lazorbeak Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="crownsy" data-cite="crownsy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Yea just keep him in his current destroyer role and I don't care what his target is. What I don't want back is simlin, jokin, mark henry. That guy sucks.<p> </p><p> The Mark Henry of about the last 3 years though, has been an absolute delight.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It's a testament to him learning the business and being around the right people for 15 years, because 1998 Mark Henry was so, so awful compared to 2012 Mark Henry. He's really turned into a solid big man worker, and I think he's far better on the mic than Big Show or even Undertaker. Which makes it all the more of a shame that we had to see him tap out to John Cena rather than get a brief run as the top monster.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickymex Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 I was hoping that Mark Henry would pass out rather than tap out. He promos all indicated that he wasn't going to go down easy but he tapped out on the second STF. I really hate that it only takes one move to take down a monster. Big Show, Henry and even Ryback who are or were pushed as monsters are put away with one move. It just seems good storytelling to show that a monster is hard to put down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtplaystew Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 As cool as it would have been to see Henry be champ over Cena, based on the timing of the storyline and all... I'm much happier with DB/Cena at Summerslam than I ever would have been with any version of Cena/Henry again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crownsy Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 As cool as it would have been to see Henry be champ over Cena, based on the timing of the storyline and all... I'm much happier with DB/Cena at Summerslam than I ever would have been with any version of Cena/Henry again. I'm ok with it as long as they don't do a stupid DB loses-shakes cena's hand to show respect storyline. I need more meat on this story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djthefunkchris Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 I don't really get this "all of a sudden" stuff concerning Rhodes Scholars. They have constantly had issue's, every time one of them has lost, the other would throw their hands up in the air as if to say "What the heck man?" It's been coming along for a good while, I would say ever since they had the temporary "split". Everything has never been right in your face, you have to actually watch the show to see what's going on. IF Henry ends up being a face, that's been going on for a good while as well. He's even gave props to people, did it again when he talked about Cena last show. He's been getting closer and closer to the bad ass face ever since he come back. I honestly don't think half of you actually watch the show, the way you talk sometimes. It's like you watched it six months ago, then all the sudden sat in last week and wonder at the difference. My question is how could you NOT see it coming, if you been watching all along? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtplaystew Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 DJ is saying something I wanted to say earlier BTU couldn't find a "nice" way of putting. It's an excellent point. I couldn't say it without sounding argumentative so i chose not to post it, but I dont think Ziggler's face turn is sudden either really. It's been on the tip of everyone's tongue for months now. He's been getting huge pops as a heel. It was inevitable. The Del Rio double turn was a catalyst to take it to the next level, but that's not a brand new thing. We're not cheering him all of a sudden because he got attacked. We're cheering him because he's been awesome. Del Rio's unsportsmanlike showing was all we needed to get fully behind it as a unit (meaning the fans...and I'm speaking with a bit of creative license). That said, you guys are free to interpret the storylines the way you do no matter what. I mean if you don't like it and you think it'd be better with changes that's your opinion. I certainly see where Stennick is coming from it's not like he's being unreasonable. I just don't see it the same way if it makes any sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn michaels Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 DJ is saying something I wanted to say earlier BTU couldn't find a "nice" way of putting. It's an excellent point. I couldn't say it without sounding argumentative so i chose not to post it, but I dont think Ziggler's face turn is sudden either really. It's been on the tip of everyone's tongue for months now. He's been getting huge pops as a heel. It was inevitable. The Del Rio double turn was a catalyst to take it to the next level, but that's not a brand new thing. We're not cheering him all of a sudden because he got attacked. We're cheering him because he's been awesome. Del Rio's unsportsmanlike showing was all we needed to get fully behind it as a unit (meaning the fans...and I'm speaking with a bit of creative license). That said, you guys are free to interpret the storylines the way you do no matter what. I mean if you don't like it and you think it'd be better with changes that's your opinion. I certainly see where Stennick is coming from it's not like he's being unreasonable. I