southside_hitmen Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 CURRENT RELEASE July 2019 Official Release (v1.0) JULY 2019 DATA (v1.0) *Updated 02/07/2019* PEOPLE PACK *Updated 30/06/2019* LOGO'S BELTS ETC *Updated 30/06/2019* Next Release TEW 2020 Previous Releases: April 2019 February 2019 November 2018 RELEASE NOTES - Updated the top ~350 or so USA popularity for workers - Updated Match Type ratios for every company to reflect real-life match types - Updated Popularity settings for every company based on attendance/viewership - Rescaling of ratings for all workers so they fit expected distribution similar to CVerse16x to enhance playability based on community feedback - Updated titles and lineages for all companies through June 30, 2019 - Fleisch has gone and added about 350 tag team names that make a ton of sense by region and such so that you/the AI should have some better naming as teams are created once starting your save - I went through and added moves and updated movesets for every G1 competitor (plus gave NJPW a once over in general) so if you want to give NJPW a proper run during G1 time, this release will be your jam. - Added in some match types to fill some gaps in the defaults, will probably do more here for the full release on Tuesday - ~300+ additional edits not listed below WHAT THIS MOD IS This is the official continuation of Fleisch's excellent "Real World Chronicles" current day mod. Fleisch will be releasing his final data update in August 2018, at which point I will be taking over the updating of his Real World Chronicles mod. I would be remiss if I didn't give a gigantic thank you to Fleisch for the work he has put into this mod over the last 5 years. This game would not move near as many copies and give us all the hours of enjoyment it does without his work. I am happy that Dr_Avalanche and I were able to assist when we could in the later stages, but the basis of this mod is and always will be a testament to the effort Fleisch put in. I hope I speak on behalf of the community when I say THANK YOU! Thank you for entrusting me with continuing your efforts and I hope to do you proud! (Hopefully I don't screw it up too bad) WHAT THIS MOD IS NOT This is not a monthly release mod - This mod will continue in the Fleisch tradition of releasing every three months so that I can take some "bigger" swings on global updates to the mod. This mod will not have every worker/company in existence - This mod will stick to ~2500 workers and ~60 companies so it stays performant and limits the amount of data to update each release. For those looking for a monthly-release + every company mod, TheWho87 has a great monthly released mod here. WHERE THIS MOD IS GOING Two words: Data Driven Going forward, this mod will be heavily modeled after DerekB's CVerse16x data in terms of worker stats and (to a lesser degree) popularity. This is done to ensure long-term playability of the mod and strike a fine line between overrating/underrating workers. The idea here is to have a mod that "self-adjusts" based on what happens in real life as much as possible. There are ~2500 workers and ~60 promotions to update each release so I am looking to automate as much of the work as I can. I'm a web developer/data analyst by trade, so anything that I can automate or give me a sanity check on when ratings get out of whack should help keep the mod fresh for each update. Worker stats will be modeled after how the game generates ratings and improvements for workers. You should see veterans with (in general) higher performance stats, rookies with lower respect ratings, etc... Again, the idea here is to give the game long-term playability. I will post more specifically on this topic as we get closer to a first release. You will likely see a little more Japanese/Joshi focus as well, as I'm a puro/joshi fan at heart (+ WWE). COMMUNITY FEEDBACK Polite, constructive feedback is welcome and appreciated. We have a great community on here and I am by no means the be-all-end-all expert on all-things wrestling. I'm happy to explain anything I can and will heavily incorporate community feedback into each release. Feedback that is rude or not specific will be ignored. Saying "why is worker x so low? Drrrrrrrrrrrr" is not helpful in any way. Please be as specific as possible when reporting things you see as amiss in the mod. PROMOTIONS INCLUDED * Card subject to change * AAW: Professional Wrestling Redefined Absolute Intense Wrestling * All Elite Wrestling [New] All Japan Pro-Wrestling Alpha-1 Wrestling ATTACK! Pro Wrestling Big Japan Pro-Wrestling Championship Wrestling from Hollywood CHIKARA Combat Zone Wrestling Consejo Mundial de Lucha Libre Desastre Total Ultraviolento DDT Pro-Wrestling Dragon Gate EVOLVE Wrestling Extreme Championship Wrestling (Historical purposes) Fight Club: Pro * Game Changer