justtxyank Posted June 19, 2014 Author Share Posted June 19, 2014 <p>Match rating doesn't rate the quality of the match in terms of ring work, it rates how the match is rated by the audience watching it. </p><p> </p><p> Yes, Luger worked better matches than Warrior and his stats reflect that. However, there is no doubt that Warriors matches were much better rated by fans at the time because of his popularity/star quality/charisma and the WWF product. </p><p> </p><p> And it SHOULD be harder to get Luger over than Warrior. Warrior was way more over than Luger ever was because he was more charismatic, athletic, better star quality, etc. </p><p> </p><p> Booking Luger well will get him over, but I don't really have a problem with not being able to get him over like Warrior was. He's not nearly the character that Warrior was. </p><p> </p><p> I have boosted Luger a little for the next release, but it won't be huge.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justtxyank Posted June 19, 2014 Author Share Posted June 19, 2014 <p>Just as a follow up, I'm assuming you are playing as WCW in 1991?</p><p> </p><p> Getting Luger over in WCW in 1991 should be hard (in terms of overall popularity). It was hard in Real Life. WCW struggled to get anyone over really outside of Flair and Sting on a big level. </p><p> </p><p> Getting Luger over in the WWF isn't all that easy either. He did struggle to get over in real life after all.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatedRKO16 Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Just as a follow up, I'm assuming you are playing as WCW in 1991? Getting Luger over in WCW in 1991 should be hard (in terms of overall popularity). It was hard in Real Life. WCW struggled to get anyone over really outside of Flair and Sting on a big level. Getting Luger over in the WWF isn't all that easy either. He did struggle to get over in real life after all. I'm playing as WWF and I think his contract came up in October in which I outbid WCW with him. He put on a crap match on Superstars and a crap angle the next one, comprehensive test, got him for roids, and dumped him. You make fair points. I guess just in comparison to some other workers that can put on great matches, Luger seems pretty low. Bryan Clark Brian Adams Earthquake Typhoon 48 year old Harley Race Jim Neidhart Sycho Sid Just to name a few I can get a better match out of. Maybe I just got unlucky with Luger's destiny roll and/or these guys got a better roll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4horsemanfan Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 I fired Luger and gave his push to barry windham. Im sorry but I have never liked Luger and didn't saw what he hype was about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattywood Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 I'm playing as WWF and I think his contract came up in October in which I outbid WCW with him. He put on a crap match on Superstars and a crap angle the next one, comprehensive test, got him for roids, and dumped him. You make fair points. I guess just in comparison to some other workers that can put on great matches, Luger seems pretty low. Bryan Clark Brian Adams Earthquake Typhoon 48 year old Harley Race Jim Neidhart Sycho Sid Just to name a few I can get a better match out of. Maybe I just got unlucky with Luger's destiny roll and/or these guys got a better roll. The bolded part is most likely what may have happened, Luger getting bit with a bad destiny roll. And justtxyank makes a great point on when Luger had his best matches, with said matches having very talented workers to help carry him to great matches. I do recall seeing him throw his share of air punches that opponents sold anyway, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justtxyank Posted June 20, 2014 Author Share Posted June 20, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="RatedRKO16" data-cite="RatedRKO16" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37696" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm playing as WWF and I think his contract came up in October in which I outbid WCW with him. He put on a crap match on Superstars and a crap angle the next one, comprehensive test, got him for roids, and dumped him.<p> </p><p> You make fair points. I guess just in comparison to some other workers that can put on great matches, Luger seems pretty low.</p><p> </p><p> Bryan Clark</p><p> Brian Adams</p><p> Earthquake</p><p> Typhoon</p><p> 48 year old Harley Race</p><p> Jim Neidhart</p><p> Sycho Sid</p><p> </p><p> Just to name a few I can get a better match out of. Maybe I just got unlucky with Luger's destiny roll and/or these guys got a better roll.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> This is interesting input. I'll do a more thorough check on some of those. For some of them it may be popularity.