PGHW Thread - No More Pillars (PGHW Discussion Thread)

[jesseewiak]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lr10540" data-cite="lr10540" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47647" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>So what would you do with Kitoaji in the months leading up to the eventual Jimbo match? Does the champion essentially get to pick his next opponent? How many singles matches would a guy like Jimbo get inbetween title defenses? Is it all exclusively tags up until the actual defense?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> There's a slight difference between 'old school' NJPW/AJPW and the more recent New Japan and you've got to decide what you want to. In the past, winning the G-1 was just a big accomplishment and no guarantee you'd get the Tokyo Dome main event. </p><p> </p><p> In the past few years though, first unofficially, and now, officially, the G-1 is for the title shot at the Tokyo Dome, and whomever wins the Tokyo Dome title shot ends up defending it once or twice, either against either people that beat them during the G-1, past opponents, or stable mates of the champion. </p><p> </p><p> When it comes to who gets title shots, again, it's a mix of things - what usually happens now in NJPW is the champion wins their match, is celebrating, when somebodies music hits and they come out and challenge the champion for the next big show. Usually, that person has won a big-ish match earlier in the show, or maybe has done something during the tour to be in competition with the champion. </p><p> </p><p> So, again, to use the example, Kitoaji faces somebody who maybe only barely lost to him, or somebody who beat him earlier in the year for the title shot, or he has a tune-up tag match against stablemates of Jimbo. While at the same show Kozue goes over Ugaki. Then, after Kitoaji wins his match, Kozue comes out and challenges him, either officially or in a way where Kozue beats him, honor would dictate Kitoaji giving up his title shot. </p><p> </p><p> At the same time, you can have a short angle on the first post-G1 card where Kobe officially challenges Jimbo, then after that match, PRIDE Kosio comes out to challenge Jimbo next. </p><p> </p><p> Does that all make sense?</p>

[lr10540]

There's a slight difference between 'old school' NJPW/AJPW and the more recent New Japan and you've got to decide what you want to. In the past, winning the G-1 was just a big accomplishment and no guarantee you'd get the Tokyo Dome main event.

 

In the past few years though, first unofficially, and now, officially, the G-1 is for the title shot at the Tokyo Dome, and whomever wins the Tokyo Dome title shot ends up defending it once or twice, either against either people that beat them during the G-1, past opponents, or stable mates of the champion.

 

When it comes to who gets title shots, again, it's a mix of things - what usually happens now in NJPW is the champion wins their match, is celebrating, when somebodies music hits and they come out and challenge the champion for the next big show. Usually, that person has won a big-ish match earlier in the show, or maybe has done something during the tour to be in competition with the champion.

 

So, again, to use the example, Kitoaji faces somebody who maybe only barely lost to him, or somebody who beat him earlier in the year for the title shot, or he has a tune-up tag match against stablemates of Jimbo. While at the same show Kozue goes over Ugaki. Then, after Kitoaji wins his match, Kozue comes out and challenges him, either officially or in a way where Kozue beats him, honor would dictate Kitoaji giving up his title shot.

 

At the same time, you can have a short angle on the first post-G1 card where Kobe officially challenges Jimbo, then after that match, PRIDE Kosio comes out to challenge Jimbo next.

 

Does that all make sense?

 

It does, it's all so different from anything I've ever seen so it's hard to picture. Outside of tournaments and titles, are singles matches essentially only used for grudge matches?

 

I've also seen some NJPW stuff on their youtube. Kevin Kelly did a 6 part series I think on Chaos, and it seems very American in terms of their non-wrestling antics. Bullet Club was similar. Lot of post match beat downs, lot of screwy finishes with stable mates interfering. Is this a relatively new thing?

[jesseewiak]

It does, it's all so different from anything I've ever seen so it's hard to picture. Outside of tournaments and titles, are singles matches essentially only used for grudge matches?

 

I've also seen some NJPW stuff on their youtube. Kevin Kelly did a 6 part series I think on Chaos, and it seems very American in terms of their non-wrestling antics. Bullet Club was similar. Lot of post match beat downs, lot of screwy finishes with stable mates interfering. Is this a relatively new thing?

 

In general, yes. Single matches outside of title matches are either only happen at the big shows for grudges and/or dream matches - (ie. you hire one of Burining Hammer's big stars, etc.).

 

On your standard tour show in Hiroshima, it'd be all tags and six mans.

