The Official WWE / NXT Discussion Thread *May Contain Spoilers*

[Wrestling Century]

I'm not only going to stream the PPV, I'm going to invite people round to watch it and charge them to get in.

 

Also, I'm raising the odds of the main event finish being Cena just beating Punk clean and ending the storyline there and then to 50/1.

 

lol. Just to clarify, I'm not trying to attack anybody, I'm just stating my opinion, so take it with a grain of salt.

[Fantabulous]

Curveball, both of them were.

 

Swing and a miss.

[TheEdgeOfReason]

The last PPV I bought was actually Extreme Rules of this year. It just ticks me off when people steal things. Whether or not you think WWE is declining in quality, the wrestlers themselves still put themselves in harms way for our entertainment, and we as the fans are the ones keeping the entire industry afloat. When more and more people pirate PPVs online, the wrestling industry declines more and more because there is less money being put into it. I'm probably sounding like a total jerk right now, but people pirating things is one of my biggest pet peeves.

 

People are gonna pirate, its nature to get things for free when you can. Its a dying medium and one which WWE needs to find away to replace. The music industry is adapting with a greater emphasis on touring. How pro wrestling adapts, who knows, but PPV is gonna be finished within a decade.

[TheEdgeOfReason]

Swing and a miss.

 

Well I hope its the second one then. You'd be crazy to offer 50s on Cena going over clean.

[Fantabulous]

Well I hope its the second one then. You'd be crazy to offer 50s on Cena going over clean.

 

I stand by the odds I offer.

[Teh_Showtime]

Yeah there is no way Vince doesn't get involved. No Colt or KoW, but it surely wont end clean.

 

I will boldly predict a 3.5* or higher match. I think Cena will raise his game, while Punk will be Punk.

[TheEdgeOfReason]

I stand by the odds I offer.

 

Don't ever go into bookmaking then

[Fantabulous]

Don't ever go into bookmaking then

 

We'll see.

 

I think the match will be good but the heat will be off-the-charts.

[20LEgend]

The last PPV I bought was actually Extreme Rules of this year. It just ticks me off when people steal things. Whether or not you think WWE is declining in quality, the wrestlers themselves still put themselves in harms way for our entertainment, and we as the fans are the ones keeping the entire industry afloat. When more and more people pirate PPVs online, the wrestling industry declines more and more because there is less money being put into it. I'm probably sounding like a total jerk right now, but people pirating things is one of my biggest pet peeves.

 

I was actually asking which PPVs Master J last bought as he said this is predictable but I don't see it being more predictable than most over shows

 

I see exactly what you are saying, but I get the PPV free anyway, because it's not PPV in the uk You don't sound like a jerk

[Wrestling Century]

I was actually asking which PPVs Master J last bought as he said this is predictable but I don't see it being more predictable than most over shows

 

I see exactly what you are saying, but I get the PPV free anyway, because it's not PPV in the uk You don't sound like a jerk

 

Oh, ok then. Yeah, I don't see this PPV being any more predictable than any other.

[MrOnu]

<p>Everyone is talking about a CM Punk win followed by a briefcase cashin, but what about the Smackdown situation ? Could Christian win the title only to lose it mere minutes later when someone (well, Sheamus) cash the breifcase ? For a lot of people, Christian is just a big whiner and making him a super short champion once again would be in line with the character and their expectations. </p><p> </p><p>

Speaking of Smackdown MITB, am I the only one finding it thin on stars ? For all the love Rhodes, Sin Cara or Bryan get, they are really not main eventing right now. Barrett ? I guess he could be up the card again, but it feels like creative is less behind him. Kane ? Not again sorry. It fitted a purpose last year, but there's nothing going for him now. Which leaves us with Sheamus, the closest thing to a regular main eventer this match has. Sheamus really feels like the safe bet, with Barrett having an odd chance too. All the others would be a long work in progress to make them legitime threat to any world champion. Specially Heath Slater <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/wink.png.686f06e511ee1fbf6bdc7d82f6831e53.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Teh_Showtime]

<p>I like SD's lack of top draws because it actually lets guys like Rhodes and Bryan tell a story.</p><p> </p><p>

I see Sheamus and Barrett feuding next which.would be 3 quality feuds. Raw has 2 and way more stars.</p>

[Jaysin]

I just don't think Christian will win.

