TEW2020 Discussion Thread

[Sudo_Nym]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="iruleall15" data-cite="iruleall15" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I feel like the pre internet era will be a magazine or newspaper cover most likely.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It does make sense that, if you're playing in a pre-internet era, you might learn of new workers because they're on the cover of a ragsheet or a PWI-equivalent, but it'll probably be inconsistent. It might give the game a cool flavor, though, because you might learn of a different set of wrestlers in each game. The possibilities are incredible, really.</p>

[Medina_Sod]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Sudo_Nym" data-cite="Sudo_Nym" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>It does make sense that, if you're playing in a pre-internet era, you might learn of new workers because they're on the cover of a ragsheet or a PWI-equivalent, but it'll probably be inconsistent. It might give the game a cool flavor, though, because you might learn of a different set of wrestlers in each game. The possibilities are incredible, really.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Pretty sure this isn't the purpose of the change, but I can see not even Derek will change your mind so...</p>

[shawn michaels]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="iruleall15" data-cite="iruleall15" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Dude you are seriously over thinking this.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Clearly he is. I have to agree. I think things were already clear with the entry and more clear they are with Derek's clarification. I do not see why this is being made into something it is not.</p>

[Sudo_Nym]

The entry specifically says that references to technology that doesn't exist has been removed for the sake of immersion. Everything I've posited is a natural extension of that statement, which Adam made himself. But fine, I'll drop it, since apparently people are getting annoyed by speculation in a thread that's specifically about speculating on the nature of game features as Adam announces them.

[Vladamire Dracos]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="WCGreyghost" data-cite="WCGreyghost" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Not sure how the game decides when I am playing. I usually play a heavily edited/customised version of either the DOTT or WOTI mods, and don't pay much attention to whatever date the game assigns...but I think most of those games start on Monday, Week 1, Current Year...I think if I wanted to use a different skin, I'd probably have to set it manually.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> that's an issue with the data you're using. In the Editor under "Database Info" you can set the "Game Start Date" Month/Year (so you'd start Monday, Week 1, of the set Month/Year). Every historical mod I've played from here have been set to the proper date. </p><p> This entry is saying that if you started a game in, say, 1983, instead of displaying the typical "Modern Website" appearance on the front page, it'd display a funky Apter "Magazine" style appearance. A game started in a mod set in 2001 would display a "Early Internet Website" appearance.</p>

[Arrows]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Adam Ryland" data-cite="Adam Ryland" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The game automatically chooses the appropriate screen based on the in-game date.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Can you choose one to be default if you prefer one over the others?</p>

[Teh_Showtime]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Arrows" data-cite="Arrows" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Can you choose one to be default if you prefer one over the others?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I imagine they are editable for skin makers and by that nature you could just replace the one you like most over the rest of the eras</p>

[Eidenhoek]

I'm not *as* keen on the angle tags only because I don't want to have to type to sort through the angle list.

[Idolized]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Arrows" data-cite="Arrows" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Can you choose one to be default if you prefer one over the others?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I mean at the end of the day all you have to do to replace any screen is to swap file names.</p>

[BuddyGarner]

Hopefully with the perception system there'll be changes to momentum too which is really easy to game and move around with only the turn system.

[Paul_Heyman_Guy]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Sudo_Nym" data-cite="Sudo_Nym" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The entry specifically says that references to technology that doesn't exist has been removed for the sake of immersion. Everything I've posited is a natural extension of that statement, which Adam made himself. But fine, I'll drop it, since apparently people are getting annoyed by speculation in a thread that's specifically about speculating on the nature of game features as Adam announces them.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> A+ trolling, bro. I was really hoping this would go on for at least another page. I can’t believe nobody pointed out that the entry specifically says “This doesn't change the functionality of the screen,” Maybe they all wanted you to keep going too?</p><p> </p><p> Anyway, I love this cosmetic change and I wish it could be patched into WMMA 5, especially since the default database is set in 2002.</p>

[themanhimself]

<p>Title Idea</p><p> </p><p>

I'ld like to see an option for a new tag rule. Either two or three workers to a team. The difference would be that when someone beats the team, he/she joins the team they beat. For example: workers A and B are the champs. They are challenged by Workers C and D. Worker C pins worker A. Instead of C and D holding the titles, the new champs are Workers C and B. worker B remains part of the champion team as he/she wasn't the one defeated. Perhaps this could be called a tornado title.</p>

[Eidenhoek]

<p>Oh, and if I'm using numbers, not grades, and no fog of war, <em>LET ME SORT BY NUMBER AGAIN.</em></p><p> </p><p>

I want psychology above 70, not "great".</p>

[CPBHBK]

<p>I really like these cosmetic changes they add so much immersion. For me I usually am in the 80's and find it so funny when articles about the internet pop up.</p><p>

This entry is fine as sunshine.</p>

[shawn michaels]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Paul_Heyman_Guy" data-cite="Paul_Heyman_Guy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>A+ trolling, bro. I was really hoping this would go on for at least another page. I can’t believe nobody pointed out that the entry specifically says “This doesn't change the functionality of the screen,” Maybe they all wanted you to keep going too?<p> </p><p> <strong>Anyway, I love this cosmetic change and I wish it could be patched into WMMA 5, especially since the default database is set in 2002.</strong></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yes please. That and the ability to be able to future book fighters while they are still on rest (instead of not being able to book them, even it's for a year from now event, just because they have 12 more days to rest) would be a welcomed patch.</p>