 

So, the screwy finishes is interesting. Time for a mini history lesson.

 

From the beginning of Japanese wrestling to basically the late 80's/early 90's, Japanese wrestling was booked like any US territory - lots of DQ's, DCO's between stars, etc.

 

But, then Giant Baba (owner/booker of All Japan) decided to go with all clean finishes, and that started a boom for that company and even though New Japan never went as far as All Japan did with all clean finishes, they also became less likely to do a DCO or weird finish to end a show. Even putting that aside, outside of finishes, New Japan still did more entertainment-like angles including post-match brawls, attacks, etc. but since your average American tape trader in the late 90's was only watching top-tier All Japan matches that all had clean finishes and New Japan juniors which were all clean finishes, there became this myth that all Japanese feds were all clean finishes and 'respectful' wrestling.

 

In the late 2000's/early 2010's, first the rise of CHAOS, then the Bullet Club started a return to interference matches, more post-match beatdown, etc. However, in recent years, with the changes to the Bullet Club, and a slight backlash from the Japanese fans, that's been scaled back. However, IRL, Naito won at the Tokyo Dome, the big angle was KENTA coming in, attacking him, and kicking the crap out of him. Which led to a sellout at the next major show, even though KENTA hasn't had the best run in New Japan prior to that.

 

So, what I would do, is look at the products of the company and go from there. In general, you probably can't do DQ/CO finishes without fans getting upset, but if you can likely have a heel unit do a beatdown and it not get terrible ratings if it's short. Also remember, that 90/10 or 100/0 split for matches and angles has a 15% cushion, but no matter the percentage, they likely won't want any 10 minute long angles.

[PW_Fandom]

I've also seen some NJPW stuff on their youtube. Kevin Kelly did a 6 part series I think on Chaos, and it seems very American in terms of their non-wrestling antics. Bullet Club was similar. Lot of post match beat downs, lot of screwy finishes with stable mates interfering. Is this a relatively new thing?

 

Keep in mind the countdown specials are designed to draw in western audiences to new japan world so are framed in a certain way and are generally a long period of time condensed down into a short episode giving the impression these post-match antics are more regular than they actually are in practice, it's not like every single tour night is going to end in a faction beat down.

[lr10540]

This is all great stuff. Now for an in-game question. If the tour shows basically allow you to tread water, pop wise, does that mean your only real chance to grow your company is through your PPV shows? How many tour shows would get you a point in pop? I've gone through the thread and seen the metrics of needing a rating 17 points higher to gain any pop and 24 for max pop gain, but I'd have to assume these are around .1%.

 

I just converted the CV97 mod and gonna give PGHW a go!

[Infernalmiko]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="lr10540" data-cite="lr10540" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47647" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>This is all great stuff. Now for an in-game question. If the tour shows basically allow you to tread water, pop wise, does that mean your only real chance to grow your company is through your PPV shows? How many tour shows would get you a point in pop? I've gone through the thread and seen the metrics of needing a rating 17 points higher to gain any pop and 24 for max pop gain, but I'd have to assume these are around .1%.<p> </p><p> I just converted the CV97 mod and gonna give PGHW a go!</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> <span style="color:#4B0082;">You can gain little pop from tour shows, though only in the area you are holding it of course. It's also useful to ad wear and tear in a tyle that is very physic al and intense. Maybe. The one thread that actually ran stats didn't seem to show a difference between tour shows and normal events in terms of injuries. Most matches in a tour show are where your canny ops will be taking the night off though.</span></p><p><span style="color:#4B0082;"> </span></p><p><span style="color:#4B0082;"> 1980's puroresu had more cheap finishes and chaos, it was a way to let big names fight without either of them really having to lose. Then the UWF became a sensation with it's legit looking MMA style and only clean finishes. As so often happens, the other companies noticed this and started doing only clean finishes as well. In the 00's NJPW started easing back to teaching the crowd a few DQs are ok. Yano as a young lion lost every match by DQ. Then Taijiri and Iizuka lost by DQ when they were caught using the poison mist or metal hand. I've not watched NJPW the last couple of years, but at the time I was watching stuff like that was still just in the middle card. In main events the finish would still be clean.</span></p><p><span style="color:#4B0082;"> </span></p><p><span style="color:#4B0082;"> </span></p>

[CPBHBK]

Does anyone happen to have a PGHW Glory Junior Crown picture?