Wrestling [New] German Wrestling Federation House of Hardcore Impact Wrestling Innovate Pro Wrestling Insane Championship Wrestling Internacional Wrestling Revolucion Grupo International Pro Wrestling United Kingdom IWA: Mid-South Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide Lucha Underground Major League Wrestling * Marvelous [New] Melbourne City Wrestling New Japan Pro-Wrestling Northern Championship Wrestling Over The Top Wrestling OZ Academy Pro Wrestling Guerrilla Pro Wrestling ZERO1 Pro-Wrestling: EVE Pro-Wrestling NOAH PROGRESS Wrestling Revolution Pro Wrestling Ring of Honor SEAdLINNNG Sendai Girls' Pro Wrestling SHIMMER Women Athletes SHINE Wrestling Smash Wrestling The Crash Lucha Libre * Tokyo Joshi Pro [New] westside Xtreme wrestling World Championship Wrestling (Historical purposes) World Wonder Ring Stardom World Wrestling Entertainment WRESTLE-1 WWE NXT WWE NXT UK Maybe Inclusions (carry over from previous data): World of Sport Wrestling Fight Club Finland GBG Wrestling REINA THANK YOU'S Fleisch - Obviously Dr_Avalanche - For keeping my Joshi game on point Derek_B - For his excellent mod making guide and feedback joemurphy - For allowing his excellent SAMPP picture pack to be included The TEW Community - For your feedback and support CHEAP PLUGS If you enjoy the mod, feel free to take a look at some of the other items I partake in throughout the TEW universe southside_hitmen's CVerse Logos/Belts/Events - A rebranding of the CVerse companies that come with the game WIRE: Kings of Wrestling [CVerse - Multiplayer] - A multiplayer dynasty by @Uncrewed, @willr0ck, @HRTVAndrew and myself using CVerse companies Black Canvas Grappling: Dead Lions Do Not Roar [CVerse] - A trip into Cverse Puro MotR: Mothers of the Revolution [RW Multiplayer] - A multiplayer dynasty by @Uncrewed, @Dr_Avalanche, @MrWolf101 and myself using Joshi/women's companies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southside_hitmen Posted July 25, 2018 Author Share Posted July 25, 2018 Here is the updated list of new additions for July (doesn't include an additional 200+ edits to the current data) in the v0.9 update. New Additions for July 2019 below: Misc. Re-scale Top 350 USA Pop Default Tag Team Names redone Alter Ego Tiago (Mini Charly Manson) Announcer Experience Rich Brennan / Jim Cornette Broadcaster 5STAR Added B/R Live ITV 2 ITV 3 ITV 4 ITV Box Office Broadcasting Deal AEW/DirecTV IMPACT to 5STAR Company Marvelous That's Women Pro Wrestling Dojo Oz Academy Dojo Event AEW All Out AEW Fyter Fest Marvelous NOAH The Best Gimmick Librarian Hall of Immortals Beth Phoenix Sgt. Slaughter Location 115 Bourbon Street (Illinois, USA) Nices Arena Ringside Club (Dublin, Ireland) Tsuyuhashi Sports Center Match Type Battle Royal: 40 Man Battle Royal: 40 Man Lottery Battle Royal: 40 Man Mayhem Battle Royal: 50 Man Battle Royal: 50 Man Lottery Battle Royal: 50 Man Mayhem Battle Royal: 60 Man Lottery Battle Royal: 60 Man Mayhem Handicap 1 vs 4 Media Group ITV Digital Channels Ltd Move Akakiri Article 50 Banshee Muzzle Blade Runner Bloody Cross Cremation Lily Darkness Scorpion Death Rider End Game Hurrah! Another Year, Surely This.. Judas Effect Kamigoye Last Of The Dragon Last Ride-Style Tiger Driver Nomura Lock Orienteering with Napalm Death Perfect Stretch Pulp Friction Rounding Body Press Seitei Jujiro Storm Breaker Zack Driver Stable Bad Company (BT Gunn, Krobar & Stevie James) ICW Sugiura-gun Starting Absence Ronda Rousey Starting Injury Heidi Lovelace Jinder Mahal Marika Kobashi Mickie James Nia Jax Rey Mysterio Sierra Loxton Team Angélico & Jack Evans Best Friends Best Friends (AEW) Cody & Dustin Rhodes Daniel Bryan & Rowan Halal Beefcake (Idris Abraham & Joe Coleman) Highspot Heroes Jazzy & Jinny Jordan & Williams Jungle Boy & Luchasaurus Kabuki Warriors Kubota Brothers (ZERO1) Lucha Brothers (AEW) Medusa Complex (Charli Evans & Millie McKenzie) NEO Biishiki-gun SCU II SCU III The Aussie Experience (IPW:UK) The Dark Order The Hunt The Private Party The Purge The Viking Raiders (Ivar & Erik) WWE The Young Bucks (AEW) Title IWRG Rey del Aire WWE 24/7 Worker Ricky Martinez Ace Romero Added Brandon Kirk (CZW) Added Dan O'Hare (CZW) Added Hide Kubota (ZERO1) Added Kasey Catal (CZW) Added KC Navarro (CZW) Added Kit Osbourne (CZW) Added Yasu Kubota (ZERO1) Al Sabah (EVOLVE) Alex Marvez Amale Winchester (added to wXw) Ben Basden added to IPW:UK Black Mamba (Mamba in AAA) Bobbi Tyler added to IPW:UK, Stardom & EVE Brandon Cutler Hina (STARDOM) [sister of Hanan] Isiah Kassidy Joe Coleman (Smash) Jokey added to ICW (as Aivil) Kevin Beru (NCW) Krobar added to ICW Maria Takeda Marq Quen Mei Hoshizuki Mikoto Shindo Paxxo added to ICW Queen Maya Rina (STARDOM) [sister of Hanan] Sachiko Ito Sakura Hirota Saya Iida (STARDOM) Scott Hunter (SMASH) Stevie James added to ICW Tomoko Watanabe Tracer X (IPW) Worker Relationship Hanan / Hina Hanan / Rina Kenny Omega / Kota Ibushi KENTA / Katsuyori Shi Maria Takeda / Chigusa Nagay Mei Hoshizuki / Chigusa Nagay Mikoto Shindo / Chigusa Nagay Queen Maya & Jokey (Best Friends) Ricochet / Kacy Catanzar Rin Kadokura / Chigusa Nagay Rina / Hina set Natsumi Maki as protege of Yuna Manase Brandon Kirk & Kasey Catal (Engaged) Ricky Martinez is Angel Rose's (Impact Diamante) brother Ultimo Ninja & Mascara Purpura (Blood Relation) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southside_hitmen Posted July 25, 2018 Author Share Posted July 25, 2018 Ratings Submission Form So, something I've wanted to do in the lead up to the release is "crowd source" some skill ratings from all of you. If interested, you can fill out the form below and I will take the worker into account in the skill listed when rescaling the ratings for release. Before you begin, if you want a more in-depth explanation of each stat, you should check out Derek_B's excellent mod making guide from 2013 HERE The most important thing to note is that the skills should be reflective of how much each skill makes an audience CARE about what they are doing, not necessarily a willingness to do so. An example would be the Hardcore stat. Your standard CZW/BJW wrestler is more than willing to do hardcore/deathmatch matches (reflected in their personality in the liberal category) but shouldn't be at the level of a peak Mick Foley or Atsushi Onita in terms of making people CARE about what they are doing (FMW sold out 30,000+ seat stadiums for a reason). I've added a quick summary of each stat below (some descriptions stolen liberally from Derek's guide), as well as a few "archetypes" of practitioners of each form. I've deliberately left out active workers in the archetype section (for the most part) as to not influence who you pick. Feel free to fill out as many categories as you like (and add more than 5 if you want as well). --- GIF EXAMPLES --- For you visual learners out there Brawling: Puroresu: Hardcore: Chain Wrestling: Mat Wrestling: http://i.imgur.com/reRzLXg.gif Submissions: Aerial: Flashiness: Selling: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-YWjOJ83TmUo/VeETd0FP__I/AAAAAAAAi_k/VlDsyOR03rA/s1600/Selling%2Bthe%2BKick%2Bon%2Bthe%2BLeg.gif --- RATINGS FORM --- Brawling: Mostly old-school NWA/WWE Main Event style. This covers things like punches, any move with a "bomb" or "slam" in the name and standard suplexes. Archetypes - "Stone Cold" era Steve Austin, The Undertaker, Stan Hansen 1) 2) 3) 4) 5) Puroresu: Kicks, knees, elbows. Head drops or moves with "driver" in the name. Anything that would fit in to peak AJPW/NOAH would fit here. Archetypes - Kenta Kobashi, Toshiaki Kawada, Katsuyori Shibata 1) 2) 3) 4) 5) Hardcore: The fine art of weapons based matches. Onita-era FMW/ECW style. Archetypes - Mick Foley, Atsushi Onita, return from 33rd retirement era Terry Funk 1) 2) 3) 4) 5) Chain Wrestling: This is all about chaining moves together in sequence so there is no down time. Archetypes - Steamboat/Macho Man WM3, Meiko Satumura, peak William Regal 1) 2) 3) 4) 5) Mat Wrestling: Quite simply, this is about the ability to wrestle on the ground in a way that the crowd likes. Archetypes - peak Kurt Angle, Zack Sabre Jr, Hideki Suzuki 1) 2) 3) 4) 5) Submissions: The most important point here is that they work towards a submission finish (i.e. "Working a body part"). A worker having a submission finish (i.e. Cena's STF) shouldn't necessitate a high rating, but rather someone who sets up a submission throughout the match. Archetypes - Bret Hart, peak Kurt Angle, ROH-era Daniel Bryan 1) 2) 3) 4) 5) Aerial: This is all about high flying abilities… not just all the moves you can do (which could be covered by athleticism/flashiness) but how much the crowd can enjoy your matches as a result of what you can do Archetypes - Manami Toyota, Kota Ibushi, peak Rey Mysterio 1) 2) 3) 4) 5) Flashiness: "Holy $%!^" moments in wrestling. Ricochet/Ospreay matches Archetypes - Kota Ibushi, Ricochet, Will Ospreay 1) 2) 3) 4) 5) Selling: Making the impact of moves look good. It’s also about bringing in the effects of being hit by moves into the long term plan of a match. Archetypes - Curt Hennig, Ricky Steamboat, RVD 1) 2) 3) 4) 5) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southside_hitmen Posted July 25, 2018 Author Share Posted July 25, 2018 I've released these in my other CVerse graphics thread, but wanted to put these up here for all as well. This is a light grades only pack to use Observer style match ratings in your match grades. This will only work if you are using grades instead of numbers. Enjoy! Download Link Directions to install: 1) Download & Unzip The File 2) got to the "Skins" folder in your main TEW16 folder 3) copy and paste these into the "Graphics" folder