just don't see it the same way if it makes any sense. You didn't wanna sound argumentative so you...decide to say crap? (No offense intended) No one here complained or said that we never saw it coming. We saw it coming. The discussion was we did not like the way some of those turns were booked. To know something is coming doesn't mean you will like it when it comes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn michaels Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Do you have any of this proof to show us? You can't tell a guy he's wrong and to do research without showing some to support your statements. I don't need to present squat when my post is telling him to see for himself. I've heard actors say that as well... but I think SM doesn't understand really what is meant by that. To play "yourself" in a movie about you, or about someone life that you were in, would feel surreal and self interested, uncomfortable, etc. Huge difference vs. doing a wrestling promo, where the whole thing is about entertaining the crowd and trying to create a piece of you the crowd can connect with. I think Foley was more right then wrong when he said Stand up Comedy and Wrestling Promo's go hand in hand, in that your relying on yourself totally, and trying to connect with the crowd (get them into what your doing/or against). Shawn Michaels understands. He understands a lot better than some actual english speaking dudes on these boards. Some of those dudes were on diapers and Shawn Michaels 82 was already speaking english. Just saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 You didn't wanna sound argumentative so you...decide to say crap? (No offense intended) No one here complained or said that we never saw it coming. We saw it coming. The discussion was we did not like the way some of those turns were booked. To know something is coming doesn't mean you will like it when it comes. Clearly someone complained about it coming out of nowhere. . . Yeah, well I'm not buying that turn. It turned out well, but it came from nowhere. Oh well. this is your post, #21633, on page 1443 by the way As far as the stuff with Rhodes and Sandow there were some seed planted with that before MITB ever happened. Sandow looking at Cody in disgust after he was pinned Antonio Cesaro on Raw a few weeks ago is at least one example I noted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickymex Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Shawn Michaels understands. He understands a lot better than some actual english speaking dudes on these boards. Some of those dudes were on diapers and Shawn Michaels 82 was already speaking english. Just saying. I don't believe he's questioning your mastery of the english language. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn michaels Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Clearly someone complained about it coming out of nowhere. . . this is your post, #21633, on page 1443 by the way As far as the stuff with Rhodes and Sandow there were some seed planted with that before MITB ever happened. Sandow looking at Cody in disgust after he was pinned Antonio Cesaro on Raw a few weeks ago is at least one example I noted. When i said "I came out of nowhere" i was actually talking about disliking how it was booked. Obviously everyone saw it coming. My bad if i did not make myself clear, that was what i was saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 When i said "I came out of nowhere" i was actually talking about disliking how it was booked. Obviously everyone saw it coming. My bad if i did not make myself clear, that was what i was saying. No, everyone did not see it coming, I gathered that much by going back and reading the discussion. And quite frankly I don't see how whether somebody seeing it coming or not is good or bad either way. Sometimes I enjoy being surprised sometimes I don't. Ziggler's face turn was a pleasant surprise for me, although I couldn't give a crap less about Del Rio Face, Heel, or otherwise. And I don't necessarily need something to be swerved last minute just because it's predictable either. Sometimes I want to see something happen regardless of whether I know it's gonna happen. That can go the other way as well, just as you said. . And this isn't directed at you at all SM82 or anyone else here, but I do find it funny when wwe tries to be less predictable and tries to do surprising things, but people still find a way to complain about it directly after complaining about things being too predictable. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panix04 Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Shawn Michaels understands. He understands a lot better than some actual english speaking dudes on these boards. Some of those dudes were on diapers and Shawn Michaels 82 was already speaking english. Just saying. Don't want to start a an Anglo-American war - but as a proud Englishman - it's nappies not diapers, that's an American word! (clearly you are tri-lingual!