ThunderVerse 2016 Diamond Release Thread

[bonnie]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="MHero" data-cite="MHero" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42555" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Sonny isn't stupid. <img alt=":(" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/frown.png.e6b571745a30fe6a6f2e918994141a47.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> Jesse is on the fix list, I get back to my desktop tonight so once I touch base with the team and see what has been done in my absence (Paris is lovely, everyone should endeavour to go at least once in their life), I'll see how we close we are to 1.03's release!</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> Im just bitter because he injured Big Bubba in my game ruining the storyline I had going where Terry recruited Bubba to help him remove Life Without Fear's domination of CWT. Enjoy Paris!</p>

[Ping von Erich]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="MHero" data-cite="MHero" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42555" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> Jesse is on the fix list, I get back to my desktop tonight so once I touch base with the team and see what has been done in my absence (Paris is lovely, everyone should endeavour to go at least once in their life), <em><strong>I'll see how we close we are to 1.03's release!</strong></em></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> <span>http://i.imgur.com/oZdjpIy.gif</span></p>

[Skywalker1976]

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[Skywalker1976]

Anyone else intrigued by HGC? Looks like the promotion to play in the Diamond version. Finally some real star power, booking wise similar to AWF and a cruiser weight division. I think booking HGC and challenging the other two big ones could be a lot of fun...

[The Celt]

<p>Being on honest, I wonder if HGC is a bit too similar to AWF, or maybe rather I should say <em>I find</em> them a bit similar. They're both glitz and glam promotions, both have bases in the South West, both are charisma and character driven promotions who are light touches when it comes to in the ring. </p><p> </p><p>

I mean, playability wise, HGC are very pick up and play. You've got TV, you've got PPV, you've got some bank, you can bring in who you like: If you want to go hunting the "Big 4" with them, you can. I say Big 4...HGC basically just replaced CWT in the Big 4. </p><p> </p><p>

I don't know, what do other people think?</p>

[Markw]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Celt" data-cite="The Celt" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42555" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Being on honest, I wonder if HGC is a bit too similar to AWF, or maybe rather I should say <em>I find</em> them a bit similar. They're both glitz and glam promotions, both have bases in the South West, both are charisma and character driven promotions who are light touches when it comes to in the ring. <p> </p><p> I mean, playability wise, HGC are very pick up and play. You've got TV, you've got PPV, you've got some bank, you can bring in who you like: If you want to go hunting the "Big 4" with them, you can. I say Big 4...HGC basically just replaced CWT in the Big 4. </p><p> </p><p> I don't know, what do other people think?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I mean in terms of product they're quite distinctive in that the AWF is a lot more violent/adult, Cult and Risque are both set as heavy, while HCG barely have any of either. The AWF is a bit of an attitude era style fed, but I'm struggling with them because while they've got some great workers for that style they've also got a lot of big stars that in mind just don't really fit - plus now an owner and head booker who don't either. I've been increasingly struggling with the AWF over the last couple of versions because they've got so much stuff going on, and so many conflicting styles that it feels very difficult to put it all together. HCG doesn't appeal to me personally, but they seem quite cohesive with a roster that really suits the product and a clear positive direction. I guess it depends how you see the AWF, but if I were playing an AWF game I'd phase out the likes of Hawk/Warrior/Giroux and a lot of the midcard and end up with a promotion that is stylistically a long way from the family-friendly HCG.</p>

[Bigpapa42]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Markw" data-cite="Markw" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42555" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I mean in terms of product they're quite distinctive in that the AWF is a lot more violent/adult, Cult and Risque are both set as heavy, while HCG barely have any of either. The AWF is a bit of an attitude era style fed, but I'm struggling with them because while they've got some great workers for that style they've also got a lot of big stars that in mind just don't really fit - plus now an owner and head booker who don't either. <strong>I've been increasingly struggling with the AWF over the last couple of versions because they've got so much stuff going on, and so many conflicting styles that it feels very difficult to put it all together. </strong>HCG doesn't appeal to me personally, but they seem quite cohesive with a roster that really suits the product and a clear positive direction. I guess it depends how you see the AWF, but if I were playing an AWF game I'd phase out the likes of Hawk/Warrior/Giroux and a lot of the midcard and end up with a promotion that is stylistically a long way from the family-friendly HCG.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Perhaps that is the intended challenge with the AWF - to find a way to make the mix work or decide on a particular focus.</p>