[DeBosco]

I finally finished up my first year with PGHW and here are my thoughts for anyone who’s curious.

 

Roster:

 

I have 8 major stars at the start of 2021: KitoGuchi, Danny Cavanagh, Kozue, Magnum Kobe, Masaru, Seiji and Emerald Angel. I’m assuming most players will more or less be similar other than Danny and Emerald, even though I have no idea why Danny is always white hot and over in my save because I don’t feel like I really push him intentionally. I brought in Emerald because he has always been one of my cverse favorites and had the idea that I might start a junior division, but then I started thinking about it more and thought that PGHW probably wouldn’t ever do that so I nixed the idea but still have a bunch of masked juniors on my roster lol. Oh well, in my head I’m viewing it as my user character (Nobuatsu) just giving them a chance and if they make it, then they make it.

 

Other notable guys on my roster are Heavy Artillery (Matthew Keith is another of my personal faves), SUKI (who is very, very good) and Logan Wolfsbaine (consistently 70+ match grades after month 5 or 6 working here). About half way through the year I got frustrated that my roster was too big so I ended up cutting loose James Diaz (big mistake, he doesn’t like my UC so probably won’t be returning) because he was just too green. I definitely recommend really taking a look at some of the young guys stats to make sure they are good enough before you bring them on, his match grades were just way too low to justify being on the roster. Other casualties of my roster cutting include: Sayeed Ali who actually fits very well, but I had too many prospects at the time (I will definitely try to bring him back in the future), Haranobu Kobayashi (mistake), Hirobumi Takimoto (mistake), Stone Yoshikawa and Hitomaro Suzuki.

 

I highly recommend increasing the number of road agents and referees on hand because they will often be overworked. I personally chose Mito Miwa and Yoshimi Mushashibo because they are PGHW HOF and will even pick up new proteges (Miwa mentors YL Nobuyo Hikichi for me). If you do bring in Mito, you might as well also bring in his brother, Akahito, because you have an extra broadcasting spot open and he is a free agent.

 

My MVP so far has been Kozue Kawashima who am in the process of making figurehead, his popularity in Japan is up to 74-81 (most areas 81).

 

Looking forward the guy I have my eye on is actually Bussho Makuguchi. His pop. In Japan is 75-80 (mostly 80) and he is another guy who is just always considered white hot. I have him in the process of getting more muscular (he starts the game with an average body) and if he comes back ripped with star quality at 90 or something (starts at 82) I am going to have to seriously consider breaking up KitoGuchi and putting the belt on him.

 

Titles:

 

Glory Crown: Kozue Kawashima (6 def.)

Glory Tag: KitoGuchi (9 def.)

International: SUKI (0 def.)

Six-Man: Orange Tsuchie, Tsuneyo Yanagimoto & Fujio Narahashi (3 def.) Added this belt in place of the Historical Japan title because I’ve just never been a fan of super low-level singles belts.

Elite Series: Magnum Kobe. I thought this would be a good way to really boost his popularity and cement him as a major star in the company.

Elite Tag Series: Above & Below. I had no idea they would win it and honestly wish they didn’t. But I like to go into tournaments without really knowing who is going to win and kind of let the matches play out and whoever has the most points at the end deserves it.

World Elite: Kozue Kawashima. An added tournament that had 32 participants using a single elimination format instead of round-robin. Granted Kozue the title shot that he eventually won the title with.

 

For those wondering how to set up the Elite Series, what worked well for me is making 2 blocks of 6, having an A and B block day and running the tour for 10 days. Everything lines up pretty well that way.

 

 

 

Stables:

 

I have no idea why PGHW doesn’t start with stables, it seems pretty odd to me. At the moment I have the following 5:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Finances and Schedule:

 

Currently I have $10.5 mil in the bank. This is largely because of a change in schedule I made that feels a lot like cheating. After looking at the comments in the thread I chose to change up the focus of the 3 tournament tours to have a ‘normal’ intent which obviously made me super rich. So in turn, I removed all broadcasting for those normal intent tours. In my head the reason we are selling out huge arenas is because if you’re not there you can’t see it so a bunch of people are flying in from all over to see the tournament play out lol. Not realistic, but the best I could do.

 

All the extra cash led me to create my own broadcaster with coverage outside of Japan. I think I am going to try to build up in the Eastern Hemisphere first before the West.

