shawn_waters Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="SammyT93" data-cite="SammyT93" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="50299" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>With all the schools closed I'm surprised they didn't bring him back for a second run with the belts <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Nicholas probably wanted those Lesnar dollars, since he was the star of that team.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remianen Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 As much as I agree 96% with you on this, and I am usually very old school in my thinking, I actually think this could make a good story "once in a lifetime". Do it once, never again. Really? And when in wrestling does that term actually mean anything? Rock-Cena, "Once in a Lifetime"......until the following year when they did it again. Lemme ask you. Could you see Bruiser Brody going over the Road Warriors? Why? Because it doesn't make sense. The way I look at it. Is even if a team gets the titles in a fluke they still managed to keep up with the champs in a match enough to pull a win out. Which means a singles guy has easily beaten the fluke champs but this also means this guy can beat the previous champs since the singles guy beat them. Which now means this singles guy can beat any team on his own. Add in even a moderately half decent worker and you make it seem like this is the greatest team ever. I forgot where this quote came.from but I live by "A great tag team should beat 2 great singles wrestlers in a tag match". Precisely! But "sport" doesn't always work like that. Predetermined sports do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slash-LN Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 It's not something I would do but I can understand the desire for some people to do it. I know Andre teamed with Haku for a bit but realistically Andre could have taken on two people and it wouldn't have made anyone look bad. I agree with people who have said you would want to take into account what your tag team division looks like and who you would actually be using in the role of solo champ. I feel like it screws up your booking of that person moving forward. If they're consistently beating two people at a time, two actual stars rather than jobbers, how does it make sense for one person to be able to beat them in the future? The person who can beat them one on one should by default be able to also beat two people at a time. Using WWF as an example. If Yokozuna had gone over all the tag teams and then lost one on one to Bret Hart then logic would dictate that Bret Hart should be able to beat all the tag teams two on one unless the only way Bret can win is by fluke or DQ or something. But then that devalues Bret as not really being better but just lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praguepride Posted May 29, 2020 Author Share Posted May 29, 2020 I feel like a lot of people are forgetting about handicap matches in this “never say never” camp. I agree it weakens the whole tag division but I think you guys are also making some huge leaps in logic. A champ is not always “the best” because someone always comes along and beats them. I think a tag team misfiring should be considered weaker than normal. Or part of a “3 stooges” storyline where tag teams are feuding and keep getting in the way of one another letting a single guy win. Or the unstoppable monster angle. These are all classics and that have been used just rarely with the titles. I am curious if TEW will allow me to do it or not... TO THE LABORATORY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nickman Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 I feel like a lot of people are forgetting about handicap matches in this “never say never” camp. I agree it weakens the whole tag division but I think you guys are also making some huge leaps in logic. A champ is not always “the best” because someone always comes along and beats them. I think a tag team misfiring should be considered weaker than normal. Or part of a “3 stooges” storyline where tag teams are feuding and keep getting in the way of one another letting a single guy win. Or the unstoppable monster angle. These are all classics and that have been used just rarely with the titles. I am curious if TEW will allow me to do it or not... TO THE LABORATORY! Yeah, I don’t understand why so many people are getting so defensive about this either, it’s actually a pretty neat idea Begs the question though... can you actually put a tag title on the line in a handicap match? I’m not sure you can, can you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remianen Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Yeah, I don’t understand why so many people are getting so defensive about this either, it’s actually a pretty neat idea It's not defensive. For the better part of two decades, in the biggest company in the world (which is most people's frame of reference, for a variety of reasons), tag teams have been given short shrift. They've been treated as a sideshow, just slightly above the women (in the past) and the cruiserweights (recent years). With the possible exception of two teams (New Day and Usos), they're rarely if ever featured. There are some of us who like real tag team wrestling. So putting forth an idea of further marginalizing a marginalized group to build a worker when there are other far more effective ways to do it, seems like taking the piss. Also, the thread title poses a question. I answered the question from my point of view. Then later gave reasons for my opinion. How's that make me (or anyone else who dissents) defensive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praguepride Posted May 30, 2020 Author Share Posted May 30, 2020 Just checked it and yeah there is a blocker on match type so you have to have a 2 man team winning (i.e. tag title can't be on the line in a handicap match) and if you vacate it you can't save new champions unless both spots are filled. So the bottom line is you have to do a Strowman "my partner is a 10 yr old" or something to that effect. I have an idea of how to trick the game into making it so though but it requires a lot of DB manipulation. Probably not worth it. Still an interesting though though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nickman Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Would be a cool idea if you could make a singles title be held by two workers (aka Jericho and Chyna with the IC Belt) or a tag title with a single guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhilleagle Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Really? And when in wrestling does that term actually mean anything? Rock-Cena, "Once in a Lifetime"......until the following year when they did it again. Lemme ask you. Could you see Bruiser Brody going over the Road Warriors? Why? Because it doesn't make sense. Precisely! Predetermined sports do. I did say a very surprising team (I even quoted the Beverly Brothers), The Road Warriors are in a slightly different league....... The once in a lifetime thing.......Well, once in a life time as far as wrestling / episodic television goes anyway. Stories are always retold every few years in wrestling / soaps just with different characters or a different take on it. And as for pre-determined...... Yes, it's pre-determined, but it's meant to be presented as a "real Sport". Well, since around the early 2000's it's presented as a circus, but hopefully you get my point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitsukaikira Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 I don’t know if it has ever been done before but having a singles wrestler win a tag team match. Cool or wrestlecrap? The idea is you put a beast in the tag team round up by himself. Say Brock Lesnar who is able to essentially win nonstop handicap matches and secure the tag team titles by themselves. I have an idea on how to fake the game into doing it but just because I CAN do it doesn’t mean that I should do it... Cool? Crap? It depends? You decide! so long as you introduce him as "Both halves of the Tag Team Champion..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathZone2 Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 I think it's cool. Especially if say Eugene or a comedy character won it via fluke. Or an egomaniac character won the titles. There is weeks worth of segments of people "courting" the champions and trying to convince them to pick them as their partner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan93 Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="mitsukaikira" data-cite="mitsukaikira" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="50299" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>so long as you introduce him as <p> </p><p> "Both halves of the Tag Team Champion..."</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> "Half man, half amazing, and both halves of the Tag Team Champions, the only man in the world that can be four halves."</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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