPV. Some people don't like Frehley as he doesn't really excel in any area but he's very young and can grow into a solid Main Event talent provided you book him to his strengths (i.e. In matches with very talented wrestlers and angles with very talented talkers). Whereas Christian Faith is a legend and can pull an amazing match out of just about anyone with his Performance stats but unfortunately at his age he's going to get hit badly by time decline (which has a negative effect on EVERY match he's in) and every loss is going to have a big impact on his overness and be very hard to recover from. Realistically Faith probably has one high-profile loss left in him at this stage before he's done as a legit Main Event player.

 

So these are the guys who should be the focus of your shows. You can get away with having a couple of 'Projects': UMCs you want to move into the Main Event (Like Rogue, Valiant and Angry Gilmore) or Midcarders than you want to move up the card but any more than two and you'll find yourself running out of TV time and producing sub-par storylines. With that said, always remember that this game is about pushing who you like. Personally I love Rogue and always look to give him a World Title run even though on paper he's not as good as the other guys in the Main Event. So if you find someone you like (and protip: check the re-render threads in the TEW2013 Mod forum, some of the work in there will make you fall in love with new workers) don't be afraid to push them hard!

[Irish Wolf]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="fusionfx!" data-cite="fusionfx!" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34914" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Thanks for all the help you guys have been giving a noob like me. I appreciate it. Now, another question. What are the storylines you guys add into the fray? I try to take Vengeance out of the World title storyline and add in Rich Money, and then give Vengeance a feud with someone like Captain Atomic or, heck even the whole Hero Squad. As for Marat Khoklov, it's not really a storyline per say, it's more of just a match where Khoklov squashes random people every month at the PPV's. I usually always try to write Enforcer Roberts into Eric Eisen's feud with Angry Gilmore someway, always in a supporting role though. I usually do a tag team title storyline where I have The All-Americans, The Biggins', The Bumfhole's, and The Platinum Blondes are all fighting for the titles. I'm a straight up noob at all of this, any help would be greatly appreciated.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I usually leave all the basic stories they seem right and they have just started in 2013 (Again haven't checked 2014 yet). But I add three more:</p><p> </p><p> 1) Rich Money w/Marat Khoklov vs Lobster Warrior</p><p> </p><p> Lobster Warrior fears that Rich Money is corrupting SWF from within. He seems to have the ear of the men upstairs but Lobby is intent on finding out what he has that gives him hold over them and get SWF back to "normal". Rich Money sees Warrior as little more than a nuisance and tries to dig up dirt on him to get him off his back but can find none. In their first match at the Jan PPV Money won over Lobby by interference from Marat Khoklov who is the hired muscle Money had been alluding to. Their match rated an 86 and even in loss Warrior gained popularity and moved into the Main Event. I ran this feud for awhile, consistently the best matches.</p><p> </p><p> 2) The All-Americans vs Enforcer Roberts and Squeeky McClean</p><p> </p><p> Although like you both were in decline for me it wasn't horrible decline and American Machine and Des Davids could still use a little polishing and what better way than to feud with two talented vets. I ran the story as Roberts and McClean saying that all these young kids don't know what it means to be a wrestler let alone a champion and they were going to bring the titles back to some one more worthy, themselves.</p><p> </p><p> 3) The Sinners</p><p> </p><p> This is my favorite story of all. These guys never wrestle its all just vignettes for months. First on the A show then on the A and B show. Every week its them doing something dastardly Wrath (Primus Allen) and Greet beating up a girls boyfriend so Lust (Joe sexy) can mack on her. Wrath and Lust watching Greed play a poker game and helping him cheat. The by the third one I had Evy (Krissy Angelle) and I did a bar room scene with a brawl and Joe sexy sitting talking to women and greed hustling pool. Each vignette was rated Lust and Greed on Entertainment, Envy on Sex Appeal and Wrath on Menace. They would usually rate out at just over Lust's overness so he would never lose any but all the others would make gains (small gains because you gain less on TV then you do on PPVs) but gians in both skill, overness and momentum. After awhile you start having them interact with other workers. The try and convince Eisen that he should give in and not listen to Gilmore about making changes and with Eisen's overness it boosts the rating and thus their overness gains. And since every vignette is set to minor success for them sooner or later the reach their top success rating and you end the story after their first official match and win in SWF and watch their momentum go up and get them ready for their first feud. (to do this you have to leave them unaligned so any segment they are in counts toward the story.)</p>

