Jon The GOAT

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="DeBosco" data-cite="DeBosco" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47647" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Does lesser give you better profit and pop gains than a touring intent? I assumed they were the similar based on the descriptions.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> On the pop side of things:</p><p> </p><p> - You basically have a 12 pt bonus/penalty to your show grade with regards to gaining or losing pop. Plus the fact that you need your show to be 5 points greater than your pop to gain anything, you'd need 17 points for your show above your pop to gain anything or 17 points for your show below your pop to lose anything. For max pop gain you would need 24.5 points above your pop <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Once you would hit 83 pop, it would no longer result in a pop increase no matter what you do and you'll have to rely exclusively on the normal intent events to grow.</p>

I did not realize USPW was this predatory. Aside from Roderick Remus, Im not too concerned about resigning anyone till August where The New Wave, Bach & Hocking all have expiring contracts. Sucks about Bach, to be honest, he's a clear step behind Chord/Andrews/Hawkins in my game despite NOT being in Time Decline. I still want to give him his magical reign though so if he can resign and hold on till Total Mayhem, he'll still get all the gold in the world. Hope USPW starts signing up all my guys. Not as helpful as post as the others but tbh I just let guys work and keep an eye out to see if they go too long without making any improvements. If they do, I usually chalk it up to having hit the cap. -- The TCW roster is pretty fatigued to start it seems like. I think we definitely need a large roster to account for the second show now and the fact that we have so so many older guys. Unfortunately, there's no bandage signing you can make in the game to start. No one really available to bring in to try and help alleviate the pressure on the main event. Also, I feel bad for Taylor/Mo/Huggins who all deserve a big push but how do you get past the ceiling of Bach/Chord/Hawkins/Andrews without accidentally screwing their pop over. Gonna have to figure out that gap. At the very least none of that trio are quite ready for a title reign.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jomosensual" data-cite="Jomosensual" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47616" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Also while I'm talking about plans and stuff here's what I'm aiming for eventually:<p> 3 brands(TW, Showcase, and Womens wrestling)</p><p> 2 monthly events. One for each the mens brands with womens matches sprinkled in. Exceptions are for January(Malice), May, July(Summer Showdown), and November(King of Kings) where there will be only those shows</p><p> </p><p> King of Kings will be a 3 day tournament like how I set it up in 2016. Having the 3 days lets you build someone up over the 3 shows and really launches people's popularity as winning on 3 PPVs gives a bigger boost than many wins on 1. Also helped with stamina then but IDK if it'll matter in this game.</p><p> </p><p> Achievements:</p><p> Royal Rumble(Want an original name for this) - Malice, winner goes to Total Mayhem</p><p> </p><p> Key to the Future tournament - G1. Need to rework it a bit but I like the idea of having to win something major to get a world title match at TM</p><p> </p><p> Gonna create something for the women as well but right now I don't have an idea of what.</p><p> </p><p> Had a 3 day tag tournament I might bring back as well because that was doing good to launch some people in that division.</p><p> </p><p> For the women I'm doing a 32 person tournament for sure. Going to wait about a year or so to get a few contracts to expire since they're going to be a full on different brand and I need some names to carry them popularity wise.