[20LEgend]

<p>One SD! I reckon.</p><p> </p><p>

- Sheamus wins MITB</p><p>

- Sheamus comes out during Randy Orton vs. Christian and hits Christian over the head with the MITB case and Randy Orton gets DQ'd.</p><p>

- With Christian out from the MITB shot Sheamus immiedietely (wow, that is terrible spelling <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />) pins Christian.</p><p>

- Sheamus is champ, RKO doesn't look weak and Christian can get even more pissed off.</p><p> </p><p>

It makes sense because of the stupid ruling of DQs and bad referee decisions meaning something must happen in that regard. Teddy Long will then come out on SD! and book a three way or something, and then Randy Orton can Feud with Sheamus, while Christian complains for a bit and maybe gets into a feud with Kane.</p>

[Fantabulous]

If Christian loses to Orton AGAIN, they may as well send him to FCW for all the value they'll be able to get out of him.

[Jaysin]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="20LEgend" data-cite="20LEgend" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>One SD! I reckon.<p> </p><p> - Sheamus wins MITB</p><p> - Sheamus comes out during Randy Orton vs. Christian and hits Christian over the head with the MITB case and Randy Orton gets DQ'd.</p><p> - With Christian out from the MITB shot Sheamus immiedietely (wow, that is terrible spelling <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png">) pins Christian.</p><p> - Sheamus is champ, RKO doesn't look weak and Christian can get even more pissed off.</p><p> </p><p> It makes sense because of the stupid ruling of DQs and bad referee decisions meaning something must happen in that regard. Teddy Long will then come out on SD! and book a three way or something, and then Randy Orton can Feud with Sheamus, while Christian complains for a bit and maybe gets into a feud with Kane.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I dunno, if something like that happens I see Orton RKO'ing Sheamus after Sheamus hits Christian and DQ's Orton leading to to Sheamus not getting to cash it in.</p>

[dvdWarrior]

<p>My Money In The Bank predictions:</p><p> </p><p>

Neither CM Punk nor Christian win World Titles. Reason for this is Christian and Punk are two of my favorites, and the Forces Of Fate only let my favorites win if they have ABSOLUTELY no other choice... same reason baseball never books the Cubs to win the World Series.</p><p> </p><p>

For some reason I 'speck Cody Rhodes to win the SmackDown! Ladder Match. Dunno why exactly, just seems to make the most sense to me.</p><p> </p><p>

I have no idea who'll win the Raw one, but I'm betting it's not Alberto Del Rio. Reason for this is I've seen 9,319 different people around the internet screaming that CM Punk would beat Cena, and then Del Rio would immediately cash in his Money In The Bank of Punk, possibly even at the behest of Mr. McMahon.</p><p> </p><p>

Seems to me that 99 times out of 100, when "everyone knows" what WWE is gunna do....</p><p> </p><p>

WWE doesn't do it.</p><p> </p><p>

Of course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.</p><p> </p><p>

<img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Jaysin]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="dvdWarrior" data-cite="dvdWarrior" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>My Money In The Bank predictions:<p> Neither CM Punk nor Christian win World Titles. Reason for this is Christian and Punk are two of my favorites, and the <strong>Forces Of Fate only let my favorites win if they have ABSOLUTELY no other choice... same reason baseball never books the Cubs to win the World Series.</strong></p><p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Hey...at least you're not a Browns and Jaguars fan like me...</p>

[Tha Black Phenom]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>What's confusing is, I know Triple H has one, but every show I've been to all the other wrestlers drive in rental cars.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="TheEdgeOfReason" data-cite="TheEdgeOfReason" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>randy does have his own but iirc. He used to road with Santino. Smackdown run a different schedule to Raw anyways don't they so they wouldn't be travelling together, I think. Why Rey wouldn't be up there though is puzzling.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I know Big Show has one as well. And there's a chance Rey may have his own too. I think it's something a lot of veterans eventually get their paws on, to slightly prolong their career span.</p><p> </p><p> Essentially going with dvdWarrior's thoughts about Del Rio and the MITB - though I still think he has the greater chance of winning it, I sorta hope Riley gets the rub. Honestly, I'm grown weary of the upper-midcard scenes on both brands crammed with up-and-coming ****y coward heels, who seem they have to rely on Cena/Orton/Rey and al just to get by. (Then you have the older folk like Truth and Christian turning heel.. which doesn't help) They have to pull the trigger on some babyface at some point, and if it's not gonna be John Morrison or Kofi Kingston, well...</p>