[justtxyank]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="CPBHBK" data-cite="CPBHBK" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I really like these cosmetic changes they add so much immersion. For me I usually am in the 80's and find it so funny when articles about the internet pop up.<p> This entry is fine as sunshine.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Put me in this camp. Immersion changes are the things I was looking for the most (aside from revamping tag teams urgh!)</p><p> </p><p> -Really like the change to the title system by adding achievements. This has driven me crazy for years</p><p> -Change to indy wrestler of the year very welcome</p><p> -Venues/Location sounds really helpful</p><p> -This most recent change to the website. I've been so annoyed in the past reading about some guy on the internet in 1987 and what not that I've really quit viewing that front page all together</p>

[Henderson]

<p>I also hope we're able to restructure contracts. Too many times I've taken over a company where a worker has a straight-up ridiculous contract and I can't change it unless I go into the editor. There's also times you sign a worker thinking they're going to be huge but just don't turn out worth anything. You should be able to request to re-negotiate their contract. It happens all the time. Workers are able to just up and walk out or request their release, why can't we request to change a contract?</p><p> </p><p>

I also hope that you are able to mention workers who are on vacation. As it stands right now, if they're on vacation, you can't have them in an off-screen angle. This doesn't help if you're trying to kayfabe an injury as part of a storyline so rather than taking a morale hit for not being on shows, you give a guy some vacation time. Announcers can't even mention the worker. I think you should be able to involve them but really limit how they're perceived, whether that's strictly by overness or some other method.</p>

[shawn michaels]

And as corollary to the above, we should be able to do tribute angles to deceased workers (video angles and even people mentioning them) and structure tribute shows around them.

[Derek B]

I also hope that you are able to mention workers who are on vacation. As it stands right now, if they're on vacation, you can't have them in an off-screen angle. This doesn't help if you're trying to kayfabe an injury as part of a storyline so rather than taking a morale hit for not being on shows, you give a guy some vacation time. Announcers can't even mention the worker. I think you should be able to involve them but really limit how they're perceived, whether that's strictly by overness or some other method.

 

You actually can do that already... there is a little square next to an ange participant which is gold by default (I think?) and can be toggled... that should give you full access to everyone on your roster, though you may have to change the worker to be off-screen in the angle and you may also have to give them a push to anything other than "no assigned push".

 

It's awkward and clunky, but it can be done.

[Henderson]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Derek B" data-cite="Derek B" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You actually can do that already... there is a little square next to an ange participant which is gold by default (I think?) and can be toggled... that should give you full access to everyone on your roster, though you may have to change the worker to be off-screen in the angle and you may also have to give them a push to anything other than "no assigned push".<p> </p><p> It's awkward and clunky, but it can be done. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'll be damned....You learn something new every day! I can't believe I didn't know about this, thank you!</p>

[marsupial311]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="shawn michaels" data-cite="shawn michaels" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>And as corollary to the above, we should be able to do tribute angles to deceased workers (video angles and even people mentioning them) and structure tribute shows around them.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I think you can do this just fine without having the person "mentioned". Does Primo Colon talking about his memories of watching Randy Savage as a kid help him get over? If it's mentioned in the angle title that should be enough.</p>

[shawn michaels]

I think you can do this just fine without having the person "mentioned". Does Primo Colon talking about his memories of watching Randy Savage as a kid help him get over? If it's mentioned in the angle title that should be enough.

 

It's not about getting people over, it's about properly simulating these things, which does not happen right now in any acceptable way. At all. If I wanna do a tribute to Eddie Guerrero, (example) I can't really do it in any way other than pretending that he was mentioned by someone. Preferably someone over so that I can try and replicate his pop. It's almost outrageous, to be honest. The workers are still in the database after dying, so why not getting a non exploitable system to use them for such purposes after being deceased?

 

As for today's entry, it seems it's gonna be a week long deal for broadcasters, so let's see what comes out of it. Was hoping for broadcasters having the ability to grow as an announcement on the first entry about broadcasters, but let's wait and see.

 

Coverage limits being equal numerically might be interesting if said limits are done well. Meaning that to differentiate companies one only needs to adjust the size of said coverage instead of having to worry also with type. Seems this could facilitate mod making and understanding of the system, now that we can have access to the actual number of viewers that it equates to.

[marsupial311]

<p>I mean, non exploitable is the hard part apparently. You shouldn't be able to gain overness from just talking about a dead figurehead.</p><p> </p><p>

I assume (though it's not mentioned) that you can remove "internet" as an option based on the time period?</p>

[TeemuFoundation]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="marsupial311" data-cite="marsupial311" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I mean, non exploitable is the hard part apparently. You shouldn't be able to gain overness from just talking about a dead figurehead.<p> </p><p> I assume (though it's not mentioned) that you can remove "internet" as an option based on the time period?</p></div></blockquote><p> We can set opening dates for Broadcasters, I'm sure. So, in a historic mod, no Internet Broacasters would exist yet.</p>

[Teh_Showtime]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="shawn michaels" data-cite="shawn michaels" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> Was hoping for broadcasters having the ability to grow as an announcement on the first entry about broadcasters, but let's wait and see.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> This is already in 2016. The default data has multiple times where it happens, most notably to USPW.</p>