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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="dvdWarrior" data-cite="dvdWarrior" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Seems I'm gonna be just a tad slow on the whole getting WWE NEtwork thing... unavoidable circumstances, don't ya know. <p> </p><p> Can anyone tell me, do they have have any of the TV shows available on there? Like Nitros, Thunders, SmackDowns!, and (very hopefully) Clashes of Champions and Saturday Nighs' Main Events?</p><p> </p><p> I figure they might, but I can't help but wonder.</p><p> </p><p> <img alt=":o" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/redface.png.900245280682ef18c5d82399a93c5827.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> The only thing that you listed that they do have is Smackdown but I would imagine that Nitro Thunder and Clash Of The Champions etc will all be added in gradually.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="dvdWarrior" data-cite="dvdWarrior" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Seems I'm gonna be just a tad slow on the whole getting WWE NEtwork thing... unavoidable circumstances, don't ya know. <p> </p><p> Can anyone tell me, do they have have any of the TV shows available on there? Like Nitros, Thunders, SmackDowns!, and (very hopefully) Clashes of Champions and Saturday Nighs' Main Events?</p><p> </p><p> I figure they might, but I can't help but wonder.</p><p> </p><p> <img alt=":o" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/redface.png.900245280682ef18c5d82399a93c5827.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> They have a few RAWs from the first season 93', a couple from the attitude era, and 4-5 from December 2013 until Jan 14.</p><p> </p><p> I didnt see any SMEs. They have most of the PPVs in the history of WWE, WCW, and ECW.</p><p> </p><p> They will start adding Nitro's very soon Id imagine. On the VOD they had with cable companies they always had numerous Raws/Nitros available to watch from the Attitude Era at any given time.</p><p> </p><p> My speculation is they want to show content on the live stream channel before adding it to the vault so they have fresh stuff for people to watch. I think the vault will be much more impressive in 3-4 months.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="delv213" data-cite="delv213" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> however it's nearly impossible to over look the fact he was very over before <strong>his nonsensical loses on PPV's happened</strong>.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> But you tried to say that it was because Big Show kicked out of his finish that killed him when in reality THAT is why it happened. </p><p> </p><p> Ryback gets tons of heat on plenty of things. Everyone says that guy is crazy so him saying he's number two in merchandise could be akin to the WWE saying 60 million people watched their programming world wide. In other words maybe he was number two for the week, or for the month, or in a certain category but again with so many other merch movers in the company there is no way this guy was at any time number two. </p><p> </p><p> Your video also points out that Ryback was over thats not in dispute but its not like Cena was all like "hey cheer me over him" and the kids threw down their Cena shirts to chant Feed Me More. Ryback was over he was over with kids, but again comparing anyone in any category to Cena is just hyperbole. The guy is at the top of the mountain in virtually every meaningful category. </p><p> </p><p> In other news I'm not really happy with the network. I got it on day one to get access to the VOD and thats just not possible. Two days in its crazy to think they are still having problems. When HBO Go launched it had over 20 million subscribers and it went off without a hitch on day one. Mania is of zero interest to me so I might cancel and check back in six months to see what its like.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Stennick" data-cite="Stennick" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> In other news I'm not really happy with the network. I got it on day one to get access to the VOD and thats just not possible. Two days in its crazy to think they are still having problems. When HBO Go launched it had over 20 million subscribers and it went off without a hitch on day one. Mania is of zero interest to me so I might cancel and check back in six months to see what its like.</p></div></blockquote><p> I hear you; the VOD is the only thing that might convince me to keep the network once my free trial ends, and it's too inconsistent for me to justify a $60 commitment right now. It's weird, though. I watched all of Survivor Series '98 and DB vs. Cena from last year's SummerSlam yesterday afternoon and evening, and they ran perfectly. Since then, though, anything I've tried to watch on VOD has been crap.</p>
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<p>It's annoying me a little bit that the WWE said "every WWE, WCW, and ECW PPV EVER AT LAUNCH" They were specific words. They also said every episode of ECW tv AT LAUNCH, which obviously isn't the case.</p><p> </p><p>

