Small questions that don't deserve own thread

[Scorpio3060]

How much, if any, does it piss off a non-wrestler if you book them in a once off match?

 

I'm adding a worker that is more of a personality but can see that people might want to book him in a big ppv match every year or two (i guess kind of like a Vince McMahon) and wondering whether i should stick him as an occasional wrestler and let the AI use him wrong, or have him as a non-wrestler and just take a little bit of a hit to his morale from throwing him in a match once in a blue moon.

 

In my 21CW game, Jeff Nova has wrestled in over 125 matches in 3.5 years. He has never complained about wrestling. Although, Donny Damage will complain after 1 match unless I reset his push to road agent.

[FlameSnoopy]

If youh have a tournament title, let's say Money in the Bank, and you have someone defend it in a regular match, lets say at SummerSlam, will this count as a defence or will he win it twice in a row? Like if we have CM Punk defend his MITB contract against Umaga, would this "win" be considered his 3rd MITB -win or just a defence?

[Derek B]

I'm 99% sure it'll simply count as a new winner of the tournament, as tournament titles cannot be defended.

[combinethresher]

I'm running a comedy/indy promotion (kind of like a combination of CHIKARA and PWG) and <strong>Inky the Squid Boy</strong> is on my roster. I like him, and I want to build him up, but I'm not sure who to feud him with. Anyone got any ideas?

[SaySo]

<p>[1] I was wondering what would happen to NYCW overall popularity (currently 25% in Tri-State? Predicated on the following:</p><p> </p><p>

+The young 18-year old new owner is a well-know child prodigy who earned his first million at the age of 13. This company would become a billion dollar producing machine. He purchased NYCW for a good sum of cash that Stomper couldn't refuse. </p><p> </p><p>

+The new owner decides to change NYCW name to NGW (Next Gen Wrestling). He also plans to retire its titles and events. This transformation will anger the loyal fans who stayed with the company. He plans to expand the company to have shows in two other regions besides the tri-state: Southeast and West Coast. Also the product would change with key feature to traditional, mainstream, modern to medium. </p><p> </p><p>

+The new owner is willing to spend $500,000 per year on fixed written contracts or $41,667 per month locked down on written deals. </p><p> </p><p>

+He decides to retain the service of Grandmaster Phunk offering him a written deal that is similar to what SWF would have offered him ($5,000 per month). He would accept a 18 month written deal with the company. </p><p> </p><p>

+A SWF superstar contract (hypothetically) expired recently in December 2007. The new owner offered this superstar a lighter schedule (maximum of two shows per month) with the same offer he would get from either SWF or TCW (no house shows). I also offered him a creative clause in his contract (so i wouldn't job him against his will). The wrestler that i made an offer to is Steve Frehley. I would offer him a 4-year, $30,000 per month which would pay him $15,000 per show. </p><p> </p><p>

+So far, $35,000 of the $41,667 i'm willing to spend would be tied up with Grandmaster Phunk. The next wrestler is Champagne Lover. I would offer him the remainder of the $6,667 to have him work full-time with my new company. </p><p> </p><p>

Now what would the overall popularity be with this new company (from the remains of NYCW) if i were to do all that above?</p><p> </p><p>

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Do you think Steve Frehley accepts the 4-year offer with this company at $30,000 per month + creative control? He'll be the face of the new company. </p><p> </p><p>

Will Champagne Lover be willing to work with my company? How long of a contract would he take?</p><p> </p><p>

Will Grandmaster Phunk accept to sign a 18-month deal? If not, how long?</p><p> </p><p>

Basically the new owner created Amazon.com (in CV that is). He is very well known to the business world as the teen version of Donald Trump. What kind of overness do i give him? He's based from Scottsdale Arizona.</p>

