The Official WWE / NXT Discussion Thread *May Contain Spoilers*

[dvdWarrior]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hyde Hill" data-cite="Hyde Hill" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>On Anderson here is his Sacrifice Promo for those who missed it:<p> </p><p> <a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xddqtj_mr-anderson-promo-sacrifice-10_fun" rel="external nofollow">http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xddqtj_mr-anderson-promo-sacrifice-10_fun</a></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> Dang, Anderson is dangerously close to becoming The MAN. Maybe it's just me, but he seems head and shoulders above the rest of the TNA crowd.</p><p> </p><p> Fantabulous promo there.</p><p> </p><p> <img alt=":eek:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/eek.png.0e09df00fa222c85760b9bc1700b5405.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Stennick]

I don't know what more people want out of the guy in a promo but that promo hit on all cylinders so yeah I'll leave that for others to figure out.

[Stennick]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="hellshock70" data-cite="hellshock70" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Here is a funky looking pic of Bryan Danielson<p> </p><p> <span>http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/Count_Danielson.jpg</span></p><p> <span>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Count_Danielson.jpg</span></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Is there a reason for the strange picture of Danielson other than it being a strange picture of Danielson?</p>

[brashleyholland]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hyde Hill" data-cite="Hyde Hill" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>On Anderson here is his Sacrifice Promo for those who missed it:<p> </p><p> <a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xddqtj_mr-anderson-promo-sacrifice-10_fun" rel="external nofollow">http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xddqtj_mr-anderson-promo-sacrifice-10_fun</a></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I may not know as much, or have seen as much pro wrestling as most people here....but was absolutely one of the best promo's I've ever seen. I remember legitimately lol'ing when I saw it at the time, something I don't think I've done to wrestling since I was about 14. </p><p> </p><p> The best part for me was the fan's reaction...people applauded at the end of the promo. During the match there were tons of 'a-hole' related chants. That's the kind of organic reaction you don't get from stuffing something down peoples throats. When you get gold like that, you have to run with it. </p><p> </p><p> My frame of reference for what's happening with Anderson is the Austin thing from way back when. My memory is sketchy, but I'm sure people will correct me if I'm wrong <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> As I remember it, there was no 'face turn' as such, he basically acted like a heel and people loved it. Even though he eventually became the good guy, if memory serves he was doing heel-ish stuff for quite a while. I hope TNA let Anderson ride with what he's doing...it's already working, so IMO, jumping the gun and visibly turning him in a short space of time would be a bad thing. </p><p> </p><p> It's be like Austin doing the '3:16' promo then coming out slapping fan's hands and cracking jokes the very next week.</p>

[hellshock70]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Stennick" data-cite="Stennick" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Is there a reason for the strange picture of Danielson other than it being a strange picture of Danielson?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Just one of those strange personas floating around the indies. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> In the indies some are strange, some are cool, a select few are both. I believe this is a category one persona. LOL</p>

[hellshock70]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="brashleyholland" data-cite="brashleyholland" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I may not know as much, or have seen as much pro wrestling as most people here....but was absolutely one of the best promo's I've ever seen. I remember legitimately lol'ing when I saw it at the time, something I don't think I've done to wrestling since I was about 14. <p> </p><p> The best part for me was the fan's reaction...people applauded at the end of the promo. During the match there were tons of 'a-hole' related chants. That's the kind of organic reaction you don't get from stuffing something down peoples throats. When you get gold like that, you have to run with it. </p><p> </p><p> My frame of reference for what's happening with Anderson is the Austin thing from way back when. My memory is sketchy, but I'm sure people will correct me if I'm wrong <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> As I remember it, there was no 'face turn' as such, he basically acted like a heel and people loved it. Even though he eventually became the good guy, if memory serves he was doing heel-ish stuff for quite a while. I hope TNA let Anderson ride with what he's doing...it's already working, so IMO, jumping the gun and visibly turning him in a short space of time would be a bad thing. </p><p> </p><p> It's be like Austin doing the '3:16' promo then coming out slapping fan's hands and cracking jokes the very next week.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Weird thing about being face for me was I CHEATED MORE than when I was heel. LOL</p>