[ShaunGBD]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="dvdWarrior" data-cite="dvdWarrior" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>My Money In The Bank predictions:<p> </p><p> Neither CM Punk nor Christian win World Titles. Reason for this is Christian and Punk are two of my favorites, and the Forces Of Fate only let my favorites win if they have ABSOLUTELY no other choice... same reason baseball never books the Cubs to win the World Series.</p><p> </p><p> <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Omg, Cubs fan to, I love your Forces Of Fate theory.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Hey...at least you're not a Browns and Jaguars fan like me...</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Jaguars fan I understand, newer team. But Browns man that sucks.</p>

[JackKnifed72]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Hey...at least you're not a Browns and Jaguars fan like me...</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Wait What?!? The Browns have fans?!?!? <img alt=":eek:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/eek.png.0e09df00fa222c85760b9bc1700b5405.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Sorry Steeler fan here, couldn't resist <img alt=":o" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/redface.png.900245280682ef18c5d82399a93c5827.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[cappyboy]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="JackKnifed72" data-cite="JackKnifed72" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Wait What?!? The Browns have fans?!?!? <img alt=":eek:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/eek.png.0e09df00fa222c85760b9bc1700b5405.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> </p><p> Sorry Steeler fan here, couldn't resist <img alt=":o" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/redface.png.900245280682ef18c5d82399a93c5827.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> All well and good. But I think you have us confused with the Bengals. I can count the number of their fans I've seen in my life on my fingers.</p>

[20LEgend]

I love SD! commentary so funny. Wade was good on commentary too but he does have previous experience IIRC.

[sebsy]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="dvdWarrior" data-cite="dvdWarrior" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>My Money In The Bank predictions:<p> </p><p> Neither CM Punk nor Christian win World Titles. Reason for this is Christian and Punk are two of my favorites, and the Forces Of Fate only let my favorites win if they have ABSOLUTELY no other choice... same reason baseball never books the Cubs to win the World Series.</p><p> </p><p> For some reason I 'speck Cody Rhodes to win the SmackDown! Ladder Match. Dunno why exactly, just seems to make the most sense to me.</p><p> </p><p> I have no idea who'll win the Raw one, but I'm betting it's not Alberto Del Rio. Reason for this is I've seen 9,319 different people around the internet screaming that CM Punk would beat Cena, and then Del Rio would immediately cash in his Money In The Bank of Punk, possibly even at the behest of Mr. McMahon.</p><p> </p><p> Seems to me that 99 times out of 100, when "everyone knows" what WWE is gunna do....</p><p> </p><p> WWE doesn't do it.</p><p> </p><p> Of course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.</p><p> </p><p> <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> I hope Cody doesn't win it <em>because</em> I like him. I want to see him get a proper push towards a world title. He's still got a good bit to do yet to really show he deserves a world title push so hopefully they don't just force one on him. I want to see him win the Intercontinental Title, have a decent feud with Ted DiBiase along with a few other really decent feuds over the Intercontinental belt then progress naturally towards main event status.</p><p> </p><p> Barrett makes more sense to me to get the SD MITB briefcase. Absolutely no chane in hell Sin Cara is getting it, Bryan would get a slightly better 5% chance. Slater or Gabriel aren't getting it either. Kane won't win again so it is one of Barrett, Rhodes or Sheamus unless they go for Bryan. </p><p> </p><p> As for Raw. Bourne won't win, Swagger or Miz won't win again, Kofi hasn't shown anything to suggest he is in a position to main event since his feud with Orton and despite the fact they are clearly pushing Riley it is just far too early for him. Don't want Rey to win it on a purely personal level but don't see that happening anyway. One of Del Rio or Truth for me. Truth could win and fail to cash it in in some screwy manner that furthers the conspiracy thread for him. It probably is Alberto's destiny to win it though.</p>

[Tha Black Phenom]

Winning MITB wouldn't be forcing a World title push at all, it would be just that.. a proper push. People think about it like if the MITB holder has a span of three months or so before he wins the big one, which I don't blame because most holders have used it promptly, but there is still the possibility of building up a character further beyond for months to come with it.