The Official WWE / NXT Discussion Thread *May Contain Spoilers*

[Blackman]

Trips on RAW would be a fresh take on the formula. In any event, the autority angle has run its course. Let's not have that anymore. I'm liking the rumor it's Daniel Bryan, but there could be better alternatives (though I can't come up with any atm except BookerT). I'm also curious to the nature of the brand extension. Ready to be surprised. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />

[thecoolestjedi12]

Cruiserweight Classic was fantastic, awesome seeing Ibushi main Eventing!

[K-Nection]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="thecoolestjedi12" data-cite="thecoolestjedi12" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Cruiserweight Classic was fantastic, awesome seeing Ibushi main Eventing!</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I have a feeling HoHo Lun is going far just because WWE is trying to break into China and will need homegrown stars to sell the product to them. The sad thing is his opponent impressed me way more than HoHo but let's hope he shines in the next one.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> First match I ever saw Ibushi in and it was fantastic! Maluda was made to look like a million bucks as well.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Brock Lesnar ended up failing an anti-doping test. It's kind of crap that UFC may have kept it hush hush until it was WWE's turn to use him.</p><p> </p><p> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSTgWY7Fpqc" rel="external nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSTgWY7Fpqc</a></p><p> </p><p> <a href="http://www.wwe.com/article/brock-lesnar-anti-doping-policy-violation" rel="external nofollow">http://www.wwe.com/article/brock-lesnar-anti-doping-policy-violation</a></p>

[niall2015]

I wonder if Dana made Brock apologise to the UFC locker room

[Mootinie]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="K-Nection" data-cite="K-Nection" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>First match I ever saw Ibushi in and it was fantastic!</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Here, spoil yourself with the following: </p><p> </p><ul><li>Ibushi vs. Nakamura (G1 Climax 2013)<br /></li><li>Ibushi vs. Okada (42nd Strong Style Anniversary Show)<br /></li><li>Ibushi vs. Ishii (Return to Yokohama Arena)<br /></li><li>Ibushi vs. Ricochet (Dominion 6.21)<br /></li><li>Ibushi vs. Nakamura (Wrestle Kingdom 9) <br /></li><li>Ibushi vs. Styles (Invasion Attack 2015)<br /></li></ul><p></p><p> </p><p> No word of a lie, they are all close to; if not, five star wrestling matches.</p>

[smurphy1014]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Mootinie" data-cite="Mootinie" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Here, spoil yourself with the following: <p> </p><ul><li>Ibushi vs. Nakamura (G1 Climax 2013)<br /></li><li>Ibushi vs. Okada (42nd Strong Style Anniversary Show)<br /></li><li>Ibushi vs. Ishii (Return to Yokohama Arena)<br /></li><li>Ibushi vs. Ricochet (Dominion 6.21)<br /></li><li>Ibushi vs. Nakamura (Wrestle Kingdom 9) <br /></li><li>Ibushi vs. Styles (Invasion Attack 2015)<br /></li></ul><p></p><p> </p><p> No word of a lie, they are all close to; if not, five star wrestling matches.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> The 4 way he had in Chikara with Nick Jackson, Jigsaw and El Generico is quite good as well.</p>

[K-Nection]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Mootinie" data-cite="Mootinie" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Here, spoil yourself with the following: <p> </p><ul><li>Ibushi vs. Nakamura (G1 Climax 2013)<br /></li><li>Ibushi vs. Okada (42nd Strong Style Anniversary Show)<br /></li><li>Ibushi vs. Ishii (Return to Yokohama Arena)<br /></li><li>Ibushi vs. Ricochet (Dominion 6.21)<br /></li><li>Ibushi vs. Nakamura (Wrestle Kingdom 9) <br /></li><li>Ibushi vs. Styles (Invasion Attack 2015)<br /></li></ul><p></p><p> </p><p> No word of a lie, they are all close to; if not, five star wrestling matches.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I swear you have been my gateway into Japanese wrestling. I'm a huge Ibushi fan and can't wait to see him and Nakumara be featured on a Mania!</p>

[Rone Rivendale]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="K-Nection" data-cite="K-Nection" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I swear you have been my gateway into Japanese wrestling. I'm a huge Ibushi fan and can't wait to see him and Nakumara be featured on a Mania!</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Pro Wrestling is a hell of a drug! - Rick James 2016</p>

[milamber]

<p><img alt="20160713_SD_DRAFT_AmbroseRollinsSasha_2--9892fb364dabd6beece535793592e168.0.jpg" data-src="https://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/6AGw5zEMsTdNqNjbmUNcRs9ptyQ=/94x0:1107x675/709x473/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/50138413/20160713_SD_DRAFT_AmbroseRollinsSasha_2--9892fb364dabd6beece535793592e168.0.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p>