 

 

BHOTWG:

 

BHOTWG ended up taking Brute Kikuchi, The Ring Generals and Avalanche Takano which led to me declaring war on them. Unfortunately, they rose to Large size in November, but I should catch up soon enough.

 

Whew, sorry for the super long post lol.

[IWGP]

<p>I've just reached the start of July. First thing I did was introduced a loose face/heel divide and change the product to Silver Age, so I can keep an emphasis on the in-ring action, but also have gimmicks and storylines.</p><p> </p><p>

Kawashima is the current champion after winning the Elite Series and then dethroning Jimbo. Kobe is his next challenger after Kobe pinned him in the Elite Series block phase and Kobe also pinned Kitoaji on the undercard of Kawashima's title victory.</p><p> </p><p>

KitoGuchi are currently in a bit of a placeholder interpromotional feud with BCG's Torii and Funakoshi. Their initial tag match scored a 92 and Makiguchi is now the most over guy in the company (he also has a legendary rated gimmick). </p><p> </p><p>

Ugaki lost to Jimbo early in the year, lost the Elite Series final and then lost to Makiguchi in a singles match, which sent him over the edge and he has become more violent and sadisitic. He formed a stable known as 'DEMOLITION' with the aim of destroying PGHW, the faction is mainly made up of bitter midcarders like Eien Miyamoto and heel Gaijin like Reaver and William Hayes. </p><p> </p><p>

I have other stables, which are the Kawashima-led 'Fearless' (Kawashima, KitoGuchi, Gakusha, Okamoto and Yasuda) and the Kobe-led 'ACE' (Kobe, Kwakami, Muruyama, Yano and new signings Pretty Okakura and the former D.C. Rayne, Daniel X. Rayne). Jimbo also leads a loose alliance of the other babyfaces known as 'WarriorS', who are very much based on NJPW's CHAOS.</p><p> </p><p>

<strong>Champions</strong></p><p> </p><p>

Glory Crown: Kawashima (0 defences). Next opponent: Magnum Kobe</p><p>

International: Kazushige Matsuki (1 defence). Next opponent: Tetsunori Yasuda</p><p>

Historical Japan: Shogun Watoga (0 defences). Next opponent: SATO</p><p>

Glory Crown Tag Team: Beast & West (1 defence). Next opponent: SAISHO's Black Iron Corps</p><p> </p><p>

I also created a Young Lions Trophy, which was a 9-man round robin tournament. Nobuyo Hikichi won with Yuta Isono as the runner-up, so they've both been sent off on excursion to OLLIE.</p><p> </p><p>

<strong>Signings</strong></p><p> </p><p>

Gakusha left BHOTWG, so I signed him up as a veteran, solid upper card presence. D.C Rayne's USPW contract expired and since he was fairly over in Japan, he's been brought in on a handshake deal. Eddie Howard signed a three year extension, so Natural Storm are finished for the forseeable. Razan Okamoto has been brought in and immediately started putting on great matches and getting over and I have Lion Genji and Black Iron Corps in from SAISHO as a sort of mini-invasion storyline. Funakoshi and Torii are in on short term deals for their program with KitoGuchi.</p><p> </p><p>

BHOTWG have signed Brute Kikuchi and Dean Waldorf, which necessitated Kikuchi and Yano dropping the tag belts to B&W and then Ring Generals losing to Beast & West. </p><p> </p><p>

I've also created the All-Asia Alliance, between PGHW, SAISHO and EX2010, since a few of the workers are already working for all three. There's an All-Asia Heavyweight, Junior Heavyweight and PGHW Six Man Tag Team titles in the alliance, so those will float around the three promotions. I may extend the alliance into India and maybe Australia in the future.</p>

[BigINMoldova]

In general, yes. Single matches outside of title matches are either only happen at the big shows for grudges and/or dream matches - (ie. you hire one of Burining Hammer's big stars, etc.).

 

On your standard tour show in Hiroshima, it'd be all tags and six mans.

 

So, the screwy finishes is interesting. Time for a mini history lesson.

 

From the beginning of Japanese wrestling to basically the late 80's/early 90's, Japanese wrestling was booked like any US territory - lots of DQ's, DCO's between stars, etc.