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="RatedRKO16" data-cite="RatedRKO16" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37696" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm playing as WWF and I think his contract came up in October in which I outbid WCW with him. He put on a crap match on Superstars and a crap angle the next one, comprehensive test, got him for roids, and dumped him.<p> </p><p> You make fair points. I guess just in comparison to some other workers that can put on great matches, Luger seems pretty low.</p><p> </p><p> Bryan Clark</p><p> Brian Adams</p><p> Earthquake</p><p> Typhoon</p><p> 48 year old Harley Race</p><p> Jim Neidhart</p><p> Sycho Sid</p><p> </p><p> Just to name a few I can get a better match out of. Maybe I just got unlucky with Luger's destiny roll and/or these guys got a better roll.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Other than Typhoon, I feel like all those guys are underrated workers anyway. Sid should be stupid easy to get over in a sports entertainment company. He's charismatic and oozes menace and star quality. He just has the look. Clark and Adams are big bad asses who were fairly good brawlers and in Clark's case, he was fairly agile and pretty quick on his feet. Earthquake was a terrible underrated big man. Race is well, Harley Race. Nothing needs to be said. Neidhart at this point isn't in his prime any longer, but he's still a good worker.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatedRKO16 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="37696" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Other than Typhoon, I feel like all those guys are underrated workers anyway. Sid should be stupid easy to get over in a sports entertainment company. He's charismatic and oozes menace and star quality. He just has the look. Clark and Adams are big bad asses who were fairly good brawlers and in Clark's case, he was fairly agile and pretty quick on his feet. Earthquake was a terrible underrated big man. Race is well, Harley Race. Nothing needs to be said. Neidhart at this point isn't in his prime any longer, but he's still a good worker.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Right - I understand those things and I don't mean to say these guys are bad workers but I think Luger is at least on that level. But, I'll just chalk it up to a bad destiny roll.</p><p> </p><p> Really, the only thing these guys have at this point for me is being able to call in the ring (for shorter matches anyways) now and that seems to play a huge role in boosting match grades.</p><p> </p><p> Oh well, it is what it is. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ping von Erich Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 <p>So I've learned I'm pretty awful at making my own pics... even with the natural background / no cutting involved way. lol</p><p> </p><p> Could someone be bothered to help a brother out with this pic of The Undertaker?</p><p> </p><p> <span>http://i.imgur.com/iVnvzbo.jpg</span></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnbill5000 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 I love that those two guys in the background don't care even a bit that taker is in full gimmick just sitting on a bike. Though that might be Dillion and Brisco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justtxyank Posted June 27, 2014 Author Share Posted June 27, 2014 Here you go Ping. Is this what you wanted?<p><a class="ipsAttachLink ipsAttachLink_image" href="<fileStore.core_Attachment>/monthly_2014_06/Taker4Ping.jpg.d89ce82ab5b215b40e7f1460293a1160.jpg" data-fileid="2764" data-fileext="jpg" rel=""><img data-fileid="2764" class="ipsImage ipsImage_thumbnailed" alt="Taker4Ping.jpg.d89ce82ab5b215b40e7f1460293a1160.jpg" data-src="<fileStore.core_Attachment>/monthly_2014_06/Taker4Ping.jpg.d89ce82ab5b215b40e7f1460293a1160.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></a></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ping von Erich Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Here you go Ping. Is this what you wanted? You're a golden god, sir. I turned him face and broke him away from Bearer to "un-gimmick" the whole act a little and build Taker as my next big babyface behind Hogan. I always liked the picture because he's still so young but looks a little less "spooky deadman" and more cool gothic hero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ping von Erich Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Found a great Pillman pic... any chance of another cut? http://i.imgur.com/zDQKOp1.png EDIT Also this one of The Koloff's if possible. http://i.imgur.com/JOQAgCx.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattywood Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Found a great Pillman pic... any chance of another cut? Not sure where justtxyank is these days, so I hope he doesn't mind me cutting these. If he wants to cut his own, he's more than welcome to. ^_^ Anywho: http://i.imgur.com/T1YKjNE.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/QRjYFIl.