The rules for the WWE Draft are as follows:</p><p> </p><p>

<strong>RAW has the first overall pick</strong></p><p><strong> </strong></p><p><strong>

Since SmackDown Live is a two-hour show and Raw is three hours, for every two picks SmackDown Live receives, Raw will receive three picks</strong></p><p><strong> </strong></p><p><strong>

Tag Teams count as one pick unless a Commissioner/General Manager specifically only wants one member of the team</strong></p><p><strong> </strong></p><p><strong>

Six draft picks will be made off the NXT roster</strong></p><p> </p><p>

The list of current WWE Superstars eligible for the WWE Draft will be as follows:</p><p> </p><p>

<strong>Male Superstars:</strong></p><p> </p><p>

AJ Styles</p><p>

Alberto Del Rio</p><p>

Apollo Crews</p><p>

Baron Corbin</p><p>

Big Show</p><p>

Braun Strowman</p><p>

Bray Wyatt</p><p>

Brock Lesnar</p><p>

Cesaro</p><p>

Chris Jericho</p><p>

Darren Young (w/ Bob Backlund)</p><p>

Dean Ambrose – WWE Champion</p><p>

Demon Kane</p><p>

Dolph Ziggler</p><p>

Erick Rowan</p><p>

Jack Swagger</p><p>

John Cena</p><p>

Kalisto</p><p>

Kevin Owens</p><p>

Mark Henry</p><p>

Neville</p><p>

Randy Orton</p><p>

Roman Reigns</p><p>

Rusev (w/ Lana) – United States Champion</p><p>

Sami Zayn</p><p>

Seth Rollins</p><p>

Sheamus</p><p>

Sin Cara</p><p>

The Miz (w/ Maryse) – Intercontinental Champion</p><p>

Titus O’Neil</p><p>

Zack Ryder</p><p> </p><p>

<strong>Tag Teams:</strong></p><p> </p><p>

Breezango (Fandango and Tyler Breeze)</p><p>

Enzo and Cass (Enzo Amore and Big Cass)</p><p>

Gallows and Anderson (Luke Gallows and Karl Anderson)</p><p>

Golden Truth (Goldust and R-Truth)</p><p>

Shining Stars (Epico and Primo)</p><p>

Social Outcasts (Bo Dallas, Curtis Axel and Heath Slater)</p><p>

The Ascension (Konnor and Viktor)</p><p>

The Dudley Boyz (Bubba Ray and D-Von Dudley)</p><p>

The New Day (Big E, Kofi Kingston and Xavier Woods) – Tag Team Champions</p><p>

The Usos (Jey and Jimmy Uso)</p><p>

The Vaudevillains (Aiden English and Simon Gotch)</p><p> </p><p>

<strong>Female Superstars:</strong></p><p> </p><p>

Alicia Fox</p><p>

Becky Lynch</p><p>

Charlotte – WWE Women’s Champion</p><p>

Dana Brooke</p><p>

Eva Marie</p><p>

Naomi</p><p>

Natalya</p><p>

Paige</p><p>

Sasha Banks</p><p>

Summer Rae</p>

[iruleall15]

I already dont care about this stupid draft. Why are New Day and Social Jobbers a team. Yet the Wyatts are not? How is that logical? The Wyatts are the longest running stable in WWE. They should be the only stable worth being labeled a team. Pure trash that the WWE has 0 consistency with its product.

[milamber]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="iruleall15" data-cite="iruleall15" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I already dont care about this stupid draft. Why are New Day and Social Jobbers a team. Yet the Wyatts are not? How is that logical? The Wyatts are the longest running stable in WWE. They should be the only stable worth being labeled a team. Pure trash that the WWE has 0 consistency with its product.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Chill out, man. I fully expect New Day to be drafted as solo acts and to lose at Battleground. Bray Wyatt could benefit from being solo for awhile. With 3 followers (when they're all fit) it looks bad when he loses so many feuds. It makes sense to break them up so Rowan and Strowman can be used as enhancement talent and Harper can bolster the midcard. Social Outcasts will probably be split up for the same reason.</p><p> </p><p> American Alpha and The Revival are my expected NXT tag team draft picks. Maybe Mojo so they have the option of Hype Bros to replace Lucha Dragons.</p>