 

But, then Giant Baba (owner/booker of All Japan) decided to go with all clean finishes, and that started a boom for that company and even though New Japan never went as far as All Japan did with all clean finishes, they also became less likely to do a DCO or weird finish to end a show. Even putting that aside, outside of finishes, New Japan still did more entertainment-like angles including post-match brawls, attacks, etc. but since your average American tape trader in the late 90's was only watching top-tier All Japan matches that all had clean finishes and New Japan juniors which were all clean finishes, there became this myth that all Japanese feds were all clean finishes and 'respectful' wrestling.

 

In the late 2000's/early 2010's, first the rise of CHAOS, then the Bullet Club started a return to interference matches, more post-match beatdown, etc. However, in recent years, with the changes to the Bullet Club, and a slight backlash from the Japanese fans, that's been scaled back. However, IRL, Naito won at the Tokyo Dome, the big angle was KENTA coming in, attacking him, and kicking the crap out of him. Which led to a sellout at the next major show, even though KENTA hasn't had the best run in New Japan prior to that.

 

So, what I would do, is look at the products of the company and go from there. In general, you probably can't do DQ/CO finishes without fans getting upset, but if you can likely have a heel unit do a beatdown and it not get terrible ratings if it's short. Also remember, that 90/10 or 100/0 split for matches and angles has a 15% cushion, but no matter the percentage, they likely won't want any 10 minute long angles.

 

 

That's not actually what happened though. Japan has had a reputation for clean finishes because of the UWF. Akira Maeda, Nobuhiko Takada, and Satoru Sayama left New Japan to form a company called the UWF and the UWF was a shoot style promotion. It presented wrestling as legitimate, it was basically Bloodsport before Bloodsport.

 

Well, the UWF in the 80s started out drawing NJPW and AJPW and one of the reasons for that was because of the lack of dirty finishes in the UWF. The UWF was a start-up company outdrawing the industry titans and so in order to compete with that, AJPW and NJPW abandoned screwjob finishes because they were afraid that if they kept doing them all of their fans would just leave for the UWF.

 

Eventually, the UWF would collapse because of the egos of the three men involved but then it would return as UWFI which would also collapse/turn into Pride FC.

 

That's actually why dirty finishes are so rare in Japan. Yes, AJPW had dirty finishes in the 80s and they were very similar to JCP during that time period but the UWF revolutionized the way wrestling is run in Japan and a lot of things that they invented have been adapted by successor promotions.

[IWGP]

<p>Hirotsugu Satou must have an insane destiny roll in my game. I'm in February 2021 and I've had at least six major stars offer to put him over.</p><p> </p><p>

Problem is, when he was heel, I kept getting heels offering to put him over and now he's face, faces keep offering.</p>

[Dalton]

<p>I've spoken about it a zillion times on the forums but the most fun I've ever had in TEW is with United Promotions Japan in the ThunderVerse, which lasted from 2016-mid 2022 before the new game came out. I spent HOURS a day on that, planning out meticulous details for a personal game <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> every tour show, every tournament match, every storyline was crafted in excruciating detail because that's what made it fun!</p><p> </p><p>

Now with the T-Verse probably a few months away if not more, I'm looking to start a long-term puro game in the C-Verse for the first time in ages. I haven't played PGHW in depth since TEW2010 I think? </p><p> </p><p>

My goal here is to keep them as close to the PGHW style as possible, while taking some inspiration of NJPW with scheduling and all that.</p><p> </p><p>

Anyways, I'm looking for some pointers before I dive too deep into it. I'm about to start crafting a spreadsheet but I want to ask a few basic questions before I start:</p><p> </p><p>

*Junior Division. Does anyone try to implement one? Would PGHW ever do it? Good signings?</p><p> </p><p>

*Scheduling. @Anderz in this thread laid out his schedule which is very similar to my schedule with UPJ. Has anyone else tinkered with it and all and had success?</p><p> </p><p>

*Titles. Has anyone tried to change the International title from a B level title to an A- level title, i.e. the IWGP IC belt? Or messed with the titles at all?</p><p> </p><p>

*STABLES. Can't book puro with stables <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> what's the best strategy here? Create them at the beginning or organically let them come in? And most importantly what does everyone's stables look like?</p><p> </p><p>

And any more tips!</p><p> </p><p>

Pretty elementary questions I know, but I like to immerse myself in the save so I like to make things perfect before I start!</p>