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/xYIoz0M.jpg I saved them as Nikita Koloff 1, Ivan Koloff 1 and Brian Pillman 12 and they have been included in my Risky Business picture pack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justtxyank Posted July 24, 2014 Author Share Posted July 24, 2014 I have always been here. http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/136/b/d/kosh_avatar__animated__by_amras_arfeiniel-d60w0za.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ping von Erich Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Not sure where justtxyank is these days, so I hope he doesn't mind me cutting these. If he wants to cut his own, he's more than welcome to. ^_^ Anywho: http://i.imgur.com/T1YKjNE.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/QRjYFIl.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/xYIoz0M.jpg I saved them as Nikita Koloff 1, Ivan Koloff 1 and Brian Pillman 12 and they have been included in my Risky Business picture pack. *uuuuunf* My long running WWF save is about to get that much cooler, thank you sir. About to move into September! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InsaneDragon2k7 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 can someone due this pic of kevin kelly for me http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/n/nailz/14.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordofGustav Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Not sure where justtxyank is these days, so I hope he doesn't mind me cutting these. If he wants to cut his own, he's more than welcome to. ^_^ Anywho: http://i.imgur.com/T1YKjNE.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/QRjYFIl.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/xYIoz0M.jpg I saved them as Nikita Koloff 1, Ivan Koloff 1 and Brian Pillman 12 and they have been included in my Risky Business picture pack. Matt, it's cool that! Pillman seems scary over there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justtxyank Posted July 27, 2014 Author Share Posted July 27, 2014 can someone due this pic of kevin kelly for me http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/n/nailz/14.jpg I think that picture is in the pack under Kevin wacholz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InsaneDragon2k7 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 nope that pic is not there anyway i can get it done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justtxyank Posted July 30, 2014 Author Share Posted July 30, 2014 I have this one. Will that work? Better picture in my opinion.<p><a class="ipsAttachLink ipsAttachLink_image" href="<fileStore.core_Attachment>/monthly_2014_07/433157304_Nailz1.jpg.5850e030345824d1fbd0ff88f5bf187f.jpg" data-fileid="2793" data-fileext="jpg" rel=""><img data-fileid="2793" class="ipsImage ipsImage_thumbnailed" alt="433157304_Nailz1.jpg.5850e030345824d1fbd0ff88f5bf187f.jpg" data-src="<fileStore.core_Attachment>/monthly_2014_07/433157304_Nailz1.jpg.5850e030345824d1fbd0ff88f5bf187f.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></a></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattywood Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 I have this one. Will that work? Better picture in my opinion. I can't speak for InsaneDragon, but I definitely appreciate you making that cut. Already got it put into the Risky Business people picture pack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InsaneDragon2k7 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 yes Justtxyank that pic is better and it will do i wanted it for your 91 mod and for my matt shannon 88 AWA game thanks man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawn Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Matt, it's cool that! Pillman seems scary over there... >_> ...Cool pics, Matt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stennick Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 So I have went through every available mod on the board from '83 until '94 and I can't find either of these guys under any name in a single database. In 92 and 93 Doug Stahl and A.J. Petrucci worked in ECW as The Super Destroyers. They were in fact the longest reigning ECW Tag Champs for quite a long time. There is either confusion on my behalf and I'm just not looking under the right name or there is confusion from their team name being the Super Destroyers and of course "Wild" Bill Irwin is part of the more recognized Super Destroyers. maybe people saw Super Destroyers and assumed it was Young and Irwin. Either way does anyone have any information on these guys? Or does anyone know of a mod they are included in. To be the longest reigning ECW champs, two time champions at that and not be included in any mods seems like I'm just not seeing them somewhere. Any help from anybody would be appreciated. I posted it here since it seemed like either this or the '94 thread would be my best bets since they achieved most of their success in '92 and '93. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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