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<div style="text-align:center;"><p><strong>Questions</strong></p></div><p></p><p> </p><p>
So I don't think it hurts to seek user (potential user) feedback on certain things. So stuff I'm undecided on, I'll occasionally post up to see what people think. Or if people even care lol. </p><p> </p><p>
<strong>1. Should Minis be included?</strong> Fairly self-explanatory. I will be adding Hornswoggle / Swoggle soon but that got me wondering if there should be more minis in the mod? They are particularly common in Mexico. While the game isn't set up to emulate them ideally, it should be possible to set them up reasonably well. </p><p> </p><p>
<strong>2. Tokyo Joshi Pro</strong>. There is no lack of joshi promotions in the data, which is part of why I didn't bother yet. There is also the factor of exactly how to define the relationship between TJP and DDT. TJP is like a child company that isn't developmental. Looking at the new company relationship definitions for TEW 2020, it might be most accurate to have them as sister companies. TJP were a bit of a mix back then, which obviously doesn't emulate in TEW, but they became more of a standard promotion and have become a pretty good little company, which makes including them feel more worthwhile.</p>
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As the in-game explanations state, a B show doesn't impact company popularity at all. It would not work the way you hope. It would increase the popularity of the workers in those areas potentially, but that's it.
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<p>I need to update the front page at some point, as it indicates 570 workers in the data but I'm actually almost to 660. I actually did quite a few female workers over the weekend. </p><p> </p><p>
Main reason I'm posting is to say a thank you to Mammoth, who came through in a MASSIVE way. I mentioned in the "concerns" post about needing an expert and having some challenges finding info on refs and road agents in some regions. Well, I just got a mammoth amount of information to work with. So that will probably be my focus for a bit and that could take the mod up to almost 700 workers, give or take.</p>
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Holy hell, dude... These are great. Love it.
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Great to see you back, good sir. Look forward to what you have in store for us.
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<p></p><div style="text-align:center;"><p><strong>Random Thoughts #2 - Concerns</strong></p></div><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>
To be honest, "concerns" might a strong term. Rather, these are elements I'm considering, thinking about, mulling, etc. Not the kind of things I'm losing sleep over. </p><p> </p><p>
</p><ul><li><strong>The Women's Scene </strong>- I want TYM to have a strong women's side of wrestling, because why wouldn't you? What has been added/built so far is certainly not poor. The joshi scene is particularly strong, with some outstanding veterans and younger talent who are petty strong. But I keep having this feeling that beyond joshi, its not as impressive as it <em>could </em>be. The WWE was still using the Diva approach at this time, and the Four Horsewomen were all just in the start of their NXT runs. TNA didn't have a strong division. Shimmer had talent but not epic levels. The UK and European scene was mostly wrestlers who didn't have a ton of experience yet. So thinking about it, the overall women's side probably shouldn't be THAT strong yet. But I think it just keeps popping up to me because I think of what the women's side of wrestling would be by 2015 and in the years since, and try to apply those standards to this mod. But that's not accurate. <br /></li><li><strong>Signings</strong> - specifically big companies making a host of signings right off the start. I've managed to eliminate a lot of that with almost complete rosters, adjusting roster size preferences, etc. I'd like to eliminate it almost entirely. Or at least have it so that its not the exact same workers every time. This is one of those things that I know that I can't test properly at this point - incomplete rosters impact things, as does limited signing options, and the conversion to TEW 2020 will change things as well. <br /></li><li><strong>Joshi</strong> - speaking of joshi.... the joshi promotions that I have included right now are Ice Ribbon, Stardom, JWP, Oz Academy, Sendai Girls, Wave, Gatoh Move... SEAdLINNING is a future company and I've mulled adding Tokyo Joshi Pro, although I'm really not sure how to define their relationship with DDT. I'm not concerned about the amount of talent required - there is a fair bit of crossover and the company size of all them mean they don't have huge rosters anyway. The aspect that does concern me to a degree is the rest - road agents, refs, and broadcast teams for all of those promotions. This isn't the easiest thing to find information on, and applies to the other smaller companies in Japan. Honestly, this aspect is probably one of the things that bothers me most because its such a chore to find info and I'm relying heavily on other mods, but I