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm intending on adding a womens division as well though not sure if I want to do a whole brand for them. I understand why you would though, to avoid them getting overshadowed on the main show most likely. </p><p> </p><p> I'm using King of Kings as my Total Mayhem title challenger decider. Itll mean a really long build up but for some reason thats how I initially read it as being so Im just sticking with it. Next year hoping Bach can win it then challenge the champ at TM.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jomosensual" data-cite="Jomosensual" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47616" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Will seems to be the consensus future head of TCW. I picked him as well and honestly he's not too bad in the ring. A few years of development and things look good for him. I like your idea of Magnum Kobe as well and if he comes available soon enough I might strap the rocket on him. Also signed Yuta Isono as many suggested who could be a big player in the future with his 87 SQ and 84 charisma. Other guys I scooped up with plans to develop into names are:<p> Fro Sure - 89 SQ, 80 Charisma</p><p> Jesse Tasman - SQ 82, Charisma 86</p><p> Papa Swoll - SQ 80, Charisma 86</p><p> SubUrban Legend - SQ 82, Charisma 84</p><p> </p><p> Not sure what the exact target numbers for those stats, and while none of them are Will or Yuta I think there's a good chance they'll develop and that's not even considering guys like KC Glenn and Matthew Keith who I'm backing the truck up for. There's a few young guys I'm letting stay out on the indies for now like Hans Piccard so. Also should he become available soon I'm jumping on Zap Powerson.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Going to check those guys out. I have Yuta Isono on SAISHO, he's definitely a quality dude and I'd really love to diversify my roster with international talent. Also Ive got Glenn & Keith waiting in the wings to sign as well. </p><p> </p><p> Anyways, I've booked my first show, here's who is in time decline and probably destined to be de-pushed until they are ready to call it the quits:</p><p> - One Man Army</p><p> - Tana The Mighty </p><p> - Danny Fonzarelli</p><p> - Eddie Chandler</p><p> - Human Arsenal</p><p> - Nate Johnson</p><p> - Troy Tornado</p><p> - Dean Daniels</p><p> </p><p> The big one here is that Sammy Bach has not been found by the time decline death god yet. If Sammy Bach can manage to stay out of Time Decline until next year's Total Mayhem, he will become a TCW legend overnight. </p><p> </p><p> <img alt="9e8f55ffa4e04fc80bc618d538cba72f.png" data-src="https://i.gyazo.com/9e8f55ffa4e04fc80bc618d538cba72f.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Here's the show I ran. Not too bad. Obviously itll be interesting to see how it evolves once it morphs into Wrestling Nerd Nirvana. Some disappointing notes are that Killer Shark & Floyd Goldworthy have bad chemistry as well as Vita & Edd Stone. Vita/Stone is easily solvable but Goldworthy/Shark is harder to deal with considering its a stable.</p><p> </p><p> I'm going to be tossing Diamond, Fonzarelli & Foxx into a trio called The Club. Idea is Diamond is the tough guy, Fonzarelli the romantic, & Foxx the guy who gets into trouble on the dance floor. Somewhat gimmicky but they worked together.</p><p> </p><p> Greg Gauge is insane and will probably be in the main event scene really fast. T-Bone Bright, Matt Hocking, Titan, all surprisingly good. Chord/Hawkins have bad chemistry so that tanked the main event. Huggins/Taylor/Mo are all easily pushable into the main event as it is. Extremely happy with the roster. Now that I have two shows now, I'll be looking to expand though. Gonna look at those youngsters mentioned above. </p><p> </p><p> Owner Goals came in:</p><p> No debt - Easy</p><p> Aaron Andrews above 71 pop - Shouldnt be a problem</p><p> Wolf Hawkins above 71 pop - Same</p><p> No powerhouse style workers - Weird but okay? Rules out Papa Swoll sadly</p><p> No daredevil style workers - again fair enough but weird</p>