Screenshots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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southside_hitmen Posted July 25, 2018 Author Share Posted July 25, 2018 Road To Initial Release - Journal 1 - Respect So, as we draw closer to release, I will be posting these journal entries to give you all some insight into the "how/why" of worker ratings in the mod. Think of these as a deep-dive/expansion of Derek_B's excellent mod making guide he posted in the 2013 forum. Anyway, on to Journal Entry #1 - Respect! Respect The respect rating plays a direct role in how much the worker will ask for in contract negotiations (in addition to their popularity and if a figurehead). It also determines if a worker is considered a Young Lion or not, which plays a huge role in Japanese companies. A Young Lion loses their YL status at D- respect (~35 rating). After leaving YL status a worker won't upset fans if they start to get pinfall victories. Respect goes up 0.4 for every show worked when a worker has less than 25 respect (and ALWAYS starts at 0 for new workers who haven't worked a match). It then goes up 0.3 for every show from 25 respect on until it reaches 53. It's capped at 53 and can only be improved beyond that with "good performances at important shows" (which I haven't quite cracked how the game translates). You need ~70 matches to reach 25 respect and ~170 to hit the "soft cap" of 53. When translating to a mod, remember the game does not "count" house show matches as actual ones for game stats. So, if you are creating someone from WWE, make sure you aren't counting house shows as "matches worked". The scale this mod will be using is below (slightly adjusted for the additional 4 weeks real world workers get compared to in-game). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxy Yasukawa Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Finaly someone giving Joshi some light ! Thanks for taking the job , I will be one of the players for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhawk8492 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Good luck dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oyaji Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 This sounds tremendous! Best of luck to you. Thanks Fleisch for all the years of hard work and for choosing a great person to whom you've passed off the reins! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shianne_EB Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 <p>Good luck man! </p><p> Also, one thing that's bothered me about these: Could you include WCPW/Defiant Wrestling in the mod? (Perhaps as an Closed promotion for those who don't really care) I'd love to play them tbh considering I'm a huge What Culture fan. Can't wait to play your continuation in November!</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southside_hitmen Posted July 26, 2018 Author Share Posted July 26, 2018 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Maxy Yasukawa" data-cite="Maxy Yasukawa" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45652" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Finaly someone giving Joshi some light ! Thanks for taking the job , I will be one of the players for sure</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Great to hear!</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Warhawk8492" data-cite="Warhawk8492" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45652" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Good luck dude</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Thanks!</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Oyaji" data-cite="Oyaji" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45652" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>This sounds tremendous! Best of luck to you. Thanks Fleisch for all the years of hard work and for choosing a great person to whom you've passed off the reins!</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Thanks!</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="CreeperGav" data-cite="CreeperGav" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45652" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Good luck man! <p> Also, one thing that's bothered me about these: Could you include WCPW/Defiant Wrestling in the mod? (Perhaps as an Closed promotion for those who don't really care) I'd love to play them tbh considering I'm a huge What Culture fan. Can't wait to play your continuation in November!</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> The companies that will be added/removed (if any) will be based on attendance and viewership numbers that I am pulling from a few different sources. The idea is to go through the current list of companies and confirm they are active and well-attended/viewed then make a call from there as to which ones to add/remove (as I want to keep the mod ~60 companies for performance purposes).