don't necessarily know where they got their info from. I need an expert<br /></li><li><strong>expertise</strong> - and speaking of experts, I kinda need to do the same lucha. There is one person I might reach out to through Twitter. <br /></li><li><strong>India</strong> - with this being added to TEW 2020, I keep thinking it would be awesome to have something there. But the only Indian promotion I know of was Ring Ka King, which was done by 2012<br /></li><li><strong>Products</strong> - I've mentioned a few times that I'm trying to build things with the TEW 2020 conversion process in mind. So seeing the list of products is exciting. Its very tempting to start trying to tackle those and pick them out and such, but there's not point yet so <br /></li><li><strong>Tweaking</strong> - the urge to go back into the data that's already done can strong at times. When it comes to stuff like correcting errors, I'm going to tackle what I find. But in terms of going back and re-skilling someone who maybe got nerfed or buffed a bit too much, or redoing biographies just because I was too vague when I first started to write them.... I am trying to avoid that for now. I definitely did shorter biographies at first, but with only so much time I can dedicate to the mod, I really prefer to keep growing it for now. The tweaking and testing and adjusting will come down the road. <br /></li></ul><p></p>
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Was looking for Strong Style and Royal Road (Glory Road)
Glory Road - 1990s style All Japan Pro Wrestling with stiff shots, look to simulate wrestling as a pure sport.
How would those two differ from Classic Mainstream Puro and Wrestling As A Sport besides the name?
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="daspindocta" data-cite="daspindocta" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47090" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>It looks like no small detail is being left out of this mod what with title defences, legends and employment histories all being included to which I am absolutely here for. I usually download a mod and edit the small stuff in myself as like you mentioned the minor stuff like that just tends to irk me. No disrespect intended of course to the fantastic mod makers who do put the work in.<p> </p><p> I've somewhat tried my hand at a some mods of my own and slotting was actually my preferred method so I'm interested in someone else going with the same idea. I never had the patience to see it through though and none of them ever saw the light of day so I definitely know what a ball ache it can be. On that note if you need any assistance with anything small details are kinda my thing lol.</p><p> </p><p> Really hoping you're able to stick this through and looking forward to the finished product! <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Glad to hear you are looking forward to it. </p><p> </p><p> At this point, the title defenses is only going into the current champions. I've toyed with the thought of adding them into the title lineages when I start adding those down the line, but I have my doubts it will happen. That's already a long and intensive process and having to check how many defenses for every single entry... just can't see it. Not even considering how tough it might be to find accurate info and what should constitute a proper "defense".</p><p> </p><p> The slotting process works pretty well... but it also has its drawbacks. I'll go into it at some point. I'm not so sure its saving the time I thought it would save me.... but it does save me some consideration of how to skill a given worker, which makes adding in some of the details a bit easier to deal with. </p><p> </p><p> Appreciate the offer of help. Will probably take you up on it at some point.</p>
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I'm legit very happy you're doing this because I do this in every single game I play. I don't know why, but I love belt stats. Days held, times defended, etc. etc. It's so minor, but it just bothers me taking the belt off a guy and it is forever in that save as 0 defenses despite having held the belt for a year before the game started.
Also digging those 3 worker pictures. I want to say Adam Cole at B+ is pretty fair? Maybe a B? I always saw Cole as a WWE guy from the start and I guess in my mind having that WWE image then meant you've got "it" or something. As to where Steen, at a C, I like because it seemed like he wasn't going to get signed for good bit despite being over everywhere else. SQ is a tricky stat that I like and dislike.
congrats on reaching the 600 mark btw! I appreciate these lil updates and knowing the mod is still rolling along.
Thanks. Actually blew past 600 and am closing in on 625. Had a bit more time than I expected while watching some football. Added a handful of non-wrestlers. I dread having to figure out road agents for all the smaller companies. DREAD it.
Glad you are finding some value and interest in these updates. Trying not to go overkill with them.
Chuffed the title defense numbers will be of value to someone. Small thing, but as I've said, its the kind of detail I like in a mod. And in a way, this whole project is for my tastes and preferences.