They have a really awesome roster right now. So many amazing veterans, so you can just fill up the roster with young guys to push because there's so so much fodder. The schedule of TCW is weird. Your tag team division gets shafted for two months straight where they cant advance their title scene on PPV (War to Settle the Score is 1 v. 1 and Battleground is 4 v. 4). Pretty weird. King of Kings is cool. I don't know if I'll take it easy and go Singles Elimination tournament or make it hard on myself and go round robin (two groups of 4, Showcase vs. Total Wrestling). We will see. It's a shame Eddie Peak never became a TCW World Heavyweight Champion. What a mess up. Sammy Bach has never won anything worthwhile in TCW. That's insane. Why is he still there? He's a perfect figurehead? How is he not a multi-time world champion. I don't even like the guy but that's insane. If he's not in time decline, I'm seriously giving him a triple championship reign and I will keep the world heavweight championship on him until he hits time decline. That's my guarantee. All that being said, if I do do it, he would have to wait till Total Mayhem 2021 to win it so it would depend on him to see if he can stay out of time decline till then. If he has hit time decline though, it'll be too bad for him, he'll only do as well as he can perform. But man this is why TCW is unsuccessful. Awful booking. Jay Chord is obviously primed for that world title reign. I'll have to book to see who else is looking like they have potential. I won't be hesitant with depushing the old boys (IE, whoever is in time decline), but if they're still performing well, I won't force them down the card. All depends on how good they are. Anyways, aside from that, I did as I said: Total Wrestling - ACE (US) & IC-TV (Canada) Saturday Night Showcase - Netstream (Global) PPV - USA Free Choice (I dont get it), Canada 1 Choice Plans is to save up for a streaming service as good as Reverie which shouldnt be hard, I suspect we might even debut it after Total Mayhem. We'll be keeping PPV on PPV though. I like the idea that we're outsmarting SWF & USPW by combining both of their strategies (SWF gets most of its revenue from PPV while USPW profits from subscriptions). Product will center around marquee match ups. I'm morphing into Wrestling Nerd Nirvana to modernize the company (character is Masked Avatar). But basically keeping up with what's going on now like Hawkins vs. Andrews & Bach vs. Chord. But we have to build more big names to get involved there. The lower cards will typically be filled with multi-man matches a la puro. Singles match will be extremely protected on television for me. Also by the way, I thought all the hate for Maverick was because it was John Maverick but its Julian Watson. He was pretty solid in NOTBPW, I dont get all the hate. We'll see how he performs before I decide whether to toss him or push him. Oh yeah, still need to see what I get for owner goals. I will probably leave the main card for Malice in Wonderland following main stories, but I'll have to book a show or two to figure out how I want to deal with the rest of the card. I gotta get a feeling for them after all. One thing I intend on doing, and this will sound ambitious, is to have Wolf Hawkins break Tommy Cornell's title reign record, and one day have it supplanted by TC Jr. Of course, if I can help it, in the land of All-Star matches, TCW, I'll try and get the two Cornell's from 21CW over here in TCW again. I don't like that TCW is back in San Antonio and I will probably make the argument to move back to L.A. eventually if I did pick a Mid South based avatar intentionally. I just really love the image of TCW being the land of big matches, it's centered in L.A. for that showtime flare. The main gimmick of the company will center around hyping up those really huge PPV matches. Kyle Rhodes will make this ambition really challenging but I'll do my best to sign as many stars as I can. Wolf Hawkins & Aaron Andrews are here for the next four year so I'll always have that to fall back on. Some main event goals for Total Mayhem: Sammy Bach wins the TCW World Heavyweight Greg Gauge vs. Matthew Keith Greg Gauge vs. Roderick Remus (I really enjoyed this feud on MAW in 2016) And obviously, I have to find the face of TCW. It's not anyone on the roster. Sammy Bach outshines everyone including Ace & Alpha, but of course Bach is a bit too old. I decided he should be our baseline for our new star and came up with a shortlist. El Leon - Too old & not charismatic enough. High Flying Hawaiian - Not quite charismatic enough but worth grooming if he becomes available. Magnum Kobe - Kinda up there in age, but big issue is he's better as a heel. Razan Okamoto - Not quite charismatic enough but worth grooming. Trying to sign him but not sure if BCG loyalty will stop me. Remo Richardson - Too old, heel, not charismatic enough. Rocky Golden - Old & not quite charismatic enough. Will Beaumont - Well, what can I say, he's perfect. Beaumont & Okamoto are currently in negotiations with me. If any of these guys become available, I'll be bringing them anyways. To be honest, we want the biggest names. That's the goals. We want the biggest possible match ups on PPV. I intend on sign Dreadnought, James Diaz & Logan Wolfsbaine because I enjoy that trio. I'll sign them all to 3 years and probably send them all to be groomed by Sam Keith. Might try to cut a deal with SAISHO, CWW, & ACPW as well, and anything that pops up in India. I will also start a women's division at some point but that will wait till we're past Mayhem. Oh yeah, I turned off testing for soft drugs. I dont have problems with that tbh. Obviously once the broadcaster is settled, the next goal will be the terrific performance center investment. Main aim is just to see if we can dethrone USPW and once that's done, just have fun with the roster if Rhodes can allow us.

