The Official WWE / NXT Discussion Thread *May Contain Spoilers*

[The Final Countdown]

The show was fine. That was a pretty underwhelming way for Taker to go out. I get what they were going for, but it just didn't work. It won't help Roman at all either. Still, I'm glad he's retiring. The dude is beat to hell and deserves his rest.

 

Roman is apparently the biggest merch seller of the full-time guys, so I understand why they don't want to go full heel with him. They need to do SOMETHING different though, because his current character isn't interesting at all.

 

AJ Styles carried Shane McMahon--Shane McMahon--to a fairly good wrestling match. In 2017. That may be the most impressive accomplishment in his entire career.

 

You know the hate most people have for Roman? That's where I'm at with Lesnar now.

 

GERMAN SUPLEX

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F-5

 

That's the outline for basically every Brock match for the last several years. I can't remember the last time I actually enjoyed anything he did.

 

Roman's matches are too repetitive as well, but nowhere near that level. He really needs a new finisher though, and maybe a few basic power moves he can use as signatures.

[Mootinie]

Yeah it was an OK show. It started out really good and then went downhill once Cena had finished proposing to Nikki. It felt like the live audience were burned out and the wrestlers didn't really know what to do to revive them. It's just too damn long man, factoring in the pre-show last night ran like 7 hours 15 minutes. It's time to reign it in a little, Mania should be four hours tops if they want the crowd to contribute some energy to the stories they're telling.

 

HHH vs. Rollins was particularly embarrassing. It felt off tonally, it should have been a real wild barn-burner of a brawl but it felt like just another wrestling match barely minutes in. The story going in held the match back in terms of what it could have been had they abandoned the frankly boring and meandering limb work. But that's HHH's self-indulgence, he should have lost in 10 minutes but instead he needed that time to dominate the match and keep himself strong. Extra marks down for the bloody Chekhov's Gun with the table at ringside, I know wrestling is pre-determined but no casual observer would watch this and believe that crappy stunt wasn't choreographed beforehand.

 

Everything else on the card was as I expected so no complaints. Super stoked to see The Hardyz back, Jeff and Matt need to be treasured whilst they're still active, I can name very few talents that have given as much to the business as these two guys. Jeff still doing insane stunts made that ladder match feel like 2001 all over again.

[Questlove]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="sabataged" data-cite="sabataged" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I am sorry buy if you didn't like Wrestlemania then it's probably time yo give up WWE all together. I k ow a lot of you try to come off cool and say you don't ever watch it anymore. Which is an obvious lie when you chime in all the tie about current storylines.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It's really not hard to keep up by reading results and cherry picking segments on Youtube. I haven't watched a full episode of Raw or Smackdown in about 5 months, mostly because I'd consider it a form of torture but partly because it's irritating having to stream it.</p>

[Willimaru]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="sabataged" data-cite="sabataged" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I am sorry buy if you didn't like Wrestlemania then it's probably time yo give up WWE all together. </div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm done. I checked out after the Rumble, came back for WrestleMania, and that was enough to show me that I just have no interest in what the WWE is doing.</p><p> </p><p> And I'm a huge wrestling fan. My earliest memories are watching WCW in what must have been '88 or '89. My wife and I went to Mexico City mostly so I could go to Arena Mexico and see a show there.</p><p> </p><p> My standard for acceptable entertainment is so incredibly low when it comes to the WWE. I desperately want to like it. But I just don't. And it's 100% about the booking of the product. It's often times forced, rushed, and nonsensical. Whether or not someone enjoys it, I feel like it can be said that it often has objectively bad storytelling, the sort of storytelling that it can often get away with that no other scripted show on TV could. It's just become too much for me.</p><p> </p><p> I don't begrudge anyone that likes the product or whatever. Have fun. Enjoy it. But there's just so many options for entertainment nowadays, and for me, despite how much I want to like the WWE, it's just not entertaining enough to me.</p><p> </p><p> And last night's Mania managed to take going to WrestleMania off my bucket list. Not that it was bad, but wasting a shitload of money to spend six hours watching an event from a ways away with perhaps a bad view that will have as many disappointing moments as amazing ones, that's just not a value proposition that I can get behind. And again, I'm someone who added Mexico City to our Mexican vacation so I could go to Arena Mexico.</p><p> </p><p> Oh well. It was kinda weird, because last night really kind of felt like a breakup for me. I wish it worked out, but it didn't, and now I'll move on.</p>