I checked and the Cole Star Quality is from his base worker. I'm fine with it for the moment. Could get tweaked down a bit down the road, but I still think he would be in the B- to B range at worst. SQ is definitely an elusive thing and I don't want to get too caught up on it. I've already given high (not ridiculously high) SQ to a few workers who have never been major stars and never will, but who I've always liked the look of. RW mods need more mediocre to terrible workers with great Star Quality lol
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Where's the in-game website?
The main screen of the game. Literally what a save opens to.
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Mentioned before that I have been keeping a thread on the mod on another forum where i post frequently (way too frequent) updates. But its not so much about the updates as it is a stream-of-consciousness for things I'm considering or worrying on with the mod. Its way to keep motivated and also a bit of a writing outlet. Some of those posts get very word-heavy and I honestly don't know or care if anyone really reads them. No real intention to do the same here, but I thought I most post... something smaller...?
Random Thoughts #1
- Hit 600 workers the other day. Which isn't a huge number, but it was still nice to get there. That's nearly halfway to the number of workers that the RWC2013 mod I started toying with had
- My focus has been heavily on current workers, and partiuclarly ones under contract to a company. Free agents, yet-to-debut workers, retired legends, and non-wrestlers all have to be added. But I just don't prioritize them as much. By focusing on contracted talent, the companies fill up.
- I've added in a few legends. The retired 80s and 90s stars who don't really wrestle now, but they are nice to have and fill in the Hall of Fames. They can also function in non-wrestling roles, even if they currently don't. They are fast to add in some ways - especially if they are just being imported - even if I'm using someone else as a base and adjusting them - but also slow. The slow part tends to be their work histories (some have worked a huge number of places) and the biographies. While I could get away with a short blurb, I want to do justice to the worker
- Worker types I am not enjoying adding is non-wrestlers. Notably broadcasters, refs, and some owners. Its just ridiculously painful to find any specific details on them. Especially ones from smaller companies. Wanna find out when they were born or when they started working? Get ready to use their Linked-In profile to guess! I'm expecting any modder runs into this, and cannot imagine how much worse it gets if you are doing a mod that goes a decade or more back in time.
- Mentioned that I adjusted Kento Miyahara - he's no longer on the AJPW to start with, since that was several months too early. On the one test I ran after that change, he got signed up by AJPW and became loyal. That was cool. But I am also aware its impacted by AJPW having an incomplete roster to start and may not happen once their roster is full
- Realized I had age-declined L.A. Parka a bit unfairly. In adjusting him, I also realized he left AAA in April, so he got corrected in both ways.
- I mentioned before that Noah were one of the two companies that I was really looking forward to play as. The other is AAA. Which is weird - I have never really done lucha libre in TEW. But between making this mod and watching both AAA and CMLL lately, I'm eager to try. I've become a fan of Psycho Clown, who might be a tad overrated in the mod, but he's not Champagne Lover or anything.
- I've been gradually adding some titles. There is only like 15 in the data so far and none have lineages. Those will be one of the last things to add. But because of info available on Cagematch, I've been trying to make sure the number of defenses for the current champion is correct. I honestly have no idea if other historical mods have bothered with that or not - I can't recall seeing it or even looking. But its the kind of detail I want the mod to have.
- Hit 600 workers the other day. Which isn't a huge number, but it was still nice to get there. That's nearly halfway to the number of workers that the RWC2013 mod I started toying with had
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Posting those allowed me to catch the name issue on Kevin Steen. So already getting rid of errors, I guess.
That Bryan picture is beautiful!Also feel free to use whatever you may need from my 2014 mod.
Hopefully you mean the worker not just the cut lol
Appreciate the offer very much. I'll be taking a look through.
As one of the top workers in the mod and best wrestlers in the world at that time, I've actually adjusted Danielson a couple of times already. When I originally imported him, I upped his technical wrestling skills and brawling a bit (not hugely) and dropped a couple of his Performance skills. He ended up being skilled almost identically to the RWC version of Danielson - obviously not a bad thing. But I subsequently adjusted him back to being pretty much identical to the original imported worker. He's really only been bumped in Brawling. When it gets to the testing phase, he might get adjusted again, but no use to tweak him too much right off the top until I can properly see how he performs over a longer test.