It would be great if the AI Instructions for an event would appear on this screen. Im sure a lot of us find it helpful to know if there are themes for these events even if we're not forced to do it. There's space there so why not use it to tell us that this event's theme is: All 1 vs. 1. Would really appreciate if this was possible.

Contemplating a TCW game. I'd probably add a second show (Showcase) and toss it on NetStream. Add a Canadian broadcaster to PPV and Total Wrestling. After that save money till I have 20M and open up the Total Wrestling Network to compete with Reverie. Playing a head booker but probably one of the avatars to signify a change. Also tweaking to Wrestling Nerd Nirvana to modernize a company trying to compete with global juggernaut USPW. Product will likely be something between NXT and AEW. I doubt I'll be giving Wolf a title reigns anytime soon unless he's that much better than the Ace.

Yoshikawa is an interesting guy to pick as a UC. The Kobe-Gun stable makes a lot of sense (even if the name doesn't really have a good ring to it). Razan is a must-sign, definitely recommend him. Big fan of Torii too but I'd say Razan is a bigger win for you. As for breaking up KitoMaji, maybe necessary to give Kito his push. I'm always reluctant to split teams if they have great chemistry (not sure if they do or not) Looking forward to what you do with the Elite. Razan getting a surprise win would be pretty huge and unexpected. I dont tend to book huge things like that but I should to shake things up a lot more. -- I figured it was worth mentioning here. I'd mention it in other puro-related discussion threads but doesnt seem like theres many puro players this year. Your touring shows can only gain you pop if they grade 29 above your current pop in the area, and once you hit 71, you basically arent gaining any pop. With worker pop gains also being pretty low, it seems like the best bet for puro tours is to just toss as many guys on the card as you can manage for worker growth. And maybe loosely advance storylines. The same goes for lesser intent but to a slightly less drastic degree (I think it would be 23 but dont quote me on that). On the flipside, your show also has to be 29 under your pop to lose anything so I suppose you dont have to worry about putting on bad shows... Major events will likely be priority # uno for steering your roster one direction or another.

I'm looking forward to starting with those settings. Not falling in love with any company so doesn't seem like a bad idea. Curious to see what the dominant scheduling will be. In '16 I went as realistic as I could and had monthly shows at most, only increasing my schedule when I began making a profit & focusing exclusively on cheap hires. This time around there are pre-made scheduling options so I'll probably go with Constant and just keep that till the end of the challenge, renaming events as I go.

Yeah I was looking that up as well and I could see it working for dev (supposedly it can mean variations of beginning & commencement) but Miwa has taken over for a while now. Unless he's sticking to the MAW mentality of developing young workers (which he clearly isnt judging by how many reigns KAZ has had) he should rebrand. I also find it a bit disappointed that SAISHO has theoretically not really grown in the time Miwa has owned the company. You can be generous and say the tsunami hurt them but four years and a couple of companies out of the way later, they can't even get 70 people to come to their shows? Bit underwhelming. Why doesn't Miwa seem to have any plans to grow or do anything with the company? Until the patches, SAISHO was on the verge of dying but now they'll be treading water instead.

I've booked a few more shows with SAISHO. Good news is that the financial issues are mostly gone. I havent lost money so far despite using my roster extensively. There's a TON of young lions & just in general workers available to sign in Japan. I'd argue there's EASY room for another small-sized company there. I signed up Yuta Isano, Dreadnought (renamed Sam Copland for young lion reasons), & James Diaz to the roster. Some thoughts on booking: Your Stars/Major Stars have to have their matches be at least 20 minutes even if there is a wrestler who would be overused. Though I would probably keep them away from young lions. Technical Masterclass/Steal the Show are pretty easy to book. Well Steal the Show is since the roster is solid (I just make sure the guys wrestling in those have 60ish psych tbh). Technical Masterclass might need a calm the crowd match before it. I use tags/trios pretty extensively with some rare singles matches and rarer 4 v 4s. Unfortunately though, I'm not really getting hooked to the company. I'm very tempted to pick another company. The tours are going to get extremely exhausting, or at least they are early on when you have a limited roster. Getting show grades isn't very hard. I'm trying to convince myself that in the long run I'll probably be more content with doing the tour shows. But its hard to get motivated to book the 10th show of a 12 show tour where every show can tend to feel virtually the same. It doesnt help that SAISHO's roster & identity still feel very hazy and unclear for me. Aside from wanting to prove ourselves with PGHW (who will terminate trade deals with SAISHO whether you're AI or not rendering pretty stupid for it to even be in the game), I just don't see the direction of the company. Even the roster doesnt really have anything you're building towards. Makioka is in his first reign and theres really no one else who needs the title at this point. The only real attraction at the moment is just the road to taking over Japan. SAISHO also probably needs a rename because its not really going to do for an ambitious company anyways. Doesnt really compare to BHOTWG, PGHW, EX2010, WLW, or BCG. Im heading into my 5th show but my interest is quickly depleting ;(