[fusionfx]

<p>Very detailed answers guys. Thanks alot for your input. You guys are probably getting annoyed with all my questions, but I have another one that's a two part question. What do you do with negative people like Marc DuBois, Everest, and The Pain Alliance? Also, do you ever sign any negative people?</p><p> </p><p>

For my answers, I try to keep DuBois, but get rid of everybody else. As for signing negative people, I have signed Acid and a few others but I've forgotten who the others were.</p>

[Rickymex]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="fusionfx!" data-cite="fusionfx!" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34914" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Very detailed answers guys. Thanks alot for your input. You guys are probably getting annoyed with all my questions, but I have another one that's a two part question. What do you do with negative people like Marc DuBois, Everest, and The Pain Alliance? Also, do you ever sign any negative people?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Send them to the B-Show to feud and transfer overness to new guys with decent storylines</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="fusionfx!" data-cite="fusionfx!" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34914" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>For my answers, I try to keep DuBois, but get rid of everybody else. As for signing negative people, I have signed Acid and a few others but I've forgotten who the others were.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Depends on their worth and position. Joey Minnesota is worth it but Bear Bekowski isn't. Plus when I bring in negative guys they start out at the bottom and don't affect the backstage rating enough.</p>

[fusionfx]

Oh yeah, another question. In angles, do people only shown on screen gain in anything or do people off screen gain it too?

[Jaysin]

Only on screen.

[Devilb0y]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="fusionfx!" data-cite="fusionfx!" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34914" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Oh yeah, another question. In angles, do people only shown on screen gain in anything or do people off screen gain it too?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> As Jaysin said above, but also worth noting is that if someone is on sceen but not rated they will gain less than someone who is rated on something.</p>

[Kainlock]

<p>I really see the point of limiting your development because I am in May right now and have 60 wrestlers on my roster and more and more wanting to be called up every week. I plan to make some big changes once I get past Supreme Challenge. </p><p> </p><p>

I also got another A Show thinking of doing a brand split, but now I am not sure about the split and here I sit with 2 A's and a B show to fill the time. I could go back to an earlier save, but I want to work things out. </p><p> </p><p>

How do the rest of you go about dealing with development. I just released Arthur Bradley from his contract because he didn't want to be in developmental anymore and his stats still sucked, so I just said good bye. Hopefully he can be better for the indies now.</p>

[Rickymex]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Kainlock" data-cite="Kainlock" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34914" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I really see the point of limiting your development because I am in May right now and have 60 wrestlers on my roster and more and more wanting to be called up every week. I plan to make some big changes once I get past Supreme Challenge. <p> </p><p> I also got another A Show thinking of doing a brand split, but now I am not sure about the split and here I sit with 2 A's and a B show to fill the time. I could go back to an earlier save, but I want to work things out. </p><p> </p><p> How do the rest of you go about dealing with development. I just released Arthur Bradley from his contract because he didn't want to be in developmental anymore and his stats still sucked, so I just said good bye. Hopefully he can be better for the indies now.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Give them 3 or 6 months contracts and check to see how much they can improve. If they will only improve a little bring them up and job them to hell or release them. If they have potential then sign them up to a longer contract later.</p>

