rman129 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 A man was buried alive at WrestleMania. I think modern wrestling sucks. Back in the 80s I actually liked wrestling but now it’s so fake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkereddy Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 I think modern wrestling sucks. Back in the 80s I actually liked wrestling but now it’s so fake. Why is Trent having a mom less realistic than a character like the Undertaker who literally has dark powers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Questlove Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Yes but it breaks kayfabe. WWE have a clown from hell who travelled through time, into John Cena's mind, tortured Braun in his sex dungeon swamp before drowning him only for him to return completely fine and who just abducted a woman for a week without anybody caring at all. They also have an antifa group that shows up and causes CHAOS and destroy property but sends in word ahead of time to let everybody know that they're coming because they're apparently very considerate??? Meanwhile, Trent has a mother. One side is breaking kayfabe here and it's not AEW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rman129 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 WWE have a clown from hell who travelled through time, into John Cena's mind, tortured Braun in his sex dungeon swamp before drowning him only for him to return completely fine and who just abducted a woman for a week without anybody caring at all. They also have an antifa group that shows up and causes CHAOS and destroy property but sends in word ahead of time to let everybody know that they're coming because they're apparently very considerate??? Meanwhile, Trent has a mother. One side is breaking kayfabe here and it's not AEW Be completely honest, who do you think breaks kayfabe more? NXT or AEW? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rman129 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Be completely honest, who do you think breaks kayfabe more? NXT or AEW? And for the record, orange Cassidy is an insult to the wrestling business, and if you try and tell me he is normal and isn’t breaking kayfabe, something isn’t right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkereddy Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 And for the record, orange Cassidy is an insult to the wrestling business, and if you try and tell me he is normal and isn’t breaking kayfabe, something isn’t right. How? His soft kicks aren't actually implied to hurt, and the moves he does are legitimate moves. His gimmick is that he doesn't care. Why's that break kayfabe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLLK Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 And for the record, orange Cassidy is an insult to the wrestling business, and if you try and tell me he is normal and isn’t breaking kayfabe, something isn’t right. He’s awesome because he isn’t normal. Pro wrestling has been around for nearly a century, heaven forbid people try something different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rman129 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 He’s awesome because he isn’t normal. Pro wrestling has been around for nearly a century, heaven forbid people try something different. He’s mental. Do you know anyone who is as idiotic and lazy as him? No you don’t! Who do you think breaks kayfabe more? NXT or AEW? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Questlove Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Be completely honest, who do you think breaks kayfabe more? NXT or AEW? NXT, obviously? See: every single time someone goes up to the main roster and everybody comes out to applaud and hug them. "In professional wrestling, kayfabe is the portrayal of staged events within the industry as "real" or "true", specifically the portrayal of competition, rivalries, and relationships between participants as being genuine and not staged." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkereddy Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 He’s mental. Do you know anyone who is as idiotic and lazy as him? No you don’t! Who do you think breaks kayfabe more? NXT or AEW? Yeah, he's lazy. That's his gimmick. It's more over than anything NXT has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MightyDavidson Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 And for the record, orange Cassidy is an insult to the wrestling business, and if you try and tell me he is normal and isn’t breaking kayfabe, something isn’t right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted August 10, 2020 Author Share Posted August 10, 2020 He’s mental. Do you know anyone who is as idiotic and lazy as him? No you don’t! Who do you think breaks kayfabe more? NXT or AEW? If you don't like it, don't watch it. Stop being so dramatic ya frikkin child Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkereddy Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 He’s mental. Do you know anyone who is as idiotic and lazy as him? No you don’t! Who do you think breaks kayfabe more? NXT or AEW? You said you liked the 80s. Do you know anyone who is as patriotic and jacked up as Hogan? Do you know anyone who is as massive and scary as Andre? Do you know a cop who wrestles like Bossman? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLLK Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 He’s mental. Do you know anyone who is as idiotic and lazy as him? No you don’t! Who do you think breaks kayfabe more? NXT or AEW? wow, someone didn’t watch the debate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rman129 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 wow, someone didn’t watch the debate Heck yeah, and I’m proud of it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkereddy Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Heck yeah, and I’m proud of it! Last week AEW drew 150,000 more viewers than NXT, and they have won the ratings battle 35/45 times. I guess the general public doesn't care about kayfabe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLLK Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Heck yeah, and I’m proud of it! that 50+ demo is rock solid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MightyDavidson Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Last week AEW drew 150,000 more viewers than NXT, and they have won the ratings battle 35/45 times. I guess the general public doesn't care about kayfabe. I honestly believe rman is confused as to what kayfabe actually is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted August 10, 2020 Author Share Posted August 10, 2020 I honestly believe rman is confused as to what kayfabe actually is. I'm under the impression he's a preteen or teenager trying to be edgy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalton Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 WOW I missed a good conversation lol. To add my two cents, wrestling in the 2010s onward is fundamentally different, by design. The internet and social media changed the industry as a whole, for the better IMO. Back in the day you'd never have wrestlers be interviewed and discuss why something happened, but that's simply not the case now. The advent of the internet, specifically social media, forced wrestling to become self aware. The 4th wall was dismantled brick by brick. The performers are aware that the audience is aware of the nature of it. That's why some AEW storylines are like that. Modern wrestling NEEDS silliness and self awareness to keep the audience. Don't treat the audience like they are children and/or stupid. That's why AEW has been successful and why people like Orange Cassidy are so over. Hell, even Chris Jericho adapted and references his old characters and calls himself the Demo God. If you don't like it anymore then hey that's your preference. However, it is never... EVER going back to the strict kayfabe of times past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 AEW was built on the back of The Elite and their show Being the Elite. The success of BTE was built on taking viewers backstage and "exposing the business." Except it was already exposed decades ago to everyone but young kids and ignorant casual viewers who hadn't figured it out yet. Even back in the 50s there were news articles calling out wrestling promotors for "fixing fights" lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MightyDavidson Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 AEW was built on the back of The Elite and their show Being the Elite. The success of BTE was built on taking viewers backstage and "exposing the business." Except it was already exposed decades ago to everyone but young kids and ignorant casual viewers who hadn't figured it out yet. Even back in the 50s there were news articles calling out wrestling promotors for "fixing fights" lol. And let's not forget that Vince McMahon himself admitted that it was fake. I think it was around Wrestlemania 4 or so when he did it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Self Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 I dont know if wrestling "needs" to be so silly. Everyone knows movies are fake, but not every successful movie breaks the fourth wall. Some do. Superhero movies in particular constantly stop the action for meta moments or post modern references or tension breaking jokes. And the action is silly and goofy and fake. AEW is going for that audience. But theres another audience. There's an audience for serious wrestling. By which I mean not being slapped in the face with "it's fake lol" constantly. Let me enjoy the drama without tension breaking quips or spiderman referencing star wars or modern wrestlers quoting undertaker from 20 years ago to try to get a pop. Theres room for both fans. Neither side is going to change the mind of the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 - Leva & Chanel vs Swole Family was solid. Nicole Savoy would be a great pickup. The division could really use an experienced technical wrestler. - Ellering & Dasha vs Diamante & Ivelisse was solid. It was cool that Dasha got to wrestle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mootinie Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="milamber" data-cite="milamber" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46243" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Allin vs Cage would be for the FTW title. Shida vs Nyla would have a stipulation like Falls Count Anywhere or Last Woman Standing. I'm not keen on Cardona vs Cody if they copy the Spears heel turn to do it. I'd rather Scorpio get the rub or circle back to Archer. Should be Brodie & Cabana getting the tag title shot while Bucks fight FTR in a #1 Contender match. Also Britt vs Swole.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm hoping they hold off on Bucks vs. FTR until they have the crowds back and I think there's a lot more story in the pipeline to build that particular match instead of doing it here.</p><p> </p><p> Part of me wants to believe that AEW believe in the tag division so much that they'll want to do a bumper match of this sort like the time the old NWA/WCW had Steve Williams & Bam Bam Gordy go on last against The Steiners. </p><p> </p><p> Something about Hangman switching alliegances, FTR getting coached by Arn and Tully as the more favourable tag team in AEW because of their old-school ways and then building it until you can feasibly headline a PPV with that match with some hella raised stakes. Maybe do Hangman vs. Omega on the same card? Maybe have FTR go in as defending Champs with The Young Bucks still not having held the AEW tag titles yet?</p><p> </p><p> I'm getting all excited now. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> I think they have something special with FTR vs. The Young Bucks and I guess my only hope is they don't run it on an empty arena show when you could have an absolutely electric crowd behind it. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.