[liontamer]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="sabataged" data-cite="sabataged" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I am sorry buy if you didn't like Wrestlemania then it's probably time yo give up WWE all together. I kow a lot of you try to come off cool and say you don't ever watch it anymore. Which is an obvious lie when you chime in all the tie about current storylines. <p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Thanks for the narrow view there bud. You're totally off of the page when it comes to me, if that's where you're directing that. </p><p> </p><p> I mostly post TNA over the years because I have generally preferred them to WWE, but they've been sinking and let way too many people go. In fact, those people are what brought me back to the WWE over the last two years and I watch that more than TNA because I care about very few characters in TNA, although I am liking that they are mixing things up more the last few weeks. WWE has also creatively gone more in a direction I like of recent where TNA has not. TNA let go of everyone, and they are rebranding, but the world title still says TNA on it in huge letters, major oversight.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> As for WWE. I have the network and I think of all of the PPVs I've watched on it this year, WM was the worst. Not a horrible show, but not great. I'm not even sure I'd give it the 7.5 that you did, but 7.5 proves my point. This should be 9 or 10 as the main show. It just wasn't. AJ v Shane was the match I least wanted to see (I like shane, but don't think he needs to be on Mania again), but it stole the show for me.</p><p> </p><p> Like someone else said, if That's how taker want to go, I can respect it, but creatively it makes no since and all it's going to do is turn fans against Roman. WWE is having a very hard time getting Roman to be liked, this probably sets that back a yr or two. Heck even having a surprise like another Demon (Finn or a heel Kane) returning to cost Taker the match and turn Roman would have been better to me.</p><p> </p><p> They are similarly having a very rough time getting AJ to be hated. I find it hilarious, the more heelish he acts, the more the crowd cheers for him. You have a clear good guy vs bad guy, and the crowd likes both but is more behind AJ than Shane. AJ would be my pick to retire Taker, but they likely feel he hasn't put his time in with the company, and I get that. Kane woulso make since, but no benefit there.</p><p> </p><p> Also the preshow guy with the crazy hair - very underwhelming and keeps talking about how nuts the crowd is when the sit still noiseless while he talks, lol. The crowd didn't help, but it seems forced when there is nothing happening. Need to be aware of your surroundings </p><p> </p><p> On the hardy's, I heard TNA had a cease and desist on the gimmick, but they appeared to run with it to an extent referring to them as broken and using the delete mannerism. Curious to see where that goes on Raw tonight. I also hear they have a long term ROH deal, so wondering if WWE is buying that out. They had a great crowd pop and are a breath of fresh air in the tag division. </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> slightly off topic, Cena's promo on miz on smackdown was one of his best</p>

[Warhawk8492]

WWE really should give up on making Roman a top level face and turn him heel.

[The Final Countdown]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I also hear they have a long term ROH deal, so wondering if WWE is buying that out. They had a great crowd pop and are a breath of fresh air in the tag division. </div></blockquote><p> Their ROH deal was only through the Supercard of Honor show the night before Mania.</p>

[merrykieran2]

I honestly loved Wrestlemania. For me the only matches that dissapointed me were Orton/Bray and Taker/Roman but the story telling in that main event made it decent enough for me. I felt that the SD women's match and the intergender tag match were OK and the rest was absolutely amazing for me

[Derek B]

I'm still digesting my own Wrestlemania thoughts... the short version is that almost all the part timers lost (Lesnar and Cena aside)... things never quite clicked the way I thought they would... and the show was once again far too long. Nothing out and out sucked, but nothing was awesome either. NXT had more highs for me, with the tag match in particuarly getting the kind of reactions that everyone on the main roster can only get on the Raw and Smackdown after Wrestlemania.

 

That said, I found this article from someone watching wrestling for the first time with Wrestlemania. I wish I could enjoy the show like that again.