[cappyboy]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hyde Hill" data-cite="Hyde Hill" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>On Anderson here is his Sacrifice Promo for those who missed it:<p> </p><p> <a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xddqtj_mr-anderson-promo-sacrifice-10_fun" rel="external nofollow">http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xddqtj_mr-anderson-promo-sacrifice-10_fun</a></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="-laz-" data-cite="-laz-" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>"Thanks *******s" loved that promo was the highlight of the ppv for me</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I tend to agree with Brother Linsolv's reaction here. But I'll give Anderson credit for one thing. Jeff Hardy and his Creatures of the Night deserved every disparaging word Anderson had to say about them. On that level, this is probably one of my favorite Anderson promos. Take that for what it's worth.</p>

[Candyman]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Stennick" data-cite="Stennick" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Is there a reason for the strange picture of Danielson other than it being a strange picture of Danielson?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Is there a reason for this question other than it being a question?</p>

[Stennick]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Candyman" data-cite="Candyman" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Is there a reason for this question other than it being a question?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> The reason was to obtain an answer. I obtained mine and now you can say the same.</p>

[-laz-]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="hellshock70" data-cite="hellshock70" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Here is a funky looking pic of Bryan Danielson<p> </p><p> <span>http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/Count_Danielson.jpg</span></p><p> <span>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Count_Danielson.jpg</span></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> looks to me like hes trying to perfect his finishing move</p><p> </p><p> <span>http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Zhnhq_exYt0/SHgRb8w1f6I/AAAAAAAAAYU/qOC1PNXf_Pk/s400/Crane+Kick+Karate+Kid+Retarded+Defeat.jpg</span></p><p> </p><p> the dreaded crane kick</p>

[PeterHilton]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="hellshock70" data-cite="hellshock70" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>On this, Ron Killings is 38 years old. So he grew up on the New Jack swing era. He's by far the oldest of the bunch and is going with the style he knows.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Tough.</p><p> </p><p> I'm 34. I don't run around in British Knights and Guess jean overalls with one strap down. </p><p> </p><p> If you're in entertainment it's your job to adapt. </p><p> </p><p> Or if all else fails, someone in production or the writing team who's turned on a TV in the last decade should tell him he looks dated</p>

[hellshock70]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="PeterHilton" data-cite="PeterHilton" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Tough.<p> </p><p> I'm 34. I don't run around in British Knights and Guess jean overalls with one strap down. </p><p> </p><p> If you're in entertainment it's your job to adapt. </p><p> </p><p> Or if all else fails, someone in production or the writing team who's turned on a TV in the last decade should tell him he looks dated</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Tough on that too.</p><p> </p><p> Clothes are a lot different then your personal dancing style and musical preference.</p>

[Linsolv]

For the record when I said Truth had a good "look," I was referring to his stature and physique. I don't think I addressed that previously.

[PeterHilton]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hyde Hill" data-cite="Hyde Hill" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>On Anderson here is his Sacrifice Promo for those who missed it:<p> </p><p> <a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xddqtj_mr-anderson-promo-sacrifice-10_fun" rel="external nofollow">http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xddqtj_mr-anderson-promo-sacrifice-10_fun</a></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm disappointed at you. There's a TNA thread for this *tsk tsk*</p><p> </p><p> Unless....<em>INVASION????</em></p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="hellshock70" data-cite="hellshock70" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Tough on that too.<p> </p><p> Clothes are a lot different then your personal dancing style and musical preference.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm criticizing his look. That's my point. He LOOKS dated.</p><p> </p><p> You're a wrestler..you tellin me it's not a fair criticism of a guy who hasn't changed his look since the end of the Attitude Era?</p>

[hellshock70]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Linsolv" data-cite="Linsolv" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>For the record when I said Truth had a good "look," I was referring to his stature and physique. I don't think I addressed that previously.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> His physique is great. His stature not so much. LOL I meet the man when I used his one of his students last year. My son is 6'1/200 and well built but not cut up and he was taller and looked heavier than R-Truth.</p>

[PeterHilton]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Linsolv" data-cite="Linsolv" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>For the record when I said Truth had a good "look," I was referring to his stature and physique. I don't think I addressed that previously.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I agree with this. That's why it bugs me. If he fixed the little details like his hair he'd be set.</p>

[hellshock70]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="PeterHilton" data-cite="PeterHilton" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm disappointed at you. There's a TNA thread for this *tsk tsk*<p> </p><p> Unless....<em>INVASION????</em></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> I'm criticizing his look. That's my point. He LOOKS dated.</p><p> </p><p> You're a wrestler..you tellin me it's not a fair criticism of a guy who hasn't changed his look since the end of the Attitude Era?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I didn't say it wasn't fair criticism. Just that's his personal style and preference. My dad is stuck in the 50's and 60's with music. But that's his style and not mine.</p>