[Markw]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Bigpapa42" data-cite="Bigpapa42" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42555" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Perhaps that is the intended challenge with the AWF - to find a way to make the mix work or decide on a particular focus.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Oh I'm sure it is, and it presents a lot of interesting potential routes to take them. For me part of the problem is that I haven't got the patience to transition them the way I want to because it feels like something that needs to be done fairly slowly and I get sucked into a PWI or SUX game before I've made any inroads. It's an interesting challenge, but picking up a promotion with a clearer direction that I enjoy appeals more to me.</p>

[Bigpapa42]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Markw" data-cite="Markw" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42555" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Oh I'm sure it is, and it presents a lot of interesting potential routes to take them. For me part of the problem is that I haven't got the patience to transition them the way I want to because it feels like something that needs to be done fairly slowly and I get sucked into a PWI or SUX game before I've made any inroads. It's an interesting challenge, but picking up a promotion with a clearer direction that I enjoy appeals more to me.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm not certain it is intentional, but it would definitely make sense. And it would explain why the AWF has never grown as quickly as they seem capable of, despite a wealth of resources available. </p><p> </p><p> I know what you mean about wanting to transition gradually. That said, you can do it quickly. I don't love that approach either and generally prefer to take over a company and evolve it rather than make mass changes. But its been done in reality and happens in many other industries.</p>

[Markw]

I'm not certain it is intentional, but it would definitely make sense. And it would explain why the AWF has never grown as quickly as they seem capable of, despite a wealth of resources available.

 

I know what you mean about wanting to transition gradually. That said, you can do it quickly. I don't love that approach either and generally prefer to take over a company and evolve it rather than make mass changes. But its been done in reality and happens in many other industries.

 

I guess so, and the Dark Days scenario would be a good excuse to modify things quickly. I just also need it to feel realistic and I think with Chaperone/Richards/Skym/Prophecy all going and Chief/Grenier not striking me as necessarily being advocates of the style I'd be interested in implementing in an AWF game it'd feel unrealistic. If anything it looks more likely to go the other way to me. I do mean, at some point, to have a mess around in the editor and try and put things back to September 2015 so that I can have a play with different potential AWF owners and justify getting rid of some of the characters that don't fit in so well with the way I envision them.

[Lionhart]

All you guys gave me the desire to "reboot" AWF in my next game.

 

I'll definitely put Chase Paige as the new owner and make him use his position to re-start AWF "from scratch" with a new name, new titles, new shows, some roster shake up and so on.

 

I even hope that I would drop to Cult size shortly after just to make it even more interesting.

[Skywalker1976]

I see HCG more as a WCW 96 or early days TNA especially with a cruiser weight division which is something neither of the big two have.

[Tiberious]

Being on honest, I wonder if HGC is a bit too similar to AWF, or maybe rather I should say I find them a bit similar. They're both glitz and glam promotions, both have bases in the South West, both are charisma and character driven promotions who are light touches when it comes to in the ring.

 

I mean, playability wise, HGC are very pick up and play. You've got TV, you've got PPV, you've got some bank, you can bring in who you like: If you want to go hunting the "Big 4" with them, you can. I say Big 4...HGC basically just replaced CWT in the Big 4.

 

I don't know, what do other people think?

 

I agree with you in that I think HGC rise feels a bit out of nowhere. In Platinum they were hardly on the verge of great things, they were barely regional with Johnny Axe of all people in the main event. If HGC had huge financial backing I could sort of understand it, but they only had 250K in plat so it's hard to see how they had all this money for signing a ton of big names and dealing with the expenses of rising to cult. Realistically if I were to predict a 4th cult company in the US I would have guessed either CWT bouncing back, PWSUX rising based on the exposure from their AWF invasion, or a brand new company altogether.

