21CW: European Expansion

[RKOwnage]

Kevin Jones vs Tommy Cornell

Leigh Burton vs Viktor Beskov

[christmas_ape]

Like the catchphrases. Koller came up with one in my game. No clue what that could be...

 

I didn't like the presentation at first but its grown on me. Good work sir.

 

KUTGW

 

Thank you, not only was your 21CW diary one of the first ones I ever read when joining here but it was my first introduction to 21CW so it's great to have you reading.

 

The presentation isn't perfect. I'll be the first to admit I'm going for easiness over looks, but I think it gets enough across whilst also letting me write shows fast. I'm slowly working on a skin to make it suit 21CW a bit more but progress is slow as it's not something I've done before.

[KnowYourEnemy]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="christmas_ape" data-cite="christmas_ape" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41685" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Thank you, not only was your 21CW diary one of the first ones I ever read when joining here but it was my first introduction to 21CW so it's great to have you reading. <p> </p><p> The presentation isn't perfect. I'll be the first to admit I'm going for easiness over looks, but I think it gets enough across whilst also letting me write shows fast. I'm slowly working on a skin to make it suit 21CW a bit more but progress is slow as it's not something I've done before.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I think the presentation overall works well -- brevity works great, and it makes it easy both easy to upload and read. It meshes well with the writing, and makes it easier for you to write.</p>

[michgcs]

<p>Best of British Wrestling Predictions</p><p> </p><p>

Kevin Jones vs<strong> Tommy Cornell</strong></p><p>

<strong>Leigh Burton</strong> vs Viktor Beskov</p>

[Satyr24]

<p>Best of British Wrestling Predictions</p><p> </p><p>

Kevin Jones vs<strong> Tommy Cornell</strong></p><p>

<strong>Leigh Burton</strong> vs Viktor Beskov</p>

[Midnightnick]

<p>Kevin Jones vs <strong>Tommy Cornell</strong></p><p><strong>

Leigh Burton</strong> vs Viktor Beskov</p>

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<p><span style="font-family:Garamond;"><span style="font-size:18px;"><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">SHOW 7</span></strong></span></span></p><p> </p><p>

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I remember enjoying this episode because I had the Cornell v Jones match planned for a while, meant to sort of act like a double turn although I wouldn't say it's fully confirmed for either of them yet. 21CW in general likes it's clear face/heel divide but I don't mind a few characters (Jones and Cornell being the best 2 examples) being a little bit tweener. </p><p> </p><p>

Again this one feels short to read, it's whenever I have a big main event that takes 20+ minutes. The increase to 90 is definitely looking like a real possibility. </p><p> </p><p>

A busy week delayed the posting of this a little, so Star Maker and the predictions for World War will be up soon.</p>

[michgcs]

Loved the main event, buddy. I really appreciated how you tried to put the emotion and the desperation of both men. Extremely interested to see where this is all headed <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />

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World War Predictions

 

Who will become the first ever winner of 21CW's Got Talent?

Phoebe Plumridge, Sifu or Wade Orson?

 

Tag Team Titles Triple Threat

The Pride vs The Red Devils© vs The Skyscrapers

 

International Title

Wade Orson© vs ???

 

World Title Match

Adam Matravers© vs Edward Cornell

 

World War

Brickhouse Balder

Buff Martinez

Daniel Black Francis

Dark Angel

Harry Wilson

Igor Ivanoff

Ivan Ivanoff

J-B Cash

Jonathan Faust

Kelly Martin

Kevin Jones

Lance Martin

Luke Cool

Phillip Cooper

Sebastian Koller

Sifu

Stevie Stoat

Tommy Cornell

Wade Orson

War Machine

 

3 Points for guessing the correct winner

1 point each for guessing the final 4

1 point for guessing the most eliminations

(If anyone gets 5 points for this they get an extra prize)

 

This will bring an end to the first prediction contest. Boltinho as very kindly offered to help with the prizes and I also have a couple of other small ideas so hopefully some fun stuff will come from it.