[KnowYourEnemy]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Dalton" data-cite="Dalton" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47647" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I've spoken about it a zillion times on the forums but the most fun I've ever had in TEW is with United Promotions Japan in the ThunderVerse, which lasted from 2016-mid 2022 before the new game came out. I spent HOURS a day on that, planning out meticulous details for a personal game <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> every tour show, every tournament match, every storyline was crafted in excruciating detail because that's what made it fun!<p> </p><p> Now with the T-Verse probably a few months away if not more, I'm looking to start a long-term puro game in the C-Verse for the first time in ages. I haven't played PGHW in depth since TEW2010 I think? </p><p> </p><p> My goal here is to keep them as close to the PGHW style as possible, while taking some inspiration of NJPW with scheduling and all that.</p><p> </p><p> Anyways, I'm looking for some pointers before I dive too deep into it. I'm about to start crafting a spreadsheet but I want to ask a few basic questions before I start:</p><p> </p><p> *Junior Division. Does anyone try to implement one? Would PGHW ever do it? Good signings?</p><p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Workers like Yasuda, Munkata and Flemmingway seem to fit well in a Juniors division, along with the new signings from WLW -- Kobe and Reaver. </p><p> </p><p> There isn't a huge need to sign guys from the jump -- you can get a solid number of Middleweights to move down to Lightweight. Yasuda and Munkata both fit the "mold" you see in Junior Heavyweights. </p><p> </p><p> Would recommend Jotaro Tanaka & Jayson Van Pelt among others. </p><p> </p><p> Jimbo himself probably would benefit from it -- it probably has an off-chance to improve his star quality assuming you also get him to change shape afterwards.</p>

[yuanshu]

<p>I've always had a hard time getting into C-Verse booking, but right now I'm trying my hand at PGHW and having a blast. I've been going through this thread and taking a ton of inspiration from everybody for my game, so thank you all very much for all the PGHW discussion!</p><p> </p><p>

A quick question: is it normal to have an injury every other week or so? Most of the ones I've been getting are pretty minor, but I've always refrained from booking people with minor injuries unless it's crucial to finish up a storyline. I've been keeping an eye on everybody's fatigue but I haven't seen anybody rise above "None" yet. I haven't really booked much puro before, so I'm assuming some injuries here and there are a natural consequence of the ultra-physical style. I've just finished my first Night of DESTINY and this is what my medical list is looking like:</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>

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[Jon The GOAT]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="yuanshu" data-cite="yuanshu" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47647" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I've always had a hard time getting into C-Verse booking, but right now I'm trying my hand at PGHW and having a blast. I've been going through this thread and taking a ton of inspiration from everybody for my game, so thank you all very much for all the PGHW discussion!<p> </p><p> A quick question: is it normal to have an injury every other week or so? Most of the ones I've been getting are pretty minor, but I've always refrained from booking people with minor injuries unless it's crucial to finish up a storyline. I've been keeping an eye on everybody's fatigue but I haven't seen anybody rise above "None" yet. I haven't really booked much puro before, so I'm assuming some injuries here and there are a natural consequence of the ultra-physical style. I've just finished my first Night of DESTINY and this is what my medical list is looking like:</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> <span>http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7547&stc=1&d=1595639845</span></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> A natural byproduct of the hard-hitting style I imagine. What you should look at aside from fatigue is their physical stats (in the skills page, on the right, bottomish). I dont think you can do much to help those physical stats go back up, but obviously if they arent working as often, that will certainly help. Realistically, having that many wrestlers injured isn't that off putting. WWE's got like 2 dozen injured workers at any point.</p>

[yuanshu]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jon The GOAT" data-cite="Jon The GOAT" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47647" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>A natural byproduct of the hard-hitting style I imagine. What you should look at aside from fatigue is their physical stats (in the skills page, on the right, bottomish). I dont think you can do much to help those physical stats go back up, but obviously if they arent working as often, that will certainly help. Realistically, having that many wrestlers injured isn't that off putting. WWE's got like 2 dozen injured workers at any point.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Ok, thank you! I thought that this was probably normal, I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something. Lately I've been booking once-a-week and once-a-month style schedules so I'm not used to seeing more than one or two people laid up at a time. I took PW_Fandom's idea and asked Eisaku Kunomasu to come out of retirement for one last run, but he got injured on his second match back and kind of threw a wrench in my plans there. Kunomasu's body health dropped down from 54 to 24 in one fell swoop. Anyway, I'll stop panicking about my workers' health. Thank you for the help!</p>

[Shinsuke]

When do workers return from excursion

 

In my game Shozo Furuta and Shinji Mihara's excursion to Europe has recently ended (according to the Assistant screen's countdown) but they continue to work for VWA.