Went ahead and started my first game in TEW 20 with SAISHO. I've left all the preferences/rules on and the schedule is remaining as it is. I did sign a broadcasting contract with Shogun TV for tour highlights and the events. My character is The Great Avatar and I replaced Sekozawa as the head booker of SAISHO. I won't alter the schedule until the full game is out at which point I will negotiate for a television deal, besides that, I will avoid adding any more events. Booked this show mainly to get an idea of the roster and how good each person performed. Steal the Show match was given to Babau & Moroi who are two really good wrestlers and Van Pelt/Katou, an odd pairing but two of the better workers on the roster. Left it at 15 minutes. Technical Masterclass match was gifted to Robinson&Svensson vs. Avatar & Miyake. No problems with this one either. I took a risk with leaving Serizawa at a slightly overused but I didnt really get penalized for it. Didn't have any issues with crowd management either, all in all, zero complaints about the show. Top 5 Performers: Kita, Narahashi, Makioka, KAZ, Genji Worst 5 Performers: Koizumi, Kakinomoto, Utagawa, Arato, Serizawa Sekozawa is in Time Decline, he's definitely a guy that should be left to work with the Young Lions. Utagawa, Kakinomoto & Koizumi get penalized for inexperience. Arato also got penalized for poor psychology. I also added a cheap referee and a cheap road agent just to get ahead of being possibly penalized. I think only Ogai Miki got left off the card because I didn't have anything for him. This is a pretty solid grade so nowhere to go but up. My plans for Battleground Japan: Destiny Title: Zesshin Makioka © vs. Azumamaro Kita Destiny Tag Title: Arakaki & Sekizawa © vs. Babau & Moroi Ride The Tiger: Tobei Sugimura © vs. Gidayu Katou Rest of the card, we'll see. I'm going to see. At this point, I don't see Destiny Awaits not being headlined by this same match. Kita & Makioka are our two best workers. So the way I see it, Makioka wins here, Kita wins the rematch in the A-1 Grand Prix finals and Makioka will probably win the blow off match since Kita's already had so many reigns. It's Makioka's year.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="TeemuFoundation" data-cite="TeemuFoundation" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="49289" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> But there's just something about the game that keeps pushing me away. I appreciate some changes, but for every positive change, it feels like the game has two things that annoy me. It feels difficult to get things done, and playing the game actually feels like work, as opposed to having fun - which is what I'm after.</p><p> </p><p> I always feel like such an outsider when people talk about using Excel for their TEW savegames, keeping notes, having these elaborate plans, haha. I just play and book. I have some stuff in my head, but I really just paly for fun. I guess this is a big reason why 2020 just doesn't jive with me that much; a lot of people over the years have complained about TEW games being too easy. I've never had this issue because I've never played TEW for the any kind of challenge it may or may not provide. It's just been this fun way to kill time, really. But I think 2020 aimed to address a lot of the things about the difficulty that have been brought up.</p><p> </p><p> This, then, lead to this game where our hands are cuffed way tighter than before. I also feel that maybe it's because the game was aimed at the hardcores who truly do play the game with the help of Excel and hundreds of external notes that everything taking so long was never seen as a possible issue. </p><p> </p><p> I just read that it takes someone 30 minutes to book a show in 2020 - and I'm assuming this is someone who quite enjoys the game. This is so foreign to me since I could never enjoy it taking half an hour to get one show done in a TEW game, but it goes to show me that perhaps I'm just not in the target audience. This is aimed at the hardcore gamers of the series. And that's fine. Not everything is geared for everyone, that's just how it goes.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I really wish this post was right and TEW 20 had been geared towards the note takers & "hardcores" but as a note taker & possibly a "hardcore", I can comfortably & easily state that this game didnt do much to be geared in my direction & to make the game any more challenging. I wish it did make the game more challenging & that it was geared more towards my direction, for obvious selfish reasons. Unfortunately it isnt.</p>

So we're gonna see some Dijak, Lee, Brian Cage style flying big men in TVerse 2020, right??