[KnowYourEnemy]

<p>Who will become the first ever winner of 21CW's Got Talent?</p><p>

<strong>Phoebe Plumridge</strong>, Sifu or Wade Orson?</p><p> </p><p>

Tag Team Titles Triple Threat</p><p>

The Pride vs The Red Devils© vs <strong>The Skyscrapers</strong></p><p> </p><p>

International Title</p><p>

<strong>Wade Orson©</strong> vs ???</p><p> </p><p>

World Title Match</p><p>

<strong>Adam Matravers©</strong> vs Edward Cornell</p><p> </p><p>

World War</p><p>

Brickhouse Balder</p><p>

Buff Martinez</p><p>

Daniel Black Francis</p><p>

Dark Angel</p><p>

Harry Wilson</p><p>

Igor Ivanoff</p><p>

Ivan Ivanoff</p><p>

J-B Cash</p><p>

<strong>Jonathan Faust</strong></p><p>

Kelly Martin</p><p>

Kevin Jones</p><p>

Lance Martin</p><p>

Luke Cool</p><p>

Phillip Cooper</p><p>

Sebastian Koller</p><p>

Sifu</p><p>

Stevie Stoat</p><p>

Tommy Cornell</p><p>

Wade Orson</p><p>

War Machine</p><p> </p><p>

3 Points for guessing the correct winner: Jonathon Faust.</p><p>

1 point each for guessing the final 4: Tommy Cornell, Jonathon Faust, Kevin Jones and War Machine. </p><p>

1 point for guessing the most eliminations: War Machine.</p>

[Midnightnick]

<p>Who will become the first ever winner of 21CW's Got Talent?</p><p>

Phoebe Plumridge, Sifu or <strong>Wade Orson</strong>?</p><p> </p><p>

Tag Team Titles Triple Threat</p><p>

The Pride vs The Red Devils© vs <strong>The Skyscrapers</strong></p><p> </p><p>

International Title</p><p>

Wade Orson© vs <strong>???</strong></p><p> </p><p>

World Title Match</p><p>

<strong>Adam Matravers©</strong> vs Edward Cornell</p><p> </p><p>

World War</p><p>

Brickhouse Balder</p><p>

<em>Buff Martinez</em></p><p>

Daniel Black Francis</p><p>

Dark Angel</p><p>

Harry Wilson</p><p>

Igor Ivanoff</p><p>

Ivan Ivanoff</p><p>

J-B Cash</p><p>

Jonathan Faust</p><p>

Kelly Martin</p><p>

Kevin Jones</p><p>

Lance Martin</p><p>

Luke Cool</p><p>

Phillip Cooper</p><p>

<strong><em>Sebastian Koller</em></strong> - Winner</p><p>

Sifu</p><p>

Stevie Stoat</p><p>

<em>Tommy Cornell</em></p><p>

Wade Orson</p><p>

<em>War Machine</em> - Most Elminations/Final 4</p><p> </p><p>

3 Points for guessing the correct winner</p><p>

1 point each for guessing the final 4</p><p>

1 point for guessing the most eliminations</p><p>

(If anyone gets 5 points for this they get an extra prize)</p>

[michgcs]

<p>World War Predictions</p><p> </p><p>

Who will become the first ever winner of 21CW's Got Talent?</p><p>

Phoebe Plumridge, Sifu or <strong>Wade Orson</strong>?</p><p>

<em>Indubit-effin-ably!</em></p><p> </p><p>

Tag Team Titles Triple Threat</p><p>

The Pride vs <strong>The Red Devils©</strong> vs The Skyscrapers</p><p> </p><p>

International Title</p><p>

Wade Orson© vs <strong>???</strong></p><p>

<em>Gotta have a title change and ??? sounds like the guy to do it</em></p><p> </p><p>