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickymex Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 No, everyone did not see it coming, I gathered that much by going back and reading the discussion. And quite frankly I don't see how whether somebody seeing it coming or not is good or bad either way. Sometimes I enjoy being surprised sometimes I don't. Ziggler's face turn was a pleasant surprise for me, although I couldn't give a crap less about Del Rio Face, Heel, or otherwise. And I don't necessarily need something to be swerved last minute just because it's predictable either. Sometimes I want to see something happen regardless of whether I know it's gonna happen. That can go the other way as well, just as you said. . And this isn't directed at you at all SM82 or anyone else here, but I do find it funny when wwe tries to be less predictable and tries to do surprising things, but people still find a way to complain about it directly after complaining about things being too predictable. . . We are the internet and we must complain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn michaels Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Rickymex" data-cite="Rickymex" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>We are the internet and we must complain.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> Well, i'm gonna speak for myself here: i like WWE's current product. It's a lot better than it was a year ago, so i'm not complaining. With that said, i understand why some people still complain. They have been fed with crap for so long, that when things start to change, they're still suspicious. Which reminds me:</p><p> </p><p> Now that 2 years are gonne i laugh at those who said the summer of punk wouldn't change a thing. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djthefunkchris Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Rickymex" data-cite="Rickymex" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I don't believe he's questioning your mastery of the english language.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> /nod. I know he knows how to read. I was actually kind of sticking up for him, because I have heard the same thing, just was trying to explain what they meant, but... It's not really that important. What was important was I can concur that I've heard that said before.</p><p> </p><p> And I'm glad I'm not the only one that did see the things in advance. With Cody and Sandow, they were kind of the 2nd team we were watching, and they purposely had us looking for a team Hell No split, and possible feud, which really made the Cody/Sandow things look small in comparison, so it didn't stick out. Instead of Hell No feuding, we got the one that looked less likely... but they were both built toward that.</p><p> </p><p> As soon as Ziggler come back, he had been cold toward AJ, and seemed to be different. There is of course the "APP" stuff as well, where they had some problems... but you didn't have to see that stuff (I mean, I didn't til' after it happened) to know it was coming. When I say changed, I mean he wasn't out right cheating, even while losing. Stuff he did as if it was just second hand before, he stopped doing. He has changed from snotty slimey brat heel into a loose cannon face. It wasn't a slow change, but it wasn't as fast as people making it sound. YES, he hung with the same crew, but the actual change started a little while right before he won the title. "I've been too damn good for too damn long!" It's been coming for a while. I didn't bring him up because there really hasn't been but maybe two people (maybe just one) that actually had a problem with that turn at all. </p><p> </p><p> It's much easier to get a heel over then a face over, although popular belief is it's much harder to be a heel. Personally, I've been waiting for a face Ziggler ever since I watched some of his youtube shows. I want to see that charisma live on Raw, and it's the only way it has a chance to, if he can pull it off. IF he doesn't, I predict he won't be staying a face for very long.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn michaels Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>/nod. I know he knows how to read. I was actually kind of sticking up for him, because I have heard the same thing, just was trying to explain what they meant, but... It's not really that important. What was important was I can concur that I've heard that said before.<p> </p><p> And I'm glad I'm not the only one that did see the things in advance. With Cody and Sandow, they were kind of the 2nd team we were watching, and they purposely had us looking for a team Hell No split, and possible feud, which really made the Cody/Sandow things look small in comparison, so it didn't stick out. Instead of Hell No feuding, we got the one that looked less likely... but they were both built toward that.</p><p> </p><p> As soon as Ziggler come back, he had been cold toward AJ, and seemed to be different. There is of course the "APP" stuff as well, where they had some problems... but you didn't have to see that stuff (I mean, I didn't til' after it happened) to know it was coming. When I say changed, I mean he wasn't out right cheating, even while losing. Stuff he did as if it was just second hand before, he stopped doing. He has changed from snotty slimey brat heel into a loose cannon face. It wasn't a slow change, but it wasn't as fast as people making it sound. YES, he hung with the same crew, but the actual change started a little while right before he won the title. "I've been too damn good for too damn long!" It's been coming for a while. I didn't bring him up because there really hasn't been but maybe two people (maybe just one) that actually had a problem with that turn at all. </p><p> </p><p> It's much easier to get a heel over then a face over, although popular belief is it's much harder to be a heel. Personally, I've been waiting for a face Ziggler ever since I watched some of his youtube shows. I want to see that charisma live on Raw, and it's the only way it has a chance to, if he can pull it off. IF he doesn't, I predict he won't be staying a face for very long.