And I'm honestly not sure where the B+ SQ on Cole came from. That jumps out to me as a wee bit high. I either didn't adjust it down when I imported the worker that was used as his base, or I was really into Adam Cole that day.
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As requested:
Bryan Danielson
Kevin Steen
Adam Cole
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Lukkearthur" data-cite="Lukkearthur" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47090" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Very excited to book RVDs return to WWE</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Should be fun. </p><p> </p><p> Be forewarned, though, that RVD will be realistic... so his Soft Drug use will be set to 212%. </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Mammoth" data-cite="Mammoth" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47090" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I echo this. If there's anything you'd like to use from Shifting Sands (2006), feel free to do so. I've got a bit of free time now that I'm not planning on any further updates for either of my modifications until TEW20 and this is a very exciting project so if you'd like any further help with graphics, you can also shoot me a private message and I'd be happy to help. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> <strong>EDIT:</strong> The same can be said about Territory Daze (1970) but I'm not sure how much of that you could tally with a 2013 modification. xD</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> And you, sir, are also a gentleman and a scholar. Thank you kindly. </p><p> </p><p> Very much appreciate the offer, but I'm not sure what I can request at this point. I've mostly finding the cuts I need, and while there are a couple where upgrades cuts could be a good idea, they are lesser known workers and it will take some digging to find better images to cut or have cut. Will be keeping the offer mind, though. </p><p> </p><p> And now I'm tempted to import stuff from the 1970 just cuz....</p>
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Feel free to use anything from the BETA release of my 2004 mod (Graphics, banners, data, etc)
You. sir, are a gentleman and a scholar. Thank you kindly.
Graphics could definitely be handy. Especially as you have switched to the organic style. The biggest thing I'm importing directly is non-wrestlers. Refs, announcers, etc. And honestly, they are a pain to find information on. Even confirming the date of birth for a lot of refs is a nightmare.
i like this timeframe very much, The Wyatt Family should be super fun to book right this time.I do have a little request if you can release some screenshots of worker skills
I can probably do that over the weekend. Not going to do a huge number of them, but one or two is probably workable. Any specific workers you had in mind?
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I'd love a 2010s mod, there aren't nearly enough of those. Imagine booking ROH still with The Bucks, Undisputed Era, Kevin Steen; not to mention saving TNA (or NOAH), the rises of Naito and Miyahara, just the ENTIRE re-rise of BritWres, and the insane amount of wasted opportunities in the WWE (The Wyatt Family and Cesaro, just to name a few). The opportunities are endless, and all my ideas are fresh with the lack of mods in this time period. Cannot WAIT until this mod comes out. Seems like you've put a lot of thought and effort into it.
Anyways, will the mod be released for TEW 2016, or will it be exclusive to 2020?
Noah is actually one of the two companies I'm most looking forward to. AJPW will be interesting too but will require more rebuilding as it starts right as the fallout from Mutoh happens.
Miyahara is something I've been mulling. At this point in time, he is still connected to Diamond Ring / Kensuke Office, which isn't in the data in any real way (not a mechanism that exists). He would join AJPW in August and have his first match in September. I had him start with AJPW originally but that felt.... obviously wrong. I edited it recently and I haven't checked, but I have a feeling he will consistently be snapped up by NJPW in every save.
As Jaysin pointed out, its going to be 2020 only. That might disappoint a few folks, but I just don't see how it works otherwise. There are a few things I am not bothering with because I will tweak / adjust them once it can be converted to TEW 2020. That includes companies, products, company popularity, broadcasters, training facilities, etc. I want them to be optimized for 2020 as they are changing, so there isn't much point messing with them before its converted. I will also be testing and tweaking on 2020. I have no interest in doing all of that twice, which is what releasing the mod for both TEWs would require. Equally, I would not release a TEW 2016 version that wasn't complete.