World Title Match</p><p>

<strong>Adam Matravers©</strong> vs Edward Cornell</p><p> </p><p>

World War</p><p>

Brickhouse Balder</p><p>

Buff Martinez</p><p>

Daniel Black Francis</p><p>

Dark Angel</p><p>

Harry Wilson</p><p>

Igor Ivanoff</p><p>

Ivan Ivanoff</p><p>

J-B Cash</p><p>

<strong>Jonathan Faust</strong></p><p>

Kelly Martin</p><p>

Kevin Jones</p><p>

Lance Martin</p><p>

Luke Cool</p><p>

Phillip Cooper</p><p>

Sebastian Koller</p><p>

Sifu</p><p>

Stevie Stoat</p><p>

Tommy Cornell</p><p>

Wade Orson</p><p>

War Machine</p><p> </p><p>

3 Points for guessing the correct winner</p><p>

1 point each for guessing the final 4 <strong>Orson, Cornell, Angel, Faust</strong></p><p>

1 point for guessing the most eliminations <strong>Angel</strong></p><p>

(If anyone gets 5 points for this they get an extra prize)</p><p> </p><p>

This will bring an end to the first prediction contest. Boltinho as very kindly offered to help with the prizes and I also have a couple of other small ideas so hopefully some fun stuff will come from it.</p>

[Satyr24]

Who will become the first ever winner of 21CW's Got Talent?

Phoebe Plumridge, Sifu or Wade Orson?

 

Tag Team Titles Triple Threat

The Pride vs The Red Devils© vs The Skyscrapers

 

International Title

Wade Orson© vs ???

 

World Title Match

Adam Matravers© vs Edward Cornell

 

World War

Brickhouse Balder

Buff Martinez

Daniel Black Francis

Dark Angel

Harry Wilson

Igor Ivanoff

Ivan Ivanoff

J-B Cash

Jonathan Faust

Kelly Martin

Kevin Jones

Lance Martin

Luke Cool

Phillip Cooper

Sebastian Koller

Sifu

Stevie Stoat

Tommy Cornell

Wade Orson

War Machine

 

3 Points for guessing the correct winner

1 point each for guessing the final 4 Kevin Jones, Tommy Cornell, Jonathan Faust & Harry Wilson

1 point for guessing the most eliminations War Machine

(If anyone gets 5 points for this they get an extra prize)

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<div style="text-align:center;"><p><strong><span style="font-family:Garamond;"><span style="font-size:18px;"><span style="text-decoration:underline;">WORLD WAR</span></span></span></strong></p></div><p></p><p> </p><p>

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[The Lloyd]

<p>Disclaimer: (even though I know you won't think it is) this isn't an advert for my diary!!</p><p> </p><p>

So, is this how we're going to do it now then ape? You wait until I post a show, and then you post your best show yet?! I see... Okay... Okay... That's fine! Because I've got Tommy Cor... oh wait, so have you... </p><p> </p><p>

Thoughts on the show:</p><p> </p><p>

Well firstly Buff Martinez!? I never saw that coming! With Faust, Angel, Tommy and others in the match, Buff is a shock for sure! I wrote Faust out of mine so that it would seem like Angel and Tommy were the two obvious favourites, which made the eventual runner up a shock, but Angel still won! Buff winning is HUGE! For me personally, I've always loved Hotstuff, and Buff is clearly the star of the team (just look at their ranking in the 2015 top 500 list). A Hotstuff split is something I always plan on doing, but to be honest, Buff's stats aren't what I would call fantastic. He's fairly average across the board, except I suppose he's oozing star quality! I'm thinking you'll probably end up breaking up Hotstuff, which makes me wonder what'll happen to J-B. His stats are even worse, and his star quality sucks!</p><p> </p><p>

Phoebe Plumridge - deserving winner of 21CW's Got Talent! When you sing, it's basically just you, and I thought she did an amazing job out there... Particularly in front of a wrestling crowd!</p><p> </p><p>

Adam vs Edward Cornell was well written. I like the tension between the Cornells. I think an eventual feud will be awesome!</p><p> </p><p>