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Oh, don't worry chris, i wasn't attacking you or anything like that. I just took advantage of that sentence to make a point.</p><p> </p><p> Edit: watched smackdown. Still don't see Sandow as the bad guy here. Not that it's a bad feud, i just won't agree with everything WWE does.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djthefunkchris Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="shawn michaels 82" data-cite="shawn michaels 82" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Oh, don't worry chris, i wasn't attacking you or anything like that. I just took advantage of that sentence to make a point.<p> </p><p> Edit: watched smackdown. Still don't see Sandow as the bad guy here. Not that it's a bad feud, i just won't agree with everything WWE does.</p></div></blockquote><p> I know you wasn't, but thanks for confirming it:).</p><p> </p><p> Sandow: Hey Cody, Since I'm such a "better" man, I forgive you. I'll allow you to be the protector of my Money In The Bank briefcase. </p><p> </p><p> What did he expect after basically stealing it from Cody?</p><p> </p><p> Cody: Wow!!! Really! Ah man, Thanks BFF!!</p><p> </p><p> Reality: <em>smack to the head with briefcase, special delivery from Cody to Sandow</em></p><p> </p><p> Cody was hot during the MITB match, had the crowd behind him, took out the Shield and others, and then..... His BFF who was hiding for most of the match, takes advantage of Cody and basically steals it from him after doing nothing relevant beforehand.</p><p> </p><p> Sandow has always used his "Higher Intellect and Morale" and the old "Holier then thou" theme, as his heel basis. I love it. But it's being a heel. He will always act as if he's the good guy, because that is the way his gimmick is played. "I am your intellectual savior, for only I have the true wisdom to lead you ignoramuses as to what good entertainment really is!"</p><p> </p><p> With him and Cody it's been sort of... subtle, I guess for lack of a better word. In my eyes it was easy for me to follow, and has been something I been expecting for a while. I seen people post how it was all of a sudden, when Cody has definitely been getting more and more face as time has gone on... with the only real reason to boo him being his involvement with Sandow (and his mustache). He's even been nice to some extent to people backstage, that normally wouldn't go with being "heel". Kind of like Carlito before his face turn (that Carlito absolutely HATED).</p><p> </p><p> Anyways, look for a semi-decent push for Cody in the future, while Sandow gets involved with higher level activities. I really don't think they expected Cody to get as much pop as he's been getting over this.. In fact, I didn't expect it either to be honest. I can see this feud getting pretty interesting as time goes on.</p><p> </p><p> I quoted you only because I see your taking the JBL viewpoint again. JBL is obviously there for the heels, although he does put over everyone that gets in that ring.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn michaels Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I know you wasn't, but thanks for confirming it:).<p> </p><p> Sandow: Hey Cody, Since I'm such a "better" man, I forgive you. I'll allow you to be the protector of my Money In The Bank briefcase. </p><p> </p><p> What did he expect after basically stealing it from Cody?</p><p> </p><p> Cody: Wow!!! Really! Ah man, Thanks BFF!!</p><p> </p><p> Reality: <em>smack to the head with briefcase, special delivery from Cody to Sandow</em></p><p> </p><p> Cody was hot during the MITB match, had the crowd behind him, took out the Shield and others, and then..... His BFF who was hiding for most of the match, takes advantage of Cody and basically steals it from him after doing nothing relevant beforehand.</p><p> </p><p> Sandow has always used his "Higher Intellect and Morale" and the old "Holier then thou" theme, as his heel basis. I love it. But it's being a heel. He will always act as if he's the gooerd guy, because that is the way his gimmick is played. "I am your intellectual savior, for only I have the true wisdom to lead you ignoramuses as to what good entertainment really is!"</p><p> </p><p> With him and Cody it's been sort of... subtle, I guess for lack of a better word. In my eyes it was easy for me to follow, and has been something I been expecting for a while. I seen people post how it was all of a sudden, when Cody has definitely been getting more and more face as time has gone on... with the only real reason to boo him being his involvement with Sandow (and his mustache). He's even been nice to some extent to people backstage, that normally wouldn't go with being "heel". Kind of like Carlito before his face turn (that Carlito absolutely HATED).</p><p> </p><p> Anyways, look for a semi-decent push for Cody in the future, while Sandow gets involved with higher level activities. I really don't think they expected Cody to get as much pop as he's been getting over this.. In fact, I didn't expect it either to be honest. I can see this feud getting pretty interesting as time goes on.</p><p> </p><p> I quoted you only because I see your taking the JBL viewpoint again. JBL is obviously there for the heels, although he does put over everyone that gets in that ring.