[Derek B]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="SaySo" data-cite="SaySo" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="22607" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>[1] I was wondering what would happen to NYCW overall popularity (currently 25% in Tri-State? Predicated on the following:<p> </p><p> +The young 18-year old new owner is a well-know child prodigy who earned his first million at the age of 13. This company would become a billion dollar producing machine. He purchased NYCW for a good sum of cash that Stomper couldn't refuse. </p><p> </p><p> +The new owner decides to change NYCW name to NGW (Next Gen Wrestling). He also plans to retire its titles and events. This transformation will anger the loyal fans who stayed with the company. He plans to expand the company to have shows in two other regions besides the tri-state: Southeast and West Coast. Also the product would change with key feature to traditional, mainstream, modern to medium. </p><p> </p><p> +The new owner is willing to spend $500,000 per year on fixed written contracts or $41,667 per month locked down on written deals. </p><p> </p><p> +He decides to retain the service of Grandmaster Phunk offering him a written deal that is similar to what SWF would have offered him ($5,000 per month). He would accept a 18 month written deal with the company. </p><p> </p><p> +A SWF superstar contract (hypothetically) expired recently in December 2007. The new owner offered this superstar a lighter schedule (maximum of two shows per month) with the same offer he would get from either SWF or TCW (no house shows). I also offered him a creative clause in his contract (so i wouldn't job him against his will). The wrestler that i made an offer to is Steve Frehley. I would offer him a 4-year, $30,000 per month which would pay him $15,000 per show. </p><p> </p><p> +So far, $35,000 of the $41,667 i'm willing to spend would be tied up with Grandmaster Phunk. The next wrestler is Champagne Lover. I would offer him the remainder of the $6,667 to have him work full-time with my new company. </p><p> </p><p> Now what would the overall popularity be with this new company (from the remains of NYCW) if i were to do all that above?</p><p> </p><p> =================================================</p><p> </p><p> [2]</p><p> Do you think Steve Frehley accepts the 4-year offer with this company at $30,000 per month + creative control? He'll be the face of the new company. </p><p> </p><p> Will Champagne Lover be willing to work with my company? How long of a contract would he take?</p><p> </p><p> Will Grandmaster Phunk accept to sign a 18-month deal? If not, how long?</p><p> </p><p> Basically the new owner created Amazon.com (in CV that is). He is very well known to the business world as the teen version of Donald Trump. What kind of overness do i give him? He's based from Scottsdale Arizona.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> So you are basically trashing NYCW and creating a new promotion? A new promotion with the SWF's brightest young star at the helm... having him take little in the way of an improved contract in exchange for going to a company that is basically just money?</p><p> </p><p> Personally, the scenario needs some work to make sense but it's yours to do with as you please, of course.</p><p> </p><p> So... in terms of the level of popularity your new promotion is at, it'd probably get a fair amount of name value based solely on Frehley's jumping ship from the SWF. That, combined with a fair lump of cash would probably set you up with maybe 40ish popularity across the company at that point based purely on your impactful debut.</p><p> </p><p> And since you are trying to lay claim to being NYCW's successor, maybe boost Tri-State up a bit... you'd be a very big regional company on the brink of cult. You should be able to get Champagne Lover to work with you... you've got spending power galore and I'm sure he'd jump at the chance to expand his horizons to make a lot of cash. Likewise, Grandmaster Phunk would probably be happy to stay with you for pots of cash and the chance to stick it to Richard Eisen for failing to take a chance on him so many years ago.</p><p> </p><p> But I would really treat this as a new promotion... it's not NYCW in any way by this point, it's just a rich guy buying his way into notoriety... kinda like Ted Turner did so long ago. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"></p>

[crayon]

<p>What's the difference between a worker whose status is set (in the editor) to <strong>Semi-Active Wrestler</strong> and one whose Favoured Role is <strong>Occasional Wrestler</strong>?</p><p> </p><p>

And do the two (semi-active and occasional) need to be explicitly used in tandem? If not, what sort of situation would you use an Active Wrestler status in conjunction with an Occasional Wrestler preference, and vice-versa?</p>

[LoganRodzen]

<p>This isn't really a question-question, but more of a question for everyone to see what they do.</p><p> </p><p>

Concerning brands in TEW - how many of you use it? For what purposes do you use it? </p><p> </p><p>

I use it in my CornellVerse game when I actually have enough workers under written contract and use it for house show purposes only. Having 30 guys under written deals and running three different branded house shows is a nice financial booster. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> I don't split up TV shows or PPVs, just house shows. Anyone else do something similar / differently?</p>

[Briskout]

I used it for tours. I had an international brand in my NOTBPW game which was guys who were either not on par with NOTBPW talent wise or were more over elsewhere. For a while guys like Champaigne Lover and Soul Taker would main event my international shows in Mexico until I got enough overness to expand my TV show into Mexico. Did the same thing in Japan, except now it was guys like Hell Monkey, Jimmy Cox, Pete Hall etc on the international show while the Mexican stars were moved to the main show. This has been helpful as both a way to boost popularity outside of Canada/US without TV shows as well as help guys get more talented. It also keeps people happy despite not being booked on the weekly TV show. I'm not sure if anyone else does it although I suspect James Casey might in his MAW game. At least I assume that because that's how I got the idea.

[crayon]

What's the difference between a worker whose status is set (in the editor) to Semi-Active Wrestler and one whose Favoured Role is Occasional Wrestler?