Two tag teams I want to mention: Brickhouse Balder and War Machine, and then Beast Bantom and Danny Patterson! For me, Balder is a negative influence, and so he'll be jobbed out and eventually released most probably. Unless he sorts his attitude out. Patterson's on the time decline, but is still a strong hand to have in the tag team division. War Machine and Beast Bantom on the other hand, their stats and potential are very good. Both under 30, with a small amount of luck could be headline guys in 2 years! That's the way I see it anyway. <strong>How do you see the four of them in your roster?</strong></p><p> </p><p>

<strong>Is Harley Neill still around?</strong> In my 21CW, he's been passing on psychology knowledge to Mark Adonis for weeks, and he's jumped from like 50 to 68 psych!! </p><p> </p><p>

The Angel/Wilson split and feud is an interesting route to take... (it's totally different to how I'm writing their story). <strong>Do you see a future for Wilson as a top guy?</strong> At 35, with I'd say pretty terrible stats, I don't see him improving all that much.</p><p> </p><p>

I'd be interested to hear your thoughts to these comments and questions. I could have done this via PM, but I thought I'd publicly praise how great I think your diary is! Your take on all of the stories in 21CW are very unique, and I can't wait for more!</p>

[christmas_ape]

<p>Hey Lloyd well it's actually the opposite! After you posted World War I knew I would have to wait a week or so to post my one just so it's not completely overshadowed. </p><p> </p><p>

I'm glad Buff was a surprise. I always think WWE doesn't use the Rumble or Battle Royals in general right. I get that they need a huge star to win because of the whole WM main event thing, but as a story telling 'tool' I think it's a lot more interesting if truly any man can win it. It's the perfect opportunity for someone who wouldn't normally get such a chance to get lucky. In the scenario this diary lasts a really long time I won't World War to truly be open for even midcarders to randomly get a title shot. </p><p> </p><p>

I'm trying to make an effort to make sure what happens isn't necessarily what makes wrestling logic and just what I think will be interesting. Like wrestling logic would suggest now that J-B and Buff will grow apart or perhaps JB will get jealous and turn on him. They feud and Buff gets the win to go into London Calling with most momentum. Now I'm not ruling that exact scenario out, but I also like the idea of them simply staying together. Perhaps JB is happy being 2nd to Buff in the ring as long as he can ride his coat tails to the top and enjoy the VIP parties. Or perhaps they are just genuinely close friends after all this time. There is other paths it might go but I won't go into that to avoid spoilers.</p><p> </p><p>

Also what I would say is I'm getting some great performances from Buff, I agree his wrestling stats aren't great but in a pop>perm company he is good enough to main event once he is popular, at least in my opinion.. but I guess time will tell as the most important match rating of the year (London Calling main event) is now reliant on him. </p><p> </p><p>

And it's the same with Angel/Faust. Angel is old, Faust can be a huge heel for many years. Wrestling logic would suggest a long feud but with Faust ultimately coming out on top to catapult him into the title picture. However I'm interested in asking a what if things didn't happen that way. (although it still might go that way...)</p><p> </p><p>

The Cornell storyline I'm excited about because again like the Angel/Faust thing I think it's going to go in an interesting direction. </p><p> </p><p>

But in answer to your questions...Wilson is a tricky one. I went in fully expected him to simply be a pawn in the Angel/Faust storyline, but I do quite like him now. But does he have a future as a top guy? Not for me. </p><p> </p><p>

I think Harley has gotten a protege in mine too (not got the game on here to check). He is mostly just losing on Star Maker but is having some success in The Eurozone (my developmental). </p><p> </p><p>

War Machine and Brickhouse Balder (Big Guys Inc) and Patterson and Bantom (The Skyscrapers) I pretty much fully agree with you. War Machine and Bantom could both be main eventers (more so WM from what I've seen). Patterson and Balder don't offer too much. Whenever I need a big huge heel monster in the main event I'm sure one of the teams will split but I'm in no rush. War Machine is the only one in game who is close to main event. But I initially had big plans for Big Guys Inc but these have been put on hold, partly due to Balder being pretty awful, not decided yet what's going to happen really. </p><p> </p><p>

But I'll stop babbling on. Good luck continuing your head to head build!</p>

[michgcs]

