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The Official WWE / NXT Discussion Thread *May Contain Spoilers*


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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="iruleall15" data-cite="iruleall15" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Who is Jonathan? Assuming its some Total Divas than no. That wont get her fired because its all scripted. 1000000% pre scripted drama. TD is the only reason shes with the company</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Jonathan is her husband who has been putting tweets out about how it's I just and her fans should show their outrage, and blah blah blah. How she's the face of the company and they are going to be hurting without her...</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="moon_lit_tears" data-cite="moon_lit_tears" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Jonathan is her husband who has been putting tweets out about how it's I just and her fans should show their outrage, and blah blah blah. How she's the face of the company and they are going to be hurting without her...</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Most likely on the payroll to cause do this kinda drama</p>
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<p>Predictions For Takeover: Brooklyn II (based on how I would book NXT long term which I probably though too hard about <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />):</p><p> </p><p>

Bayley vs <strong>Asuka</strong> (As much I'd like Bayley to win there are no heels deserving of a title shot in the near future)</p><p> </p><p>

<strong>Joe</strong> vs Nakamura (I want Nakamura to win but Joe only just became Champ so he should retain and make Nakamura jump through hoops for a rematch to prove his point against Regal)</p><p> </p><p>

<strong>Aries</strong> vs No Way Jose (Not sure on this one. An Aries loss could be an interesting storyline but this feud could get boring fast)</p><p> </p><p>

The Revival vs <strong>Ciampa & Gargano</strong> (The Revival retain via DQ leading to a rematch where Ciampa & Gargano win)</p><p> </p><p>

<strong>Roode</strong> vs Almas (Cien needs a good performance not a win and Roode is too glorious to lose <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />)</p><p> </p><p>

<strong>Ember</strong> vs Billie (I'd rather Billie win to become a credible heel and give Ember an underdog build ala Sami Zayn but I doubt Ember loses on her debut)</p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Mootinie" data-cite="Mootinie" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Mandatory reminder that Eva Marie throws herself back, neck and head first into the ground just to entertain you.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Awfully nice of her, but my entertainment stops after her ring entrance is done. Usually, her opponents take over from there. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Blackman" data-cite="Blackman" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Awfully nice of her, but my entertainment stops after her ring entrance is done. Usually, her opponents take over from there. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I doubt this very much... She could be somerhing more adult friendly if she wants to entertain us if u catch my drift <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>
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(I'm not as patient as Derek, spoilers below :p)

 

That was my first live WWE PPV in over 5 years, and holy crap was it amazing. Roode's entrance! Nakamura's entrance! All of the matches were at least 'good', even Billie Kay vs. Ember Moon was very watchable. For me the MOTN was the tag title match. Even Cory Graves couldn't ruin it. :p

 

It was a fantastic return to late nights watching wrestling, for me. Loved it all.

 

I'm totally down for an Aries/Itami feud, and hopefully we get Roode/Nakamura next too (if nothing else, that'd really piss Joe off in-character :p).

 

Ember Moon's debut was pretty good, love the finisher. Hope they don't move straight on to Moon/Asuka, because I like watching (but hate listening to!) Billie Kay. Bayley's clearly going to the main roster, so I don't have to listen to her sob story. This pleases me.

 

The main event didn't blow me away, but it was solid and a feelgood end to the show (also, dat entrance though!). Overall, loved it.

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NXT Takeover - Brooklyn II:

 

No Way Jose vs Aries - Solid match that ran about 5 minutes too long. Enjoyed the setup for an Itami/Aries feud and GTS! Jose is elevating a low-ceiling gimmick with enthusiam and stiff wrestling.

Billie vs Ember - Solid match. I like Ember's look and moveset but I expected a grander entrance. Billie needs to start winning even if she has to cheat.

Roode vs Almas - Solid match. Almas looked better. I'm happy Roode got a glorious entrance but his finisher looks weak.

Gargano & Ciampa vs The Revival - My MOTN with a smart result.

Bayley vs Asuka - Great match. I only wish Asuka had gone full heel. Bayley deserved her standing ovation.

Nakamura vs Joe - Great match. I'm almost in shock that Nakamura won. I wonder if Joe is heading to the main roster soon. The live violin entrance gave me chills.

 

Verdict: Another consistently good Takeover. It's awesome watching a PPV/Special where there's no need for weak filler matches.

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What's it like at the live events? Do you get the play by play commentary? I can see how that could get annoying.