[foolinc]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Derek B" data-cite="Derek B" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm still digesting my own Wrestlemania thoughts... the short version is that almost all the part timers lost (Lesnar and Cena aside)... things never quite clicked the way I thought they would... and the show was once again far too long. Nothing out and out sucked, but nothing was awesome either. NXT had more highs for me, with the tag match in particuarly getting the kind of reactions that everyone on the main roster can only get on the Raw and Smackdown after Wrestlemania. <img alt=":eek:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/eek.png.0e09df00fa222c85760b9bc1700b5405.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> That said, I found <a href="http://www.sbnation.com/2017/4/3/15147824/wrestlemania-33-recap-first-time-watching-wrestling-oh-my-good-lord" rel="external nofollow">this article</a> from someone watching wrestling for the first time with Wrestlemania. I wish I could enjoy the show like that again. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> My thoughts exactly. I'm to the point were I know I need to evaluate Mania on the high notes and effects on the upcoming months, so it's cool to see someone see this for the first time and be in wonder (plus she thought Bray/Orton was disappointing, which mean she has a good eye for wrestling). </p><p> </p><p> As for Mania, I enjoyed most of the matches and think that it's going to be a good base for the rest of the year (as opposed to last year, where most of the stakes were erased in a matter of a month).</p>

[CQI13]

The campiness of the Bray "mind games" was just too much. I just can't take the guy seriously.

[foolinc]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="CQI13" data-cite="CQI13" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The campiness of the Bray "mind games" was just too much. I just can't take the guy seriously.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I didn't real mind the attempt at something different (though I don't think it worked). The real issue is that Orton won, clean, and Bray lost at a big show AGAIN.</p>

[Blackman]

<p>I liked Mania in general. Most of the matches were good and were properly placed, so as an event I liked it. Mostly...</p><p> </p><p>

I even liked Lesnar vs Goldberg. What do people really want if they are complaining? Their WM20 match was crap because the length exposed them. The Fastlane match was too quick, but this was good imo, albeit a finisher-fest.</p><p> </p><p>

But... Taker retired, which was about time, but why not turn Roman heel? This big victory isn't really gonna help... at all. They will still hate him. The way they made him retire was great, but Roman. God... Apart from the awful botch and the way he moves around randomly: he's just not ready for the main event. Stop shoving him down our throats as a face.</p><p> </p><p>

The Fatal 4 Way was better than I thought... because it apparently wasn't a fatal-4 at all. Would've been nice to know. Get your terminology right. Like we established earlier, the match was forgettable because they already did everything... story-wise and moves-wise. Charlotte lost the streak and Bayley won already. Same goes for the power couple match: they did the double finisher on frickin' SD! and the predictable marriage thing made for a boring segment. There was a real drought in segments and I missed The New Day having their 'Mania moment as the closest thing to it was their introduction of the Hardy's (which was well done).</p><p> </p><p>

The Hardy's made the ladder match perhaps the most worthwhile to watch. Shane exceeded my expectations and made the opener good. Well... AJ carried him all the way. The six-pack was short and sweet. Bray's little visual tricks and RKO shenanigans made for a nice match.</p>

[CQI13]

<p>They won't go full heel because he is moving the most merchandise. Triole H has said that if you boo Roman qnd consider him a heel you are right...and if you cheer Roman and think he is a face you are right. Just a different way to present him.</p><p> </p><p>

I like that Charlotte lost clean. It sets up a better story than her regaining the belt.</p>

[K-Nection]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Warhawk8492" data-cite="Warhawk8492" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>WWE really should give up on making Roman a top level face and turn him heel.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> They love that merch money too bad to do it. Which is a shame because I would probably start watching if they went in that direction. The guy is talented but I'm sick of him.</p>

[Warhawk8492]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="K-Nection" data-cite="K-Nection" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>They love that merch money too bad to do it. Which is a shame because I would probably start watching if they went in that direction. The guy is talented but I'm sick of him.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Heels can sell merch too. The nWo where the top merch sellers in WCW back in the day.</p>

[K-Nection]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Warhawk8492" data-cite="Warhawk8492" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Heels can sell merch too. The nWo where the top merch sellers in WCW back in the day.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Here is the thing....nWo was cool.....Roman is.....bland lol.</p><p> </p><p> Not to mention the main demographic for WCW and WWF at that time was Teens. WWE is trying to broadly go after as big an audience as possible. If they narrowed the focus more it would do wonders for their booking just not their ad revenue.</p>

[milamber]

<p>No full review for Wrestlemania but I really enjoyed it. For how long it was and how little hyped I was it held my interest. The booking mostly worked. The arena/stage setup was brilliant. Neville vs Aries, AJ vs Shane, Raw Women and Raw Tag were my favorite matches. Only match I disliked was the Battle Royale. Still, nothing came close to beating DIY vs Revival vs AOP.</p><p> </p><p>