Is it a big deal? Probably not there is more than enough to watch right now. But it bugs me. Neither of the 2014 PPVs are up. Which, hey, maybe they can't and i'm sure there are reasonable explanations for why they can't. Maybe it's as simple as some kind of distribution rights in place with a cable company or two? Maybe it's as devious as they want to wait for DVDs to come out. I'm fine with it either way, but then don't say EVERY PPV EVER! And there's a few missing here and there. </p><p> </p><p>

I can forgive the server problems. I can understand the streaming issues and not every app will work right with SO many different devices available at launch. But don't advertise crap as being available AT LAUNCH that isn't available.</p>

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The only PPV's I've seen anyone mention that were missing were the overseas WCW ones (the NJPW shows and the German PPV) and the overseas WWE ones (Inserrextion etc). I'm not sure why these aren't on there but it's possible that at least with the NJPW shows that WWE don't own the full rights to the shows. If they were co-produced then it might be joint rights most likely meaning that NJPW would be due a cut. If that is indeed the case then it makes sense from a business standpoint to leave them out.
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="bigtplaystew" data-cite="bigtplaystew" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> Neither of the 2014 PPVs are up. </div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I thought someone had said RR 2014 was up? Maybe I was mistaken.</p><p> </p><p> As for Elimination Chamber I am sure they have deals with the PPV providers that they cant show that until they arent showing it on PPV anymore. Dont the PPV providers usually offer them up for purchase for a week?</p>
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They said Elimination Chamber wasn't going to be on the Network until 30 days later because the Network was launching the next day. In theory, people wouldn't want to pay $50 to see Elimination Chamber live if they could watch it on the Network the next day.

 


Anyway, catching up on NXT and Tensai could actually turn into a real solid color guy. I'm enjoying him greatly. Rusev's manager Lana is really coming into her own on the mic as her confidence grows.

 


Tensai doing the Emma dance is fantastic.

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Sin Cara & Los Matadores vs. The Shield on Main Event here on the Network has been one heck of a match. If Los Matadores could stop being a huge comedy act they could do something good on the division.

 


And El Torito wrestles better than many other wrestlers in the WWE, the problem is...dat gimmick. But well...other wrestlers of this size have been used as comedy on the WWE so...

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="jbergey_2005" data-cite="jbergey_2005" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I thought someone had said RR 2014 was up? Maybe I was mistaken.<p> </p><p> As for Elimination Chamber I am sure they have deals with the PPV providers that they cant show that until they arent showing it on PPV anymore. Dont the PPV providers usually offer them up for purchase for a week?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I read that chamber wont be up for 30 days. I assume same for RR which its due soon</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Smasher1311" data-cite="Smasher1311" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Sin Cara & Los Matadores vs. The Shield on Main Event here on the Network has been one heck of a match. If Los Matadores could stop being a huge comedy act they could <strong>do something good on the division. </strong><p> </p><p> And El Torito wrestles better than many other wrestlers in the WWE, the problem is...dat gimmick. But well...other wrestlers of this size have been used as comedy on the WWE so...</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> They were great when they were still the Colons, just sayin <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"></p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>They were great when they were still the Colons, just sayin <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yeah, they did, but as Los Matadores they are just a comedy act <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"></p><p> </p><p> But a good, if not great comedy act in-ring, IMO.</p>
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<p>Maybe someone can help me here...I am unable to watch ANY content on my tablet (from the WWE Network) - GPS/WiFi location turned on. I keep getting "Can't play this video" as the error message.</p><p> </p><p>

