thecatinaction Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 How do you book Preshow and Postshow Segments? It always says I have an optional 60 minutes for preshow segments, and 30 minutes for postshow segments. I have looked in Angles, but there is only pre and post match, not show. Also, how does preshow and postshow segments effect your show rating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gungner Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 1) When you book a match or an angle, you can tick "pre-show" or "post-show". 2) They don't. Pre- and post-show segments have no impact on your show rating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tussinewa Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 How do you book Preshow and Postshow Segments? It always says I have an optional 60 minutes for preshow segments, and 30 minutes for postshow segments. I have looked in Angles, but there is only pre and post match, not show. Also, how does preshow and postshow segments effect your show rating? When booking a match there's a tick box for pre-show or post- show. I generally book pre-show matches if I have people from the lower card who aren't planned to be in a match in the main show. I never book post-show matches, never saw the point in them myself. Pre-show and post-show segments don't effect your show rating one bit, which is nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gungner Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 As far as I know you can only book matches in pre-show and post-show. I generally book pre-show matches if I have people from the lower card who aren't planned to be in a match in the main show. I never book post-show matches, never saw the point in them myself. Pre-show and post-show segments don't effect your show rating one bit, which is nice. Angles can also be booked as pre- and post-show segments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tussinewa Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Angles can also be booked as pre- and post-show segments. I didn't know, thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Hook Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Pre-show and post-show segments don't effect your show rating one bit, which is nice. Yep- they are ideal for workers who need experience/training not only in the ring but with entertainment skills. For example, every show I run a pre-show angle called "work the crowd" and I put 8 workers in it rated on entertainment. I get improvements for many who need it in that area without the risk of bombing an angle in the main show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackman Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 But they do count for the flow of the show right? I remember being hesitant to use them in previous games because they tend to lower the crowd's mood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecatinaction Posted May 15, 2016 Author Share Posted May 15, 2016 Ah, wow, can't believe I missed that haha. Thanks for pointing that out to me, everyone! I appreciate all of your quick response! Yep- they are ideal for workers who need experience/training not only in the ring but with entertainment skills. For example, every show I run a pre-show angle called "work the crowd" and I put 8 workers in it rated on entertainment. I get improvements for many who need it in that area without the risk of bombing an angle in the main show. That is perfect. The crowd hates when I book Enzo Amore and Big Cass for some reason, I guess because they are so inexperienced, so this will be perfect to help me get my jobbers up to at least being able to get some kind of crowd love! Thanks a lot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pogo92 Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 But they do count for the flow of the show right? I remember being hesitant to use them in previous games because they tend to lower the crowd's mood. You can use them still to get the crowd hot. It's useful in game theory if you're booking a very short show (1 hour long) but need to generate some heat for the later matches. Work the Crowd for instance, or use a non-involved Main Eventer to run an open match over an Opener or LMC. I like to use Post-Show matches in the historic sense, by putting together good quality matches for the fans with over workers that weren't featured in the card (Or minorly featured, like a squah match). You can also use them as a place to give ETs some experience without risking a rigidly constructed card's crowd heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttj0001 Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 You can use them still to get the crowd hot. It's useful in game theory if you're booking a very short show (1 hour long) but need to generate some heat for the later matches. Work the Crowd for instance, or use a non-involved Main Eventer to run an open match over an Opener or LMC. I like to use Post-Show matches in the historic sense, by putting together good quality matches for the fans with over workers that weren't featured in the card (Or minorly featured, like a squah match). You can also use them as a place to give ETs some experience without risking a rigidly constructed card's crowd heat. Be careful with using workers who are in a storyline together in a post-show match though. I know in TEW13 that would tank the storyline heat because the workers would hold back and the match rating would suffer. I haven't tried it in '16 yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddyGarner Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Actually post show segments can affect your overall rating by causing overuse penalties. And it's best to use as many segments in a show as possible especially angles which don't cause fatigue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecatinaction Posted May 15, 2016 Author Share Posted May 15, 2016 Are we sure pre-show matches don't effect Show Rating? I booked two pre-show matches with borrowed workers from NXT (to test their match quality), which resulted in a D for both matches. Besides that, I had at least a B- for almost all of my segments, with maybe one or two C ratings. In theory, I should have earned at least a B- (or very least C*), but I ended up with just a C rating. Are we positive on this, or should there be an experiment done to confirm this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiantChair Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Pretty sure it says in the in game help that pre/post show don't contribute to the shows rating. They just allow you to warm the crowd up or maybe try out chemistry without tanking things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecatinaction Posted May 16, 2016 Author Share Posted May 16, 2016 Pretty sure it says in the in game help that pre/post show don't contribute to the shows rating. They just allow you to warm the crowd up or maybe try out chemistry without tanking things. Cool, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moafnsteel Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Yep- they are ideal for workers who need experience/training not only in the ring but with entertainment skills. For example, every show I run a pre-show angle called "work the crowd" and I put 8 workers in it rated on entertainment. I get improvements for many who need it in that area without the risk of bombing an angle in the main show. I cannot believe I never thought about doing this. That could be one of the best ideas ever. Thank you for this suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Bombadil Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Actually post show segments can affect your overall rating by causing overuse penalties. And it's best to use as many segments in a show as possible especially angles which don't cause fatigue. If your workers are on PPA's though, it might be better to leave some of them off, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingster Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 But they do count for the flow of the show right? I remember being hesitant to use them in previous games because they tend to lower the crowd's mood. It's stated in the player's handbook that pre- and post show segments don't affect crowd management, nor do minor angles and angles under 5 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Hook Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 I cannot believe I never thought about doing this. That could be one of the best ideas ever. Thank you for this suggestion. You're welcome, though I can't take credit. Someone on here threw it out there a couple years ago. Wish I could remember who it was as you're right, it is a great method. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Hook Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Actually post show segments can affect your overall rating by causing overuse penalties. Yes, they do so I turned that off. It's the only option I turned off, but with a 0/0/0/0 company, I was getting overused notes every show. Well, at the local and small level, people will expect to see the whole roster (indeed you really have to use the whole roster to get a show put together). I never understood why these dark matches and angles can overexpose a worker if they aren't really part of the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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