Raw was fun but I hated the crowd crapping on Neville & Ali because of beach balls.</p>

[Woodsmeister]

<p>Wrestlemania was a tale of two halves, the first half was great loved Aries vs Neville, good story, nice heelish finish!</p><p> </p><p>

Braun should have won the battle royal but he did look strong at one point he eliminated the first 3 and I thought he was going to eliminate everyone . </p><p> </p><p>

Ambrose vs Corbin was a dud.</p><p> </p><p>

Styles and Shane was a spot fest, it was good but I wish AJ would have dominated more, A non wrestler should not be able to hang with a guy who main evented smackdown for most of 2016.</p><p> </p><p>

Owens vs Jericho was good.</p><p> </p><p>

The women's four way started off good loved how they all teamed to get rid of Jax, made her look strong and hid her flaws. Then it was sort of rushed should have had some of the time allotted to Triple H vs Rollins</p><p> </p><p>

Great reaction for Hardy Boyz return, I was sure it was going to happen, loved the tease that it would be the new day. Decent match made better by the surprise.</p><p> </p><p>

Brock vs Goldberg was enjoyable for what it was they really got me when he hit the jackhammer I thought they were going to swerve us, but as that was revealed should have known they revealed it the day prior (changed there mind to have Goldberg win again).</p><p> </p><p>

Wyatt vs Orton was dull needed a quicker pace in there to inject some life into it, didn't like the maggots and what not made it feel cartoonish. Wyatt should have won Orton is a boring face character.</p><p> </p><p>

The mixed tag... Short, Miz got in a lot of offence which I was pleased about but fell to one attitude adjustment making him seem weak after having the year of his life. Hope they ignore this and have him fued with Orton for the title, there is history to build on with how Miz beat him for the title back in the day. Bray vs Harper would be interesting if done right.</p><p> </p><p>

Triple H vs Rollins was repetitive and way to long it got boring in parts, Triple H and Orton are just really boring and to slow and plodding. The Revival wrestle a slow grounded style but at least they up the pace. </p><p> </p><p>

The women's match for smackdown was rushed, get some stuff in there, next repeat, would have faired better on the preshow sometimes you get what you want and it turns out to be worse.</p><p> </p><p>

Main event was ok, a few notches in there, I wanted Reigns to win not because I like him, I think he can be carrIed to a good match and I see why the want him to be they guy, but Taker did not need to win even if he wasn't to retire. It benefits Reigns loads more hopefully they go full heel with him and build to him vs brock for next year making it a good story. No point moaning about it he usually sticks to his guns let's just hope it's a good story.</p><p> </p><p>

RAW had its good bits, Hardys, Revival, Balor, enjoyed the Reigns bit but the crowd really need to stop with the swearing no need for it. The draft can be interesting who do you see moving...</p><p> </p><p>

I hope Rusev moves and is featured better</p>

[K-Nection]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Woodsmeister" data-cite="Woodsmeister" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Styles and Shane was a spot fest, it was good but I wish AJ would have dominated more, <strong>A non wrestler should not be able to hang with a guy who main evented smackdown for most of 2016</strong>.<p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Have you ever watched a Shane match? That guy has been going toe to toe with the full time talent in countless PPVs. Him vs Steve Blackman was a classic and Shane vs Kurt Angle was a borderline MOTY canidate for its time. That is Shane's whole gimmick that he is not as good as the wrestlers he faces but he makes up for it with a Mick Foley all in mentality.</p><p> </p><p> By all means he should not win every match but how the guy has been booked the last 15 years makes complete sense.</p>

[Woodsmeister]

I get that he has done in the past but I still don't agree with it, but like I said for what it was it was good <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />

[milamber]

<p>Callups - Dillinger to Raw. Nakamura, Almas & DIY to Smackdown.</p><p> </p><p>