This is priority #1 for me in things that need to get fixed. I dare say its the sole thing I need fixed to seal the deal on me buying it. Plenty of other things need work but this above all else is necessary for me.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="JennyTG" data-cite="JennyTG" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="49170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I´m not sure if there is a suggestion Thread) so I´ll put this one here as it concerns boradcasters.<p> If another thread should make more sens feel free to tell me <img alt=";)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/wink.png.686f06e511ee1fbf6bdc7d82f6831e53.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Concerning Brodcasters...</p><p> </p><p> 1) It would bee cool to have the possibility not only to INCREASE a Region but to decrease or shut down on as well. That would simulate "Geoblcking" quite good. </p><p> F.e. I run my show on my own internet Network and manage to get a TV deal in the USA. I´d like to block my content in the US jet air it in the Rest of the world over my Network. Real Worls example. Fite.tv airs AEW Dynamite wordwide, jet it is blocked in certain Contries as in my home of Germany for we could watch i on "TNTSerie" (a PAY TV Network)...</p><p> As I see it, the only way ingame right now would be shutting down my network and setting up a new one, but that would cost lots of (uneccesary) money</p><p> </p><p> 2)It would be cool, if I could air Shows of other Companies(not just children) much like WWE NEtwork did with evolve (and I think Impact does something like that as well?)</p><p> as a gameplay Example - as COTT Member I could open my Network an doffering other COTT Members Time Slots to air their Shows. That woul beneit me (revenue through the Network) the other Companies as they could air their content even if they ars to small fo a regular Network AND it woul benefit the COTT as they get more recognicion....</p><p> (The only way of doing something like that would be making the other COTT Members my Children - which I do not intend to - I think?)</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> <a href="http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=267" rel="external nofollow">http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=267</a></p><p> </p><p> Suggestion section link. Feel free to create a thread. BTW I agree it would be neat to host other companies on your network and to block certain shows from airing in certain regions since these are things companies do in the real world and to me it doesnt seem too complicated to implement.</p>

Austin Theory began making a name for himself around '16/'17 so the odds are extremely low. I'd say the same for Darby Allin but there were random guys who could probably pass as him if you were being generous. But yeah, a lot of the guys who began blowing up around 2016/18 because of the Indy All-Star boom & WWE snapping up everyone & AEW eventually forming probably dont have comparable guys in the TVerse (yet?). Im talking the David Starr, Keith Lee, Allin, Theory, Riddle, Cassidy, Janela, etc.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaded" data-cite="Jaded" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="49170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>IPW being able to make $2.7m a show within 3 months of the game starting seems a LONG way from right to me. For me, the game is significantly less attractive playing as a small fed when money is so easy to come by it’s basically impossible not to make a profit with ippv.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> How many events did it take for that? I'm trying to think of something.</p>

Worth noting that I just simmed through the game and SAISHO are at about -$400 by the end of March so it looks like they're playable now, at least if you're the AI. EDIT: Also they've gone from 26 to 32 pop during this time while averaging around 60 in show ratings.

Toughest in that they are the most unappealing products in a challenge where your goal is to unseat the most popular and widely appealing promotion in the world. On paper, perhaps the challenge isnt that challenging (though prove it by doing it I always say), but I think once broadcasting revenues get fixed (because they're pretty obscene) this will be more of a relevant challenge. Even so, if you're avoiding show spamming & broadcaster creating, I think this is still a solid challenge, especially if you're playing it genuinely.

Masochist Challenge Although the game seems pretty limited in terms of challenges. I think it would be interesting to use one of the games tougher products (each of which are very difficult to attract sponsors & have extremely limited broadcasting... though with own broadcasters being extremely affordable this is a non factor) as Insignificant to Titanic with the goal of eventually unseating USPW. Ideally if youre doing this you probably want to play with as many rules & preferences on as possible just to make your life slightly more frustrating. And if you really wanted to pull your nails out, you'd also not create your own broadcaster B) But I can see that part being too much lol (also theres probably no point if you go the show spamming route: Here are the toughest products in the game: - Bar Room Entertainment - Deathmatch - Gory Hardcore - Junior Deathmatch - Risque Adult - Slobberknocker-Deathmatch Who doesnt want to see 150K fans packed into a bar room? Or 150K people watching a Pillowfight Hair vs. Hair match?