 

I see HCG more as a WCW 96 or early days TNA especially with a cruiser weight division which is something neither of the big two have.

 

To me HGC feels a lot like TNA in the mid-to-late 00s when virtually all their stars were castoffs from other companies and their homegrown talent were secondary players. Of their six guys who auto-push as main event four of them weren't in HGC in plat, and only Riley Johansson can really be considered a star they made.

 

Now that I think about it Saul Keaton buying a stake in HGC, rather than CWT, would solve a lot of my complaints. Them getting a huge cash injection would explain how they were able to throw all this money around, sign big stars, create a dojo, and get TV and PPV deals.

[Markw]

I agree with you in that I think HGC rise feels a bit out of nowhere. In Platinum they were hardly on the verge of great things, they were barely regional with Johnny Axe of all people in the main event. If HGC had huge financial backing I could sort of understand it, but they only had 250K in plat so it's hard to see how they had all this money for signing a ton of big names and dealing with the expenses of rising to cult. Realistically if I were to predict a 4th cult company in the US I would have guessed either CWT bouncing back, PWSUX rising based on the exposure from their AWF invasion, or a brand new company altogether.

 

 

 

To me HGC feels a lot like TNA in the mid-to-late 00s when virtually all their stars were castoffs from other companies and their homegrown talent were secondary players. Of their six guys who auto-push as main event four of them weren't in HGC in plat, and only Riley Johansson can really be considered a star they made.

 

Now that I think about it Saul Keaton buying a stake in HGC, rather than CWT, would solve a lot of my complaints. Them getting a huge cash injection would explain how they were able to throw all this money around, sign big stars, create a dojo, and get TV and PPV deals.

 

I think it was done quite plausibly. Their rise really seems to be the result of a combination of CWT's money problems and the fact that lots of those who fell out with AWF management have very few options. Shane Allman's anti-Sports Entertainment crusade meant he wouldn't take lots of them, CWT had major money issues and PWSUX were inevitably going to come off worse as a result of their alliance with the AWF because they had great talents to be poached and nothing to offer to keep them. Herculez/Hollywood/James (if AWF didn't want him) would have had no better options and have enough name value to lift them. Couple that with a family friendly product that unlike CWT/SUX lends itself to TV/PPV/Sponsorship and I think it makes all kinds of sense.

 

At the time of Platinum HCG were a young promotion with clear positive promotion, CWT and SUX were old promotions who'd both just lost some of their biggest stars. They're still 40-odd points behind the AWF in terms of popularity in all but two regions, yes because the way the game works you can sign big stars but they've still got a long way to go to be at that level.

[Tiberious]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Markw" data-cite="Markw" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42555" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>At the time of Platinum HCG were a young promotion with clear positive promotion, CWT and SUX were old promotions who'd both just lost some of their biggest stars. They're still 40-odd points behind the AWF in terms of overness in all but two regions, yes because the way the game works you can sign big stars but they've still got a long way to go to be at that level.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I was comparing where they were in Platinum, where HGC had 30 popularity in 2 regions and 0 across the rest of the country. Sure CWT and PWSUX also have issues, not denying that, but HGC was nowhere near the level to get National TV or PPV.</p><p> </p><p> I don't have a problem with HGC rising to cult conceptually, but the speed of it's growth is crazy. HGC were founded in February 2012, and in their first 2 1/2 years of existence they had managed to get up to just barely regional, but in the 17 months between platinum and Diamond they shot up from 30 to 60 popularity in those 2 regions and from 0 to 38 popularity in the rest of the country. That kind of growth would be incredible even if they had TV and PPV to begin with; which they didn't.</p><p> </p><p> Then again I'm probably (okay, definitely) overthinking things since it doesn't necessarily have to make sense. Each new edition of the data retcons some stuff, such as introducing new veteran workers who didn't exist in the last one, so there's no reason that a companies popularity/finances can't also be retconned; in the Diamond timeline HGC may have been well financed and on the verge of hitting cult from the get-go.</p>

