Fantabulous Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Apparently, Mistico's WWE name is going to be Sin Cara, which roughly translates into English as 'Faceless'. If accurate, it would indicate he is keeping a mask but we'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHilton Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Maybe mistake, for sure. But I'm not talking about Mistico. I'm talking about Lucha Libre. Fititng Sports Entertainment within Lucha Libre is not easy task, yes. But the reverse... isn't so true. Sports Entertainment is a pretty flexible product. If Vince can add "ECW" and "Attitude" into his squeaky clean "Sports Entertainment", he can certainly add some Lucha Libre into it... I argue that he already has, if not at a huge amount. I think you're right that he could add some lucha stars to the product..probably even create a division on SD But what parts of lucha do you think he's added? Out of curiosity... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHilton Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 So apparently Mistico's WWE name is going to be Sin Cara, which roughly translates into English as 'Faceless Heart'. If accurate, it would indicate he keeping a mask but we'll see. Actually it translates into "Without Face" or "Faceless" 'Faceless Heart' would be Corazon Sin Cara EDIT: you changed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampulator Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 I think you're right that he could add some lucha stars to the product..probably even create a division on SD But what parts of lucha do you think he's added? Out of curiosity... To easily explain think of it in TEW terms... Key Feature: Mainstream Heavy: Traditional, Comedy Medium: None Low: None Very Low: Lucha Libre, Modern, Cult, Daredevil, Risque, Hardcore None: Realism, Pure, Hyper-Realism To explain that.. it's easy. Alberto Del Rio, and Rey Mysterio. Not much, just a teensy amount, but it's there. If you don't think Rey isn't an an attempt to appeal to the Lucha Libre market, even just a tiny bit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Wikipedia says at the Mexico City announcement that WWE did today, Mistico's name is going to be Sin Rostro, which means Faceless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHilton Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 To explain that.. it's easy. Alberto Del Rio, and Rey Mysterio. Not much, just a teensy amount, but it's there. If you don't think Rey isn't an an attempt to appeal to the Lucha Libre market, even just a tiny bit... A Mexican guy in a mask is does not = lucha libre. And Del Rio is nothing - NOTHING - like his Dos Caras persona Lucha is about the in-ring style and the presentation, as well as the masks. I would say that Rey hasn't worked a true lucha style match since his WCW days. If you're saying that Vince and the WWE would add more hispanic workers and stars from Mexico to appeal to hispanic viewers, then I agree. But that doesn't mean he's adding (or has added) any aspects of lucha other than whatever similaritiesthe two styles may have in general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampulator Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 A Mexican guy in a mask is does not = lucha libre. And Del Rio is nothing - NOTHING - like his Dos Caras persona Lucha is about the in-ring style and the presentation, as well as the masks. I would say that Rey hasn't worked a true lucha style match since his WCW days. If you're saying that Vince and the WWE would add more hispanic workers and stars from Mexico to appeal to hispanic viewers, then I agree. But that doesn't mean he's adding (or has added) any aspects of lucha other than whatever similaritiesthe two styles may have in general. I repeat... just a TINY bit. Maybe not much, but he's adding it. He smells the money, and that's what matters to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHilton Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 I repeat... just a TINY bit. Maybe not much, but he's adding it. He smells the money, and that's what matters to him. I don't think it's the same think but I'm not going to pick nits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurningHamster Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 I don't think it's the same think but I'm not going to pick nits. For the record, I agree with Mr. Hilton. I really don't see any lucha influence in the WWE, Del Rio is pretty much working a regular US entertainment style, Rey hasn't been a lucha style worker in forever and the overall style, atmosphere, presentation etc of the WWE is pretty far removed from Lucha in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampulator Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 For the record, I agree with Mr. Hilton. I really don't see any lucha influence in the WWE, Del Rio is pretty much working a regular US entertainment style, Rey hasn't been a lucha style worker in forever and the overall style, atmosphere, presentation etc of the WWE is pretty far removed from Lucha in my opinion. I don't disagree with you either of you, you just happen to simply not agree with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantabulous Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/sincarajoinswwe I hope that's his new mask and ring gear because it looks cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Self Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Recently saw my first ever Mistico matches on NJPW/CMLL Fantasticmania a few weeks back. I was mightily impressed. If he comes to WWE, and is more-or-less himself, I may actually watch WWE again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 WWE actually hyping a signing instead of just sending them to development and no mention of them is kind of neat/a big deal. I remember when they signed Brian Pillman and had that press conference. Very neat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Fenoli Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 WWE actually hyping a signing instead of just sending them to development and no mention of them is kind of neat/a big deal. I remember when they signed Brian Pillman and had that press conference. Very neat. Yeah... when was the last time they did this??? Was it back when they'd steal people from WCW?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoNdOn Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 I really like the name Sin Cara as well. That mask is fricken sweet; it puts Mysterio's to shame. This has me really pumped to see what they do with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantabulous Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Yeah... when was the last time they did this??? I believe it was Taka Michinoku, And the highlight of his run was a 6-minute Raw match with Triple H where people actually bought that he might win. Oh, and separating his shoulder off a bump in the Rumble earlier that year which they replayed multiple times that night and Lawler kept making fun of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Fenoli Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 I believe it was Taka Michinoku, And the highlight of his run was a 6-minute Raw match with Triple H where people actually bought that he might win. Oh, and separating his shoulder off a bump in the Rumble earlier that year which they replayed multiple times that night and Lawler kept making fun of. I'm talking just ANY wrestler with NO stop in the Developmentals... not necessarily foreign wrestlers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantabulous Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 I'm talking just ANY wrestler with NO stop in the Developmentals... not necessarily foreign wrestlers. Still Taka Michinoku. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1234 Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/sincarajoinswwe I hope that's his new mask and ring gear because it looks cool. The hype is amazing on the WWE site. Absoulutely shocked its happening though. Hyping and accepting someones past is a big deal in the WWE, and I just hope it pays off. Not sure about the name Sin Cara, but I guess it will grow on me. I remember hating Daniel Bryan & Evan Bourne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Fenoli Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Still Taka Michinoku. Well, Goldberg was in 03.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Jim Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 I believe it was Taka Michinoku, And the highlight of his run was a 6-minute Raw match with Triple H where people actually bought that he might win. Oh, and separating his shoulder off a bump in the Rumble earlier that year which they replayed multiple times that night and Lawler kept making fun of. To be fair... that was hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantabulous Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Well, Goldberg was in 03.... They didn't do a press conference for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Fenoli Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 They didn't do a press conference for him. I'm not talking about a press conference. I'm just talking about someoen they signed and they didnt send to developmental. no stop over. Which is pretty much what they've done here, just by plastering him all over the WWE.com page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampulator Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Maybe WWE is diong this because they need to? I mean, to shake things up. I think they might have been planning to signing him for a while, but to not get the "Dos Caras" treatment is... new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattitudeV2 Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 The WWE is doing this obviously to promote the next upcoming masked superstar, Sin Cara because Rey Mysterio is near the end of his leash and they know the Mexican fans need someone to cheer and Sin Cara is going to be the new man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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