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="ShaunGBD" data-cite="ShaunGBD" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="49080" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><strong>Can someone explain in detail how to push a guy from 0 pop to 100</strong>. I usually put a bunch in 5 vs 5 and have 5 dominate but I feel like that's not working. I have gimmick effects off I don't run storylines I turn off Face vs heel but I do have momentum effect on.<p> </p><p> Could I get guys over by doing a 5 on 5 with 5 Dominic notes?</p><p> </p><p> Do people have to be on every single show?</p><p> </p><p> How important are TV shows vs pay-per-views when it comes to pushing guys?. In the earlier tew I used to have a guy beat jobbers on my for TV shows and then at the event have him beat another star (but in 16 the guy they beat loses pop bad.. is it the same in 2020?)</p><p> </p><p> I also don't run angles only matches and I have the ratio turned off in 2020</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Realistically should it be that easy. Think about in the real world how many people would theoretically have reached 100 pop. Hulk Hogan & The Rock, maybe. Guys like SCSA, HBK, Taker, etc maybe in the 90s? The rest should reasonably be around the 80s. A 100 pop should be a once in a generation guy. There really should never be more than one or two guys at that in any game world at any point. </p><p> </p><p> But beyond that theres a lot to take into consideration:</p><p> </p><p> Pop caps:</p><p> <img alt="9234d0d667711e7986ffdf19f82abb3d.png" data-src="https://i.gyazo.com/9234d0d667711e7986ffdf19f82abb3d.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Some wrestlers outright cant go 0 to 100. </p><p> </p><p> Theres your company itself:</p><p> <img alt="d52e165ce68ffac8eda36f8e4f9cf216.png" data-src="https://i.gyazo.com/d52e165ce68ffac8eda36f8e4f9cf216.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Audience size:</p><p> <img alt="b5ee87ab16ec18a316e8d802a8cb5c2c.png" data-src="https://i.gyazo.com/b5ee87ab16ec18a316e8d802a8cb5c2c.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Then theres so many tiny things that can effect growth:</p><p> Selfish workers</p><p> A worker willing to make another look good</p><p> </p><p> Though ultimately why not just raise their pop to 100 and save yourself some time?</p>

Have official rules & guide been settled on yet?

*shrug* doesnt bother me one way or another. Logically, people shouldnt be gaining pop/momentum on those touring intent shows too fast so it makes sense. The pop/momentum gain would come when I decide to air one of the touring shows on PGHW World or what have you, and have Kikuchi pin Jimbo in a tag main event to set up their singles match at the coming PPV. Or when Im running PGHW cup, broadcast those shows, and have Simon Flemmingway run through three big names in the tournament ahead of a huge match against Jimbo to present him as a legitimate threat (no id never push Simon that hard lol). On paper it makes sense.

They wouldnt broadcast TV shows, they'd simply broadcast those "constant" events on whatever deal they could get. But this is going to happen whether or not you're doing Constant or Touring. The difference is this: In Touring: SAISHO (i'll use this as the example) will sign two deals with Shogun (a broadcaster) within the first two months because it qualifies. One deal will be for Touring Highlights (you cannot broadcast touring intent shows, instead you sign touring highlight deals for a bit of money/pop maintenance, its EXTREMELY inconsequential, not at all a money maker). The other deal will be to broadcast the event at the end of the tour. This is how companies bigger than SAISHO are able to make some measure of profit because the event deal will usually rack up a decent amount of money from ticket + broadcasting. This is why PGHW goes from 175K to 1M in a month. The PPV deal they have is very lucrative. In Constant: SAISHO will only sign one deal, the same event deal with Shogun. Since all of their events are normal intent, they will ultimately broadcast all their events on there. Much like its unrealistic for Touring to not air anything, its also unrealistic for SAISHO to air everything. This is why I dont advocate for Constant as the solution. Really it should be a balance. Another thing to note: Adam has stated that if a schedule is set as Fixed and the company already has a "Touring Intent" show scheduled, the company will never generate a TV show. But youve nailed it on the head the discrepancy. Touring prevents companies from having access to more broadcasting revenue. If they had a more reasonable amount of Normal Intent then they'd have a far more reasonable income. In the real world, virtually all of the Japanese companies (PGHW to at least 5SSW) would have their own streaming service and would be broadcasting a pretty decent amount (around 40 to 60% imo) of their non-PPV/Major events on there. Then a percentage would be regular tour that would go on the highlights. And another would be their actual PPV. I genuinely feel like in 2020, most companies in the game shouldve had some measure of streaming service but at least the game is set up that they typically all end up on SOMETHING before too long. EVen if the income generated from broadcasting is way too much at the moment. -- Im not very experienced with older mods & how broadcasting works, but yes from what I understand, the game doesnt do an amazing job at replicating how it used to work. Im not sure if thats been altered for 2020 or not with how many broadcasting options there are and with the increasing prominence of the eras feature. I'll have to leave that to people more experienced xD I think its certainly worth discussing about but hopefully this is something mod makers of older eras are figuring out how to deal with in the best way.