Yeah, definitely wasn't counting on Buff Martinez (WHO?!) to win LOL <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/eek.png.0e09df00fa222c85760b9bc1700b5405.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="michgcs" data-cite="michgcs" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41685" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Yeah, definitely wasn't counting on Buff Martinez (WHO?!) to win LOL <img alt=":eek:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/eek.png.0e09df00fa222c85760b9bc1700b5405.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> I'm glad it was a surprise but I didn't expect it to be so shocking. But then again up to this point he's only really been 1 half of a tag team that haven't done anything too important. I think midnightnick was the only one who even put him in the final 4. </p><p> </p><p> So prediction contest is over! </p><p> </p><p> Thanks to the 12 people who have predicted over the course of it...</p><p> </p><p> <strong>So the top 5 were...</strong></p><p> Satry24: 24</p><p> Midnightnick: 21</p><p> Michgcs: 18</p><p> smwilliams: 15</p><p> knowyourenemy: 13</p><p> </p><p> So congratulations to satry24!</p><p> </p><p> Midnightnick will also get a prize, (mostly courtesy of Boltinho)</p><p> </p><p> Satry24 and Michgcs also get a small prize for being the two to predict on all 9 shows.</p><p> </p><p> To explain the prizes a little, I've written up to Head to Head (next ppv). So that will be posted like normal. I expect life to be quite busy for a bit (moving house and sort of starting a business actually) but I don't want this to slow down. So instead I'm going to do a month in review type thing just so I can keep it going in game, so the month will all be explained in 1 post but will hopefully be interesting. So the prizes are mostly guiding what's going to happen. But to avoid spoilers I'll PM the prizes.</p>

[michgcs]

<p>Congrats on the real-life changes, buddy. And good luck to both of 'em, too. May they be as un-stressful as possible! <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p>

Thanks for the prize, too. It's in your inbox <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[christmas_ape]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="michgcs" data-cite="michgcs" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41685" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Congrats on the real-life changes, buddy. And good luck to both of 'em, too. May they be as un-stressful as possible! <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> Thanks for the prize, too. It's in your inbox <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Thanks man, my job is super busy at the moment so I'm hoping in the long run the change will bring less stress but time will tell! </p><p> </p><p> So thanks to everyone for the prize responses. I've been happy with I think all the choices. </p><p> </p><p> I've decided that even though I'm busy I need to scrap the month in review idea, even if it takes me a little longer to post shows for a month or so, I know if this is going to last a long time I need to keep it up properly. I didn't have much planned for this month I'm playing in game as I saw Wicked as a fairly throwaway PPV but now I've gotten into it I think there is some cool moments in it and not posting them as full shows might not do them justice. So full shows it is! </p><p> </p><p> But any way the new prediction contest begins. This one will run for 9 shows (8 weekly shows but only 1 ppv as the previous winners will know some of the outcomes to at Wicked). </p><p> </p><p> <strong>Predictions</strong></p><p> </p><p> Following Buff's shock win at World War he has a big main event match to show everyone it wasn't simply a fluke.</p><p> </p><p> Who will Buff face?</p><p> And will he win?</p><p> Big Guys Inc vs Wade Orson and ???</p>

[Midnightnick]

<p>Who will Buff face? Dark Angel</p><p>

And will he win? No, it's going to be a No Contest</p><p>

<strong>Big Guys Inc</strong> vs Wade Orson and ???</p>

[michgcs]

<p>Who will Buff face? <strong>Umm... Jonathan Faust</strong></p><p>

And will he win? <strong>Yes, he has to, right? </strong><img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/eek.png.0e09df00fa222c85760b9bc1700b5405.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p>

Big Guys Inc vs <strong>Wade Orson and ???</strong></p>

[Satyr24]

Who will Buff face? Stevie Stoat

And will he win? Yes

Big Guys Inc vs Wade Orson and ???

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BEST OF BRITISH WRESTLING! 8

 

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[The Lloyd]

Woa!! Adam beating Buff was a shock to me!! Good show bud