It was a fictional universe set in 1985. The first time I tried it, I had around 500 workers done and then my old computer died.A few years later I started working on it again and this time I have 207 (I just looked it up). Basically I was looking for C-Verse workers that would match-up decently with real world counterparts. For instance I created a Harley Race type character and then I went into the C-Verse and looked for someone who was of similar age and stats. There was never a perfect match but I took what I could get and tweaked the stats to get it somewhat close.
The more I worked on the mod the more I started thinking, "Am I just making a Real World mod here?" That actually killed my interest in making the mod further because a lot of what I was doing was just a mirror of the real world.
500 workers. Man, that must have taken awhile. Heartbreaking to lose that much work.
And I do know what you mean about the mirror part. I've toyed with a few ideas for fictional mods over the years, but it never got past that brainstorming stage. The problem I always run into is that I either feel that my concepts are too directly derivative of real world wrestling situations / dynamics, or just too intentionally intended to be contrary to those. It just doesn't feel original enough. Which honestly probably works best with a fictional mod - I think most users like things they can connect to real wrestling, even if its not too directly - but it ends up feeling like there is no point.
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No, not wrong at all. Big fan of both Moxley and the Shield. The mod starts right before they get their first taste of championship gold in the WWE, so it'll be interesting to book their run and eventual demise as a unit for sure.
They were already pretty big but its still early enough that you can do different things as you push them right to the top. I would want to do more with Moxley and really capitalize on that character, rather than what the WWE actually did.
Love how this sounds so far, 2013 is a sort of nostalgic year for me since it was around the time I was getting back into wrestling, plus i've actually sort of done some slotting for a personal database of mine so it's kind of interesting to see i'm not the only one.on a sort of related note, is it bad that my contrarian side is telling me to Batista vs Triple H the wrestlemania 30 main event?
You gotta do what feels right. If the greatest match in the history of wrestling is what you want to headline WM, then you can definitely do that. Or you can turn Mason Ryan into the level of star he deserved to be an make that epicest of epic matches into a threeway. Just sayin....
How far did you get with the slotting-based project you did?
2013 is also the year I started to get back into wrestling for like the 4th or 5th time. Though Punk/Rock almost made me give up right back up. i didn't even realize the Wyatts hadn't debuted at this point yet. I foolishly thought that this period was a sign of WWE doing a hard change by rotating out the old guard, but alas. That said, 2013/14 did motivate me to start watching more alternatives and I'm glad it did.the idea of being able to play as WWE and NXT just before the Takeover era is exciting. so yeah, this mod is gonna rule.
I believe it was July where the Wyatt family made their main roster debut, but they had done vignettes for a period first.
And yeah, it did feel like they were starting to change things over in a generational sense. That is exactly part of the "potential" of the time period, since it never really happened that way.
Couldn't agree more, especially after running through the entirety of NXT from 2012-2014, I couldn't be more pumped. So much potential on that young roster, would craft quite a company for ten years down the line. Just before they went crazy signing indy guys like it was going out of style.The NXT of this period is interesting. I'm sure it will disappoint some folks, as it doesn't have the sheer depth of talent of some of time periods a bit later. In addition to the Wyatt family, you have Sami Zayn, Chris Hero, Neville, Enzo & Big Cass were just forming up, Tyler Breeze had joined, and Rusev was still there. You had all four of the Horsewomen there. It should be quite fun to book if you want to run NXT.
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So I do have a thread on another site (non-TEW specific) where I post about the progress on the mod. As well as a vomiting forth any random thoughts or considerations or ideas I have on the mod. Almost daily. Which is oddly helpful in staying motivation. I don't intend to do that here, but I figure it can't hurt to post the occasional progress update or things that I've been looking at. I may ask for suggestions or thoughts on certain topics at times, and I'm of course always open to questions.
Testing
So one of the things I do with any mod is test it. A lot. The majority of which are just test sims (soak tests) and then looking through looking for anomalies or errors. But a big part of the tests is looking for stability - short term and long-term. How do companies grade? Are they sustainable? Overpowered? Underpowered? This leads to tweaking.
I don't want to be tweaking things just yet but I am concerned with how things grade and whether they are stable. Like I said in the explanation of the idea slotting.... what if I end up with hundreds of workers in the data and then realize it doesn't produce results like I expect?