 

Yeah, Billie Kay vs Ember Moon was probably the weakest match on the card, and still was enjoyable to watch. I think the women's division still is in a bit of a dire state right now. If Bayley leaves now, who is going to challenge Asuka? Billie Kay does not look ready, and there's not really anybody else either. My guess is that we'll see some new signings soon, of the kind we've seen recently on the men's side - wrestlers ready to step into the action now, rather than prospects that need years to build.

 

One thing about Andrade Almas. What kind of gimmick is that? What is he trying to be, and do they seriously think people are going to latch on to a guy that enters the room dressed like that? It just seems weird to me. He is an excellent wrestler, but it's almost like they're actively trying to avoid him building any hype. Or is it just me that's so out of touch?

 

The tag team match was absolutely the match of the night, Gargano & Ciampa are stars in the making and it is hard to fathom that they've been around so long without people in the know seeing their potential. Better late than ever I guess.

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Dr_Avalanche" data-cite="Dr_Avalanche" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> </p><p> One thing about Andrade Almas. What kind of gimmick is that? What is he trying to be, and do they seriously think people are going to latch on to a guy that enters the room dressed like that? It just seems weird to me. He is an excellent wrestler, but it's almost like they're actively trying to avoid him building any hype. Or is it just me that's so out of touch?</p><p> </p><p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Not that this will be much to the Almas discussion but every time I see him, the American Males theme plays in my head but it says Mexican Males rather than American Males.</p>
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Echoing everyone else but takeover was GLORIOUS. Roode does need a new finisher though is that what he used in TNA? I wouldn't be surprised if Joe is getting called up soon especially if Finn wins tonight. I hope Bayley isn't called up right away though that's only because I'm going to see NXT in September and she's my daughters favorite. Really as has been pointed out already who else is ready to challenge Asuka after last night?
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="guyver3" data-cite="guyver3" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Echoing everyone else but takeover was GLORIOUS. Roode does need a new finisher though is that what he used in TNA? I wouldn't be surprised if Joe is getting called up soon especially if Finn wins tonight. I hope Bayley isn't called up right away though that's only because I'm going to see NXT in September and she's my daughters favorite. Really as has been pointed out already who else is ready to challenge Asuka after last night?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I might be alone but with the call ups of literally every female wrestler they have pushed overt he past year besides the champ Asuka and now Bayley. You have a champion and literally jobbers. There is not a single female on the roster I care about in NXT. I think the womens division will be heavily toned back ever further than it has been since Sasha and company got the call up</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="guyver3" data-cite="guyver3" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Echoing everyone else but takeover was GLORIOUS. Roode does need a new finisher though is that what he used in TNA? I wouldn't be surprised if Joe is getting called up soon especially if Finn wins tonight. I hope Bayley isn't called up right away though that's only because I'm going to see NXT in September and she's my daughters favorite. Really as has been pointed out already who else is ready to challenge Asuka after last night?</div></blockquote><p> I remember Roode having several different finishers in TNA, but not the Pumphandle Slam unless he used that in his last couple of years after I stopped watching. He definitely used the Western Lariat and Crossface at different points.</p><p> </p><p> Joe absolutely should be called up right away. So should Bayley, and Nakamura (though that one won't be happening any time soon now that they've stuck the belt on him.) I think this was likely the swan song for both Joe and Bayley down there though.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Russelrules44" data-cite="Russelrules44" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Damn, that was a five stars worthy match. Also, I think that was the first time anyone has ever defeated Cena twice in a feud. Is that a sign that Cena's time is up?</div></blockquote><p> Punk beat him on back to back PPVs during the Summer of Punk, but neither of those were anywhere near as clean or decisive as tonight.</p><p> </p><p> I don't think it's a sign of anything other than him going away for a bit to film that reality show.</p>
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<p>going to avoid reading anything yet as I'm just starting on takeover and will likely not get to the WWE PPV until tomorrow, but Ember Moon has it. If that's how she consistently performs, I think they dropped the ball by having her on NXT. I'd have had her as a surprise champion for whatever women's title the end up putting on smackdown or have her a be a surprise to beat Sasha on Raw. She's one of few people in the women's division where every single thing she did had a purpose and she looked legit because of it.</p><p> </p><p>

Watching Roode's entrance as we speak. Not sure what to think, but the crowd is eating it up. We may need to petition Adam to add "the crowd is chanting glorious and singing Bobby's theme song' as an option for road agent note.</p><p> </p><p>

Storm got suspended on TNA, wondering if there's any chance he's being written out and could end up back at NXT.</p>

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