The Assistant message has changed to "...currently on excursion and due to return as soon as any remaining contracts have been completed". With both of them having ongoing agreements with VWA, I wonder if I will ever get my Young Lions back

 

Have any of you experienced this yet? Do ongoing agreements get cancelled after a short grace period or something? I don't want to wait for the odd random worker leaving, tbh

 

EDIT

 

Found the following statement in the 1.18 Patch Release notes: "Made excursion workers more proactive about quitting existing contracts to return home once their time is up"

 

Can't do anything but wait for them to quit their ongoing deals on their own then. (Mihara and Furuta both already announced their departure from VWA roughly 3 weeks after the excursion countdown had ended in my save, so that's not too bad)

[The Dynamite Sid]

It me, the guy who created a duplicate PGHW thread like a dumbass. Just gonna go ahead and copy paste my post from that thread here.

 

Recently started a save with these guys and it's actually my first time ever running PGHW even though PRIDE Koiso is one of my favourite C-verse workers and I love KitoGuchi

 

I'm just over three months in and it's been a tough start. Low attendances, losing money, struggling to fend off bids for my workers from BHOTWG. Ended up getting into a huge bidding war with them over Dean Waldorf and he's wound up with a very very lucrative deal that I'm not entirely sure I can afford. Ditto I had to pay Brute Kikkuchi and subsequently I made the move to lock down their tag partners. I couldn't hang on to Haranobu Kobayashi which is really a blow. He's a young stud and I had high hopes for him as I look to build new stars.

 

Business wise it really has been tough but in ring I'm having a blast booking them. I spent a lot of time booking out a huge Elite Series tour with two blocks of 8. Kozue Kawashima triumphed in Block A, losing only once to Magnum Kobe.

 

Block B almost came to a four way tie as on the final night of the tour Seiji Jimbo, Ryuma Muruyama, Bussho Makiguchi and Masaro Ugaki could all have finished on ten points and were matched against one another. Ultimately Jimbo got the crucial win over Makiguchi in the main event and he will move on to face Kawashima as one man will emerge a three time Elite Series winner (Kawashima, setting up a Glory Crown title match later in the year)

 

 

My hope long term is to build Kobe into being a major star and have him win both the Elite Series and the Glory Crown next year. That is if I can start making money and remain in business as well as keeping him from the clutches of BHOTWG

 

Thinking of setting up some factions. What are some factions guys are using? I'm thinking of having Kobe head up a stable of WLW alumni with Reaver as his lieutenant. Thinking of having KitoGuchi set up a stable of PGHW true borns/loyalists to directly oppose them.

 

Second question is how did you guys manage to turn a profit?

[Yokai]

 

Second question is how did you guys manage to turn a profit?

 

If you raise your production values a bit you can get a better PPV deal that should help you turn a good profit each month.

[The Dynamite Sid]

If you raise your production values a bit you can get a better PPV deal that should help you turn a good profit each month.

 

This had occurred to me but I was a little afraid of the risk/reward of incurring the extra costs. I actually slipped into the red the week before Night of PRIDE although I made a good amount of money on that show so it looks like I might actually make a decent chunk of cash this month

[Yokai]

This had occurred to me but I was a little afraid of the risk/reward of incurring the extra costs. I actually slipped into the red the week before Night of PRIDE although I made a good amount of money on that show so it looks like I might actually make a decent chunk of cash this month

 

You'll make more than enough to cover the extra costs. It's definitely worth it.

[The Dynamite Sid]

You'll make more than enough to cover the extra costs. It's definitely worth it.

 

Alright yeah Im on PPV Japan now and it's solved my cash flow problem in one fell swoop

[Rogue]

I generally never touch the C-Verse but I've fallen in love with playing as PGHW. I'm about to start the 2020 Night of HONOUR tour and thus far here's what I've got going on...

 

*Glory Crown/New Three Pillars*

I've had Ugaki take the title from Jimbo after winning Elite Series and successfully defending his title shot against Kitoaji. Jimbo successfully defended the Glory Crown against Kwakami leading into his clash with Ugaki. 40-minute clash went to Ugaki, who has since defended the belt against Matsuki and Kobe in successive months. Kawashima issued a challenge after Ugaki's defense against Kobe for Night of HONOUR. Going to have Ugaki retain there and I expect to keep the belt on him all the way past Elite Series 2021.