I have yet to do a significant amount of testing on this data, for a couple of reasons.
The first is how I've approached adding workers. Which is... sporadic. The smartest approach would be doing one company at a time. This then means that once a company is complete, you can test and see fairly accurately how it generates grades. But I've been very sporadic. Which was an internal choice - I like seeing different areas and different companies gradually fill up. I like moving around through the game world. I have a spreadsheet with a list of workers who I have already matched up, and its about 700 workers long - although a portion of those are yet-to-debut workers that I'm not bothering with yet. I tend to just move between countries - adding someone from the US scene, then a Japanese wrestler, then a luchador, then a female wrestler, then someone from the UK or Europe, and then repeat. I've done more focused adding at times, but not consistently.
What that means is that there are no completed companies. The WWE and NJPW are both close - I would say 80-90% of active wrestlers are in there, and enough non-wrestlers (road agents, refs, broadcasters) to function. Other companies have less, and a few are still missing owners or bookers. The issue is that it means companies all hire more talent, meaning the companies look different in very short order and the results are then.... a bit off. Not necessarily massively, but it creates a variable.
The second reason I haven't tested all that much is that testing leads to tweaking. I see something off and I want to correct it. When that's an actual error, that's fine. Someone who has the wrong gender set, or a spelling error in their name, or active in the wrong regions, etc. But when its a skilling issue... Starting to tweak workers so results are more accurate is a process all unto itself. It needs to happen, but I don't want to get drawn into it yet. For example, I'm quite curious how a few really veteran workers who are still quite top level will grade - Kurt Angle, Black Terry, etc. They have Time Decline set so they shouldn't be spitting out A and A* matches all the time. But... I may need to nerf things a bit further to better emulate their age. A primary reason I don't want to worry on that right now is that things could change a bit for TEW 2020, so its better to wait and do that kind of testing once the data is converted.
All that said, the little bit of testing I have done has been fairly short-term - like a year or two max, instead of going 10 years plus as I will later. And I'm just looking for grade stability. And those things look pretty good
WWE - they function as they do in most modern mods, which is always going to be a bit variable in terms of grades because the roster is always so big (realistically) that a lot of talent who just shouldn't headline get auto-pushed to Main Event and sometimes get headlined. The new push system on TEW 2020 might change this so I'm not going to worry overmuch, but the grades generally seem enough to maintain the WWE at its starting size, which is really all I'm looking for.
NJPW - can be a tough overpowered on tour shows, depending on who they headline. Its a bit like PGHW in the Cverse in that regard, but its not enough to be concerning.
TNA - grades vary quite a bit. Realistic.
AAA & CMLL - they've been getting a lot of attention lately - in every way. I've been watching a lot of lucha recently and I really want this to be a vibrant scene. I've also been adding a lot of talent to both companies. But the results seem solid - ranging from C to B-. Not strong enough to make a HARD push for national but they aren't going to be going backwards much either.
The Indies - okay, I will very rarely wrap together so many diverse wrestling regions and companies into one like this. DDT is not the same as wXw is not the same as MCW. But there are similarities in how they grade, so I didn't want to break it up in a whole bunch. Every region has some good to VERY good workers that are under contract, and others who will be free agents. Very few have strong popularity but many are good in-ring workers. That means they can all pull strong grades for shows against the right opponent, but won't do so consistently. I think I saw wXw get a B- show at one point, pretty much because of Walter. That's not the norm, though. The only companies I saw get consistent solid grades that was a step above their company popularity was Noah and Dragon Gate, but other companies like DDT and AJPW are likely going to be capable of the same once they have more complete rosters. In other regions, the strong grades will be a bit less frequent because even if the workers are capable of it, they mostly lack the popularity. But.... the companies are also mostly smaller, so a reasonably strong grade can be just as helpful.
What I need to test for but can't yet is long term grades and stability. Are the companies growing? Growing too fast? Getting into money trouble? These are the things where a long-term soak test is necessary, and quite a few of them.
TL DR - I can't test much because I like chaotic mod-building apparently but what I can test looks solid.