[Irish Wolf]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Kainlock" data-cite="Kainlock" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34914" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I really see the point of limiting your development because I am in May right now and have 60 wrestlers on my roster and more and more wanting to be called up every week. I plan to make some big changes once I get past Supreme Challenge. <p> </p><p> I also got another A Show thinking of doing a brand split, but now I am not sure about the split and here I sit with 2 A's and a B show to fill the time. I could go back to an earlier save, but I want to work things out. </p><p> </p><p> How do the rest of you go about dealing with development. I just released Arthur Bradley from his contract because he didn't want to be in developmental anymore and his stats still sucked, so I just said good bye. Hopefully he can be better for the indies now.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> For development I sign workers to only 3 month contracts at a time. If they start complaining and I have no use for them right away they can go back to the indy scene and I'll keep them short listed when I can think about suing them.</p><p> </p><p> For brand splits always think about this do you have enough main eventers who are actually main eventers (I mean when you higher a lot of guys people will start getting pushed as main eventers at B- and really that or higher then when you brand split thats 3 B and 2 B- MEs and that's not really gonna do it for you. especially since one of your most over main eventer, Khoklov, only works PPV. At the bare minimum I would say you need 4 guys over B preferably B+ for each show to warrant a brand split.</p>

[Kainlock]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Rickymex" data-cite="Rickymex" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34914" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Give them 3 or 6 months contracts and check to see how much they can improve. If they will only improve a little bring them up and job them to hell or release them. If they have potential then sign them up to a longer contract later.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Apupunchau@optonline" data-cite="Apupunchau@optonline" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34914" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>For development I sign workers to only 3 month contracts at a time. If they start complaining and I have no use for them right away they can go back to the indy scene and I'll keep them short listed when I can think about suing them. </div></blockquote> <p> </p><p> yeah I will do that for know on. Makes a lot more sense. </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34914" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>For brand splits always think about this do you have enough main eventers who are actually main eventers (I mean when you higher a lot of guys people will start getting pushed as main eventers at B- and really that or higher then when you brand split thats 3 B and 2 B- MEs and that's not really gonna do it for you. especially since one of your most over main eventer, Khoklov, only works PPV. At the bare minimum I would say you need 4 guys over B preferably B+ for each show to warrant a brand split.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Well I do have about 9-10 guys at a B or higher (4 at a B+ and 3 at an A right now).</p>

[Irish Wolf]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Kainlock" data-cite="Kainlock" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34914" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Well I do have about 9-10 guys at a B or higher (4 at a B+ and 3 at an A right now).</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Well than I say you're good to go for a brand split. You should be able to keep two shows with a roster like that. I will reiterate my love of less matches more angles and also hiring about say 8 guys at the way bottom on rotating three or four month contracts to job out to the guys who are jobbing to your MEs and UMs. If you're going to do two brand you can leave the 8 guys un branded and just have them lose in dark matches on each show. This is a great way to use guys who won't go into development but you have no real ideas for yet, giving both a little exposure and far more matches then they would get on the indy scene. So 8 guys Jan-Mar, 8 different guys Apr-Jun, 8 even more different guys Jul-Sep and the 8 extremely different guys Oct-Dec and with the six month between ability to rehire when you let their contracts expire or release them they'll be good to go the next time they're 3 month block comes around.</p>

[fusionfx]

<p>I just ran a match, Jack Bruce and Valiant going over Big Smack Scott and Kurt Laramee. They had great chemistry with their tag partners, but in the dirt sheet it said there wasn't enough selling..yet the match still got an 87%!</p><p> </p><p>

Edit: And the best part about it was it was the main event of the night, that was Supreme TV btw.</p>

[fusionfx]

Quick question, hopefully somebody is online that can help me with this. On some of the workers contracts they have loyal to "such and such" promotion. Is there anyway to get around that to try to sign someone?

[Lo-Drew]

From what I've seen, no. Only real way is if whatever promotion said wrestler is loyal to lets them walk or fires them. Only real way I think is if said wrestler is a free agent or doesn't work for the promotion they're loyal too while with another company.

[Rickymex]

You could hire them on a ppa contract but they will never leave their home promotion unless, like Lo-D said, they get fired or they walk away along with the company going bankrupt.