[iruleall15]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="milamber" data-cite="milamber" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Chill out, man. I fully expect New Day to be drafted as solo acts and to lose at Battleground. Bray Wyatt could benefit from being solo for awhile. With 3 followers (when they're all fit) it looks bad when he loses so many feuds. It makes sense to break them up so Rowan and Strowman can be used as enhancement talent and Harper can bolster the midcard. Social Outcasts will probably be split up for the same reason.<p> </p><p> American Alpha and The Revival are my expected NXT tag team draft picks. Maybe Mojo so they have the option of Hype Bros to replace Lucha Dragons.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> But the Wyatt family is exactly that... Bray is a cult leader... What kind of cult leader is he without ya know... a cult following him. But regardless. I want consistency. Why are they not considered a stable also? Just stupid to put all the other groups together but not the Wyatts. Its obvious they are splitting them up</p>

[Russelrules44]

Chill out, man. I fully expect New Day to be drafted as solo acts and to lose at Battleground. Bray Wyatt could benefit from being solo for awhile. With 3 followers (when they're all fit) it looks bad when he loses so many feuds. It makes sense to break them up so Rowan and Strowman can be used as enhancement talent and Harper can bolster the midcard. Social Outcasts will probably be split up for the same reason.

 

American Alpha and The Revival are my expected NXT tag team draft picks. Maybe Mojo so they have the option of Hype Bros to replace Lucha Dragons.

 

I applaud the post man, but you're dealing with an irrational Wyatt fan here.

 

An irrational fan of a wrestler is kind of like an antithesis to an irrational hater of a wrestler. They love the wrestler a lot and have amazingly high hopes for them, anything lower and it's considered a 'burial' in their eyes.

 

They also have a big issue when someone gives out constructive criticism to their wrestler when there are real issues with the wrestler in question and are very vocal about their love for a wrestler.

 

That's basically iruleall in a nutshell. He really loves The Wyatt Family and will not stop loving them until the day they retire. It's the Warhawk situation with Roman Reigns all over again.

 

My advice?: Don't talk to the brick wall at the end of the sidewalk.

[mitsukaikira]

Bray Wyatt != The Wyatt Family. They will do fine without him for a bit. And really, he needs to be solo. The Family is what was holding him back IMO.

[shawn michaels]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="mitsukaikira" data-cite="mitsukaikira" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Bray Wyatt != The Wyatt Family. They will do fine without him for a bit. And really, he needs to be solo. The Family is what was holding him back IMO.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Whats holding him back is the booking. If WWE wanted him as ME he would be there by now. Lets hope this brand split will bring more opportunities to everyone.</p>

[Russelrules44]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="shawn michaels 82" data-cite="shawn michaels 82" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Whats holding him back is the booking. If WWE wanted him as ME he would be there by now. Lets hope this brand split will bring more opportunities to everyone.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It worked for a little while last time. (Chris Benoit, Chris Jericho, Rob Van Dam, Booker T, Batista, John Cena, etc) It just might again.</p>

[iruleall15]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Russelrules44" data-cite="Russelrules44" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I applaud the post man, but you're dealing with an irrational Wyatt fan here.<p> </p><p> An irrational fan of a wrestler is kind of like an antithesis to an irrational hater of a wrestler. They love the wrestler a lot and have amazingly high hopes for them, anything lower and it's considered a 'burial' in their eyes.</p><p> </p><p> They also have a big issue when someone gives out constructive criticism to their wrestler when there are real issues with the wrestler in question and are very vocal about their love for a wrestler.</p><p> </p><p> That's basically iruleall in a nutshell. He really loves The Wyatt Family and will not stop loving them until the day they retire. It's the Warhawk situation with Roman Reigns all over again.</p><p> </p><p> My advice?: Don't talk to the brick wall at the end of the sidewalk.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Says the delusional fan who doesn't seen how illogical this brand split is. Why are Wyatt's and Lucks Dragons split? Besides the fact WWE wants them all to be split up its still stupid. Stop using your pathetic dislike of me cloud your terrible judgment.</p><p> </p><p> This situation is no different than WWE not defending a title for 4 month's straight whole telling the next.chamoifp he doesn't follow the 30 day rule he will be stripped. Logic. I'm sorry I can use that better than you can.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> I want consistency. If you counts teams as a team. All teams should be a team. Not some because tje company wants to break up a stable. Wyatt's or not it doesn't take a genius to see how illogical this is.</p>

[packerman120]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="iruleall15" data-cite="iruleall15" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Says the delusional fan who doesn't seen how illogical this brand split is. Why are Wyatt's and Lucks Dragons split? Besides the fact WWE wants them all to be split up its still stupid. Stop using your pathetic dislike of me cloud your terrible judgment.<p> </p><p> This situation is no different than WWE not defending a title for 4 month's straight whole telling the next.chamoifp he doesn't follow the 30 day rule he will be stripped. Logic. I'm sorry I can use that better than you can.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> I want consistency. If you counts teams as a team. All teams should be a team. Not some because tje company wants to break up a stable. Wyatt's or not it doesn't take a genius to see how illogical this is.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> Who are the Lucks Dragons? Also, what's a chamoifp?</p>

[smurphy1014]

Whose to say that if the Wyatts get split up that they will follow the rules? You could have them bouncing from show to show terrorizing everyone.