</p><p> </p><p> There are 4-5 Japanese companies I have my eye on already for potential additions. I'll make sure to take a look at Defiant when it comes that time as well.</p><p> </p><p> As far as adding them as a deleted company, I'll likely not do that as it will bloat the data a bit. I would however be happy to work out what promotion settings would be for them if you want to add them to your own game world (if they aren't added here).</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tardelli Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 <p>Im really looking forward to this. Im a bit curious about Impact Wrestling. Is there a particular reason to not include them? </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Im not upset oder anything like that. Im just interested.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillyWillyWilly Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Well, there is one name at the company list that makes no sense. Global Force Wrestling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha2117 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Tardelli" data-cite="Tardelli" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45652" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Im really looking forward to this. Im a bit curious about Impact Wrestling. Is there a particular reason to not include them? <p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Im not upset oder anything like that. Im just interested.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Surely most of the last decade is the answer to that question?</p><p> </p><p> Seriously I assume it's in and just missed on the list. Lets not beat up poor old southside before he's even released any data. Save that for his first release when we can all jump on him and say how he's screwed up!</p><p> </p><p> Seriously Southside (and the people helping out) your efforts are very much appreciated.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southside_hitmen Posted July 26, 2018 Author Share Posted July 26, 2018 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Tardelli" data-cite="Tardelli" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45652" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Im really looking forward to this. Im a bit curious about Impact Wrestling. Is there a particular reason to not include them? <p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Im not upset oder anything like that. Im just interested.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="WillyWillyWilly" data-cite="WillyWillyWilly" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45652" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Well, there is one name at the company list that makes no sense. Global Force Wrestling.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="alpha2117" data-cite="alpha2117" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45652" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Surely most of the last decade is the answer to that question?<p> </p><p> Seriously I assume it's in and just missed on the list. Lets not beat up poor old southside before he's even released any data. Save that for his first release when we can all jump on him and say how he's screwed up!</p><p> </p><p> Seriously Southside (and the people helping out) your efforts are very much appreciated.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yeah, I just copy/pasted Fleisch's company list as a placeholder for now. I will be going through it in more detail at a future date.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek B Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 As I've already said prvately, I'm excited to see what you can bring to the mod for future updates on top of Fleisch's excellent work so far. Things are definitely going to be great. I suspect I'll have some free time in late August and most of September so if you are looking for someone to give some feedback on Impact Wrestling and Lucha Undeground (on top of WWE and NJPW, which I know you have covered), I could perhaps help out there. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerbrock100 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 I'm just happy this mod isn't going anywhere. I know me and alot of people exclusively use this mod so nice to see it's future ensured. I have no doubt you'll continue the great content of this mod while adding your own flavor to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollywood Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 The features you will be implementing should be awesome! Hit me up if you ever need help with the Ontario indie scene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southside_hitmen Posted July 27, 2018 Author Share Posted July 27, 2018 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Derek B" data-cite="Derek B" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45652" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>As I've already said prvately, I'm excited to see what you can bring to the mod for future updates on top of Fleisch's excellent work so far. Things are definitely going to be great. I suspect I'll have some free time in late August and most of September so if you are looking for someone to give some feedback on Impact Wrestling and Lucha Undeground (on top of WWE and NJPW, which I know you have covered), I could perhaps help out there. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Thanks Derek, that would be great! I will take any and all feedback you could provide. Impact isn't at the top of my watchlist usually so anyone with suggestions there or UK/Europe/Australia are welcome and appreciated!</p><p> </p><p> Forrest01 already sent me some copious notes on the UK scene in a PM I plan to incorporate as well (Thanks Forrest!).</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Powerbrock100" data-cite="Powerbrock100" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45652" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm just happy this mod isn't going anywhere. I know me and alot of people exclusively use this mod so nice to see it's future ensured. I have no doubt you'll continue the great content of this mod while adding your own flavor to it.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Thanks!</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hollywood" data-cite="Hollywood" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45652" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The features you will be implementing should be awesome! Hit me up if you ever need help with the Ontario indie scene.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Thanks! If someone is in the mod that you (and this goes for all reading this thread) know something about that isn't being represented properly feel free to post or PM it to me.</p><p> </p><p> I think for one of our big Japan updates that Dr_A and I helped Fleisch out on, I submitted 1,100+ notes on things to tweak (we did this through a shared google sheet), so suffice to say there is no such thing as too much information in my book!</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagrant Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 <p>I'm crap when it comes to stats probably but I'll throw in roster updates or such when I can when it comes to Evolve and Progress as they are two of the promotions I tend to follow regularly so you won't have to spend much time tracking down who have been regulars on their shows lately.</p><p> </p><p> Speaking of which Matt Striker has replaced Rich Boccini as color commentator in MLW.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southside_hitmen Posted July 27, 2018 Author Share Posted July 27, 2018 I'm crap when it comes to stats probably but I'll throw in roster updates or such when I can when it comes to Evolve and Progress as they are two of the promotions I tend to follow regularly so you won't have to spend much time tracking down who have been regulars on their shows lately. Speaking of which Matt Striker has replaced Rich Boccini as color commentator in MLW. Also, If you need any help with worker stats (Particularly WWE/NXT - I don't watch much else aside from an episode or two of Impact every once and a while) I'd be willing to pitch in. Awesome, would love the feedback! Really what I need in terms of feedback from people is what a person is best at. You don't need to say "Worker x needs to be 71 Selling" or anything goofy like that. Just saying "worker x is best at x, y, z" is extremely helpful to be able to ensure a worker is rated semi-correctly. Actually that reminds me about something I wanted to touch on (pause for deep breath). This is a text-simulation based on numbers of a psuedo-sport that is more art than science. Wrestling on the whole is a SUBJECTIVE entertainment endeavor and release for the people who watch it. I WILL be biased (unintentionally) on certain workers (one of my TEW Dynasty roster overview entries start off with "There are good wrestlers. There are great wrestlers. And then there is Meiko Satomura"). I have never watched a wXw show in my life and don't plan to. Workers will be rated "wrong" in the eyes of some (maybe all). Again, taking a data perspective here I'm trying to mix community feedback, personal bias, and TEW game mechanics to come up with a mod that passes the "sniff" test for most people who play it. The goal of this mod is not necessarily to get the "right" stats for each worker, but what is important is to get the "scale" of