[gbasalmon]

<p>A couple quick questions:</p><p> </p><p>

1. What is the definitive name for Hiroto Nori's unit in DIASPORA? It's referred to in profiles as both Elite Destiny and Jet Bash Destroy.</p><p> </p><p>

2. What is the proper setup for the broadcasting groups? It looks like the only one that's ready to go is Rising Sun. The rest (Paige-Global, CRASH, etc.) are empty.</p>

[Big Roguey]

Elite Destiny. Jet Bash Destroy was a working title.

 

Media groups are being fixed in 1.03 which should plausibly see a release on Sunday as Eastwood did one hell of a job whilst I was on holiday.

[Skywalker1976]

<p>This is how I see the challenge of each of the big 5 after taking a look at each roster. What do others think?</p><p> </p><p>

AWF: Reminds me a bit of WWE after the attitude era with some superstars leaving and the company in a search of a new direction. Should be an interesting challenge and I feel the company could take many different directions. Only Silva Dolla and South are below 35 in the main event scene but I feel with Cross, Nick Hart and Rollins the new generation will be taking over soon. </p><p> </p><p>

PWI: I am not a true expert but of course the big news is Curtis retiring and the Van Holts splitting up. Other than that PWI looks very healthy to me and in a good position with their main event being an average 32 years young and several younger stars ready to take the next step. I personally always struggle a bit with PWI as while in real life I would love to watch a promotion like PWI, in regards to TEW I sadly seem to enjoy booking pop>perf companies more...</p><p> </p><p>

Dragon: I have never played Dragon, so I am sure there are other experts who know more and better, but to me Dragon also looks quite healthy and have a mostly young main event scene. I would be interested if some others play Dragon and how they are being booked as I could see myself starting a game with them. I guess the big challenge would be if such a company could ever get to the top while staying true to their traditions.</p><p> </p><p>

HCG: I will definitely start a game with them soon. I like that they finally have a few real stars and with the financial backing they should be able to challenge AWF and PWI. I also like that with the American Wrestling Council and their cruiserweight division it makes them quite unique to book. </p><p> </p><p>

CWT: CWT will be my first game. They seem to be a tough challenge with the least star power and money plus being on a negative spiral for years. But I like the challenge of re-building them into a more modern version of southern rasslin' and I see them as a modern version of Smoky Mountain Wrestling. Defiantly the biggest challenge of the big 5 in the US.</p>

[bonnie]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Skywalker1976" data-cite="Skywalker1976" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42555" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>This is how I see the challenge of each of the big 5 after taking a look at each roster. What do others think?<p> </p><p> AWF: Reminds me a bit of WWE after the attitude era with some superstars leaving and the company in a search of a new direction. Should be an interesting challenge and I feel the company could take many different directions. Only Silva Dolla and South are below 35 in the main event scene but I feel with Cross, Nick Hart and Rollins the new generation will be taking over soon. </p><p> </p><p> PWI: I am not a true expert but of course the big news is Curtis retiring and the Van Holts splitting up. Other than that PWI looks very healthy to me and in a good position with their main event being an average 32 years young and several younger stars ready to take the next step. I personally always struggle a bit with PWI as while in real life I would love to watch a promotion like PWI, in regards to TEW I sadly seem to enjoy booking pop>perf companies more...</p><p> </p><p> Dragon: I have never played Dragon, so I am sure there are other experts who know more and better, but to me Dragon also looks quite healthy and have a mostly young main event scene. I would be interested if some others play Dragon and how they are being booked as I could see myself starting a game with them. I guess the big challenge would be if such a company could ever get to the top while staying true to their traditions.</p><p> </p><p> HCG: I will definitely start a game with them soon. I like that they finally have a few real stars and with the financial backing they should be able to challenge AWF and PWI. I also like that with the American Wrestling Council and their cruiserweight division it makes them quite unique to book. </p><p> </p><p> CWT: CWT will be my first game. They seem to be a tough challenge with the least star power and money plus being on a negative spiral for years. But I like the challenge of re-building them into a more modern version of southern rasslin' and I see them as a modern version of Smoky Mountain Wrestling. Defiantly the biggest challenge of the big 5 in the US.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I've mainly been playing as CWT, but I can advise wait til the update is up (few changes being made I think to fix some stuff), but Silverback is great SQ and potential to be a good worker (bring in his mentor Dr Texas i'd advise so he can keep developing quickly). You've got more than enough to get to cult easy while your guys develop, and once there you're still pretty good. Bring in a few talents (I get in Nathan Jordan and Alejandro Ignelias (sp) as they're both very good and have a strong friendship).</p><p> </p><p> Edit: Also PWI in my game dropped to cult because they lack star power to win the national battle and don't seem aggressive enough.</p>