[Hashasheen]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Rickymex" data-cite="Rickymex" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34914" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You could hire them on a ppa contract but they will never leave their home promotion unless, like Lo-D said, they get fired or they walk away along with the company going bankrupt.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Actually, if you're at war with them (and neither company is national or at least they aren't), you can offer them a PPA that causes an immediate walkout, and then just resign them with a written contract (bonus to their morale as well).</p>

[Kingster]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hashasheen" data-cite="Hashasheen" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34914" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Actually, if you're at war with them (and neither company is national or at least they aren't), you can offer them a PPA that causes an immediate walkout, and then just resign them with a written contract (bonus to their morale as well).</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Does this actually work? In my opinion, the AI should realize that the two companies are at war and that the worker in question would have to leave the company he's loyal to. </p><p> If it does indeed work, it should be reported as a bug, imo.</p>

[Rickymex]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hashasheen" data-cite="Hashasheen" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34914" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Actually, if you're at war with them (and neither company is national or at least they aren't), you can offer them a PPA that causes an immediate walkout, and then just resign them with a written contract (bonus to their morale as well).</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I tried that before as BHOTWG and they(Emeral Angel, Kobe, ect.) refuse to sign at all since it means they would leave their home promotion</p>

[Kainlock]

<p>Here is my brand split after Supreme Challenge</p><p> </p><p>

The Tag Champs (Awesomeness) and the SWF Champ (Brandon James) will be able to move between brands. James will fight Steve Frehley in a rematch for the title.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>

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[Irish Wolf]

Both main events are heacy one way or the other (dace or heel) so its pretty much one Main event feud and everything else is MEs vs UMs.

[Teh_Showtime]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Rickymex" data-cite="Rickymex" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34914" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I tried that before as BHOTWG and they(Emeral Angel, Kobe, ect.) refuse to sign at all since it means they would leave their home promotion</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yeah that was a bug it got fixed a few months ago. It allowed me to get Magnum Kobe in SWF but was since fixed.</p>

[Kainlock]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Apupunchau@optonline" data-cite="Apupunchau@optonline" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34914" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Both main events are heacy one way or the other (dace or heel) so its pretty much one Main event feud and everything else is MEs vs UMs.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yeah for right now that is ok. Frehley will join the Surpeme brand and Des David will turn and should be close to pushed into the ME scene. Brandon James will be able to jump around a lot and I also have Bruce the Giant (Occasional Wrestler) who will bounce around too.</p>

[Manipulation]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Kainlock" data-cite="Kainlock" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34914" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Here is my brand split after Supreme Challenge<p> </p><p> The Tag Champs (Awesomeness) and the SWF Champ (Brandon James) will be able to move between brands. James will fight Steve Frehley in a rematch for the title.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> [attach]5310[/attach]</p></div></blockquote>I think you may have initiated your brand split a tad too early, believe me it's something I've always done as well when playing as the SWF. However, in my current SWF game I've managed to hold off until September 2015 when I was literally seething with main eventers (probably 12 or so auto pushed) which means I have plenty of popularity of each brand. Mind you I do have my second brand as B show so I have leeway when it comes to introducing new talent and eventually moving the better workers to the A brand.

[Kainlock]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Manipulation" data-cite="Manipulation" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34914" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I think you may have initiated your brand split a tad too early, believe me it's something I've always done as well when playing as the SWF. However, in my current SWF game I've managed to hold off until September 2015 when I was literally seething with main eventers (probably 12 or so auto pushed) which means I have plenty of popularity of each brand. Mind you I do have my second brand as B show so I have leeway when it comes to introducing new talent and eventually moving the better workers to the A brand.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> At first I agreed and thought I would abandon it, but know I look forward to the challenge to see if I can make it successful. I auto push to 11 guys at Main Event. After all with SWF after a few months sitting at International I need something to challenge myself. </p><p> </p><p> For me its more about building guys up. I think I have done a good job of that with 7 guys sitting at B+ or more across the country.</p>