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> JBL has nothing to do with me defending this opinion, but yeah i agree with some of his points. Just to clarify: I'm not saying it's a bad feud, im enjoying it, im not saying its poorly executed, or nothing like that. I understand why rhodes is the face and sandow the heel, im just not the type of viewer that has that unilateral stance of cheering who they "tell me to." I like both guys, but, being a writer, and loving complex characters, i can only find myself supporting both guys, cause i see none of them as a heel here. This is actually the type of situation that would put 2 best friends against each other in real life. And there's nothing better than liking and rooting for both workers on a feud to me. It adds to the drama of it all.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtplaystew Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 Well SM82 you may not be buying it but so far I'd say it's a successful turn. Cody's now getting a massive reaction, and in very short period as found himself as one of the rosters hottest babyfaces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn michaels Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="bigtplaystew" data-cite="bigtplaystew" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Well SM82 you may not be buying it but so far I'd say it's a successful turn. Cody's now getting a massive reaction, and in very short period as found himself as one of the rosters hottest babyfaces.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It's not that i'm not buying, It's more complex than that, as I said, but I am enjoying.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh_Showtime Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="shawn michaels 82" data-cite="shawn michaels 82" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I understand why rhodes is the face and sandow the heel, im just not the type of viewer that has that unilateral stance of cheering who they "tell me to." I like both guys, but, being a writer, and loving complex characters, i can only find myself supporting both guys, cause i see none of them as a heel here. This is actually the type of situation that would put 2 best friends against each other in real life. And there's nothing better than liking and rooting for both workers on a feud to me. It adds to the drama of it all.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You don't think its reason enough to dislike Sandow for basically picking the bones for a major win after his "Best Friend" did all of the work? Not only did he win on the back of Cody's work, he also destroyed him to do it. It puts great sympathy on Cody and enhances Sandow as a thinking or intellectual style wrestler.</p><p> </p><p> Its a simple betrayal storyline. Sure what he did was in the confines of the rules, but to a lot of people friendship is beyond winning and losing.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakerNGN74 Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 <p>Since people are talking about Sandow stealing the MITB breifcase away from Cody Rhodes in the WHC MITB Ladder Match I feel I should mention this.</p><p> </p><p> Not sure if you have read any dirt sheets as of late but a few of them that I go to that are ususally reliable sources have said that even though Sandow won the Smackdown Money In The Bank Ladder Match he <strong>WON"T</strong> be the one to cash the breifcase in when it is time. Cody and Damien are likely to feud over the breifcase at some point and their plan (again this is just rumored and what I have heard but it sounds like it could be true) is to have Cody Rhodes defeat Damien Sandow for the breifcase and at that point they could do a full face turn with Cody because that would be perfect timing to do it IMHO.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rone Rivendale Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="TakerNGN74" data-cite="TakerNGN74" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Since people are talking about Sandow stealing the MITB breifcase away from Cody Rhodes in the WHC MITB Ladder Match I feel I should mention this.<p> </p><p> Not sure if you have read any dirt sheets as of late but a few of them that I go to that are ususally reliable sources have said that even though Sandow won the Smackdown Money In The Bank Ladder Match he <strong>WON"T</strong> be the one to cash the breifcase in when it is time. Cody and Damien are likely to feud over the breifcase at some point and their plan (again this is just rumored and what I have heard but it sounds like it could be true) is to have Cody Rhodes defeat Damien Sandow for the breifcase and at that point they could do a full face turn with Cody because that would be perfect timing to do it IMHO.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I would like to see that. Would have been better without knowing ahead of time though lol. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakerNGN74 Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Rone Rivendale" data-cite="Rone Rivendale" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I would like to see that. Would have been better without knowing ahead of time though lol. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Sorry maybe I should have posted it in white.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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