 

Meanwhile, Jimbo I'm having go through a bit of a 'lost' phase where he's full of self-doubt on how he couldn't hang with Ugaki in the ring. A shock loss to BISON Yano at Night of WARRIORS didn't help anything for his mindset as well. Just managed to scoop up Yasuhiko Taira from BHOTWG on a one-year exclusive as they're letting him go as they feel they can't get much out of him at 42... I'm going to have him debut and face Jimbo at Night of HONOUR, where Jimbo'll go over.

 

*Glory Tag Crown*

BHOTWG scooped up Brute Kikuchi pretty quick into the save, so I needed to get the titles off Yano and Kikichu pretty quick. Enter The Ring Generals. Waldorf and Statler grabbed the belts in January and have held them since. The two are each up to 60 pop across Japan with Waldorf actually getting a handshake deal with WLW thanks to that. Popularity was so great apparently WLW just gave him the World Level Universal Championship within the last week. Don't have an idea who I want The Generals to drop the titles to yet, but I'm going to use Waldorf's singles success to springboard him into the International Title's title picture. Which brings me to...

 

*International/Historical Japan*

While the description of the International Title describes it as filler somewhat, I'm trying to elevate it. Reaver dropped the belt in April to Magnum Kobe for the latter's first title in PGHW. Kobe's reign, however, was short-lived as I decided to put it on Elite Series runner-up Bussho Makaguchi two months later. Makaguchi has had several high-profile defenses as Kwakami and Reaver so far.

 

Historical Japan picture's been a bit different as I had Avalanche Takano drop the title to Satou (SATO, meanwhile, is out for 13 months with a semi-severed spine.) Kobayashi's apparently been picked behind the scenes as a future face of the comapny, so he's going to go over at Night of HONOUR.

[DrRDuke]

I generally never touch the C-Verse but I've fallen in love with playing as PGHW. I'm about to start the 2020 Night of HONOUR tour and thus far here's what I've got going on...

 

Cool stuff. Someone on reddit was posting PGHW results a while ago and I kind of got into the fed that way. Turned me on to a couple of guys for my ACPW/CZCW save. I think my next save will start with PGHW as well. I'd really like to try my hand at booking a Japanese company.

[RocheBag]

<p>Bit late obviously but reading through the thread I noticed people are questioning the tour intent shows and wondering why you wouldn't just change them all to be lesser/normal and make more money. </p><p> </p><p>

The answer to the is kind of two-fold:</p><p> </p><p>

1. If you run too many lesser/normal shows in a certain time span, the game will basically turn them into weekly shows and you will only get TV show level attendance. This means your big PPV at the end of the month will be in front of a few thousand fans instead of 30,000 plus. The game doesn't allow you to saturate the market with big shows.</p><p> </p><p>

2. It's kind of the fault of the default data. In the c-verse Japanese companies are treated basically the same as American companies, running one big show every month, just replacing the weekly TV show with two to three tour shows per week. In reality Japanese companies run way more than 12 big shows per year. To set up a realistic Japanese schedule you want to have closer to 20-25 big shows per year, which has the effect of having each tour he much shorter. The only really long tours should be tournaments. </p><p> </p><p>

If you book the Elite Series and the Elite Tag Series as round robin tournaments with two blocks, those tours would be between 10-18 shows each depending on how many participants. Then a lot of people would add a knockout tournament which can be another 6-10 shows depending on how you book it. Other than those the longest tours should be only a few tour shows followed by either a normal or lesser which is broadcasted. </p><p> </p><p>

If you run with 20-25 bigger shows instead of 12, the other issue is not all of these can really be on PPV. Obviously if you run that many big shows not nearly all of them will have world title matches. What I have found to be most realistic is to have your biggest shows be on PPV, and sign a TV deal for events with a lower show requirement and broadcast your lesser shows on that. These would be shows main evented by the International title or the Tag titles and feature mostly multi-man tag matches with only a couple of featured matches.</p><p> </p><p>

This type of schedule allows you to avoid just adding a weekly TV show and feeling no different from booking in America, but also avoid the monotony of booking 8-9 tour shows every month that are essentially meaningless. No company would operate like that in reality.</p><p> </p><p>

Sorry for the long post!</p>