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is there a war games match in the game? if there is what is it under?
It depends on the mod, as each mod can have different match types. If there isn't one in the mod, you can easily create one.
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When I was working on an ill fated mod a few years back I did slotting as well. I think it is a pretty good method, because as you said it sort of gives you an idea how the worker will work with the game.
Good luck with this.
Thanks BHK. And I'm intrigued on what project you were working on. What time period and how far did you get?
Slotting (my term, there's probably a better one out there lol) definitely worked as intended in that regard. I'll post something about early test results soon, but its petty on-point in that aspect.
I figured it might save time. It doesn't.
The slowest part is definitely adding in the biographies but I like to actually make them somewhat worth reading, so....
There aren't too many "historical" real world mods based in the 2010's yet that I'm aware of, so am glad to see this.Good to hear.
Would it be wrong to assume that, based on the username, you are a fan of Mr. Moxley? The Shied are still fairly early days but are pretty solid workers already by this point. Not quite "they can headline easily", but they should all develop into that. Its the kind of thing I'll be looking for once I can start to do more long-term testing.
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Lukkearthur" data-cite="Lukkearthur" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47090" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Good luck with this 2013 was one of my favourite years in wrestling!</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> To be honest, I'm not sure I enjoyed it that much more than other years around the period at the time. But in retrospect, it was a pretty good year. </p><p> </p><p> 2009 was the other year I gave serious consideration to. And while there was some stuff that would have been interesting to do in the WWE, I feel like outside the WWE would be less interesting. Whether you look at Japan or England or Australia, this time period offers way more. </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="20LEgend" data-cite="20LEgend" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47090" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The idea of "slotting" is really interesting. Looks like it's going to be a great mod.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Thanks, I'm hoping so. </p><p> </p><p> And I'll blather on about the "slotting" more at some point, I'm sure. There are positives and negatives. But the biggest part is that it seems to be coming together in with an overall balance similar to what I was wanting. </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="S_Joker" data-cite="S_Joker" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47090" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Keep going I'm almost there...<p> </p><p> <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> ....do you want me to talk about it in my deep voice? Or my deep DEEP voice?</p>
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Love this idea and would love to test this out sometime in the future. Sorry if ive missed it, but the pick your using from Joe Murpy, will it be updated?
The pic pack I'm putting together is a mix of organic style pics from different sources. The RWC mod I was messing about originally had an orgnic style pic pack and a decent amount of pics are being sourced from there. JoeMurphy's pack is the other main source, and is providing almost all the images being used as agers.
I've much looking forward to the coming Awesome Pack update. I've tried to ask permission from everyone that I can identify that I have or may use conent from, and am still waiting to hear back from JoeMurphy. But I'm hoping he's okay with it. And yes, the new cuts will absolutely be used.
Here's hoping this actually does get properly released. More modern mods is never a bad thing.Been plugging away at it for awhile, so its gonna be mighty disappointing on my end if I give up the ghost on the project before its done.
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Thanks
- Adam for TEW and the CornellVerse
- The ThunderVerse Crew
- The Mod Squad
- Derek B for the Mod Making Guide
- Fleish, Southside Hitman and everyone who has worked on the Real World Chronicles
- Forlan for T-Zone
- TheWho1987 and crew for the TEW Modding Resource
- Mammoth - HUGELY
- FullMetal for the name mod
- Asaemon for his work
- JoeMurphy for his Super Awesome pic pack
- Taker for his pic pack
- All the graphic artists and cutters
- Jon for all his help on this and previous projects
- Zero, King Steventon, Ed, and others who have provided opinions on talent
- Strigga for running Cagematch
- Adam for TEW and the CornellVerse
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Can You Help?
This is massively presumptuous of me, but there are often folks in this community who offer to help out whenever a project comes up. And while any offers are appreciated, the answer is going to be the same for anyone at this point - not yet.
There will be need down the road, but the process is still too early to really do any kind of testing or data validation just yet.
Questions
Things I'm seeking feedback / thoughts on.
1. Should Minis be included?
2. Tokyo Joshi Pro
[Hype] The YES! Mod - May 2013
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