ratings right. WWE should not be popping A shows on RAW every week, this isn't 1999 Stone Cold era WWE. Jigsaw (my 2000's Chikara fan-self be damned) should not have ratings like Kenny Omega. Scale is far more important than rating. Big E should not have a higher Aerial rating than Will Ospreay (and doesn't). To this point, Fleisch has actually done an outstanding job of keeping worker ratings not only reasonable, but actually in-line pretty-much with CVerse stats that the game ships with. There are exactly 0 workers in the mod with a A rating in Top Row (brawling, Puro, Submission, etc...) which allows your performance skills to show through. Why this is important is quite frankly for playability first and foremost. The game generates ratings a certain way. My hope for this mod going forward is to continue down the path Fleisch has set out in that ratings matter, but it is far more macro than micro in terms of who is rated what. All that to say, however you feel about your ability to "rate" workers your comments/feedback can always (and should) be accompanied with some color in your comments on things like "worker x is one of the best brawlers in the world today" which I can take in and scale appropriately to the rest of the game world. I have very high hopes for what this mod will be able to produce from a ratings standpoint (and being a "data guy" I think I have a good plan on how to get there - which I won’t bore you with the “how” right now). I just think it's important to look at things from a 10,000 foot level as much as possible to make sure the game world is balanced appropriately. So please, add your personal opinions on workers when appropriate. The feedback is not only appreciated but directly helps in the making sure the mod feels "right". \end mini-rant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattywood Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Speaking of which Matt Striker has replaced Rich Boccini as color commentator in MLW. No word yet on whether or not Rich's wife has put the blame on Tony Schiavone's 80s mustache. On a more serious note, I too am glad that this mod isn't going anywhere anytime soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankeeinky728 Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 A thank you to Fleisch for a great mod. This was my first real world mod I installed once I got back into TEW, and my favorite. I wish you southside much success continuing this mod.<img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuroJoshi Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Very very excited to see where you go with this Southside and from the times we've spoke I can't think of anybody better qualified. I'm also really happy that the mod has fallen to a massive joshi fan, excited to see what you do with that scene and quietly praying that one day Tokyo Joshi Pro makes it into the data <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southside_hitmen Posted July 29, 2018 Author Share Posted July 29, 2018 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Matt Shannon" data-cite="Matt Shannon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45652" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>No word yet on whether or not Rich's wife has put the blame on Tony Schiavone's 80s mustache. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> On a more serious note, I too am glad that this mod isn't going anywhere anytime soon.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="yankeeinky728" data-cite="yankeeinky728" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45652" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>A thank you to Fleisch for a great mod. This was my first real world mod I installed once I got back into TEW, and my favorite. I wish you southside much success continuing this mod.<img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="PuroJoshi" data-cite="PuroJoshi" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45652" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Very very excited to see where you go with this Southside and from the times we've spoke I can't think of anybody better qualified. I'm also really happy that the mod has fallen to a massive joshi fan, excited to see what you do with that scene and quietly praying that one day Tokyo Joshi Pro makes it into the data <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Thanks everyone!</p><p> </p><p> And PuroJoshi, I'll just leave this link here and see if you can figure out whether TJP is in: </p><p> <a href="https://twitter.com/itohrespectarmy/status/966851472427188224?lang=en" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/itohrespectarmy/status/966851472427188224?lang=en</a></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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