[Big Roguey]

On the note about the update, it's packaged and ready to go but MHero.exe crashed last night and I'm not at my desktop until later.

[woody316]

How do I make use of the overlays. They all look really kool but I don't really know how to make ue of them in game

[Big Roguey]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="woody316" data-cite="woody316" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42555" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>How do I make use of the overlays. They all look really kool but I don't really know how to make ue of them in game</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> If you want to use them in games, you have to go into any photo editing software and put them on top of the worker you want to have the overlays.</p><p> </p><p> They have no in-game function, it's designed more for people who do diaries and such as it's an extra graphical boost. It's something that the team pride ourselves on really, releasing more than just the base mod & pictures.</p>

[Big Roguey]

TRUMPET NOISES

 

1.03 Download Link

 

Included is a change log of what we've done (it's even the copy I got when I got back, just as a little insight of the process for something like this). There is a separate size change log as well, it's fairly lengthy.

 

And because at least one person will ask, Scott Bingington is now Scott Capaldi. What, did you think we were just going to add the people originally cut as they were in Platinum?

 

EDIT: Had to fix an issue so even if you managed to download 1.03 before I fixed it, please re-download it. In case of wondering, the UPJ main Tag Team titles are at minimum size lightweight to accommodate Goto being lightweight but also being a champion. There was no way to make an exception for him (and he's not in the 230 - 260lb weight class) so they are at lightweight. Feel free to edit this in game as the "canon" is that they are for Middleweights and above and Goto is the exception to the rule.

[Peria]

<p>I decided to give this a shot. My goal will be simple, to conquer all the female promotions and create one all female mega promotion.</p><p> </p><p>

Never played an all women promotion so it should be fun.</p>

[bonnie]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="MHero" data-cite="MHero" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="42555" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>TRUMPET NOISES<p> </p><p> <a href="https://www.mediafire.com/?1ohd0821mr7w8gm" rel="external nofollow"><strong>1.03 Download Link</strong></a></p><p> </p><p> Included is a change log of what we've done (it's even the copy I got when I got back, just as a little insight of the process for something like this). There is a separate size change log as well, it's fairly lengthy.</p><p> </p><p> And because at least one person will ask, Scott Bingington is now Scott Capaldi. What, did you think we were just going to add the people originally cut as they were in Platinum? <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> EDIT: Had to fix an issue so even if you managed to download 1.03 before I fixed it, please re-download it. In case of wondering, the UPJ main Tag Team titles are at minimum size lightweight to accommodate Goto being lightweight but also being a champion. There was no way to make an exception for him (and he's not in the 230 - 260lb weight class) so they are at lightweight. Feel free to edit this in game as the "canon" is that they are for Middleweights and above and Goto is the exception to the rule.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Heck yeah! Time to start the CWT diary i've been planning (if I can make it look ok, since i've never written a diary before and am not known for my graphics prowess)</p>