EDIT: Other content from the WWE app works fine, as does Netflix, YouTube and other streaming services.</p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="CQI13" data-cite="CQI13" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Maybe someone can help me here...I am unable to watch ANY content on my tablet (from the WWE Network) - GPS/WiFi location turned on. I keep getting "Can't play this video" as the error message.<p> </p><p> EDIT: Other content from the WWE app works fine, as does Netflix, YouTube and other streaming services.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> From what I have read here and around the web, is that eventually it seems most people get it to work with whatever they are trying to get it to work with.</p><p> </p><p> Make sure you are logged in (I don't think you can see the content without being logged in, but just in case I wanted to mention the obvious), and just keep trying/refreshing. </p><p> </p><p> I had problems trying to get the network period... I eventually just kept refreshing until I got to the page where they ask you how you will pay, then I put in my information, hit enter, and got a page message error. I was going to refresh and try again, but instead went to WWE.com and hit WWE network, then the "already a member, click here" button, and it come up with everything.</p><p> </p><p> From what I have read, many people are having trouble getting to see anything, especially the on demand stuff, but seems if you keep refreshing, you will at least get the live stream to work for now.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>While watching Elimination Chamber and Raw I realized who Big E reminds me of, late 80s/early 90s Scott Steiner.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Me too! Now the question is, do you think that's a bad thing? I don't. Although the stammering, intoxicated, genetalactic freak late 90s version of Stiener is my favorite version :-)</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="bigtplaystew" data-cite="bigtplaystew" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Me too! Now the question is, do you think that's a bad thing? I don't. Although the stammering, intoxicated, genetalactic freak late 90s version of Stiener is my favorite version :-)</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Not at all. I'm an unabashed fan of Scotty. I love Big E. I hate his ring name with a passion, but I love him. I did like that they revealed what the E stood for on Raw, even if Cole seemed reluctant to do it. He had two really great matches with Swagger and then with Cesaro. I feel like the future is bright for him.</p><p> </p><p> Also while watching Elimination Chamber I realized I love Swagger. I have hated Swagger pretty much since WWECW and I don't know what made me change my tune, but I've loved watching him work lately.</p>
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<p>Well it's just about official...</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="DIRTSHEET SPOILERZ" data-cite="DIRTSHEET SPOILERZ" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> <span style="color:#C0C0C0;">The following are results from the WWE SmackDown television taping, which took place on Tuesday night in Milwaukee, Wisconsin:</span></p><p><span style="color:#C0C0C0;"> </span></p><p><span style="color:#C0C0C0;"> </span><span style="color:#C0C0C0;"><strong>- "The Animal" Batista opens this week's SmackDown show. He immediately gets boo'd like crazy from the fans in Milwaukee. He talks about how he's going to beat everyone, which leads to Dolph Ziggler coming to the ring. Ziggler ends up challenging Batista. Batista laughs at Ziggler's challenge and accepts. Ziggler dropkicks Batista to end the segment.</strong></span></p><p><span style="color:#C0C0C0;"> </span></p><p><span style="color:#C0C0C0;"> - The Real Americans def. Mark Henry & Big E. The finish saw Cesaro hit Henry with his Neutralizer finisher for the 1-2-3. They teased a lot of tension between Swagger and Cesaro throughout the match.</span></p><p><span style="color:#C0C0C0;"> </span></p><p><span style="color:#C0C0C0;"> - We see Alberto Del Rio talking to Vickie Guerrero backstage. He asks for the night off, but she refuses to give it to him. Sheamus ends up coming in and challenging him to a match.</span></p><p><span style="color:#C0C0C0;"> </span></p><p><span style="color:#C0C0C0;"> - Alexander Rusev and Lana come out to the top of the stage to cut a live promo. They did pretty much the same stuff they've been doing in their pre-taped vignettes that have been airing over the past several weeks.</span></p><p><span style="color:#C0C0C0;"> </span></p><p><span style="color:#C0C0C0;"> - Alberto Del Rio def. Sheamus via Disqualification. The finish saw Christian coming out to attack Sheamus. He hit him with his Killswitch finisher. Del Rio ended up joining in, and he and Christian beat down Sheamus.</span></p><p><span style="color:#C0C0C0;"> </span></p><p><span style="color:#C0C0C0;"> </span><span style="color:#C0C0C0;"><strong>- Batista def. Dolph Ziggler in what amounted to basically a squash match. Batista worked the match as a heel.</strong></span></p><p><span style="color:#C0C0C0;"> </span></p><p><span style="color:#C0C0C0;"> - The Wyatt Family comes out and Bray Wyatt cuts a promo. The Shield ended up interrupting him. Triple H then comes out and announces a rematch of their six-man tag-team match from Elimination Chamber for next Monday's WWE RAW in Chicago, Illinois.</span></p><p><span style="color:#C0C0C0;"> </span></p><p><span style="color:#C0C0C0;"> - AJ Lee def. Cameron in a Divas Championship match. At one point during the match, the referee threw Tamina Snuka out from ringside and sent her to the back. Regardless, AJ managed to pick up the victory and retain her title.</span></p><p><span style="color:#C0C0C0;"> </span></p><p><span style="color:#C0C0C0;"> - Brock Lesnar will apparently be confronting The Undertaker on next Monday's WWE RAW show in Chicago.</span></p><p><span style="color:#C0C0C0;"> </span></p><p><span style="color:#C0C0C0;"> - Daniel Bryan & The Usos def. Kane & The New Age Outlaws in a six-man tag-team match. The finish saw Bryan hit Kane with his Running Knee finisher, giving his team the victory.</span>[/Quote]</p><p> </p><p> At least he might start cutting some scathing promos on the fans again like he did during his 2010 run. Does anyone else see Orton working as a babyface at Wrestlemania? This is might be leading towards a possible double turn where the Authority turns on Orton leading to a Bryan versus Batista feud going into the next few months. Which should be big bucks.</p><p> </p><p> Also, I'm disappointing that the Real Americans are going to be feuding soon. Cesaro is obviously way too good for Swagger, but where does that leave Dutch in all this? Is Dutch turning babyface lol?</p></div></blockquote>
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<p><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Raw Review:</span></strong></p><p> </p><p>