 

And do the two (semi-active and occasional) need to be explicitly used in tandem? If not, what sort of situation would you use an Active Wrestler status in conjunction with an Occasional Wrestler preference, and vice-versa?

 

I'm gonna requote myself here just coz I really would love to know the answer to this one.. surely at least one person has got to know?

[FINisher]

I'm gonna requote myself here just coz I really would love to know the answer to this one.. surely at least one person has got to know?

 

I think it's the amount of matches they can do without getting mad at you / overused.

[crayon]

I think it's the amount of matches they can do without getting mad at you / overused.

 

Thanks for the reply, but that still leaves a lot unanswered as to the differences—if any—between the two. It's a lot clearer when comparing status against status or favoured role against favoured role.. but then the status relation to the favoured role, especially when used in seemingly contradictive combinations, just escapes me.

[James Casey]

I was browsing the editor the other day, and notced that a lot of promotions have 'linked' dojos (House of Stone, for example).

 

Does this have any effect when workers graduate? Are they loyal to their trainers, or automatically assigned to that company's roster or anything?

 

If not, then I have some suggestions for the next version

[Actarus]

I was browsing the editor the other day, and notced that a lot of promotions have 'linked' dojos (House of Stone, for example).

 

Does this have any effect when workers graduate? Are they loyal to their trainers, or automatically assigned to that company's roster or anything?

 

If not, then I have some suggestions for the next version

 

If you mean by 'linked', you mean that a dojo is affiliated to a promotion (House of Stone to NOTBPW, Supreme Wrestling University to SWF, etc.) that 'linkage' isn't like the parent company promotion pact. It's more there for storyline purposes but doesn't affect gameplay per se for the promotion itself.

 

Where dojos come into affect in-game is for characters in the database (both current and debuting) and computer-generated characters. For example, future debuting worker Andrew Lee graduated 21CW's school in 2013.

 

Assuming you turned 'computer-generated characters' to debut January 2008 rather than the default January 2026, you'll see some computer generated character with a bio like: 'Jack Action is a technical wrestler that graduated the House of Stone in February 2010' or 'John Awesome' is a manager that graduated the Piledriver School of Wrestling in May 2009, etc. These debuting workers appear in the gameworld unemployed, with no apparent ties to the promotion linked to the school, trainer, etc.

 

The difference is that the higher prestige of the dojo the worker graduated from, the better the worker statistically (doesn't apply for future workers already in the database, obviously), and possibly destiny stat wise as well (though I'm unsure of this, though it makes sense in my mind). Oh, and in the title history of said worker, that graduation accomplishment will be noted.

[Terminator980]

I'm not sure if its a question more then just a suggestion, but here it goes.

 

My company JUST HIT Cult and, of course, I have a big problem. Since production and everything now costs an arm and a leg, i was wondering if anyone had any suggestions on at least trying to break even so i'm not left with $204 after two months. Heres a few things:

 

I backed up my save right as I hit Cult, and also is in August so I can get a new TV deal.

 

In a save I'm working on now, I got a new TV deal that I get 30% of the revenue and I also have a PPV deal. I ran an experiment with a PPV and I only scored $9,000 after a C+ show, so if I ran 4 TV tapings in a month and a PPV, I'm still no where near breaking even.

 

Nobody seems to want to pick up any of the cost for production.

 

I'm going through contracts as we speak to see who can be cut (downside agreements).

[FINisher]

I'm not sure if its a question more then just a suggestion, but here it goes.

 

My company JUST HIT Cult and, of course, I have a big problem. Since production and everything now costs an arm and a leg, i was wondering if anyone had any suggestions on at least trying to break even so i'm not left with $204 after two months. Heres a few things:

 

I backed up my save right as I hit Cult, and also is in August so I can get a new TV deal.

 

In a save I'm working on now, I got a new TV deal that I get 30% of the revenue and I also have a PPV deal. I ran an experiment with a PPV and I only scored $9,000 after a C+ show, so if I ran 4 TV tapings in a month and a PPV, I'm still no where near breaking even.

 

Nobody seems to want to pick up any of the cost for production.

 

I'm going through contracts as we speak to see who can be cut (downside agreements).

 

Better PPV deal.. Maybe. Try concentrating on the region you are most popular. I seriously hope that you have that biggest region somewhere near C- to C popularity? If it's in the D to D+ range, you're in big trouble.