Trades - Charlotte, Zayn, Enzo & Cass <--> Bliss, Breezango, Mojo</p>

[Greylocke]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="liontamer" data-cite="liontamer" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Brock and Goldberg was a very odd match. what was that, maybe 5 total different moves between the 2? <strong>I was shocked at how bonkers the crowd went for it</strong>. Is Goldberg just that limited now or that all they want him doing? Where's his MMA training (muay thai, right)? </div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Crychon" data-cite="Crychon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> 4. Spear, Jackhammer, German Suplex, F5.<p> That was it. <strong>I'm also surprised the crowd ate that one up</strong>. Two of the most boring dudes in the industry right now. </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Well, personally I'm surprised that there are people who still find this surprising. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> The two did less than that at Survivor Series and the crowd ate that up too, why should it be different here?</p><p> </p><p> I mean, it's <em>Goldberg</em>. He barely did more than 3 moves per match even in his prime, and that sure didn't hurt his popularity. And nobody with any sense would expect to see any vast improvement from a guy who hasn't wrestled for a decade, and even if he had improved there's no reason for him to do more than what he's always done before he's still making money with the same old formula .</p><p> </p><p> Basically, you can say this about Goldberg matches (and Hogan too, for that matter): other than new fans who never watched the guy wrestle before, every person who paid to watch Goldberg wrestle knows exactly what he's getting for his money. They got exactly what they ordered, so naturally they ate it up.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Rayelek" data-cite="Rayelek" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> <p> Barely watched the main event. I love Roode, but I haven't cared about Nakamura since he was done with Balor, and I don't enjoy his ring style. I really hope that Roode moves from here to another challenger, but I don't see another face who has been built up for him to fight right now. There's Tye, Roddy, Ohno and Jose, but 3 of the above are coming off losses and Jose didn't even get his Takeover match, so who knows?</p><p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Final Countdown" data-cite="The Final Countdown" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm kind of amazed at how little I care about Nak in WWE. His first match with Zayn was really good, but even there it seemed to me like he wasn't all in. I'm sure I don't need to tell you about his tendency to go through the motions when he's bored, and it feels to me like he's been doing that his entire time in NXT. (Granted I only watch the Takeover shows, but I can't imagine he's trying <em>harder</em> on the NXT TV show or random house shows in Florida.)</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Heh, its been the opposite for me. For the past few months Nakamura was more or less the only "must watch" person that causes me keep watching NXT. Not that I dislike all the other guys, there were other people I liked (Oney Lorcan, Tye Dilinger, etc), but none of the others were enough to "draw" me to the show consistently. Many matches (most notably DIY/Revival) were highly enjoyable to watch, but I want more than just good action in a match, I want guys that I actually care about enough to love or hate, and those guys were too much of generic babyfaces/heels to make me emotionally invested. Nakamura has the ability to exude such personality both in and out of the ring that makes me feel I <em>want</em> to cheer for him. And surprisingly for someone who is not a fan of Puro, his ring style doesn't bother me.</p><p> </p><p> I felt that he brought life back to a title scene that was being smothered by the boring Balor/Joe feud (which was a 98% plagiarization of Owens/Zayn anyway). When he dropped the title, I thought I'd probably stop watching regularly once he's finished up his feud with Roode. I actually like Roode's gimmick, but I'm not a fan of the worker. The only time I enjoyed him was as half of Beer Money....and even then I always thought James Storm was the better half carrying the team (now James Storm....<em>that</em> was a big loss for NXT).</p><p> </p><p> But in the recent weeks I finally found some other things that may keep me watching: I've been <em>very</em> impressed by the new UK "division". I totally missed the tournaments because I'd been quite underwhelmed by the Cruiserweight division on the whole (except Gentleman Jack, he's awesome...and Kendrick's been in top form too). But the UK guys surprised me. I'm probably going to back and hunt down the tournament matches. I hope Smackdown gets the UK guys as their special feature as a counter to RAW's CW (and maybe their own show that will blow 205 out of the water).</p>

[lazorbeak]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Warhawk8492" data-cite="Warhawk8492" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>WWE really should give up on making Roman a top level face and turn him heel.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Did you just not watch Wrestlemania or the Raw after?</p>

[Rone Rivendale]

<p>WM33 was amazing. Last year the 7 hours seemed to last 7 days, it was painful to sit through. This year, it didn't FEEL like 7 hours. I was hyped the whole way through, and there wasn't one 'bad' match.</p><p> </p><p>

AJ vs Shane and the Hardys returning were the highlights I think. Shane might be a part timer, but he brings it. He puts 100% into everything he does. He pulled off a Shooting Star Press at Mania, something Brock Lesnar failed at in the past. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p>

And Kudos to AJ for selling Shane as a threat. He deserves just as much credit. AJ made James Ellsworth's Super Kick look like death, he can sell anyone as a threat. Dolph might have lost his only claim to fame as the best seller in WWE.</p>