[Big Roguey]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="iruleall15" data-cite="iruleall15" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Says the delusional fan who doesn't seen how illogical this brand split is. Why are Wyatt's and Lucks Dragons split? Besides the fact WWE wants them all to be split up its still stupid. Stop using your pathetic dislike of me cloud your terrible judgment.<p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Probably because they can use this to at least try and give people something to do rather than "random tag body #3" or "Big Bearded Bodyguard #2". With two shows needing two rosters, it potentially means that now everyone has something to do.</p><p> </p><p> It frees up people like Luke Harper and Erick Rowan to attempt to once again have individual characters rather than just being lackeys for a deathly stale Bray Wyatt - a gimmick that should probably be killed off by now as any purpose it once had is long gone. Kalisto gets to slot into that Rey Mysterio role full time now which, if luck comes into it, means he'll get a good group of people to play off of. I'm all ready for a new Smackdown Six.</p><p> </p><p> And stooping to personal insults makes your entire argument look childish. It's 2016, we should all be able to discuss matters like mature adults rather than slinging mud at each other and shouting about why your opinion/favourites/salsa sauce is far better than anyone else's opinion/favourites/salsa sauce.</p>

[Teh_Showtime]

<p>Let's be completely honest here, in the three years they've been on the roster, what exactly have the Wyatt family done that was remotely interesting? They had the shield feud for a month or so, and then the Cena feud before that turned into a joke.</p><p> </p><p>

Maybe with two positive things in three whole years, it could be time to do something new. Heaven forbid any of that happens</p>

[shawn michaels]

Foley as GM, how will that work, i'm curious. And Raw gets the CW division. I wonder what they have in store for Smackdown. I was fine with just watching RAW, but now i might also watch SD regularly again. I really hope this works well.

[Tha Black Phenom]

<p>Bray Wyatt needs revamping in some column. They were trying to test a face run with him before he got injured post-Mania.</p><p> </p><p>

While wanting consistency from WWE is only fair because they haven't been the best in that department, nothing about this shows to me a lack of consistency from their end. They can choose to do whatever they want with the Wyatt family. If they'll keep them together, great(as long as they do something interesting with them). But if they don't, fine. Not keeping them together would not be any sign of "inconsistency" but purely that they may have plans set up for Rowan/Harper/Bray/Strowman down the stretch and what exactly is wrong with that, when you really think about it</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>

It's clear as day that those guys won't be tag team partners/stable members forever. They've done their fair share of "terrorizing" the roster, they even had somewhat of a stronghold during the Royal Rumble match for a good few minutes because Lesnar became the next entrant. I feel like they've done the world with them, and maybe now that they're shaking things up, they might shake things up in more than one department.</p><p> </p><p>

In fact, just touting them as the "longest running stable in the WWE"(not bothered to check whether that's true or not, but I'll take it) may just be the writing on the wall...</p>

[guyver3]

WWE also just put up a video of lucha dragons deciding to go there separate ways and enter the draft as singles competitors maybe Bray will have some promo saying something similar like the last time he released Harper and Rowan

[Russelrules44]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="iruleall15" data-cite="iruleall15" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Says the delusional fan who doesn't seen how illogical this brand split is. Why are Wyatt's and Lucks Dragons split? Besides the fact WWE wants them all to be split up its still stupid. Stop using your pathetic dislike of me cloud your terrible judgment.<p> </p><p> This situation is no different than WWE not defending a title for 4 month's straight whole telling the next.chamoifp he doesn't follow the 30 day rule he will be stripped. Logic. I'm sorry I can use that better than you can.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> I want consistency. If you counts teams as a team. All teams should be a team. Not some because tje company wants to break up a stable. Wyatt's or not it doesn't take a genius to see how illogical this is.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Where in that sentence I posted did I say I didn't like you? All I was doing was pointing out that there were better things to do than argue with you over things that could easily be settled.</p><p> </p><p> You have opinions, I have opinions too; that's fine. But when you produce them in a way that makes me want to roll my eyes and say, "Ok, we get the message" that's where I have a problem.</p><p> </p><p> This isn't the first time this has happened iruleall. Remember the mess we had with Warhawk over Roman Reigns? I don't plan or want to have a problem like that again. I'm not saying i'm right and you're wrong, what i'm saying is that you need to think about what you say and how you say it.</p><p> </p><p> (And like MHero said, insults cross you off as very childish. This is supposed to be a discussion thread, not a poop-throwing contest)</p>