[PeterHilton]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="hellshock70" data-cite="hellshock70" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I didn't say it wasn't fair criticism. Just that's his personal style and preference. My dad is stuck in the 50's and 60's with music. But that's his style and not mine.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> So is my dad...(in the 70s but still stuck) . ..I guess what I'm saying is that someone in the public eye you have to be more cognizant of that and adjust accordingly. </p><p> </p><p> It's basically his job to be 'cool.' That's part of the gig.</p>

[hellshock70]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="PeterHilton" data-cite="PeterHilton" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I agree with this. That's why it bugs me. If he fixed the little details like his hair he'd be set.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> At the same time what if McMahon updated his music to a more current song? Wouldn't fly with someone almost as old as my dad. So he's stuck sort of....</p><p> </p><p> He supposedly retired the Mr. McMahon character at WM 26 so that's really a moot point. But at the same time I can't see someone nearly 40 years old coming out to music that's mainly played by people half his age.</p><p> </p><p> Unless it fits.</p>

[hellshock70]

<p>Here is another way to look at it too.</p><p> </p><p>

JTG has an image that caters to the younger Bling Bling/ grill wearing generation while R-Truth caters to the older nearing 40 generation.</p><p> </p><p>

They have someone for both ends of their age demographic.</p>

[brashleyholland]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="hellshock70" data-cite="hellshock70" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> </p><p> Clothes are a lot different then your personal dancing style and musical preference.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> What does Truth's personal dancing style have to do with anything? Someone in WWE is telling a 38-year-old man who can't rap and who's dance moves come from a different generation: <em>"Wear this, dance and do a little rap"</em> Every. Single. Week. He's a guy playing a character on a TV show, right? The point is, somebody should be saying to this guy:</p><p> </p><p> <em>"You look ridiculous, time to stop dancing and rapping".</em></p><p> </p><p> <em>"But this is how I dance"</em></p><p> </p><p> <em>"So? Here's the script for next week...You're a White Supremacist now, time to shave the old noggin and be appalling." </em></p><p> </p><p> Like Peter said, he's an entertainer, it's his job to adapt and perform a role. The guy has potential, but it's like looking into a time-warp whenever he pops up on TV.</p>

[Linsolv]

For the record, Tiger, he doesn't LOOK that old. I wouldn't have known he was 36 except that you guys told me.

[hellshock70]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Linsolv" data-cite="Linsolv" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>For the record, Tiger, he doesn't LOOK that old. I wouldn't have known he was 36 except that you guys told me.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Actually, he just turned 38 in January. And he looks bigger on TV. LOL</p>

[hellshock70]

Just got word CM Punk botched a move pretty bad twice. Might be something to look at and talk about after Smackdown friday.

[Stennick]

<p>Yeah I agree he's playing a character on television. As far as McMahon changing his character up via music. McMahon is a legendary character and easily one of the top five most recognizable characters of the last 15 years. So him changing something that is identifiable with him is a lot different than R Truth has has been a mid carder at best his entire career. </p><p> </p><p>

He's not appealing to 40 year olds with his "was up" I don't know many 40 year olds that say "was up". Some? Sure but most 40 year olds say "hows it going". So shouldn't his rap being "something in coherant on a live mic....how is going? *dance* hows it going?". </p><p> </p><p>

EVERYONE in the WWE is meant to mostly entertain children. John Cena'd dudley do right gimmick is meant for ten year olds that need a real life super man. There is a reason Hogan's character was booked so similar to Cena their the same character (essentially) and their marketed to the same age group.</p><p> </p><p>

Killings is no different its not like he even looks like a typical 40 year old from his side of the streets. Luda cut his braids off, Ice Cube got rid of the curls, Ice T cut his hair. All of these men are in entertainment and all of them have switched their look up to appear more modern. So saying that its his generation and its how people his age dress isn't even accurate. Its how his generation dressed 20 years ago. Heck its how I would have dressed 20 years ago when I was in the 8th grade gangsta dancing to Coolio's "gangsta paradise" in my suburban home without a clue what he was talking about. I use to sag my jeans and wear Bugle Boy t shirts. 20 years later I've stopped doing that. Not that Bugle Boy was ever in style but my point has been made.</p>