<strong>Del Rio vs Batista</strong> - Slow-paced and not much better than a divas match. At least they finally addressed the fans' reaction to Bootista.</p><p>

<strong>Big E vs Cesaro</strong> - Good match with an interesting finish. Big E is proving he can wrestle well in longer matches. Cesaro should be the next IC champ.</p><p>

<strong>Cena & The Wyatt Family</strong> - Strong segment to kick this feud into gear.</p><p>

<strong>Christian vs Sheamus</strong> - Good physical match. I've enjoyed watching Sheamus since his return. Christian is more interesting as a heel.</p><p>

<strong>Bryan vs Kane</strong> - Bryan is one of the few guys who can get a good match out of Kane. Both the pre-match and post-match promos were solid. Fantasy booking: Bryan pulls double duty at Mania, beating HHH in the opening match to earn a spot in the WWE Title Match.</p><p>

<strong>Summer vs Emma</strong> - Finally got the full dorky entrance with bubbles! The match was OK. Summer looked good. The Emma Lock is badass.</p><p>

<strong>NAO vs Usos</strong> - More effective than a full rematch. Still don't know why the Usos didn't win at EC but whatever.</p><p>

<strong>Reigns vs Bray</strong> - A bit disappointing. The pace was too slow and they both need better opponents to carry them. Not keen on the DQ finish since they already did it earlier in the show. The crowd sucked ass for most of this match.</p><p>

<strong>Lesnar, Heyman & Undertaker</strong> - This awesome segment got me pumped up but I'm still unsure about this match. I fear Lesnar will have to hold back so he doesn't injure Taker. And as badass as Lesnar is, his part-time status means that unless you're a total mark it's obvious Lesnar has 0% chance of winning. Also, Taker should be putting over younger guys before he retires.</p><p> </p><p>

<strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Verdict:</span></strong> Good show but not as good as I was expecting.</p><p> </p><p>

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Some on demand content has become a bit better here. Not that much, but it has been more watchable than yesterday. I was able to watch some 20 minutes of Royal Rumble 2010 with no buffering, but well...after Christian vs. Ezekiel Jackson ended it became a completely different story.

 


And that's some content. Money in the Bank 2010 has been unwatchable and i'm excited to be able to watch it as it is my favorite PPV of 2010.

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Smasher1311" data-cite="Smasher1311" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Now i thought this...<p> </p><p> How about a WWE Network thread?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Would probably be seen as redundant and get closed. That being said I would like it. That way we can ask about recommendations and have a place to talk about issue with the service without cluttering this thread. I have always thought this thread works best as a place for reactions/discussions on the current product.</p>
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