[Terminator980]

I'm based out of the south west and yea, my popularity is at C-. Here's the bad part. My popularity is mainly in Mexico (for some reason I really had some good shows down there and was able to score a TV deal). It's rated at C-, D+, D. So my TV deal is based in Mexico and the south west. The only PPV deal I was able to get was (sadly) based in Mexico. So in order to get moved up to Cult I started my TV tapings in the North West. So...thats the situation I'm in, lol

[Derek B]

I'm based out of the south west and yea, my popularity is at C-. Here's the bad part. My popularity is mainly in Mexico (for some reason I really had some good shows down there and was able to score a TV deal). It's rated at C-, D+, D. So my TV deal is based in Mexico and the south west. The only PPV deal I was able to get was (sadly) based in Mexico. So in order to get moved up to Cult I started my TV tapings in the North West. So...thats the situation I'm in, lol

 

You're not gonna like this advice.... drop back down to regional. Deliberately hold some bad shows and take the popularity hit in your second region. Then ditch your Mexican TV deal while you slowly build up to getting a TV deal across the US. Hold all your shows in your home turf to build up your popularity there before you get your new TV deal.

 

Don't go back up to cult til you've built up a lot of money. Keep running shows in Mexico if you like, you are popular there so you can probably still make money... but I'd focus on your home base, build that up to at least a strong C or C+ before you hit Cult. Then make sure to get PPV so you can make more money on your bigger events and rapidly grow your way to about D+ national popuarlity... I find that's a comfortable level in the US to maintain decent money.

[Terminator980]

You're not gonna like this advice.... drop back down to regional. Deliberately hold some bad shows and take the popularity hit in your second region. Then ditch your Mexican TV deal while you slowly build up to getting a TV deal across the US. Hold all your shows in your home turf to build up your popularity there before you get your new TV deal.

 

Don't go back up to cult til you've built up a lot of money. Keep running shows in Mexico if you like, you are popular there so you can probably still make money... but I'd focus on your home base, build that up to at least a strong C or C+ before you hit Cult. Then make sure to get PPV so you can make more money on your bigger events and rapidly grow your way to about D+ national popuarlity... I find that's a comfortable level in the US to maintain decent money.

 

Sounds good by me. I shall give that a try right now

[James Casey]

So, how much money a month do you need to be making to break even at Cult?

 

Assuming a weekly TV show and monthly PPVs, anyway. I know that promotion costs will vary, but there doesn't seem to be a stated amount. 100k? 200k? More?

[benjacko]

Going by my experience, it's around 100-150k lost per month when hitting Cult but i'm sure if you build up your home region to a high level, it'll be alot less and even making profits.

[Comradebot]

I'd say if you can run a tv show where you're at 90% revenue, your home region is at a C or C+ in popularity, and you can get a PPV deal that you get revenue from... then you'll be okay.

 

Really, the thing that puts me over the top each month with EWA is the ticket sales to my PPV events. It's the biggest payoff. Though I think I'd slightly be in the red without TV revenue.

[Phantom Stranger]

Really, the thing that puts me over the top each month with EWA is the ticket sales to my PPV events. It's the biggest payoff. Though I think I'd slightly be in the red without TV revenue.

 

Sponsorship also helps heavily, assuming the right product to optimise it.

[WeeMan]

I've got a question about products and types of wrestlers - if I have for example Realism on None, does it mean, that I CAN'T use Brawlers, or they will have very low ratings? Can someone explain to me how does it work? The same thing with MMA Crossovers - I have a fair share of them, but in my fed there is no Hyper Realism... Will their matches suck?

 

I'd be thankful for an explanation about those products and types of wrestlers connection, I did see it in the Official Tip Thread, but it was short and didn't answer all of my questions/doubts...

 

Thanks in advance.

[FINisher]

I've got a question about products and types of wrestlers - if I have for example Realism on None, does it mean, that I CAN'T use Brawlers, or they will have very low ratings? Can someone explain to me how does it work? The same thing with MMA Crossovers - I have a fair share of them, but in my fed there is no Hyper Realism... Will their matches suck?

 

You can use brawlers and I think that you shouldn't get low ratings if their skills match with the product. What is your product btw?

 

I'd be thankful for an explanation about those products and types of wrestlers connection, I did see it in the Official Tip Thread, but it was short and didn't answer all of my questions/doubts...

 

In my experience and what I've read it's about wrestler getting pushed differently. If you have a psychopath and regular wrestler with somewhat the same skills and popularity levels in GCG for example, the regular wrestler will get a better push because of his wrestling type. It is harder for someone who doesn't "belong" to the product to get over I guess. And by over I mean the push status. They can certainly do it but it takes a little more effort to get there. Could very well be that I'm talking nonsense here as I just woke up and quite frankly I'm stunned of the DOTM Cornellverse poll situation

 

I'm sure there was a good explanation about this wrestler not belonging to the product from derek_b or from someone else. I really am not sure if I'm right in this subject.